PC MINS 19850910MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
September 10, 1985
The regularly scheduled meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairman
McNulty at Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, Rancho
Palos Verdes.
PRESENT: , MCNULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN
ABSENT: WIKE
LATE
ARRIVAL: HODGE (7:40)
Also present were Director of Environmental Services, Sharon Hightower; Associate
Planner Steve Rubin; Assistant Planners Greg Fuz and Jack Roberts; Senior Planner
Ann Negendank.
COMMUNICATIONS Letter from Palos Verdes Peninsula
Horseman's Association.
CONSENT CALENDAR
(Commissioner Hodge Arrived).
Minutes of July 9 and 23, 1985 Mr. Von Hagen noted that on Page 5
of the July 9, 1985 Minutes, the
address 2139 Calle Ola Verde was
incorrect and requested that it be changed to 2139 San Nicholas.
Chairman McNulty requested that the phrase "Chairman McNulty made the following
statement for the record" on Page 2, Paragraph 3 of the July 9, 1985 Minutes be
changed to "Chairman McNulty made the following statement" - omitting the word
'record.'
Mrs. Ortolano suggested that the phrase on Page 7 of the July 9, 1985 Minutes,
"Mrs. Wike noted for the record" should remain as is.
The Minutes of July 9 and July 23 were unanimously accepted.
CUP No. 91 - Request for Extension Mrs. Ortolano moved that the two-year
Miraleste Elementary School extension be granted, seconded, and
passed unanimously.
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September 10, 1985
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Resolution P.C. No. 85-24 Approved as presented.
Denying Tentative Parcel Map 16748 - Appeal
CONTINUED BUSINESS
INFORMAL HEARINGS
CUP No. 23 - Revision V - Appeal The staff report was presented by
Hanger, Lot 2, Tract 32991 Assistant Planner Greg Fuz, who
outlined the review made by Council
and that the item was referred
back to the Commission. Staff recommended the revised plans which provides 23 feet
of side setback, Alternate A.
Robert L. Earl, Architect representing Hanger, requested Alternate Plan B be approved;
the west corridor is the criteria.
The Commission discussed the two alternatives.
Chairman McNulty moved that Alternate Plan B be approved; seconded by Mr. Von Hagen.
The motion passed on a 3-1 roll call vote as follows:
AYES: ORTOLANO, MCNULTY, VON HAGEN
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Chairman McNulty informed the applicant of his appeal rights.
NEW BUSINESS
Code Amendment No. 21
Environmental Assessment No. 475
Senior Planner Ann Negendank presented
the staff report and recommended approval.
Commission questions included the issue of adding 251 or more to the building's gross
floor area, tne proposed project vs. what exists, 7tKelanguage, provisions for private
streets for equestrian easements.
Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, representing Palos Verdes Peninsula Horsemen's Association,
stated support for the amendment, that there were 75 miles of trails already in use
in Rancho Palos Verdes not dedicated, the code amendment should not allow for new
trails unless the existing ones have a blockage, the Trail Network Plan does not en-
force this code amendment, and that the Planning Commission be the ones to consider
modifications and that there should be offers of dedication made,not actual easements
required.
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Ray Mathys, 5738 White Cliff Drive, addressed proposed dedication concerns, the main-
tenance of the proposed trails, the distance of the trails from the homeowner's pro-
perty, and that this is not a horse community.
Responding to a question he stated that trails implementation issues and others per-
taining to this code amendment need to be addressed before it is adopted. The close
proximity of these trails to residential structures need to be addressed.
Richard hubacek, 2127 General Street, representing the Palos Verdes -South Bay Sierra
Club, stated he had no specific concerns, but that the Club is out there to help.
They do a lot of hiking in the Palos Verdes Peninsula and they would like to help
develop trails and with their maintenance.
Marge Flynn, 6733 Vallon Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, representing the Council of
Homeowner's of Rancho Palos Verdes, stated she was here on behalf of Naomi Phillips,
acting President of their Council. She expressed the concern of the Council of the
proposed language of this code amendment, and that there is a discrepancy between
the "public notice" and the actual text of the proposed code amendment; the Council
requests that this code amendment be deferred until accurate public notice is made
and all potentially affected property owners within 500 feet of any required ease-
ment be duly notified. She submitted a letter reflecting these concerns signed by
her on behalf of Naomi Phillips.
The Commission discussed the need for more community input, trails on private property,
and *hA* t4e_ I ---- ee needs -te he -me -44 -i -ed reiative te who w444--il"a,-+#A,&i4-44e--t*a-14.5.,—
Chairman McNulty requested staff to reevaluate this matter and report back.
Chairman McNulty moved to continue the public hearing; seconded by Mrs. Ortolano,
and passed unanimously.
Variance No. 128 The staff report was presented by
Rizzi u Assistant Planner Greg Fuz, who
30503 Santa Luna Drive gave two alternatives for revision:
move the proposed project closer to
the house or build a new two -car garage. Staff recommended denial since feasible
alternatives exist.
Commission questions included if the property must be brought up to current code,
if the grading permit has been granted, and if a garage is required or a carport.
Chairman McNulty opened the Public Hearing,
Behshad Shokouhi, 3515 Vista Haven Road, Sherman Oaks, architect representing Rizzi,
stated that if the carport was to be built anywhere else around the property it would
block the applicant's view, the existing pits were dug before construction for geo-
logical tests to enable pouring of foundation, all work being performed has been ap-
proved by the City, and that due to the fact that this house is an -irregular shape
with no two -car garage, it allowed only a drive-thru.
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September 10, 1985
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Roger Rizzi, 30503 Santa Luna Drive, stated he had spoken to the neighbors south
of him and they approved the proposed construction.
Mrs. Ortolano moved to close the public hearing, seconded by Chairman McNulty;
and passed unanimously.
The Commission discussed the points to be considered to make findings, such as the
shape of the lot, area the property is loEzktAd, and that this house was built
before the City incorporated',' the staff alternatives, and open space requirements.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to deny the application; the motion died.
Chairman McNulty moved to approve'in
in concept application with a front setback of
1.6 feet, -h- ---- conded by Mr. Von Hagen; and
and-opensp.4ce- of, 30% in the setba�kc ; se
passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty informed the applicant of his appeal rights.
Recess was taken for five minutes at 9:45 P.M.
Meeting reconvened at 9:50 P.M.
NEW BUSINESS
INFORMAL HEAR114GS
Height Variation No. 411 - Appeal
Berini
30629 Rue de la Pierre
effect.
The staff report was presented by
Assistant Planner Jack Roberts, for
this appeal of staff's decision, and
recommended denial due to cumulative
The Commission noted that the architect had revised the plans, the new plans would
increase the ridge by 3 feet instead of 8 feet as in the original proposal denied
by staff.
Chairman McNulty asked if there had been a view analysis on revised plans. Mr.
Roberts responded no, but it could be compared with the photographs.
Mary Berini, 30629 Rue de la Pierre, stated that the reason for construction was
to add two more bedrooms, family room, and another bathroom.
David C. Buchholz, 27067 Silvermoon Lane, Rancho Palos Verdes, the applicant's
Agent, submitted photographs. He explained that the house was 25 feet in height
above natural grade. He stated that the architecture was good and this height
increase was not obstructing anyone's view.
The Commission questioned whether with the revised plans of only a 3 foot increase
if space reduction would pose a problem.
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Gary Maxwell, 1455 Crenshaw Blvd., #200A, Torrance, architect, stated that they
could live with it.
Mrs. Ortolano moved to deny the height variation; motion died.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to grant the appeal with the condition the ridge line not exceed
22 feet; seconded by Mr. Hodge.
Discussion included concern with other properties' view being obstructed, there
being no procedure to notify properties beyond 500 feet, and whether the revised
plans would significantly impair anyone's view.
The motion was passed on a 3-1 roll call vote as follows:
AYES: HODGE, MCNULTY, VON HAGEN
NOES: ORTOLANO
It was requested that applicant resubmit their design.
Applicant was informed of her appea`1 rights.
Grading No. 825- Appeal The staff report was presented by
Wong Assistant Planner Greg Fuz, who
3825 Crest Road stated the satellite dish exists and
is, by interpretation, in an open
space hazard zone. He stated that a second consideration was whether it would comply
with Code No. 20; staff recommended denial.
Melissa Wong, 3825 Crest Road, -stated that this was the most practical area for the
satellite dish and that it would only cover a quarter of one square foot, they sent
Out a notification letter, this was not located in hazard space, the lot existed be-
fore the City, and the dish weighs- only 200 pounds.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to approve to allow the satellite dish to remain, and that
applicant must get a minor exception permit; seconded by Mr. Hodge and passed
unanimously.
No Commission reports.
Staff
Specific Plan No. 2 Associate Planner Steve Rubin stated
Status and Hearing Date that September 25 has been scheduled
for another workshop on Specific Plan
No. 2.
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Director Sharon Hightower requested that the hearing date for the Specific Plan be
a separate meeting. She suggested Wednesday, October 16 be tentatively scheduled.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:45 P.M.