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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
September 13, 1983
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. in the City Council
Chambers, 30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman Hinchliffe.
PRESENT: McNulty, Hughes, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Brown
LATE ARRIVAL: None
ABSENT: None
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Sharon W.
Hightower, Senior Planner Ann M.W. Negendank, and Assistant
Planners Jonathon Shepherd and Dino Putrino.
COMMUNICATIONS None
CONSENT CALENDAR
Item A minutes of Planning Commission meeting
of August 23, 1983.
Item B Second Units. Item B was relocated on
the agenda to Old Business as it was a
continued public hearing.
Dr. Brown made the motion to approve the Consent Calendar as amended.
Motion was seconded and unanimously passed.
OLD BUSINESS
Second Units Director Hightower presented staff report.
Resolution P.C. No. 83-13
The public hearing was opened.
Mr. Hughes questioned the language used in the two ADDS on pages 223
and 227 since the language differed from each other.
Director Hightower replied that she did not think there was need for
the language to be different and that the Exhibit could be corrected
to reflect the deletion of the present ADD on page 223 and the addition
of the same ADD as on page 227.
Dr. Brown moved to close the public hearing. Motion passed unanimously.
Dr. Brown made the motion to approve Resolution P.C. No. 83-13 with
the amendment to 17.02.020, Mr. McTaggart seconded, nfd'Lion passed 4
to-1*with Mr. Hinchliffe voting no.
NEW BUSINESS
Code Amendment No. 19 Ann M.W. Negendank presented the staff
report.
The public hearing was opened.
Clark Leonard, 1743 S. Prairie Avenue, Torrance, addressed the Commission
regarding Item H, Monumentation, of the amendment. Mr. Leonard stated
that this section of the ordinance had not been enforced until this year
and it was not used in other Los Angeles cities. Also that it was very
expensive and that there was no real need for it and that the section
should be amended. I
Mr. McTaggart asked Mr. Leonard that if someone puts up a wall didn't
they need to know where the Property lines were.
Mr. Leonard stated yes, the first owner usually did that and that the
pipes were very hard to find after a few years.
Director Hightower ---stated that the cities of Long Beach, Pasadena,
Culver City and Burbank required this monumentation.
Discussion was held between the Commission and Mr. Leonard regarding
how the pipes were installed, how many and where and what was used.
Also discussed was the amount of man hours used in the' -installation
of the markers.
Dr. Brown moved to continue the public hearing. Mr. McTaggart seconded,
motion passed unanimously.
Dr. Brown moved to approve Code Amendment No. 19 in concept with the
exception of Item J which should be brought back in resolution form
at the next meeting.
Discussion was held regarding what revisions might be required for
Item J, wall heights'iri front and-side,--setba�k:g-.--Additional information
was requested from the City Attorney.
Motion was voted on. Motion passed unanimously.
Grading No. 677 Jon Shepherd gave the staff report.
Bridges
6469 Chartres Drive Tim Racisz, 30751 Tarapaca Road, Rancho
New SFR Palos Verdes, project engineer, addressed
the Commission stating that this proposal
was presented after discussion with the planning staff and that they
had tried to meet the requirements and that the house was positioned
as near to the street as possible. The only other way to address
this lot would be to put the house on top of the lot, leave the
garage where it was, but that there still was the problem of the
driveway.
Mr. Hughes asked if Mr. Racisz would consider putting the entrance
of the garage into the slope.
Mr. Racisz replied that by doing that the drivdway would still have
to slope up twenty percent. In order to keep the house from having
to be set into the slope the driveway must slope as rapidly as possible
from the street.
Discussion was briefly held on what alternatives there were for this
application.
Dr. Brown moved to table this item and to have staff work with the
4ppli-cant on trying to solve the problems of-thig application. Mr.
McNulty seconded, motion passed unanimously.
Conditional Use Permit Dino Putrino^presented the staff report,
No. 33 - Revision correcting the report as to lots represented,
Tract 32110 deleting lot no. 1.
P.V. Park Place Home-
owners Association Mr. Putrino showed the Commission on a
Revised Wall Height diagram how the wall would be built and
where the variations in height would be
placed.
Dr. Brown asked staff if the applicant was in agreement with the
changes on lots 1 and 2.
Mr. Putrino replied yes.
Mr. Hughes asked staff if they could go along with the application
on these wall changes.
Mr. Putrino replied yes.
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Dr. Brown moved to approve Resolution P.C. 83-14. Mr. McTaggart
seconded.
Mr. Hughes asked staff if they had done a view analysis.
Mr. Putrino replied yes, that they had done an analysis from within
the park and were satisfied.
Motion passed unanimously.
Sign Permit No. 183 Dino Putrino gave staff report.
Greentree Properties -
Hughes Markets Dr. Brown stated that he felt one sign
30017�Hawthorne Blvd. was sufficient.
Second Major I.D. Sign
Mr. Hinchliffe asked when would the old
sign go down.
Mr. Putrino stated at the same time the new sign goes up.
Mr. Hinchliffe asked how long would it be for the new sign.
Mr. Ed Gardner, Innovative Graphics, 833 N. Elm, Orange, Ca., addressed
the Commission stating the new sign would go up in four to six weeks.
Mr. Norb Parsoneault, Hughes Markets, 1073 Tuttle Ave., Simi Valley
addressed the Commission stating that they would get on this right
away and would try to shorten the schedule.
Mr. Hinchliffe stated -that he,%would like to"'establish'-a date --for -this
to happen.
Mr. Gardner replied that the earliest was thirty days or four weeks
from the point he had the permits.
Mr. McNulty moved to approve Sign Permit No. 183, Mr. McTaggart
seconded, motion passed with Dr. Brown dissenting.
REPORTS
Staff Director Hightower reported_ that the East -
view Goals report was accepted at the last
City Council meeting and referred to the
Planning Commission and staff for consideration in the General Plan
Amendment,
Director Hightower also reported on the following planning items
which were on the City Council agenda of September 6, 1983.
1. Variance No. 92 (appeal)-Muckel - was approved by City Council
for a solid 5 foot wall.
2. Grading No. 670 -Vista Park (Tumanjan and Tumanjan) had been referred
back to the Planning Commission.
3. That there will be a special City Council meeting on Golden Cove
on September 26th in the City Council Chambers.
At 9:00 p.m. the motion was made for adjournment. Motion passed
unanimously.
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