PC MINS 19850115MINUTES
Planning Commission Meeting
January 15, 1985
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. in the Hesse Park Community
Building at 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard by Chairman McNulty.
PRESENT: BROWN, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE, MCNULTY
Also present were Associate Planner Steve Rubin, Assistant Planner Phyllis
Parker and Secretary Ann Brenesell.
COMMUNICATIONS
from Coast Property Management to Robert McNulty
Planning Council (SWAPC) correspondence.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes 12/5/84
Minutes of 12/11/84
Resolution for Variance #112
The following communications
were received and
acknowledged: letter from
Mrs. Rose DiSanto, letter
and Southwest Area
It was the consensus of the
Commission to hold the
minutes of 12/5/84 and the
Resolution for Variance #112
until the end of the
meeting.
Dr. Brown moved to approve the minutes of December 11, 1984, seconded by
Chairman McNulty and passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS Assistant Planner Phyllis
GPA#15, ZC#14, EA#460 Parker presented brief back-
ground and outlined environ-
mental issues as outlined
in the staff report of 1/15/85 which recommended denial of General Plan #15,
Zone Change #14.
Chairman McNulty opened the public hearing.
Testimony received in support of the General Plan Amendment #15 was presented
by Leon Zamfirescu, applicant, 1631 Stonewood Court, San Pedro. He clarified
his previous and present proposals and reiterated his reason for this request:
his lots would be compatible with the adjacent lots of the Cayman Tract. Upon
request from the Commission, he verified the proposed lot sizes as under
12,000 square feet.
Alvin Rosenthal, 29716 Whitley Collins, opposed the request and cited the
City's pasthistory of enforcement of the General Plan and the proven benefits
to City residents; questioned the setting of a precedent, was concerned with
cumulative impact potential and suggested the continuation of the bike path
and greenbelt along Crest frontage.
A Commissioner pointed out that the proposed lots would be further reduced in
size if the bike path and greenbelt were to be continued along the Crest frontage
and that Cayman's lots generally were larger than 12,000 square feet.
Dr. Brown moved to close the. public hearing;seconded by Mr. Von Hagen and
passed unanimously.
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One Member's concern centered on the inappropriateness of "spot zoning"
while the Commission consensus for denial of GPA #15 was based on the
creation of inadequately sized lots.
Following brief Commission discussion, Dr. Brown moved to adopt Resolution
P.C. No. 85-1 denying General Plan Amendment #15 and Zone Change #14;
seconded by Mrs. Ortolano and passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty reiterated the Commission's action was a recomendation
to City Council to deny GPA #15, ZC#14. He stated if it is appealed
within 15 calendar days, the Council would then set a date for a
public hearing; otherwise, there would be no public hearing; and the City
Council action would be a simple vote on a staff recommendation to support the
Planning Commission decision.
VARIANCE #113 Assistant Planner Phyllis
Tondre Parker presented the staff
1805 Peninsula Verde Drive report which recommended
adopting Resolution No. P.C.
85-2 denying Variance 113 requiring removal of the storage shed.
Commission questions to staff related to when the shed was constructed,
the possibility of compliance with an MEP application, and the consideration
of alternate locations.
The public hearing was opened by Chairman McNulty.
Steve Tondre, applicant, 1805 Peninsula Verde, requested approval of the
variance based on the uniqueness of his property as he felt was already
recognized by the Commission by approval of Variance 104 ,that all
corner lots are not similiar because the hill on his property decreases
the useable area and because a security problem exists related to the housing
project located at the rear of his property. The subject shed would secure
tools and aid in securing his property in general.
A Commission member stated that Variance 104 dealt with a fence which was
not at all applicable to Variance No. 113 for a storage shed.
When asked why permits were never pulled for the shed, Mr. Tondre replied
that he felt it would not have been approved.
Dr. Brown moved to close the public hearing; seconded by Mrs. Mike and
passed unanimously.
Commission comments centered on the fact there were no exceptional circumstances
found nor substantial loss of property owners' rights, and that the security aspect
did not relate to the size of the shed; also the housing project existed prior
to Mr. Tondre's purchase of the house.
The following comments supported approval of Variance 113; the shed was not
visible from the street, and the applicant would be the only one to suffer
while there was no harm to the public welfare.
Dr. Brown raved to adopt Resolution P.C. No. 85-2 denying Variance No. I13;
seconded by Mrs. Mike and passed on a 4 to I roll call vote with Mrs.
Ortolano dissenting.
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HEIGHT VARIATION #370 - APPEAL Associate Planner Steve
Wilde Rubin presented the staff
report of 1/15/85 which
recommended denial of the
appeal, upholding staff approval. He reiterated the neighbor's concerns as
potential view impairment, the number of residents residing in the house,
and decrease in privacy to adjacent properties. Mr. Rubin stated the view
issue was the determining criteria for evaluation and that in staff's
opinion there was not significant view impairment.
Commission questions related to clarification of terminology of significant
view, height addition of 24' versus 26' and lot coverage.
Citizens in support of the appeal were:
Dr. and Mrs. Robert Wilde, 26615 Whitehorn, RPV
Kathleen Elkin, 2661 Whitehorn, RPV
Dick Smith, 26604 Shadow Wood, RPV
Arthur Beitl, 5138 Elkmont, RPV
Their comments centered around preservation of homogeneity, possible depreciation
of property values, view impact (including obstruction by parkway trees), City's
disregard of private CC&R's, questioned whether the governing body truly
represented the citizens, and stated that in their opinion an alternative
existed for a smaller single story expansion.
A representive for Mr Yu, owner of 26605 Whitehorn, was present but chose
not to address the Commission and stated Mr. Yu wanted to do what was considered
legal and within Code.
The consensus of the Commission was the concern for the entire City not just
this particular tract and that the merits of each case were examined
individually. The central issue considered was view. In this case, the,
Commission's opinion was that a sfh4l view impairmemtldid exist.a-nd it4wourdote '2flf�
significantly impaired;therefore; Dr. Brown moved to grant approval to Height
Variation #370 - Appeal denying staff approval; seconded by Mr. McNulty
and passed unanimously.
Chairman McNulty called a short recess at 10:10 p.m. and reconvened at 10:20 p.m.
SITE PLAN REVIEW #3014
approval of alteration to the BGR line for
Plan. Mr. Rubin stated the proposal would
area and in altering the BGR line no impact
BGR line.
Associate Planner Steve
Rubin presented the staff
report which recommended
Lot 40 as proposed by the Site
not affect the existing drainage
on the intended purpose of the
Commission aired concern relative to a possible problem with pool fencing and
creating a situation for a Variance or MEP application, drainage and three
curb cuts.
Joe Gonzalez, 6042 Ocean Terrace Drive, RPV, contractor for the proposed
house stated his client would be willing to remove the third curb cut if it
were a problem.
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The Commission majority felt it was not a problem.
A concern was raised regarding altering the BGR line and its effects on drainage.
Mr. Von Hagen moved to approve Alternative i#1 as proposed by the applicant
with no additional conditions; seconded by Chairman McNulty and passed
on a 4 to 1 roll call vote with Mrs. Wike dissenting.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #58
Minor Amendment 'A'
T&T, Tract 39673 The staff report was
presented by Associate
Planner Steve Rubin with
a brief background.
He stated that by reducing the amount of common open space, it provides
greater private yard space to the potential buyers and could eliminate potential
maintenance problems of the common open space. Mr. Rubin recommended
approval of the application as proposed by the applicant.
Ross Bolton, South Bay Engineering, 304 Tejon Place, PVE represented
the applicant and stated their major concern was for the maintenance
of landscaping in the common open space.
After brief discussion, the consenus of the Commission was to support
the application but not carte blanche, with minor alterations being
decided upon by staff.
Dr. Brown moved to approve the staff recommendation, seconded by Mr.
McNulty and passed unanimously.
Staff Associate Planner
Steve Rubin advised that
Al Levitt's project had
been withdrawn from the City of Rancho Palos Verdes and reviewed the
agenda for the January 29th Planning Commission meeting.
MINUTES
12/5/85 The following sentence
was changed to read:
The general consenus was
to maintain the current policy prohibiting construction of slopes and add
language into the code...
Dr. Brown moved to approve the minutes as amended, seconded by Chairman
McNulty and passed unanimously.
RESOLUTION P.C. NO. 85-3 It was moved and seconded
Lewis to approve Resolution P.C.
No. 85-3 and passed on a 4 to 1 vote with Mrs. Wike dissenting.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at
11:15 p.m. to 1/29/85 at
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, next to City Hall.