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PLANNING COMMISSION
December 10, 1985
The_ meet ng __0__P___ ___Cjya--j-r-m-a-n--Y5,cNulty
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at Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: MCNULTY, HODGE, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were Director of Environmental Service
Sharon Hightower Associate r Steve Rubin, Associate
Planner Alice Bergqu1`s�C_1Gg_udZ, Assistant Planner Greg Fuz,
and Assistant Planner Jack Roberts.
COMMUNICATIONS In reference to CUP 33 was
a communication from the
�Traffic Committee includi-ncr--
an attachment of a copy of a -appli cant.
Secondly, was a request that
Item IV.0 on the Consent
Calendar, Denial of Grading No. 821,
be withdrawn from the December 10, 1985 agenda.
Thirdly, was a communication
from California Solar Industries
Association requesting informa-
tion. The letter was given to
staff with the recommendation that the response include a request
that the people who deal with solar panels become familiar with
City Codes.
Attorney regarding this item and
receives a copy of his response.
CONSENT CALENDAR
In addition, was a letter from
B. D. Stevens dealing with si- gnage.
Assistant Planner Greg Fuz stated
he is consulting with the City
will see that the Commission
Mr. Von Hagen moved to approve
the minutes of November 12,
November 20 and November 26, 1985,
seconded by Mr. McNulty and
passed unanimously.
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Min}ites
December 10, 1985
Page 2
Denial of Grading No. 821
CONTINUED BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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Eliminated from the agenda in
response to applicant's letter
of December 03, 1985.
Tentative Tract Map 44239 The staff report which was
CUP 100, GR 830 presented by Associate Planner
Steve Rubin recommended'the
public hearing for Tract Map
44239, CUP 100, GR 830 be continued until geological invests--
gation and review is complete. Staff noted a December
11, 1985 meeting with pro3ect geologists as well as City
geologists has been planned with hopes of determining
whether the redesign of the project is necessary and
that applicant may wish to redesign the site plan if
the necessary grading of the site proves too costly.
Staff's intent to notify interested parties of the new
hearing date as well as the fact that there was not sufficient
time to notify interested partiesof-Lt_ s�continuance
recommendation were also mentioned.
Mr. Von Hagen moved the public hearing on Tract Map 44239,
CUP 100, GR 830 be continued until the next available
date, seconded by Mrs. Ortolano and passed unanimously.
Variance 127-Kasuga The staff report which was
29901 Avenida Magnifica presented by Assistant Planner
Greg Fuz on this request to
allow an illegally constructed
ctec �to remai n.,recommended the Commission adopt Resoluti on
P. C. No. 85-34 denying the applicant's request and direct
the applicant to remove the deck wi thi n thirty days.
Staff noted the deck causes the downslope height to exceed the,
allowed thirty feet by eight feet, its maximum height above - 7
grade is fifteen feet and portions of the deck are located on
slopes exceeding 350. Also, the home as originally approved
1_n- ne deck which was
within the thirty foot height limit. Staff mentioned the
house is currently for sale and the violation was discovered by
' the selling realtor.
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December 10, 1985
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Staff -voiced concern over the fact that allowing this variation
from the inherent limits on the type of development allowed
on lots such as applicant's would result in the unequal treat-
ment of similar properties without any reasonable basis.
Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
Mr. Walter Hayashi, 30121 Matisse Drive, speaking on Mr. Kasuga's
behalf, stated Mr. Kasuga purchased the property five years ago
without knowledge of the deck's illegality. Mr. Hayashi stressed
Mr. Kasuga's feelings that the cost of the deck's removal would be
an economic hardship and would lower the selling price of his home.
Chairman McNulty closed the public hearing.
The Commission stated some cities require inspections of properties
upon sale and that the City of Rancho Palos Verdes is considering
establishing an ordinance along those lines. The Commission
discussed applicant detaching the deck from the house to bring it
within three feet of compliance and noted the deck to be an accessory
structure. The Commission also discussed applicant's equity and
voiced concern over applicant purchasing the property without know-
ledge of the problems associated with the deck. The deck's endurance
over the past five years, the cost of the deck's removal and the
resulting devaluation of the home as a result of the deck's removal
were noted.
Mr. McNulty moved to adopt Resolution P. C. No. 85-34 approving
Variance 127, seconded by Mr. Hodge.
Commission discussion continued; voicingL--.C�on.cern-_over -the_ boot le�qqi ng
of decks and the fact that those applying for new decks would not have
thesame equity as Mr. Kasuga.
The motion passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty advised applicant of appeal rights.
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December 10, 1985
Page 4
Variance 111/GR 759 Associate Planner Steve Rubin
Kerwin presented the staff report on
30520 PV Dr. East this request to construct a
single-family residence whose
downslope height would exceed the allowable 301 by 15'-3" and
have a front setback of 15' versus the required 20' on a lot whose
total average slope `exceeds 35$,. Staf.f-r-ecommend.ed,.-the .Commi s,,cci on
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adopt Resolution P. C. No. 86-2 approving Variance No. 111, Grading
Application No. 759 and an Encroachment Permit, subject to
Conditions in staff's Exhibit "A".
Staff noted an October 1985 decision determining the lot's legality.
Staff stated the 151-3" height variance to be a "downward" height
and the 15' front setback variance was stated to be adequate due
to the actual distance to road ,pavement and the fact that the widening
of PV Drive East is unlikely.
The necessity of an Encroachment Permit was discussed by staff to
be a result of a portion of the driveway bridge structure being
within the road easement. Requiring an automatic garage door
opener was discussed and staff recommended that roll -up garage
doors also be required.
Staff addressed written resident concerns of pilings, fill, depth,
drainage, setback and lot legality, stating no pilings will be used,
the proposed house location contains little fill, and the Public
Works Department will require the existing 12" drain to be replaced
with an 18" drain to meet a fifty year storm capacity. Staff also
stated applicant's geologist will provide reports when the plan check
process begins and all of the staff's findings are contingent upon
the fact that the reports state the house can be placed as proposed.
The Commission discussed applicant's building rights and stated
it will make an effort to insure the house is built safely and
in Code conformance. The Commission also discussed the possibility
of building a house without variances.
Commission concerns were noted as drainage and the proposed size
of the house.
Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
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December 10, 1985
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Mr. Robert D. Kerwin, 30438 -:PV Drive East, applicant stated
he has made an effort to make the house an asset to the
neighborhood. Mr. Kerwin discussed the removal of the arch-
way to be no problem and mentioned written resident concerns
addressed issues other than those included in his request.
Mr. Kerwin noted his willingness to work with the geologist to
improve drainage and stated the fill under the major footprint
of the house as 2' deep. The proposed grading of 236 cubic yards,
187 yards of cut and 160 cubic yards under the footprint were
stressed by Mr. Kerwin to be less than those constructed on gently
sloping lots.
The Commission discussed landscaping as well as the Public Works
Department's requirements.
Mr. Gary C. Maxwell, 1455 Crenshaw Boulevard, #260A, Torrance,
applicant's architect, stated the proposed location of the house
was the best bedrock exposure with the least amount of fill.
Mr. Maxwell noted compliance with the City's geological requests
and stated an effort was made to impact the site as little as possi-
bel . The intended installation of a velocity dissipator at the base
of the drain was also mentioned.
The Commission discussed landscaping plans to include trees not
exceeding the whole ridgeline and the plotting of the site's
easement was mentioned.
Concerned citizens were:
Marie
Bowers
30529
Santa Luna
Ralph
Geise
30530
PV Dr. East
James
Jones
2747
Vista Mesa Drive
Naomi
Phillips
2834
Calle Aventura
John
Sorrels
2738
Vista Mesa Drive
Arthur
Zinkin
30543
Santa Luna Drive
These citizens discussed: Site stability, the large size of the
house, drainage, view obstruction, grading, road safety/improvements
and traffic during construction were noted as citizen concerns.
Chairman McNulty closed the public hearing.
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December 10, 1985
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Commission concerns were voiced as difficult access, construction
equipment placement/safety, drainage, and maintenance of the
drainage system underneath the bridge structure.
Staff noted the City's maintenance of the portions of the
drainage system within the City's road easements (including catch
basins and portions within 25' of road easements) and stated
applicants responsibility for maintenance of remaining portions.
The Commission noted the Public Works Department's opi ni on that
the widening of PV Dr. East is unlikely.
Mr. McNulty moved to adopt Resolution P. C. No. 86-2 approving
Variance 111, Grading Application 759 and Encroachment Permit
subject to the Conditions in Exhibit "A" of staff's recommendations.
Mr. Von Hagen seconded the motion.
The Commi ssi on discussed the reduction of the setback and encroach-
ment into the setback.
Mr. Hodge moved an amendment to the motion to include the
maintenance of the front setback at the 20' required, accepted
by Mr. McNulty and seconded by Mr. Von Hagen.
Mrs. Ortolano moved an amendment to the motion to include:
(1) Condi ti on 12 be modi fl ed to read, "The applicants shall
install an automatic garage door opener and roll -up type garage
doors."
(2) A Condition 14 be added to read, "The height of the trees not
to exceed the whole rl dgelr ne . "
(3) Staff to instruct the Commission concerning language regarding
the equipment placement during the construction phase of the property.
The amendment was accepted by Mr.McNulty and seconded by Mr. Von Hagen.
The motion was unanimously passed as amended.
Staff noted Resolution P. C. No. 86-2>;:would be presented to the
Commission for approval at the January 14, 1986 meeting.
Chairman McNulty_ advised applicant of appeal
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December 10, 1985
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CUP 33-Ma3or Amendment
Gi rardi_
#5 Burrell Lane
height, and allow vehicular access
recommended the Commission approve
revisions, directing the applicant
Commi ssi on instruction.
Associate Planner Steve Rubin
presented the staff report on
this request to revised building
footprint, increase building
from Crenshaw Boulevard. Staff
CUP 33 -Major Amendment with
to revise the plans per
Staff noted the City Attorney's opi ni on that the Commi s sl on may
amend Condition No. 8 of Resolution P. C. No. 78-31 by amending
the ridgeline for Lot 7 if it believes such a building height
increase is appropriate.
Staff discussed view obstruction and stated the two-story portion
of the house at a height of 29 feet would not significantly obstruct
views as defined in the Development Code. Staff noted views over
Lots 6 and 7 were not considered critical in the original review
of CUP 33 and that vegetation on any of the lots in Tract 32110
could grow to at least 16' (the height of a one-story house). Staff
noted Crenshaw access was not recommended even -though the Traffic
Committee recommended access be allowed with the posting of a
bond for closing same off at the time Crenshaw might be extended.
The Commi ssi on voiced concern over the mentioned plant height
of 22' in applicant's November 27, 1985 letter, and stressed
the 16' plant height li mi tati on .
Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
Mr. John Gi rardi , 504 Via Gorri on, Palos Verdes Estates, applicant,
addressed the view obstruction concern noting trees with a
maximum height of 16' could be planted, the property would be well
maintained, and stated the house is designed to give the appearance of
being a lesser height. Mr. Girardi also addressed the Crenshaw
access issue pointing out the importance of ease of access and noting
the Traffic Committee's recommendation.
The Commission voiced concern over Crenshaw access and noted the
major difference between the approved development plan and the
proposed development plan was removal of the tennis court previously
granted.
Mr. Ralph F. Witten, A.I.A., 2733 Pacific Coast Highway, Torrance,
applicant's architect, stated applicant's Crenshaw access request
is for convenience.
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December 10, 1985
Page 8
Chairman McNulty closed the public hearing.
The Commission noted the _Burrell sewer system and discussed the--_ _
precedent which would be set by allowing access to private property
off of Crenshaw.
Mrs. Ortolano moved to approve CUP 33 -Major Amendment with
revisions, directing applicant to revise plans eliminating
Crenshaw access, seconded by Mr. Von Hagen and passed unani-
mously.
Chairman McNulty advised applicant of appeal rights.
S_taf f stated its intent to bring back the Resolution of approval
for CUP 33 -Major Amendment to the January 14, 1986 meeting, at
which time it would be adopted.
NEW BUSINESS
INFORMAL HEARINGS
Vesting Tentative Maps
Code Amendment.
The Planning Commission noted
its approval of the proposed
Grading No.. 828 Assistant Planner Jack Roberts
Moller presented the staff report on
18 Di amonte Lane this request to build a new
single-family residence on a
down sloping flag lot whose total average slope exceeds 35%.
Staff recommended the approval of the application as submitted,
excluding patios, terraces, and accessways around the residence.
Staff noted the patios, terraces, and accessways to be accessory
in nature. Since the proposed si to .i s a flag lot, the driveway
was stated to serve 18 and 20 Diamonte and a planned stairway
to the house from the proposed motorcourt was discussed. Staff also
noted that applicant di.d not request a Variance for the 32' height from
the top of the ridge to the top of the lowest terrace/accessway
wall.
The Commission discussed the patios, terraces, and accessways
to be accessory and the grading and fill required as a result
of such were noted.
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December 10, 1985
Page 9- '
Mr. McNulty moved to approved Grading Application No. 828
according to staff's recommendations, excluding patios, terraces,
and accessways around the residence. Seconded by Mrs. Ortolano
and passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty advised applicant of appeal rights.
Grading No. 865 and 820 Assistant Planner Jack Roberts
Sorkin presented the staff reports on
27 La Vista Verde this request to construct a
new single-family residence,
swimming pool and tennis court involving 11,000+ cubic yards of
remedial and developmental grading. The staff recommendation was
for the Commission to approve Grading Application No. 865 and 820 without
tennis court, allowing only the pool and at -grade terrace.
Staff voiced concern over the lot's large amount of fill, the 8'
of fill needed to establish a flat area for a tennis court, and
the 8' retaining wall proposed as a result thereof. The majority
of the grading was noted to be for the planned tennis court.
Mr. Jerome A. Sorkin, 1248 Park Western Avenue, #44, applicant,
stated the original residence was built on uncompacted fill and he
tore the original house down according to architectural recommendation.
Mr. Sorkin emphasized he will attempt to restore the site and the
new residence will be placed on compacted fill. He also noted
the original caissons under the house were poured illegally thirty
years ago and the tennis court area was graded to be on a lower level.
The Commission discussed applicant's request noting the proposed
house, swimming pool and terrace to be developed on the lot's
flat portion with the exception of a 300 sq. ft. area in the north-
east portion of the terrace. The 8' of fill for the tennis court,
the 8' retaining wall required to hold the fill in order to establish
a flat area for the tenni.s court, and the large pile of dirt on the
lot were also discussed.
Mr. Marshall Lewis, 721 Latimer Road, Santa Monica, applicant's
architect, discussed applicant's intent to work with staff--to-eradi-
cate afiy--problems .--- Mr. Lewis mentioned the large pile of dirt
on the lot was generated as a result of digging out the original
caissons.
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Mr. Hodge moved to approve Grading Applications 865 and 820
according to staff's recommendations without approval of the
tennis court and the 300 sq. ft. area in the northeast portion
of the terrace, to be approved so long as within Code compliance,
with the Condition that plans containing the proper civil engineer
stamps be submitted. Seconded by Mr. McNulty and passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty advised applicant of appeal rights.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE None
(Regarding Non -Agenda Items)
STAFF
COMMISSION
ADJOURNMENT
None
None
None
The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 PM
to 6:30 PM January 14, 1986, Hesse
Park Community Building.