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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
March 27, 1984
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. in the Hesse Park Cor4munity
Building at 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard by Chairman Brown.
PRESENT: BROWN, MCNULTY, ORTOLANO, VON HAGEN, W'IKE
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Sharon W. Hightower,
Associate Planners Steve Rubin and Alice Angus.
COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT CALENDAR
MINUTES OF 3/13/84
SIGN PERMIT NO. 196
MARINELAND
OLD BUSINESS
GRADING NO. 646
GABRIC
NEW BUSINESS
None
Mrs. Ortolano referred to page 6 of
the March 13, 1984 minutes to correct'
the word Liquidating to Liquidated.
A motion was made and seconded to approve
the Consent Calendar and passed unanimously.
Associate Planner Steve Rubin advised that
staff received a request from applicant's
representative to pull this item from the
agenda. It will be rescheduled at a
later date.
EASTVIEW CODE AMENDMENT Associate Planner Alice Angus presented
PUBLIC HEARING the staff report. She stated the amendment
is NOT a review of any specific development
proposal but rather deals with general
land use. She gave a brief history of the proposal and its major features
and stated that a draft Negative Delcaration was issued on March 10 and no
comments have been received. she said the Planning Commission's role is to
recommend action to the City Council. The Council is the decision making
body which issues the final determination.
Mrs. Angus asked the Planning Commission to reviewthe proposed General Plan
Amendment text, land use and zoning designations, and code revision. The
Planning Commission should take public testimony -,,t -hen revise the General
Plan Amendment, zoning, and Code if and as appropriate. After Planning
Commission recommen s actCCO-on,,---staf-f—w draft a--r(:::!�:::iolution.
Dr. Brown advised the Commission they
present sign ordinance. He reminded
proposed changes to the present sign
(2) sighting, and (3) setback.
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could accept, modify, or use the
the Commission that there are three
ordinance: (1) square footage,
Chairman Brown opened the public hearing.
Signs
Barbara Kennard, 3402 Deluna Drive, RPV spoke to the Commission regarding
the sign policy as a commercial property owner. She felt signs are
necessary for tenant identification and especially for the small businessman
located on Western Avenue. She referred to a shopping center located near
Caddington which because of "regulations" is not successful.
Mr. Youngnam Sunwoo, owner of a dry cleaning business at Westmont Plaza
was concerned about the zoning and proposed sign changes. He asked for
clarification from the Commission and staff as
s to what would be necessary
if he sold his business. He stated concern about the competition if signs
were not allowed.
Mr. Jack A. Vodrey, 12452 Rebbeca Lane, Santa Ana, represented Carl's Jr.
Restaurant at 28619 Western Avenue and addressed the sign ordinance issue.
He stated an ordinance allowing 6 foot signs was unacceptable to the
company, and they would NOT remove the sign unless the City was willing
to reimburse Carl's Jr. for the full amount of the sign. He referred to
Senate Bill No. 142, September 29, 1983, Premise Advertising. He
presented his interpretation
nterpretation of the Bill and felt the City would have to
reimburse all the merchants for the full amount of their signs. Discussion
continued relative to amortization and the City's liability.
Director Hightower reiterated the City's Code about amortization. It was
decided the matter would be referred to the City Attorney for clarification.
Louis Kanaster, 823 S. Patton Avenue, San Pedro represented several
merchants on Western Avenue, He asked for a short continuance of time to
review the document and explained that the merchants were not aware of the
notices in the Peninsula News,. He stated the merchant's concern was over
the sign section and not the development standards. He said, if a
continuance were granted, the merchants would study the ordinance, meet
with staff, and present their comments- in writing.
Nels Ostrem., 128 Mirabea.0 Avenue, San Pedro, original developer of
Western Plaza requested a 60 -day extension and requested the Planning
staff meet with the merchants- on Western. He stated*Great American Savins
offered their facility as a meeting place, He stated reasons for being
against the proposed sign changes.
Frank V. Trani, 120 Zorana Place, San Pedro, owner/partner of Western
Plaza also asked for an extension of time to digest the material.
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Nick Papadakis, 259 W. 7th Street, San Pedro; representative of Bloomin'
Petunias, 29221 So. Western Avenue; Mr. Young J. Park 29223 S. Western;
Western Tile World, 29217 S. Western; Donald D. Krall, 1000 No. Kraemer,
Anaheim all concurred with Mr. Kanaster's comments as requesting an
extension.
Sanitation District Property
Donald Heep, 1908 Avenida Feliciano addressed the issue of development
of County Sanitation District Property. He read a letter from the
Riveria Homeowners Association which stated this land as being the
only available parcel on the east side. It is its desire to have a
greenbelt, passive park with no parking and no building.
Discussion ensued relative to the feasibility of a greenbelt park.
Robert J. Bryant, 2148 Crestwood, RPV, represented AYSO and addressed
development of park land on Westmont. He proposed development of
two soccer fields, a baseball diamond, a jogging track with parking.
His proposal included an organized recreational program for the youth
of the community. Mr. Bryant stated he spoke to Mr. Davidson of the
Sanitation District, and the parcel of land is available to the City on
a $1 a year lease basis if Rancho Palos Verdes maintains the facility.
Mr. Gerald Zar, 1410 Dalmatia, San Pedro -proposed development of this
same parcel as a driving range, golf school/clinic. He said the area
would be designed aesthetically.
Pat Chartrand, 1957 Redondela Drive, RPV, asked for clarification of
the zoning and recommended commercial zoning. He and Mr. Zar propose
the driving range and school.
Lee Trudell, 26 Oceanaire Drive, RPV, recommended zone change of the
Sanitation District to CR. He proposed.a_.similar idea as Zar/Chartrand
for a driving range. He also proposed that a 1/2 acre parcel be set
aside as a park area for Sr. Citizens and to be used on a controlled
basis.
Dorothy Johnson, 28115 Montereina Drive, recommended agricultural zoning
and proposed a Christmas tree lot for that parcel with an area for park.
She felt the park facilities for small children were inadequate in that
area.
Jay D. Hodge, 28602 Friarstone Court, RPV, Strathmore Townehomes
Association, member of the Board of Directors, addressed the issue of the
Sanitation District parcel being used for greenbelt park area. He felt
the cost would be minimal to the City.
Cemetary
Mr. David Rucks, 2706 Loftyview Drive, Torrance, represented Green Hills
Memorial Park,and requested a correction to the staff report to read;
120 acres and not 114. He also suggested that Mortuary "be included
under Associated Uses."
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Mr. McNulty moved to continue the public hearing, seconded by Mr.
Von Hagen and passed unanimously.
Discussion ensued relative to the sign ordinance and the number of
signs conforming to the ordinance in the Eastview area, amortization
and Senate Bill No. 142. Chairman Brown asked that staff contact
the City Attorney f6r his interpretation.
Mrs. Ortolano inquired about the policy encouraging the unification of
the Eastview students into the Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School
District. She was opposed to including the unification issue in the
General Plan Amendment since it is out of our jurisdication. Mrs.
Wike agreed.
Mr. Von Hagen, Mr. McNulty and Dr. Brown felt the citizens of eastview
should be supported and encouraged to pursue the unification into the
school district as they are citizens of this community, and the policy
should remain.
The Commission discussed allowing an extension of time for the Sign
Ordinance. A 45 -day extension was agreed upon.
The Commission requested staff to look into the illumination of signs.
The Commission requested staff to insert language to cover the usage
of the mortuary under Associated Uses.
Commission requested staff to verify the $1 a year lease offer by the
County Sanitdt16n.District. Parks and Recreation Committee was also
requested for input on this item. It should also be discussed at the
joint meeting with the Commission.
Mr. Von Hagen raised the issue of arterial access ways. It was agreed this
was not a major issue.
RECESS
RECONVENED
10:10 P.M.
10:20 p.m.
GRADING NO. 710 The staff report was presented by Associate
LUSK & LONG Planner Steve Rubin. He said that Tentative
TRACT 31617 Tract Map 31617 was approved by City Council
on May 4, 1977, and it required a rough grading
plan to establish building pad areas and a Building Grading Restriction line
was established.
Mr. Rubin explained the purpose of the BGR line was to direct site runoff
into the street and then into drainage courses and to protect the ridge -
line from being dominated by houses.
After the rough grading was approved, staff learned it was not done
entirely to the approved plan. Staff requested and received an as -built
topography map.
Mr. Rubin corrected page 3 of the staff report to read "one inch.to 40 foot
scale," not 20 foot scale.
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Mr. Rubin explained that since the application was received, there have
been several other inquiries regarding building houses on lots with a BGR
line. This has prompted staff to bring this issue to the Commission. The
issue to be resolved is: By what method should the BGR line be located
on these lots. Discussion followed relative to this matter. Staff
recommended that the BGR line should be adjusted per the "as -built"
- rough grading plan on those lots where the "as -buil -E" topography strays
from the BGR line on the "approved" plan; provided this would not allow
a proposed house to dominate the ridgeline.
Lowell Lusk, 640 Silver Spur, RHE, represented the landowner. He
discussed drainage and felt it had very little effect on the tract in
its raw and improved state. He discussed the 18 foot encroachment
and said there have been houses built with a maximum of 22 foot
encroachment and as little as 2 foot encroachment. He suggested looking
for equity to what already exists.
Mr. John Long 640 Braeholm Place,. Hermosa Beach, stated that 18 feet is
the; - furtheres.t point and it becomes less from north -to south along the
BGR line. He stated his wish to build a safe homeandto enjoy the view
as others have.
Mr. George Shaw, 28101 Lobrook Drive, RPV, architect represented the
property owner for Lot 56. He felt the criteria that should be used to
establish the BGR is the slope interface line.
Mr. McNulty moved to direct staff to follow Alternative No. 2 to
establish a consistent method of locating the BGR line throughout Lots
oil 57-72.
Motion passed on a 3 to 2 roll call vote. Yeses: McNulty, Ortolano,
f/O/Wn Hagen, Noes: Wike I &A. 4A#-O�
Dr. Brown explained this is an appealable issue to City Council.
REPORTS
STAFF Director Hightower discussed available
dates for a joint meeting between the
Planning Commission and Parks and
Recreation. April 11 at 7:00 p.m. was decided.
Mr. Rubin asked that the motion be amended to include Lot 56 in the
BGR analysis. The Commission agreed.
ADJOURNMENT Motion was made by Mr. McNulty to adjourn
at 12:00 a.m. and seconded by Mrs. Wike and
passed.
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