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M I N U T E S
PLANNING COMMISSION
February 10, 1987
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 PM by Chair Ortolano
at 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: CONNOLLY, MC NULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Associate Planner Greg Fuz, Associate Planner Steve
Rubin, Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham, and Assistant Planner
Carolynn Wilker-Roesch.
COMMUNICATIONS
Chair Ortolano related the following communications concerning
convenience stores: (1) a letter from Ms. Robin Lindsay dated
February 3, 1987; (2) a letter from Mr. & Mrs. R. Downing dated
February 4, 1987; and (3) a letter from Mr. & Mrs. Brad Tepee
dated February 3, 1987. Chair Ortolano noted the following
communications regarding Height Variation No. 470: (1) a letter
from Ms. Betty Schiff; (2) a letter from Mr. & Mrs. Van Barberi;
and (3) a letter from the Seaview Residents' Association. Chair
Ortolano discussed a communication from the Church of Jesus
Christ of the Latter Day Saints dated February 6, 1987 relating
to the proposed equestrian trail in the Wallace Ranch.
Commissioner Von Hagen discussed that the Church's letter expressed
displeasure with the idea that an equestrian trail may be planned
in the area between Highridqe and Crenshaw. He stressed there
is no such equestrian trail planned.
Mr. Benard stated that the Commission will receive copies of
Mayor Hughes' planned correspondence addressing the Church's
concerns.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of Chair Ortolano modified the minutes
January 13, 1987 as follows:
Page 2, Paragraph 9, "Chair Ortolano questioned whether...".
Page 7, Paragraph 13, "...for the building mass which is on
the site."
Page 10, Paragraph 7, "...discussed whether requiring landscaping
by the fence would...".
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February 10, 1987
Page 2
Commissioner Von Hagen modified Page 6, Paragraph 8, to read,
"...should be used to require a business into compliance."
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to approve the January 13, 1987
minutes as amended; seconded by Mr. Connolly and passed unanimously.
Conditional Use Permit Commissioner alike requested clarifi-
No. 76 - Revision "B" cation regarding Lot 17's setback.
Tract No. 37060
—Staff said 4qt-- 17's footprint
was revised to a 20 toot setback so there will be no entryway
encroachment problem.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to adopt staff's recommendation
including the Conditions of Approval in Exhibit "A"; seconded
by Commissioner McNulty and passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Conditional Use Permit Associate Planner Steve Rubin
No. 115, Negative presented the staff report.
Declaration for EA No. 505
31200 PV Drive West Commissioner Von Hagen questioned
whether the site can accommodate
recreational vehicles which are approximately 32 feet in length.
Staff discussed that the recommended tank relocation area could
accommodate recreational vehicles better than the applicant's
proposed location but the Fire Department indicated the law
would require that the bottles be removed from a vehicle when
refilling. Staff said the approval could be conditioned to
include that vehicles cannot park on the site for refilling
purposes.
Commissioner Connolly voiced concern over a possible catastrophe
resulting from the malfunctioning of a truck's brakes while
traveling up and down the steep hills on the peninsula. He
questioned the route the refill trucks would take.
Staff voiced uncertainty as to the exact route the refill trucks
would take but noted gasoline refill trucks constantly travel
up and down the peninsula without any problems.
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February 10, 1987
Page 3
Commissioner Connolly requested clarification regarding the
proposed crash posts.
Staff noted that the proposed crash posts must meet the Fire
Department requirements.
Commissioner Wike questioned whether there are any faults running
by or near the property.
Staff responded that there are no identified faults in the vicinity
of the subject site.
Chair Ortolano voiced concern over vandalism. She questioned
whether there are any safety measures built into the tank design
that would prevent or discourage vandalism.
Staff discussed that a key would be required to turn the pumps
on. Staff related that a fence to enclose the pumps is not
proposed but could be required as a condition of approval.
Commissioner Von Haqen questioned if the proposed LPG tanks
would pose- any more of a vadalism problem than gasoline tanks.
Chair Ortolano discussed that, due to the nature of LPG, State
law requires the tanks be placed above ground. She noted that
the area surrounding the station is very dark and it would
be appropriate to condition the approval with a fence requirement.
Mr. Benard noted that the applicant might relate experiences
in securing the tanks.
Chair Ortolano opened the public hearing.
Mr. Robert Schneider, 2940 California Avenue, Long Beach, of
Petrolan-e., addressed the -safety of leaving the tanks unattended
at night and that the pump is enclosed in a cage -like box.
He said it is his experience that the tanks are not sub3ect
to vandalism which would be harmful to the communsty.
Chair Ortolano voiced concern over the volatile nature of LPG.
Mr. Schneider said that propane is less volatile than gasoline
and he has never seen a propane tank explode.
Commissioner McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded
by Mr. Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
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February 10, 1987
Page 4
Commissioner McNulty moved approval of staff's recommendation;
seconded by Commissioner Wi-ke.
Staff suggested the motion be amended to include a condition
of approval requiring that all delivery vehicles to the sub3ect
property shall follow the City's designated and appropriate
truck routes.
Mr. Benard discussed that the truck routes are designated by
the California Highway Patrol. He noted there has been some
problem with trucks not following the designated routes and
said such a condition would assist in assuring that trucks making
deliveries to the site utilize the proper routes.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether the station's owner is aware
of staff's recommended tank relocation.
Staff said the applicant would prefer that the tank be placed
near Hawthorne for visibility purposes but does understand that
it must be relocated due to zoning requirements.
The amendment was accepted by the maker of the motion.
Commissioner Von Hagen said the approval could be conditioned
to include that parking of vehicles within a certain distance
of the LPG tank is prohibited. However, he noted that such
a condition might not be appropriate because vehicles cannot
be required to park on property used for another business.
Commissioner Wike related that the approval could include a
requirement that the propane bottles must be removed from the
vehicles.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether LPG is a self-service item.
Staff said LPG is not a self-service item since the Fire Department
requires that the dispensing of the gas shall be approved in
an outside area and performed by a qualified attendant.
Mr. Benard discussed that the requirement to fill the bottles
separate from the vehicles would be in the Fire Department's
Durisdiction.
The motion was passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
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February 10, 1987
Page 5
NEW BUSINESS
CUP No. 23 - Revision "K"
2912 Vista Del Mar
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By consensus the reading of the
staff report was waived.
Mr. Lamar Robinson, Robinson North Architects, 1455 Crenshaw,
Suite 260A, Torrance, discussed that the original application
adhered to the Code's open space requirements and the Seacliff
Hills Guidelines were adopted while the geology of the site
was being evaluated. He noted the proposed driveway location
is the same as the original footprint and stated the Code does
not include the driveway as part of lot coverage. He requested
the project be approved as submitted and emphasized the steepness
of the lot makes it difficult to obtain open space without terracing.
He said the proposed residence would be placed low on the lot
to achieve visual relief to the highly visible Seacliff Hills
area.
Staff noted that the building footprint, the driveway, and the
parking area are all considered lot coverage according to the
Code.
Chair Ortolano voiced that the item should be continued in order
for the applicant to work with staff to redesign with 70%
open space as per the Seacliff Guidelines.
Mr. Steve Dubow, 6364 Chartres Drive, landowner, said the amount
of retaining walls was reduced per staff's request and stated
he was under the impression that all staff's recommendations
had been met and was surprised at the recommendation that the
rear terracing be removed.
Staff said Mr. Robinson was notified of the open space problem
when the staff report was prepared.
Commissioner McNulty questioned whether the applicant's original
plan (excluding the geology) met all City requirements before
the adoption of the Seacliff Guidelines.
Staff .related that the applicant's original plan was designed
to meet Code and, while the qeology was being evaluated, the
Commission adopted the Seacliff Guidelines.
Mr. Benard noted the City Attorney's advice to cease any reviews
and approvals in the area until the geology is resolved.
Staff requested Commission clarification regarding whether landscaping
of altered terrain should be included as lot coverage or open
space.
Chair Ortolano said the Jung project included such landscaping
as open space.
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February 10, 1987
Page 6
Commissioner McNulty voiced his opinion that the Jung landscaping
was designed as a parklike setting and, therefore, was included
as open space.
Staff discussed that the Seacliff Guidelines include as lot
coverage areas which have been disturbed (such as graded, terraced,
etc.).
Commissioner McNulty questioned what the applicant's lot coverage
would be if the landscaping was not included as lot coverage.
Staff said the lot coverage would be 65% if the landscaping
was not .included as lot coverage.
Commissioner Von Hagen voiced his opinion that it was not generally
the Commission's intent to include landscaping as part of the
open space.
Chair Ortolano stated her impression that grass and trees would
be included as open space and an applicant would not be penalized
if the proposed grading is minimal.
Mr. Benard stated that the proposed terrracing and retaining
walls would radically alter the natural terrain.
Chair Ortolano said that the determination of the extent of
the alteration to the natural terrain should be made at an admini-
strative level.
Staff noted that the portion of the Seacliff Guidelines dealing
with open space is being resolved and refined.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether Commissioner Connolly would
have any problem with considering landscaping as part of the
open space.
Commissioner Connolly voiced his opinion that landscaping should
be considered as part of the open space unless the land has
been radically altered with terracing, retaining walls, etc.
Chair Ortolano stressed that the Commission should have more
project information before making a determination and suggested
the item be continued.
Commissioner McNulty moved to continue the item; seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
Chair Ortolano encouraged the applicant to work with staff to
present a plan that tends to build more open space into the
pro3ect. She stated that landscaping should be included as
open space unless the open space is radically altered with terracing,
retaining walls, etc.
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February 10, 1987
Page 7
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Height Variation No. 465 Assistant Planner Laurie Brigham
Appeal - 2131 Summerland presented the staff report.
Chair Ortolano noted that the view from the main living area
and not from the front door is usually considered in a view
analysis. She said staff's interpretation of the Code appears
different from the previous Director of Environmental Service's
interpretation.
Staff discussed that the view from the front door at 2165 General
is the only viewing area on the entire property and the rear
of the lot is covered by large shrubs and trees which block
any potential view. Staff related that, according to the Code,
the principal and identifiable view and viewing area shall be
determined by the Director of Environmental Services.
Mr. Benard discussed that the view from the front door at 2165
General is behind the street side setback and is in a portion
of the yard which is a buildable area. He noted the view analysis
considered the primary viewing area to be outside the front
door rather than from the rear yard because there is no view
from the rear and the area in the front is buildable.
Mr. Anthony Pescetti, 29119 Highmore, Rancho Palos Verdes, 90732,
representing the appellant, discussed that leaving the height
of the proposed addition at 16 feet and moving it toward the
front of the property would cost approximately $70,000 (an increase
of approximately 50%) which would cause a financial hardship
to the appellant. He said the resident at 2165 General gave
the impression that there would be no objection to the proposed
addition.
Staff said the resident at 2165 General speaks little English
but did voice concern over view blockage resulting from trees
and additions.
Commissioner Wike voiced her impression that the resident at
2165 General is not the property owner.
Staff said that 2165 General appears to be owner occupied.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether the removal of trees from
the property at 2165 General would enhance the view.
Staff said that the trees on the surrounding properties, in
addition to the property owner's trees at 2165 General' would
have to be removed in order to enhance the view.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved approval of the appeal; seconded
by Mr. McNulty and passed unanimously.
Appeal rights were noted.
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February 10, 1987
Page 8
Height Variation No. 470
Appeal - 3936 Admirable Dr.
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Assistant Planner Carolynn Wilker-
Roesch presented the staff report.
Commissioner Wike questioned whether staff considered any alternatives
to the applicant's proposed plans.
Staff said the layout of the applicant's house is such that
it would be very difficult to add bedrooms onto the first floor
and meet the required setbacks and Building Code requirements
for light and air.
Commissioner Connolly requested clarification regarding the
applicant's rear slope gradient.
Staff indicated that the applicant's rear slope gradient is
approximately 2:1.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether staff toured any of the homes
which have additions on Exultant Drive.
Staff said homes on Exultant Drive were toured and noted the
applicant wishes to add bedrooms whereas the additions to the
Exultant Drive homes are family rooms.
Ms. Kathryn Bartz, 3936 Admirable Drive, applicant, discussed
her opinion that the only issue should be view obstruction.
She said an attempt was made to minimize view obstruction, at
separate times one contractor and two architects suggested the
proposed plans, and since the City prepared a very careful study
of the project the appeal should be denied and staff's recommendation
to grant the request should be upheld.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether the applicant considered any
alternative designs.
Ms. Bartz discussed that extending the house toward the front
of the property was considered but the contractor indicated.
the addition would be a thoroughfare and said because of Fire
Department regulations a structure which would block existing
windows could not be built.
Those appealing Height Variation No. 470 were as follows:
Mr. George Potter
Mr. Lyle Quatrochi
Mr. Walter Watson
Dr. Anthony George
Mr. Michae-1 Shipman
,Ms-. Gb.- rol Perestam.,
Ms. Dorann Wolf
Ms. Louise Shipman
4014 Exultant
4002 Exultant
3938 Exultant
4104 Exultant
3948 Admirable
4032 Exultant'
4040 Admirable
3948 Admirable
Seaview Residents! Assoc
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February 10, 1987
Page 9
The appellants discussed: concern over coastline view obstruction,
setting precedent, a uniform appearance in the neighborhood,
consideration of alternative designs, reduction of views to
approximately 10% of what they originally were, eroded home
values as the views become increasingly obstructed, the applicant
should abide by the CC&Rs and the City should support the fact
that the CC&Rs were formed with view protection in mind, the
intent of the Seaview home designs is to maximize views and
maintain privacy, and the proposed addition would encourage
adjacent property owners to plant foliage to regain privacy.
Commissioner Von Hagen emphasized that the City is not in a
position to enforce the CC&Rs. He said any attempt to enforce
the CC&Rs should be made via the homeowners' association.
Chair Ortolan6 advijdd Dr. George that discussion of the CC&Rs
is irrelevant and immaterial since those having the power to
enforce the CC&Rs are the members of the Residents' Association.
Dr. George emphatically stated that his Constitutional rights
would be violated if he was forbidden to speak regarding the
CC&Rs.
Chair Ortolano permitted Dr. George two minutes of speaking
time. She indicated that the CC&Rs are beyond the Commission's
scope of jurisdiction.
Commissioner McNulty stressed that the Commission has no power
to enforce the CC&Rs and questioned whether the Residents' Association
plans to pursue the CC&Rs.
Ms. Perestam related that the Association is beginning legal
action to support the appeal.
Commissioner Connolly clarified that the Residents' Association
has been dormant and is currently in the process of reorganizing.
Commissioner Von Hagen clarified that the parkway Pines are
Canary Island Pines.
Commissioner Connolly questioned whether any tree removals are
slated for the area.
Staff related the Public Works communication that 30 Canary
Island Pines on Admirable Drive are slated for removal but the
number will most likely be reduced because of the change in
the Citv's tree removal policy. Staff said the trees to be
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February 10, 1987
Page 10
removed will be marked, the trees will be removed sub3ect to
the approval of the homeowner in front of whose home the trees
lie, and homeowners not wishing a tree to be removed must assume
the liability for any future damage the tree may cause.
Mr. Benard indicated that, though it would be inappropriate
to condition the approval of the application to remove the trees
adjacent to the proposed addition (because they sit in the public
rlcfht- of- way), the Commission Aould request that Public Works
look at the trees as a way to mitigate some of the view obstruction
resulting from the proposed addition.
Chair Ortolano voiced her opinion that it would be within the
Commission's power to require the applicant to remove treesxonwo�
which are higher than the proposed addition (24 feet). She_.(_""�4_
said an approval of the request should include a requirementl
that applicant remove every shrub which is currently imposing,
on neighboring views and a requirement that, in the future,!
the applicant's shrubs can grow no higher than the height of;
the proposed addition. I
Mr. Benard clarified that the applicant's house has a minimum"
setback of 7 feet (2 feet greater than the required 5 foot setback)!
which increases as the house aoes back toward the south. He
related that the applicant's proposed design would have a minimum
of windows to the east and stressed that any future developments
having single-family homes 16 feet in height will eventually
obstruct the views of the bluffs to the south of PV Drive South.
Chair Ortolano agreed that the coastline views will eventually
be impaired by future developments. She noted that the applicant's
proposed addition would be within the City's setback requirements
which are designed to assure privacy.
Commissioner Connolly questioned whether cutting back or removing
the applicant's trees would enhance the views. He stressed
that the remaining view is precious to those having it.
Staff indicated that not only the applicant's trees but numerous
trees in the area must be removed in order to enhance the views.
Commissioner Von Hagen voiced his opinion that the addition
would not significantly impact neighborhing views (especially
those on the street above the applicant's). He said he could
support staff's recommendation to deny the appeal.
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February 10, 1987
Page 11
Commissioner Wike voiced concern over the cumulative impact
resulting from the approval of the request. She said the applicant
should explore alternatives to expand the house out instead
of up.
Chair Ortolano said whether the proposed addition would cause
a significant view impairment is a judgment call. She voiced
her opinion that the application is exactly what the cumulative
impact concept is designed to address and related that once
one person is permitted to construct a second story it would
be very difficult to deny that privilege to adjacent land owners.
She emphasized that the problem should be stopped with the first
application and stated her support of the appeal.
Commissioner McNulty discussed that the growth and proliferation
of the foliage, and not buildings, has reduced the views. He
said most of the view impairment resulting from the proposed
addition would be the shoreline views which will eventually
be obstructed by future developments. He stressed that the
mere fact one family expands their home does not mean every
one will do so. He voiced his support to deny the appeal and
grant the request with a condition that the applicant be required
to remove all shrubs blocking neighboring views.
Commissioner McNulty moved to _-deny the -appealandapprove-the
project; seconded by Commissioner Von Hagen and defeated by
a 2-3 vote with Commissioner Wike, Commissioner Connolly, and
Chair Ortolano dissenting.
Commissioner Wike moved to approve the appeal thereby denying
the request; seconded by Commissioner Connolly and passed by
majority with Commissioner McNulty and Commissioner Von Hagen
dissenting.
Appeal rights were noted.
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February 10, 1987
Page 12
CONTINUED BUSINESS
Code Amendment No. 23
Convenience Stores
- Citywide
Associate Planner Greg Fuz presented
the staff report.
Chat 0 tolano remarked that the
proposed Code Amendment No. 23�fnrFi, not include a distance
requirement between convenience stores and residences since
such a requirement would, in effect, preclude convenience stores
on Western Avenue.
Staff clarified that the distance requirement that had been
proposed would only apply to convenience stores selling alcoholic
beverages.
Chair Ortolano discussed that the proposed Code Amendment No.
23 deals specifically with the issue of convenience stores and
touches on alcoholic beverage sales only in con3unction with
gas sales. She clarified that the convenience store moratorium
expires in mid March.
Staff said an extension to the convenience store moratorium
will be necessary as this Code amendment could not be implemented
before the expiration of the existing moratorium.
Chair Ortoland requested staff discussion related to any renoticing
procedures regarding the Alternatives mentioned in staff's February
10 report.
Staff indicated the first three Alternatives would involve applying
regulations to alcoholic beverage outlets other than convenience
stores and would, therefore, require renoticing.
Chair Ortolano voiced uncertainty as to why renoticing would
be necessary if no changes were made to those outlets currently
selling alcoholic beverages.
Staff related that the expansion of outlets currently selling
alcoholic beverages would probably fall under the new Code and
noted those outlets expanding less than 500 feet would not require
Commission approval.
Mr. Benard reiterated his January 27 statement that substantial
noticing was done beyond obligation; however, he said that the
subject of the notice was only convenience stores, not the regulation
of alcoholic beverage sales in general. He stated that renoticing
would be appropriate whether or not amortization was an issue
and that an informal City management poll of several Council
members indicated that the Commission should look at and address
the entire convenience store issue based on the available information
and public testimony.
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February 10, 1987
Page 13
Commissioner McNulty voiced his support in favor of staff's
Alternative No. 2 with the deletion of the portion pertaining
to a new Code amendment regulating alcoholic beverage sales
city wide. He emphasized that public testimony did not include
concern over the sale of alcoholic beverages city wide.
Chair Ortolano voiced agreement with Commissioner McNulty's
statement that public testimony did not include a concern over
the sale of alcoholic beverages city wide and stated her opinion
that convenience stores should not be permitted to sell alcoholic
beverages. However, she noted such a ruling would result in
the unequal treatment of convenience stores and she reviewed
the City Attorney's opinion that it would be legally defensible
to prohibit alcoholic beverage sales in conjunction with gas
sales.
Commissioner Connolly suggested a distance requirement of 300
feet from residences be included in Section 17.25.030 - Development
Standards.
Chair Ortolano agreed that a distance requirement should be
included in Code Amendment No. 23 and she clarified that such
a requirement would, not require renoticing. She questioned
whether focusing only on convenience stores to the exclusion
of other businesses in the City, such as fast food outlets,
liquor stores, and drug stores, would present legal problems.
Staff said that unique issues and problems related to convenience
stores have been identified that Dustify separate regulation
of convenience store development.
Chair Ortolano discussed that staff's perceptions may not be
accurate and indicated that a distance requirement could present
legal problems unless valid reasons are documented for the separate
treatment of convenience stores.
Commissioner Vn Hagen related that no commercially zoned property
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in the City is, ocated within 300 feet of a residence and discussed
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that a Conditional Use Permit would be easier to condition than
a Variance.
Staff said a Conditional Use Permit would certainly offer more
flexibility than a Variance.
Commissioner Wike said any recommendation to Council should
include a suggestion regarding the initiation of an amendment
to regulate alcoholic beverage sales city wide. She stated
she could support a Commission determination prohibiting convenience
stores, with or without alcoholic beverage sales, where they
are close to residences and voiced concern over future intensifi-
cation of use.
Staff reviewed that any intensification of use would require
Commission review.
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Commissioner McNulty and Commissioner Von Hagen reiterated that
public testimony did not include a concern over the sale of
alcoholic beverages city wide.
Chair Ortolano voiced concern over the possibility that the Commission's intent
to prevent alcoholic beverage sales at a particular location will be interpreted
differently by future Commissioners.
Mr. Benard noted Council's direction for the Commission to deal
with any related problems as they arise.
Commissioner Connlly reemphasized that residents ob]ected to
the idea of convenience stores, with or without alcoholic beverage
sales, and said he could support Code Amendment No. 23 as written
with the insertion of a distance requirement in Section 17.25.030
- Development Standards.
Commissioner Wike agreed that residents ob3ected to the idea
of convenience stores whether or not they sell alcoholic beverages.
Chair Ortolano questioned whether the current Code requirements
include Commission review of liquor stores, markets, drug stores,
etc., wishing to sell alcoholic beverages.
Staff reviewed that the present Code requires a Conditional
Use Permit for each new building over 500 square feet. However,
staff said each existing building would not require Commission
approval and the sale of alcoholic beverages alone does not
require a Conditional Use Permit.
Chair Ortolano voiced concern over the current Code requirements
and stated she could support Alternative No. 2 with the inclusion
of a distance requirement of 100 feet from residences. She
noted that the smaller the distance the more legally defensible
a distance requirement would be and clarified that a convenience
store distance requirement from residences would not trigger
renoticing.
Mr. Benard noted that a distance requirement would be a determination
with which the City Attorney may be uncomfortable.
Commissioner Connolly clarified that two potential convenience
store applications within the City are pending.
commissioner Wike clarified that convenience stores could not
be legally prohibited within the City and agreed that the proposed
Code Amendment No. 23 should include a distance requirement.
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February 10, 1987
Page 15
Commissioner Connolly moved to accept Resolution P.C. No. 87-
9 as written with the stipulation that Section 17.25.030 - Develop-
ment Standards - include a minimum distance requirement of 100
feet between convenience stores and residential buildings; seconded
by Commissioner Wike.
Chair Ortolano requested staff inform Council of the rationale
for the distance requirement and obtain the City Attorney's
opinion regarding the idea.
Staff discussed that Code Amendment No. 23, including the rationale
for a 100 foot distance requirement from residences, will be
presented to Council at which time the City Attorney's opinion
regarding the idea will be obtained.
Chair Ortolano voiced concern over staff possibly placing unequal
weight toward staff's recommendations when presenting items
to Council.
Mr. Benard stated his lack of awareness regarding unequal weight
being placed toward staff's recommendations when presenting
items to Council and reviewed the Commission's recommendation
of Alternative No. 2 with the addition of a 100 foot distance
requirement from residential buildings rather than a residential
zone.
Chair Ortolano stated the distance from structure to structure
should be focused on.
Commissioner Wike said the distance from a residential zone
would be more restrictive.
Staff indicated that the ABC uses building to building measurements.
The motion passed by a majority vote with Commissioner McNulty
and Commissioner Von Hagen dissenting.
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Page 16
REPORTS
Staff Mr. Benard noted the March 2 Specific
Plan IV Workshop Subcommittee
meeting in Eastview.
Commissioner Connolly and Commissioner McNulty expressed interest
in attending the meeting.
Mr. Benard voiced intent to mail the Planning Commissioners'
Institute information to the Commissioners upon his receipt
of the material.
Commission Chair Ortolano discussed oG oGe --;'S,
opinion that the Commission should
take more time when dealing with applications and should not
be pressured into making a decision. She noted -the Wallach Ranch
as an example to which Council referred.
Commissioner Von Hagen discussed that four public hearings on
the Wallace Ranch item were held and mentioned that he never
felt pressured to make a decision.
ADJOURNMENT Upon motion of Commissioner McNulty
and seconded by Mrs. Wike, the
meeting was adjourned at 11:15
PM.