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PC MINS 19861014_I " awetae-d; MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION October 14, 1986 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Von Hagen at 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard. PRESENT: MC NULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE ABSENT: NONE Also present were Director of Environmental Services Robert Benard, Associate Planner Greg Fuz, Associate Planner Steve Rubin, and As- sistant Planner Carolynn Wilker-Roesch. COMMUNICATIONS Chairman Von Hagen related: (1) a letter from Mr. Bill AilAr, Chair- man Rolling Hills Estates Planning Commission, regarding the Four Ci- ties' Luncheon on October 15, 1986; and (2) a memo from City Attorney Steve Dorsey regarding a tie vote. Staff noted a letter from Lanco Engineering, on behalf of La Solana, requesting Lots 15-19 be deleted from the plot plan for CUP No. 76. CONSENT CALENDAR Mrs. Wike requested Consent Calendar Items A, C and D be deleted from the Consent Calendar approval. The Commission approved those items individually. Minutes of September 9, 1986 The September 9, 1986 minutes were amended as follows: Page 1, Paragraph 6, "...and passed by majority with Mr. Von Hagen abstaining (due to absence at the 8/12/86 meeting)." Page 2, Paragraph 4, "...television. The Commission also discussed a 51' front setback in relationship to the house that is more than twice as large as homes built in that area. The average size of _omes is 1,250 square feet whereas applicant is asking to build a home of 2,654 square feet." Page 3, Paragraph 1, "...substandard lot and a Commissioner...". Page 6, Paragraph 9, "...on the street. A Commissioner...". Page 9, Paragraph 4, " ..neighborhood compatibility ordinance. Mr. Von Hagen and Mr. McNulty stated opposition...". 604CP/MIN1.1 j � • Minutes October 14, 1986 Page Two Mr. McNulty moved approval of the September 9, 1986 minutes as amend- ed; seconded by Mrs. Ortolano and passed unanimously. Mr. McNulty moved approval of Consent Calendar Item C; seconded by Mr. Von Hagen and passed by majority with Mrs. Wike dissenting. Mrs. Wike stated she could not, in good conscience, approve Resolution P.C. No. 86-27 granting Variance No. 137 and GR No. 908. She noted recognition of applicant's right to build on his legally created lot but said there is an alternative that would be in keeping with Code and the neighborhood which would be building a house with a smaller footprint and a 10-12' front setback. The Commission discussed whe- ther Commissioner opinions should be individually recognized and included in the minutes. The current format will be continued. CUP No. 76 - Revision La Solana Corp. Tract 37060 from the plot plan and recommended Commission can consider the complete Assistant Planner Carolynn Wil- ker-Roesch presented the staff report, noted applicant's re- quest to exclude Lots 15-19 the item be continued so that the application. Mr. Mike Nichols, Lanco Engineering, 1010 Crenshaw, #200, Torrance, 90501, discussed Lots 15-19 should be excluded from the plot plan because an incorrect floor plan was included, the sideyard retaining walls for Lots 15 and 19 must be eliminated to meet Code, Lots 18 and 19 have been setback further from the street, and continuation of the application would be an economics+ hardship. Mr. Leon Baird, VP La Solana, 2062 Business Center Drive, #260, Ir- vine, 92715, applicant, discussed Lots 15-19 are downhill lots, pre- ference for approval of the remaining nine uphill lots and the foot- prints (not the lot lines) for Lots 15-19 will be adjusted. The Commission discussed its agreement with staff's recommendation to continue the item and said that delaying it until October 28, 1986 should not be an economical burden. Mrs. Ortolano moved to continue the item to October 28, 1986; seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed unanimously. Staff said Exhibit "B" will be revised to include the correct figures for Lot 5 - new setbacks/sides. A Commissioner suggested upon approval of Exhibit "A", applicant be required to sign a statement of awareness that sideyard retaining walls are prohibited. 604CP/MIN1.1-6 Minutes October 14, 1986 Page Three PUBLIC HEARINGS CUP No. 101, GR No. 950, Final Neg. Declaration for EA No. 477 priate, close the public hearing and approving Final Negative Declaration GR No. 950 sub]ect to the conditions E Associate Planner Steve Rubin presented the staff report and recommended the Commission take additional testimony if appro- adopt Resolution P.C. No. 86-28 for EA No. 477, CUP No. 101 and in Exhibit "A". The Commission said Exhibit "A" should include a condition requiring a Conditional Use Permit for liquor sales or minimarkets as a method to alert a neighborhood and to allow for public testimony. Staff discussed that the current moratorium in the area does not apply to the project since it relates to lots of less than 35,000 square feet in size, that uses in the Commercial General zoning would not require a CUP for liquor sales or minimarkets (for on or off premises consumption), and CUP No. 101 could be amended to include that uses such as liquor sales for off-site consumption or minimarkets require a CUP to encourage public awareness. The Commission voiced concern over numerous complaints related to of- fensive restaurant odors and staff noted Exhibit "A", Condition 13, includes that restaurants shall incorporate filtration systems to eli- minate all exhaust odors. Chairman Von Hagen opened the public hearing. Mr. David Roderick, 140 The Village, #203, Redondo Beach, 90277, ap- plicant, discussed a minimarket is not planned at the location but plans do include the possibility of a Bristol Farms type establishment which would probably sell liquor. The Commission stated that the amendment to CUP No. 101 would not be to inhibit reasonable business practices but would be used as a proce- dure for public testimony to determine whether liquor sales would be appropriate. Mr. McNulty moved to close the public hearing; seconded by Mrs. Orto- lano and passed unanimously. Mr. McNulty moved approval uses which sell alcohol for amendment; seconded by Mrs. Appeal rights were noted. 604CP/MIN1.1-6 of staff's recommendation including that off-site consumption shall require a CUP Ortolano and passed unanimously. r • Minutes October 14, 1986 Page Four GR No. 936 - Appeal Simonsen 0 Associate Planner Greg Fuz pre- sented the staff report and recommended the appeal be deni- ed. Mr. Bernard Simonsen, 30731 Via La Cresta, applicant, discussed the proposed grading would allow the back portion of his property to be more horizontally from right tp left sloping away from the house, willingness to landscape the back open space portion of the property or screen the proposed wall, and said that since the intent is to make the area more level, 4' of fill would not be used he entire length of the property line. Staff discussed the 126 cubic yards of fill would be materials from the excavation of the site, the smallest setback from the proposed downslope wall next to the driveway to the left property line is ap- proximately 301 and the house to the right of applicant's has a rear wall which is approximately 301from the property line. The Commission said the Code encourages preservation of the natural topography and the homes surrounding applicant's property do so. Mrs. Wike moved that the Commission approve staff's Alternative No. 1 to deny the appeal as recommended; seconded by Mr. McNulty. The Commission discussed applicant's reasonable expectation to in- crease usage of his yard as opposed to the Code intent and said appli- cant did not demonstrate substantial need for the rear yard terracing. The motion was passed unanimously. Appeal rights were noted. CUP No. 23 Assistant Planner Carolynn Wil - Revision M ker-Roesch presented the staff GR No. 926 report and recommended the Com- mission direct applicant to re- design to address lot coverage, facade setbacks and roofline issues per the adopted CUP No. 23 Development Guidelines. Mr. Gavin Lau, 22330 Hawthorne, #210, Torrance, 90505, applicant, dis- cussed the project was designed to comply with the City's guidelines, the application should not be denied on the basis of style, the major- ity of the lot coverage is taken up by landscaping, the proposed foot- print is the same as the original footprint, and 830 cubic yards of grading would be necessary. 604CP/MIN1.1-6 i, I 1� 0 Minutes October 14, 1986 Page Five • The Commission discussed the application meets the height and setback Code requirements, its role is not one of architectural review, the proposed 55% open space is grossly out of line with the 75% guideline recommendation, 830 cubic yards of cut seems excessive, a new site plan is necessary to show the house was moved toward the rear of the lot and to show the exact location of the pool, the formal oriental garden was included as to coverage, and the application should be con- tinued to the earliest possible date. Staff noted applicant's lot size of 31,000 square feet and said with the elimination of the formal oriental garden as lot coverage, appli- cant would be 3,800 square feet short of meeting 75% open space which could be mitigated with the elimination of the pool and stairs. Mrs. Wike moved to continue the item to the earliest possible date. The Commission noted a consideration will be made to include the for- mal oriental garden as open space. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Ortolano and passed unanimously. The Commission requested applicant provide a 30/40 scale schematic showing the actual placement of the project on the lot and that staff do several calculations of open space on the item. Sign Permit No. 313 Assistant Planner Carolynn Wil - Voris - 29211 Western ker-Roesch presented the staff report and recommended approval of the application with the conditions that the existing pedestrian - oriented signs be removed and the new sign be reduced in size (possi- bly requiring the elimination of some copy) to met Code requirements and be non -illuminated. Staff discussed the sign would be perpendicular to the building face, the application was not submitted as an illuminated sign, the proposed sign size of 61 square feet per side as opposed to Code allowance of 3 square feet per side, it is not necessary to put the building address on a pedestrian -oriented sign, and the two bronze plaques on the building should be removed. The Commission discussed its agreement with staff's recommendation that the new sign must be reduced in size to meet Code requirements and that the two bronze plaques on the building must be removed. Mr. McNulty moved to approve staff's recommendation; seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed unanimously. Appeal rights were noted. 604CP/MIN1.1-6 9 Minutes October 14, 1986 Page Six QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE: None. REPORTS Staff Meeting December 23, 1986 October 28, 1986 - 6:30 P.M. Minimarket Workshop • The Commission agreed that the December 23, 1986 meeting should be cancelled. Reminder. Specific Plan No. IV Staff discussed City Manager McDuffie's request to initiate the Specific Plan No. IV Subcommittee. Mrs. Wike volunteered to serve as the subcommittee delegate with Mr. Von Hagen as alternate. Mr. Mc- Nulty and Mrs. Ortolano agreed be available as additional alternates as their schedules permit. ADJOURNMENT Mr. McNulty moved to adjourn at 9:30 P.M. to the next regularly sched- uled meeting at 6:30 P.M.; seconded by Mrs. Ortolano and passed unani- mously. 604CP/MIN1.1-6