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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
July 12, 1983
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Vice -Chairman McTaggart.
PRESENT: Brown, McNulty, McTaggart, Hughes
LATE ARRIVAL: None
ABSENT: Hinchliffe
Also present were Director of Environmental Services Sharon W. Hightower,
Associate Planner Sandra Massa Lavitt and Assistant Planner Jonathon
Shepherd.
COMMUNICATIONS None
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes of June 23, 1983 Dr. Brown requested that the record show
and July 12, 1983 that he was absent from the June 23, 1983
meeting and could not vote on those
minutes.
Minutes of both meetings were approved as presented.
OLD BUSINESS
Variance No. 92 Mr. Shepherd stated the two alternatives
Muckel in the staff report with staff's recommen-
6024 Ocean Terrace dation to approve Resolution PC 83-10
Revised Plans denying Variance No. 92.
Dr. Brown asked Mr. Sheperd about relocation of pool and how much pool
length would be lost.
Mr. Shepherd stated it would reduce the length of the pool by 2 to 3 feet,
however, there had been previous discussion regarding relocation of the
spa and if relocated this would cut down reduction of pool length.
Mr. Hughes asked Mr. Shepherd if a 3-1/2 foot wall with pilisters could be
built in the setback without a permit.
Mr. Shepherd replied yes, as long as the pilisters did not exceed 3-1/2 feet.
Mr. McTaggart opened the Public Hearing.
Mr. John Muckel, 4924 Sharlynne Lane, Torrance, landowner, addressed the
Commission giving his rebuttals to the Staff Findings (Sections 1-4). Mr.
Muckel also stated that the revised wall plan was compatible to the area
and showed photographs of his own windshield survey depicting the wall of
a neighbor with wrought iron on a wall. In addition, Mr. Muckel stated
that he could not move pool due to pillars that were already placed deep
into ground. '
By motion of Mr. McNulty, and seconded by Dr. Brown the Public Hearing was
closed.
The Commission questioned staff regarding neighbor's wall.
Director Hightower stated that this was a code violation.
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Mr. McNulty asked staff if the applicant could put a wrought iron fence
directly behind his 42 inch fence.
Mr. Shepherd stated that according to Code any wall/fence within 3 feet of
each other would be considered as one wall/fence height. So the total
height would be considered as 6 feet.
Dr. Brown moved to adoptā¢ Resolution No. P.C. 83-10 denying Variance No.
92, because the applicant had several legal alternatives and the findings
could not be made.
Mr. Hughes seconded, motion passed unanimously.
GOLDEN COVE Ms. Lavitt presented the staff report.
G.P.A. 12, Z.C. 12, The continued Public Hearing was opened.
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Mr. Robert Smith, applicant, 2004 Yacht
Vigilant, Newport Beach, addressed the Commission discussing trade-offs
with density vs. moderate priced units giving four different options for
various densities, with bonuses and the effect on the moderate housing
issue. Mr. Smith further stated that the landowner would be renovating
the existing Golden Cove Shopping Center and Mr. Smith also requested that
the Planning Commission at their next meeting take a vote on the zone
change, E.I.R., and one of four density options they had presented or one
of the options with modifications that the Planning Commission felt would
be appropriate.
Mr. Hughes asked Mr. Smith if in terms of market rate units at these
various densities is the assumption that they are all basically the same
price.
Mr. Smith replied no, at'the lower densities the price is higher. For
example, the 72 units would probably be in the lower $200,000 price range
at 10.5 d.u./ac, but they would be larger.
Mr. Hughes asked what size these units would be.
Mr. Smith stated that 52 of the 72 units would range from 1,500-1,700
square feet, the 20 stacked flats would be a little under 1,100 feet and
all would have enclosed garages.
Mr. McTaggart asked Mr. Smith about storm drainage and run-off at the
bluffs and if the landowner was willing at any density to make the off-site
improvements prior to commencement of the project.
Mr. Smith replied that their understanding was that there was an existing
storm drain system and that they were planning to do the storm drains on
their own site and then connect to the existing system; that they were not
aware that there were additional improvements needed to the existing
system.
Director Hightower stated that Public Works had been requested to review
the plans to see if there were any potential problems and we do not have a
final answer yet.
Mr. McTaggart asked Mr. Smith if 72 units - was the bottom line for
density.
Mr. Smith stated that any of the four densities was viable with the
trade-off for moderate priced housing.
Mr. Howard Adler, 505 No. Tustin, Santa Ana, landowner, addressed the
Commission replying to Mr. McNulty's question regarding the potential sale
of the Golden Cove Center stating that they had been talking to potential
buyers and that whether or not the Center is sold they would be putting
approximately $300,000 of rennovation into the Center.
Mr. Hughes stated the County Tax Accessor rolls did not show Golden Cove
Development Co., as the owners of the Center and asked what guarantee did
the City have that the rennovation would be done if the Center is sold.
Mr. Adler replied that they have been the owners since 1980 and that the
money could be placed in bonds to guarantee rennovation.
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Joan C. Engelke, 27028 Shorewood Road, Rancho Palos Verdes, President of
the League of Woman Voters addressed the Commission stating that the
League had a position on moderate income housing and urged the Commission
to support moderate housing in this project and any other projects in
Rancho Palos Verdes where feasible and compatible.
Motion was made by Dr. Brown to continue the Public Hearing, motion was
seconded and was passed unanimously.
Dr. Brown stated for the record that he had met on July 11th with the
applicant and his representatives in order to be updated on the proposal
since he was unable to attend the June 23rd joint meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
SIGN PERMIT NO. 168 Mr. Shepherd presented the staff report
KOREAN CHURCH and also stated the two alternative the
5640 CRESTRIDGE ROAD Planning Commission had and the staff's
FREE STANDING I.D. SIGN recommendation to approve Sign Permit
No. 168.
Mr. Hughes made motion to approve Sign Permit No. 168, Mr. McNulty seconded,
motion passed unanimously.
SIGN PERMIT NO. 173 Ms. Lavitt presented the staff report and
AUDRO TRAVEL staff's recommendation of approval for Sign
31239 PALOS VERDES DR. WEST Permit No. 173.
BUILDING FRONTAGE SIGN
Dr. Brown moved to approve Sign Permit No. 173, Mr. McNulty seconded, motion
passed unanimously.
GRADING NO. 665
D. C. WALLACE
28503 HIGHRIDGE
GRADING OF SITE
the agenda until late afternoon o
to continue, Mr. Hughes seconded,
Ms. Lavitt stated that applicant requested
that this item be continued to the next
agenda due to the fact that they had not
received their agenda and staff report and
had no notification of their placement on
n the day of this meeting. Dr. Brown moved
motion passed.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT Director Hightower addressed the Commission
PROGRAM stating that what was required of the
1983-84 Commission was to determine if the projects
listed were in conformance with the General
Plan and that she would forward that determination to the City Council.
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Dr. Brown made motion that the Commission finds that the projects listed conform
to the General Plan. Mr. McNulty seconded, motion passed with Mr. Hughes voting
no.
Meeting was adjourned at 9:12 P.M.
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