PC MINS 19850409MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 9, 1985
The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Chairman McNulty at the
Hesse Park Community Building, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: MCNULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Sharon W. Hightower,
Senior Planner Ann Negendank, Associate Planners Steve Rubin and Alice
Angus, Assistant Planner Greg Fuz and Secretary Ann Brenesell.
COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT CALENDAR
None
Minutes of March 26, 1985 A typographical error was
corrected. The date
should read March 26, 1985.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to approve the minutes as amended; seconded by Mrs.
Mike and passed unanimously.
WORK SESSION t Senior Planner Ann Negendank
presented the staff report of
March 26, 1985 which outlined
the following items. A brief question and answer period ensued between
staff and the Commissioners and the following recommendations were made:
Interior Access./Outside Stairs - By majority vote, the Commission agreed to
require interior access and to review the need for prohibiting exterior
stairs next year because there was not enough concern for revision at this
time.
Q District Standards - The Commission consenus was to delay review until
next year.
Fences Allowed with Minor Exception Permit - By majority vote, the Commission
supported staff recommendation to only count the portion above 42" for the
90% calculation.
OLD BUSINESS
Variance #111/Grading #759 A brief staff report was presented
30520 Palos Verdes Drive East by Associate Planner Steve Rubin
which recommended a 90 -day extension
based on applicant's request. He stated that the City was filing a Notice of
Intention to file a Notice of Violation against the subject property.
Robert Kerwin, 30438 Palos Verdes Drive East, applicant stated he will return
and attempt to prove the legality of the lot. He wished an extension to confer
with his attorney. Also, he asked the appropriateness of presenting a model
of the project and whether the issue of the legality of the lot and the Variance
could be heard simultaneously.
It was explained the model was an appropriate tool in dealing with the Variance,
should the legality of the lot be proven.
Commissioner Von Hagen moved to grant a 90 -day extension; seconded by Commissioner
Wike and passed unanimously.
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #96/VARIANCE #116 The staff report was presented
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT #461 by Associate Planner Steve Rubin
St. John Fisher which recommended adoption of
Resolution P.0 85-6 and
Variance #116 subject to conditions
contained in Exhibit A He highlighted the recommended street improvements and
gave a cost breakdown He stated that some of the work for Crest Road would
overlap with the Trail -s improvements He also said the cost breakdown reflected
the work being done individually on each frontage.
Mr. Rubin commented on the following unresolved items from the previous meeting:
Reservations of Powers, Parking Restrictions on Crest Road, and Bond Amounts
paid by Cayman Development for Crenshaw improvements.
Staff asked Commission's consideration in changing Condition #7 to specify a
time limit on the bond. The applicant hesitated in posting a bond for an
indefinite period of time and 5 years was a suggestion made by them Staff
supported this suggested time limit.
JoAnna Strada, 37 W. Huntington Drive, Arcadia, represented the Archbishop of
Los Angeles and addressed the cost of street improvements and said based on
the cost limitations already presented, it was not a problem. Regarding the
trail bond, she asked for a time limit and an amount to be agreed to by the
applicant as well as the Director of Environmental Services Lastly, regarding
Bingo, she asked that this be made subject of another Conditional Use Permit.
Shirley Schwarz, 6 Cayuse Lane, represented the Palos Verdes Horsemens
Association and supported staff's recommendation.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree, represented the Palos Verdes Horesmens Assocation and
favored staff's recommendation and was concerned with specific improvements
and the timing of the trail She added that the Trails Study of 1982 does not
address equestrian trails immediately adjacent to a street and, therefore,
asked to participate in the development of that standard. She asked that the
Commission reenact the Large Animal Advisory Committee for this purpose.
The Commission asked staff for suggestions for an appropriate process for any
interested party to address the issue before the trail is adopted.
Director Hightower was aware that some adaptations are necessary She did not
have a precise process to suggest, but she said information and suggestions
could be made to the Environmental Services Department
One Commissioner iterated that approval of the trails plans should not be
by committee but by staff.
When asked how the public could be notified of the trail (specifically, PVPHA)
Director Hightower replied that it could be done on a personal level.
Jo Bright, 15 Crestwind Drive, addressed the parking situation and supported
Condition #10, prohibiting Bingo.
There being no further requests to speak, Mr. Von Hagen moved to close the public
hearing; seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed unanimously.
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April 9, 1985
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Commission discussion ensued which related to the cooperativeness of the
applicant and the appropriateness of the City requiring street improvements,
a time limit on the trails bond , and the parking situation.
The pros and cons of Condition #5 were discussed. Since the applicant is
already short the parking requirement, it was felt in the instance of
simultaneous use, this condition would minimize street parking. However,
in opposition was the thought that excessive entanglement existed and,
therefore, foreclosed solutions.
Without further discussion, it was the consensus of the Commission to reword
Condition #5 as follows:
"The Church facility shall be operated in such a manner so as to best
avoid simultaneous demand for maximum parking requirements which would
exceed 359 spaces on site. An agreement to this effect shall be
recorded by the applicant prior to issuance of a building permit.
Should demand require such, the church shall utilize attendant
parking Using tandem parking to increase parking capacity.
Concern was aired relative to the applicant's request that the trails bond
be negotiable.
When the Commission asked the Director to specify an amount, she replied that
the City had no idea what the bond amount would be for this at this time
since there Was no design yet.
The of the Commission -Was that the trails bond amount should not be
a negotiable item.
When asked if there was a vehicle for the applicant to use to object to the
bond amount rather than letting the Conditional Use Permit expire, Director
Hightower said, at the very least, the applicant could appeal the condition
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Discussion of elimination of condition #10 relating to Bingo ensued. Director
Hightower cautioned that the interpretation that maY need to be made later is
what is a church facility and church use, so she recommended that bingo be an
amendment to the C.U.P.
By majority, the CU00fssf0n supported deleting Condition #10 with the rationale
that traffic is the issue and not bingo itself and Condition #5 addresses
the traffic situation. Mrs. Wike remained in opposition based on the fact that
if the issue is not addressed now, it cannot be considered later'
Another issue raised was the condition requiring the applicant to provide a
raised median on Crenshaw. With Mrs. Wike in opposition, the 0a'Vrltv
supported the recommendation Of the Public Works Director and agreed that the
median is required for safety reasons.
Discussion then centered around exempting the Church from moving the power
4�//K^^ poles at a later date, should it become necessary. It was decided that it was
not a requirement at this time and that the City could not come back after the
fact and require the removal by the church. .
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unable to be financially responsible for removing the power
Staff requested that the wording of Condition #6 be changed to include
at Director's approval and the Commission concurred.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to adopt Resolution P.C. No. 85-6 in concept, approving
Conditional Use Permit #96, with the proposed changes, Final Negative Declara-
tion for Environmental Assessment #461 and approve Variance 1116 for reduction
in parking requirements; seconded by Mr. McNulty and passed on a 3 to 1
roll call vote with Mrs. Wike dissenting. Mrs. Wike stated for the record
that her vote was not in opposition to the application for construction of a
social hall but rather the unrelated relationship between the condition
imposed by Exhibit A, #7, the City's trails standards plan, and the benefit
conferred to the applicant.
TPM 16778/EA 461 The staff report of 419185
3270 Via Campesina was presented by Associate Planner
Steve Rubin which recommended
adoption of Resolution P.C.
No.85- approving the Final Negative Declaration for Environmental
Assessment 463 and TPM 16778 based on the fact that TPM 16778 is in
conformance with the City's Development Code and State Subdivision Map Act.
A concern was raised regarding the maintenance of the upper strip of land
by the driveway.
The public hearing was opened by Chairman McNulty.
Racho Palos Verdes resident, Mr. Schneider, 24506 Crenshaw Boulevard , aired
his objection of the proposed project and stated it was not commensurate with
the development in the area (proposed house too small) and therefore property
values could be decreased. He stated he owned a piece of property in the
area.
Richard Meine, 3270 Via Campesina, applicant, was present and available for
questions. He simply stated his intention was not to detract from the
neighborhood and that he intended to maintain the upper portion of the lot.
Without further speakers, Mrs. Ortolano moved to close the public hearing;
seconded by Chairman McNulty and passed unanimously.
Staff was instructed to bring back language requiring proper maintenance of
the upper "tail" to parcel 'A'.
Commissioner Ortolano moved to approved Resolution P.C. No. 85- in concept,
with the additional condition that the tail of the lot be cared for by the
owner and review of the language by the Planning Commission; seconded by
Commissioner Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
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April 9, 1985
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GRADING #692/ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT #457 The staff report was presented by
LOTS 13 & 14, TRACT 32574 Associate Planner Steve Rubin
which recommended approval of
Grading #692 and Final Negative
Declaration for Environmental Assessment #457, subject to mitigation measures
contained in the Initial Study. He gave a brief history, highlighted project
considerations and outlined Environmental Issues as stated in the 4/9/85
staff report. He supported approval of the applicant's request to allow
these property owners of Lots 13 and 14 to perform remedial grading in an
existing drainage channel. He stated the City's main concern is for the
preservation of the lower portion of the channel during construction and
afterwards.
John Vilicich, 1622 S. Gaffey, applicant, requested the Commission to write
letter to the Flood Control District relating to the distribution of costs.
The Commission consensus was that this request should be made to Council for
a letter to Dean Dana's office.
Without further discussion, Chairman McNulty moved to approve Grading #692
and Final Negative Declaration for Environmental Assessment #457 subject to
mitigation measures and further recommended that the City get involved by
letter from City Council or the Mayor to the appropriate County department
and further recommended fencing be installed as a protective measure pending
completion of the project; seconded by Mr. Von Hagen, and passed unanimously.
GRADING #788 - APPEAL The staff report was presented
29501 Ocean Port Road by Assistant Planner Greg Fuz
which recommended denial of
Grading #788 - Appeal.
Bob Parker, applicant, 29501 Oceanport Road, explained his project as part
of a landscape remodel. He presented landscape drawings for review. He said
he objected to the cantilever option because of the additional cost.
The Commissioners aired some concern about the number of pilings in the slope
and asked about the feasibility of scaling down the deck. However, because
of the uniqueness of the parcel of land, Mr. Von Hagen moved to approve
Grading Application #788 - Appeal.
Following the motion, several conditions were discussed as follows:
(1) space between the floor of the deck shall be screened on all sides by land-
scaping and approved by the Director of Environmental Services, (2) the color of
the deck structure shall be natural wood or earth tones approved by Director of
Environmental Services, (2) run-off from the deck shall be collected and
discharged in a manner approved by the City Engineer and, (4) rain gutters
and downspouts shall be installed on the primary structure.
Mr. Von Hagen amended his motion to include the 4 conditions; seconded, and
passed unanimously.
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REPORTS
COMMISSION None
STAFF None
ADJOURNMENT It was moved, seconded and passed
unanimously to adjourn at 9:40 p.m
to April 23, 1985 at 6:30 p.m.