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Planning Commission
November 26 , 1985
The meeting was called to order at 7 : 40 PM by Chairman
McNulty at Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne
Boulevard.
PRESENT: MC NULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: HODGE
Also present were Director of Environmental Services
Sharon Hightower, Associate Planner Steve Rubin, and
Assistant Planner Greg Fuz .
COMMUNICATIONS University of California
Class Schedule was distributed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes A correction was made to Page 4 ,
November 12 , 1985 Paragraph 1 , "Mrs. Ortolano
moved to accept staff ' s recommen-
dation to adopt Resolution P.C.
No. 85-29 . . .with the following change to be made to Condition
12, ' . . .The cash, bond, or other improvement security may be
released without prior construction of such improvements by
subdivider if arrangements satisfactory to the Planning
Commission. . . '" The second sentence of Condition 12 to
remain as is . A correction was also made to Page 6 ,
pa ar aph 1, "Seconded by Mr. McNulty. . . "
Mr. Von Hagen moved to adopt the Consent Calendar as
amended with the exception of the minutes of November.
12, seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed unanimously.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
CUP 33 - Amendment Applicant requested continuance
Girardi - #5 Burrell Lane of this request to revise building
(Lot 7 , Tract 32110 ) footprint and increase height to
December 10 , 1985 .
Mr. Von Hagen moved to continue CUP 33 -- Amendment to
December 10, 1985, seconded by Mr. McNulty and passed
unanimously.
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November 26, 1985
Page 2
NEW BUSINESS
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Variance 127 - Kasuga Applicant requested continuance
29901 Avenida Magnifica of this request to allow illegally
constructed deck to remain which
results in a total downslope
height of 38' (30' is maximum allowed).
The Commission discussed Mrs. Kasuga's ability to communicate
only in Japanese and the fact that Mr. Kasuga is out of town.
Staff noted applicant will submit a continuance request in
writing.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to continue the public hearing on
Variance 127 to December 10, 1985, seconded by Mrs. Wike
and passed unanimously.
INFORMAL HEARINGS
Grading No. 845 and 846 Assistant Planner Greg Fuz
Vakill, 3841 and 3837 presented the staff report
Crest Road on this request to build
two new single family
residences on two lots whose total average slopes exceed
35% with the recommendation that applicant's request
be tabled and applicant directed to redesign the pro]ect
within sixty days and also apply for a Certificate of
Compliance for GR 846. -Jot.
Staff reported that, even though identical plans were
reviewed and approved in 1981, as a result of Code Amendment
20 staff conducted a thorough review of this proposal.
Staff also stated that the two projects under consideration
do not comply: with the Code's guidelines i but, if both
pro3ects are modified, substantial compliance can be
achieved:
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November 26, 1985
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GR 845
Staff voiced concern that the Code's retaining wall, setback
and grading regulations be satisfied and, in regard to GR 845,
recommended the residence be moved 5 1/2 feet to the east in
order to meet the required 20 foot setback from the property
line. Shifting the house was recommended to eliminate applicant':s
proposal to steepen the western slope and the elimination of
exterior access to the second floor living area via exterior
stairs was recommended in order to reduce the possibility of
creating a second dwelling unit.
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Regarding the GR 846 residence, staff voiced concern over the
location of the house, the height, the grading and the accessory
structures. The two major changes staff recommended for GR 846
were the relocation of the residence and the elimination of the
accessory structures (including the pool and spa).
Staff recommended shifting the residence 8 feet to the south in
order to minimize encroachment into the surrounding Open Space
Hazard Zone.
Staff stressed the cabana, swimming pool, spa and deck are
accessory structures and not necessary to the development of
the primary use of the site. Elimination of such accessory
structures was recommended, thereby doing away with the need
for the exterior stairs. The necessity of a 6 foot downslope
retaining wall proposed to create a pad for the accessory
structures would also be eliminated.
Grading for GR 846 was noted to be generally acceptable with
the exception of the 67% fill slope proposed next to the driveway.
Staff stressed fill should be avoided wherever possible on naturally
steep slopes.
The subject property (Parcel 9) has not been legalized and
staff noted the City Attorney's recommendation that applicant
apply for a Certificate of Compliance.
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November 26, 1985
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Commission discussion included the 1981 review/approval of the
project. The Commission questioned staff regarding contents
of applicant's original plans.
Staff stated the 1981 plans were approved after the grading
was reduced and were approved by staff after being revised per
Commission direction.
Mr. Doug McHattie, 304 Tejon Place, Palos Verdes Estates,
grading engineer on the original 1981 project, stated the current
plans to be identical to those approved in 1981 excepting
the tilt of the driveway which now goes in the opposite
direction. Mr. McHattie also noted in 1981 he was told
legalization of one parcel would dictate automatic legali-
zation of the second. Mr. McHattie noted applicant has no
problems with the elimination of the exterior stairs and
accessory structures. He also mentioned the need for review of
the plans before determining the possibility of shifting the
residences.
Sherry Ikezawa, 10 W. Packsaddle Road, Rolling Hills, part
owner, stated poor financing delayed earlier building on the
property. Mrs. Ikezawa noted staff's recommendations to in-
volve complete redesign of the homes, resulting in a hardship
to the owners. She stated there were no problems with elimina-
tion of the exterior stairs and accessory structures.
The Commission noted staff's excellent reports and stated its
desires for applicant to work closely with staff to design a
project which has greater Code conformance.
The Commission also discussed whether moving the residences
such a small amount would have a significant impact and noted
agreement with staff's recommendation of eliminating the exterior
stairs and accessory structures. The necessity of a Certificate
of Compliance was stressed.
Commission discussion continued regarding whether prior approval
of applicant's plans should influence current approval and noted
geological studies previously determined the plans to be sound.
Mrs. Ortolano made the motion to table applicant's request and
direct applicant to redesign the pro3ect within sixty (60) days
and apply for a Certificate of Compliance for GR 846. The motion
died for lack of a second.
Discussion continued regarding requesting applicant to redesign
the plans as opposed to requesting applicant to work with staff
in an effort to make a design which conforms to Code, if possible.
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November 26 , 1985
Page 5
Mr. McNulty moved to continue the item of GR 845 and
846 in order for applicant to obtain a Certificate of
Compliance for GR846 and so that applicant can work with
staff in an attempt to bring the plans into conformance
with staff's recommendations. The motion was seconded
by Mrs. Ortolano and passed unanimously.
QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - There were none.
REPORTS
STAFF Staff invited the Commission
to a pre-meeting dinner Dec. 10
in the Hesse Lounge to meet all
Department Staff .
The City' s December 13th
Holiday Party was noted
to be at 6: 00 PM, Hesse
Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
COMMISSION None
ADJOURNMENT Upon motion from Mrs. Ortolano,
seconded by Mr. McNulty and
passed unanimously, the
meeting was adjourned at 8:21 PM.