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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
FEBRUARY 26, 1985
The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Chairman McNulty at 29301
Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: MCNULTY, BROWN, VON HAGEN, WIKE
ABSENT: ORTOLANO
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Sharon W. Hightower,
Associate Planner Steve Rubin and Secretary Ann Brenesell.
COMMUNICATIONS Chairman McNulty acknowledged the
following communications -
3 letters regarding Conditional Use
Permit No. 90 and 1 letter from Rancho Palos Verdes resident Mary Knight regarding
parking problems on public streets surrounding Marymount College.
Staff was asked to follow up regarding these parking concerns.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MINUTES
February 12, 1985
at the next Planning Commission meeting.
By Commission consensus, the
minutes of February 12, 1985 were
tabled for further discussion
OLD BUSINESS
VARIANCE #111
30520 Palos Verdes Drive East
Kerwin Associate Planner Steve Rubin gave a
brief update and recommended a
continuance of the public hearing to
the March 26, 1985 Planning Commission meeting.
Dr. Brown moved, seconded by Mr. Von Hagen, and passed unanimously to continue
the public hearing until the March 26, 1985 Planning Commission meeting.
It was made clear, however, by a Commissioner that a decision would
not be made based merely on the time frame.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #90
22 Cayuse Lane
Parvis Parsa Associate Planner Steve Rubin
presented the staff report which
recommended denial of CUP #90
based on concerns relative to septic tank capacity and intensifying use in an
existing residential setting. However, he clarified that even if the CUP was
denied, it did not mean the use would revert back to residential.It could still
operate at its existing capacity
Mr Rubin stated that prior to the meeting, Dr. Parsa's attorney had requested
a 90 -day extension.
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February 26, 1985
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A brief question and answer period ensued between Commission and staff
regarding whether or not any revised plans had been submitted to staff since
the last hearing in August 1984, and the pros and cons of allowing the applicant's
request for an extension of time. If the application was denied, the question of
a 90 day extension was mute. Also an inquiry arose whether there was an up-
to-date state license.
Staff iterated there had been no submittal of revised plans since August,
1984. It was also stated that there is no future plans to hook up that area to
a public sewer system and lastly, staff noted it was a State licensed facility
and could, therefore, only assume that its license was up-to-date.
The public hearing was declared opened by Chairman McNulty.
Raymond Winters, 1611 So. Pacific Coast Highway, Suite 206, Redondo Beach,
attorney, represented Dr. Parsa and requested a 90 -day time extension to
revise the physical plans. He stated the septic tank capacity testing had
been completed but septic capacity had not been reported yet.
Commission concern centered on the length of time already given to the applicant
and that revised plans had not yet been submitted to staff. Concern was raised as
to why there had been no activity on the part of Dr. Parsa during that time.
Residents speaking in opposition to Conditional Use Permit #90 were:
Sandra Watkins, 1 Chapparal Lane
La Von Malin, 9 Cayuse Lane
Mr. and Mrs. Ron Clark, 24 Cayuse Lane
Mariane Kipper, 5 ChapparalLane
Earl Cooke, 2 Chapparal Lane
Citizen objections related to increased noise levels, theft from boarding home
employees, appropriateness to the surrounding environment, aesthetics, parked
cars blocking emergency vehicle access, septic tank capacity, and the
effect on surrounding property values.
Mrs. Kipper stated the reason the residents were not interested in hook up
to a local sewer system was because of the expense of the massive pumping
required to access the system.
When Mrs. Kipper was asked by a Commission member whether she would be in
favor of a time extension, she stated no because there had been 2 public
hearings to date and there had been no progress made by Dr. Parsa; and
also that the issues had not changed.
Dr. Parsa, 22 Cayuse Lane, stated the residence was a boarding home and not a
convalescent hospital; that the residents were boarders and not patients
and that they could care for themselves. He also stated he had only two
employees and that they did not own cars; therefore, he believed parking was not
a problem. Relative to noise, he felt there was also no problem.
Discussion ensued regarding the number of employees. The Commission further
questioned Dr. Parsa in this regard and asked if he considered the resident
managers as employees.
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February 26, 1985
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Dr. Parsa replied he had two employees plus management.
A Commissioner was concerned whether or not residents could actually care for
themselves or whether or not they required medical care. Discussion ensued
relative to the type of facility that existed and state requirements.
Following these questions, Dr. Parsa stated his State license had been
renewed.
A Commissioner reiterated the areas of concern to be the proposed expansion and
its non -compatibility and the sewage disposal. It was stated that the City
has institutionally zoned areas in Rancho Palos Verdes and the question was
whether the expansion was appropriate in a residential area.
Staff stated that by State Law the City cannot disallow a Boarding care facility
to house six people or less.
Rationale supporting Conditional Use Permit denial was based on the continuing
concern relative to the sewage problem, an inordinate amount of time allowed
to address the problem by the applicant with no attempt on the applicant's
part to expedite matters and the appropriateness of expansion resulting
in intensifying the use in a residential area.
The Commission pointed out that this denial would prohibit the applicant
from reapplying within one year.
Dr. Brown moved to Adopt Resolution P. C. No. 85-5 denying Conditional Use Permit
No. 90, seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty advised the applicant that the Planning Commission action
was appealable to the City Council within 15 days of this date.
NEW BUSINESS
VARIANCE #115 'COASTAL PERMIT #11
4161 Maritime Drive - O'Brien The staff report was presented by
Associate Planner Steve Rubin which
recommended approval of Variance #115,
Coastal Permit #11 subject to conditions in Exhibit 'A'.
A Commissioner asked for an explanation as to the reason for the delay in
applying for the Variance.
Staff response was that the applicant believed that the existing conditions
in the neighborhood were at variance with code standards and therefore he
should not need a variance.
Commission concern centered around not knowing the structural integrity of
the deck and its projection and size.
The public hearing was opened by Chairman McNulty.
Mike O'Brien, 4161 Maritime, iapplicant stated that according to his builder
permits were pulled.
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February 26, 1985
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Responding to what services he had contracted for, the applicant stated
reroof, interior walls, kitchen remodel and deck. He stated his intention
with the deck, however, was to maximize the use of the property and that
there already existed structures in the neighborhood less than 10 feet from
the curb.
The applicant in answer to how and when he was notified of the violation
said he was notified by letter from Greg Fuz months ago. He stated he asked
the builder to reply.
In checking the records, it was discovered the applicant personally pulled
the building permit after receipt of the code enforcement letter. The permit
included the reroofing and interior remodel only; the deck was excluded and
was so stated on the permit.
Bill McLaughlin, 4157 Maritime, supported the Variance and stated he was
probably the most affected by the deck; however, he had no objections
and that in his opinion it fully conformed with the already existing
neighborhood standards.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to continue the public hearing to allow the applicant time
to submit plans to Building and Safety, (paying for a plan check and a special
inspection), seconded by Dr. Brown and passed unanimously.
Results of the plan check and inspection are to be brought back to the
Commission for further consideration.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #96
VARIANCE #116
St. John Fisher Associate Planner Steve Rubin
presented the staff report which
recommended approval of Conditional
Use Permit #96, Variance #116, and Draft Negative Declaration for Environmental
Assessment #461 subject to the conditions of Exhibit W.
Mr. Rubin explained the Variance related only to the parking and that there was
no issue with height. Staff discussion concentrated on parking requirements
supported by staff findings and the alternative of a reciprocal parking
arrangement. He also stated similar Variances with reciprocal agreements
have been granted previously.
He also discussed the landscaping issue; the intent is to eliminate large
expansives of pavement.
Staff believed that the Commission should consider requiring improvements of
equestrian trails along the Crenshaw and Crest Road frontages in keeping with
the recently adopted Trails Plan and referred to Condition #7 of Exhibit
'A' and read new language as follows: "The applicant shall submit plans
subject to the City's Trails Standards Plan, for approval by the Director
of Environmental services, to improve designated equestrian trails within the
public right-of-way along its property frontage along Crest Road and Crenshaw
Boulevard. In addition, the applicant shall post a cash deposit or bond for
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the improvement of said trails in an
Director of Environmental Services.
of certain existing improvements."
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This will necessitate the relocation
The issue of parking enforcement ensued between staff and Commission.
Staff stated the difficulty of enforcement on a regular basis and the intent
was to rely on the applicant's good faith effort as well as staff's
response to complaints or violations, when they occur.
Staff was asked if the Horsemens' Association was notified since they are
interested in obtaining a loop. Staff replied yes they were notified about
the hearing.
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Further Commission questions arose which related to exterior lighting and
reciprocal parking.
The public hearing was declared opened by Chairman McNulty.
Jo Anna Strada of John Bartlett Associates, 37 W. Huntington Drive, Arcadia
spoke in favor of Conditional Use Permit 96, Variance 116 and addressed the
issues raised which related to Trails, Lighting, Parking, Landscaping and
Grading. Regarding trails she expressesd a willingness to cooperate in
posting a bond for equestrian trail improvements, and agreed to assess the
lighting situation. Regardingap rking, however, she did not feel a
reciprocal agreement with Sisters of Mary and Joseph facility was feasible
because of the distance. However, she suggested the possibility of
attendant/tandem parking for special functions. Regarding landsca in , she
stated the necessity of a parking lot play area for school children(K-8}
and that more landscaping could limit that area for playground space and
also that it may further reduce available parking.
Dr. Brown moved to close the public hearing, seconded by Mr. Von Hagen and
passed unanimously.
Lengthy Commission discussion ensued relative to bonding and trails.
Chairman McNulty moved to approve Resolution P.C. No. 85-6, subject to
Exhibit A, changing condition #5 to read: "excessive parking shall be
handled by the applicant in a tandem parking situation with adequate
attendants anytime excessive parking is anticipated subject to periodic
site review by staff" and revising .Condition #7 as discussed with staff
bringing back the revised language; seconded by Dr. Brown .
Commissioner's rationale in opposition to approving the Conditional Use
Permit was centered around the inappropriateness of Condition #7 relating
to improvement of the equestrian trail by the Church.
Commissioners in favor of the Conditional Use Permit supported the requirement
of Condition #7 based on past efforts relating to the Trail Plan and in
addition, the applicant's expressed willingness to post a bond for improvements.
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Roll Call Vote: Noes: Brown, Wike
Yeses: Von Hagen, McNulty
It was pointed out by a Commissioner that the trail lies in the public
right-of-way and an easement already exists so a trail would not be eliminated
even if the City did not require the bond.
It was recommended by Director of Environmental Services that the public hearing
be reopened so that Mrs. Ortolano could participate in the hearing process and
subsequent voting as she was absent from this meeting.
After the original motion failed, Dr. Brown moved to reopen and continue
the public hearing; seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed on a 3-1 vote with
Mr. Von Hagen disssenting.
Roll Call Vote: Noes: Von Hagen
Yeses: Brown, Wike & McNulty (for purpose of bringing the
application back for another vote
because of a deadlock and in the
interest of time and resolving the
issue was the reason for Chairman
McNulty's vote)
REPORTS
STAFF Associate Planner Steve Rubin
gave a brief update on Variances
#113 and #114, both of which had
been denied by Planning Commission. He stated Variance #113, applicant
Steve Tondre was appealing to the City Council and Variance #114, applicant
Mr. Leedy withdrew his appeal.
COMMISSION Chairman McNulty reported on his
attendance at the Palm Desert
retreat.
Chairman McNulty also iterated the Traffic Committee Chairman's concern
about the parking problem at Marymount College. He asked staff to
investigate the original C.U.P. to see if there was any language referring
to "adequate parking". Director Hightower stated there was not.
Mrs. Wike aired her discontent relative to the present format of the minutes
and requested longer minutes in the future.
ADJOURNMENT It was moved and seconded and
passed unanimously to adjourn at
11:00 p.m. to March 5, 1985 at
6 p.m. to a joint City Council/Planning Commission work session.