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PC MINS 19841113MINUTES City of Rancho Palos Verdes Planning Commission Regular Meeting November 13, 1984 7:30 p.m The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. at Hesse Park Community Building at 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard by Chairman Harvey Brown. PRESENT:, BROWN, MCNULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, WIKE Also present were Associate Planner Steve Rubin, Associate Planner Alice Angus, Assistant Planner Phyllis Parker and Secretary Ann Brenesell CONSENT CALENDAR Resolution P.C. No. 84-28 CUP #92 Assorted debris on slopes (broken concrete, removed from the site.... It was the consensus of the Commission to change Item #4 in Exhibit "A" to read: dry brush, rubbish) shall be Mr. Von `Hagen moved to adopt Resolution P.C. No. 84-28 approving Conditional Use Permit #92 and the Draft Negative Declaration for Environmental Assessment #454 for the Salvation Army as amended; seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed unanimously. Minutes of October 23, 1984 NEW BUSINESS Minor Exception Permit #159 -Appeal 6616 Via Siena next Planning Commission meeting. By Commission consensus, the minutes were moved to the end of the agenda. There was a request from Mrs. Fallgren, a neighbor, to table this item until the Considerations by the Commissioners included whether additional input would be received with the postponement, the matter of courtesy versus legality in the City',s neglect to notify the interested parties and whether a hardship existed on behalf of the applicant because of the postponement. A motion followed by Dr. Brown who moved to table the item until the November 27, 1984 meeting to be held in the Community Room at 30942 Hawthorne Bouelvard seconded by Mrs. Wike and passed by majority vote with Commissioners McNulty and Von Hagen dissenting. OLD BUSINESS Revised Proposed Redevelopment Plan A brief staff report was presented by Associate Planner Alice Angus which recommended adoption of Resolution P.C. No. 84-29. Minutes November 13, 1984 Page Two A concern was aired relating to the wording of Section 4-0 of the document, and that it was not clear that homes would not be acquired for purposes of profitable development by developers. Staff clarified that the language legally states that the only property to be considered for acquisition is connected with geological hazards or road reconstruction of real property which excludes condemnation of real property for purposes of resale for private, residential, commercial and industrial use. Mr. Von Hagen moved to adopt Resolution P.C. No. 84-29 approving the Revised Proposed Redevelopment Plan for Project Area No. 1, seconded by Dr. Brown and passed unanimously. Coastal Permit No. 10 Conditonal Use Permit No. 37 Amendment B&C - Marineland 6610 Palos Verdes Drive South Associate Planner Steve Rubin presented the staff report and gave a brief history which recommended adoption of Resolution P.C. No 84-30 approving two minor amendments to the CUP #37 and approving Coastal Permit #10, subject to the conditions included in Exhibit A. The public hearing was opened by Chairman Brown. Staff was asked the reason behind the recommendation for a 3 -year period for the overnight parking of RV's/trailers and replied that it was for adminsitrative convenience and the intent was to eliminate the yearly processing. .6,v Qrvc q d? 4-e-0 lq27k,A concern was raised which related to the parking lot being converted into a camping facility, and that the two nights make it qualitatively different from one night. Ed Cappelle, 6610 Palos Verdes Drive South, represented Marineland and was present for questions. 1112�1,,A question arose regarding the use of alcoholic beverages on the premises when there is overnight parking. Mr. Cappelle answered that it is not allowed and that it does not fall within the scope of Marineland's existing license. When asked about supervision or rules for the overnight campers regarding unloading their belongings onto the parking lot, Mr. Cappelle stated the campers only use a portion of the lot and the remaining portion of the lot is used for additional parking, and it is monitored very carefully. Mr. Cappelle said two evening security officers patrol the exterior and the interior of the park at regular intervals nightly. Mr. Von Hagen moved to close the public hearing, seconded by Mr. McNulty and passed ?I C 0 Minutes November 13, 1984 Page Three Lengthy discussion ensued relative to how many nights (1,2 or 3) should be allowed for overnight campers. A reason stated in favor of 3 nights was because most of the groups involved would consist of Senior Citizens and the 3rd night would make it easier to avoid weekend traffic. Based on maintaining more control, there was opposition to allowing more than one night with the suggestion that, if more nights were allowed, that it be on a trial basis for one year, with a review following at the end of the year. Discussion also ensued centering on the City's right to prohibit the consumption of alcohol versus the sale of alcohol in the parking lot. In response to Commission concerns, Mr. Cappelle, Marineland representative, stated that the alcoholic beverage license restricted the sale of alcoholic beverages to certain designated areas within the park. After Commission discussion regarding the length of years, Mr. McNulty moved to adopt Resolution P.C. No. 84-30 approving two minor amendments to the CUP 37 for a temporary parking facility and to permit two overnight parking nights for self-contained trailer groups at Marineland subject to Exhibit A,seconded by Dr. Brown and passed on a 4-1 vote, with Mrs. Ortolano in opposition. Grading Application No. 758 -Appeal 30404 Diamonte Lane The staff report and back- ground was presented by Assistant Planner Phyllis Parker which recommended denial of the appeal to Grading #758. The Commission questioned staff's interpretation of the Development Code dealing with natural or man made slopes. It was also asked when the grading was done for the pool and the house? Staff responded that both the residence and pool were finaled in 1972 and the slopes were existing conditions as of incorporation of the City. Responding to a Commission question, staff explained the measurement procedure of slopes. Slope is determined by rise over run, the change in elevation from one point to another divided by the horizontal distance. Staff was asked to interpret and clarify the position that grading on this slope poses a threat to the public, health and welfare. Staff said the construction on slopes of this kind poses a possible threat from soil erosion due to disturbance of the slope. Mr. George Hillsinger, 30404 Diamonte Lane, landowner, referred to the possible hazard of health, safety and welfare and answered that the runoff drains at the end of the hill and there have never been any problems. The plan requires that the footings go to bedrock. In his opinion, the project does not present a hazard. He believed the project would enhance the appearance and it would be a good extension of the house. 3 Minutes November Page Four Mr. Richard Vanderwood, 31732 Via Belardes, San Juan Capistrano, applicant and designer of the proposed deck stated the grading needed is minimal and that erosion control has been considered. Mr. Vanderwood gave a brief history of events leading to the appeal and said he was previously told by the planning staff when he submitted his preliminary drawings that it would be denied by staff but might be approved by the Planning Commission, and thus proceeded on that basis. The following comments supported approval of the application: -that the slopes are not a natural characteristic of the lot but are man- made and the Development Code does not refer to man-made slopes -that the proposed deck would not pose a threat to public health and welfare and since the house is already built the deck would be an enhancement -there would be no negative impact to the downslope below the deck due to erosion control measures. Comments in opposition to the proposed deck were as follows: -the fact that the geologic stability of the existing slopes is unknown -that the slopes are considered natural in that they were existing upon incorporation to the City -that the City's Development Code and General Plan precludes development on such slopes. , Following these comments, Mr. McNulty moved to approve the Grading No. 758 -Appeal of staff denial permitting the construction of a wood deck and masonary planters on a slope which exceeds 35% subject to adequate plan check and adequate stability requirements pursuant to our Code; seconded by Mrs. Mike and passed on a 4 to 1 vote with Dr. Brown opposing. Minutes - October 23, 1984 Correction to the Commission report was as follows: If Commission Chairman attends City Council meetings, he represents the Planning Commission. Any Commissioner attending City Council meetings may speak to any item but they must disclaim that they are speaking as an individual and not as a representative of the Planning Commission unless they were appointed to speak in lieu of the Chairman. Staff The consensus of the Commission was to meet with the Planning staff for a work session on December 5, 1984 at 7:30 p.m. in the Community Room, adjacent to City Hall at 30942 Hawthorne Boulevard. Mr. McNulty moved to adjourn at 9:15 p.m.; seconded by Dr. Brown and passed.