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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
August 10, 1982
The meeting was called to order at 7:36 p.m. in the City Council
Chambers, 30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman Hinchliffe.
PRESENT: Brown, Hughes, McNulty, Hinchliffe
LATE ARRIVAL: McTaggart
ABSENT: None
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Also present were Associate Planners Ann Negendank and Sandra Lavitt, Assistant
Planner Joseph Gamble, Assistant Planner Dino Putrino, and Associate Planner
Alice Bergquist Angus.
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CONSENT CALENDAR By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by
Mr. McNulty, the Consent Calendar
was unanimously passed, thereby
approving A) the minutes of the meeting of June 22, 1982; B) Conditional
Use Permit No. 81 and Resolution 82-17; and C) Grading Application No. 606.
By motion of Mr. McNulty, seconded by Mr. Hughes, the Planning Commission
unanimously agreed to hear Item 7, Capital Improvement Program at this
time.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM City Manager Guluzzy requested the
Commission to give input relative to
the suggested programs. He stated that
the Hesse and Point Vicente Parks are to cost approximately $150,000. per
year once they are completed to the 0 & M phase.
Mr. McTaggert arrived at 7:40 p.m.
Dr. Brown noted that the Commission's concerns were expressed on Page 5
of the July 27, 1982 minutes.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McNulty, and unanimously carried,
the Planning Commission recommended approval of the Capital Improvement Program
dated 82-83 and reported to the Director of Planning that it is in compliance
with the General Plan.
VARIANCE NO. 82 Assistant Planner Joseph Gamble stated that
GRADING APPLICATION NO. 604 on August 2, 1982, a letter was received
6386 Chartres Drive from Mr. Richard Hill of 6374 Chartres Drive
Landowner: Mr. & Mrs. C. Bisgaard stating that a reduction in the structure's
Applicant: Jack H. Remington height (116") would materially reduce the view
impairment to his property. He stated that
staff felt that the proposed grading is
excessive beyond that necessary for the permitted primary use of the lot even
though the applicant had offered to lower the total height of the structure by
one foot, six inches (11611). Mr. Gamble noted that the General Plan addressed
the issue of the alteration of topographical features within the City, and it
states that the alteration of terrain should be minimized through the use of
structural techniques which conform to the terrain rather than alter the terrain
to suuport the structure.
Public Hearing was re -opened.
Christopher Bisgaard, 2941 Mountain Pine Drive, La Cresenta, stated that the
Hills, his neighbors, were concerned about their view from the back porch
area. He explained to the Hills that he would lower the house's elevation
by one foot six inches (116"). He explained to the Commission that after
discussing the revised plans with his neighbor, Mr. Hill had no objection.
He claimed that Mr. Hill also had no objection to nine foot ceilings in
the living, room, family room, and dining room. He stated that the racket -
ball court will be totally underground; however, staff's interpretation of
the height of the building included the racketball court. He stated that,
in regards to grading, he would come within the grading requirements if
the pool and racketball court were not constructed. He urged the Commission
to consider the above before reaching a final decision. He mentioned
that the Architectural Committee hdd reject6d his revised plans.
Jack Remington, architect, (applicant), 304 Vista del Mar, Redondo Beach,
noted that if they bring the house closer to the street, they would be
obstructing the views of two houses across the street.
Caroline Bowerton, 6390 Chartres Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that
the house should either be lowered or brought up to the street.
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TOM 4&i-, Chairman of the Architectural Committee, stated that the plans
were rejected based on unreasonable view obstruction.
Mr. McNulty asked if those plans included decreasing the height of the
ceilings.
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replied in the negative.
Dr. Brown asked if one reason for denial was due to the size of the house.
Mr. Ali replied in the negative.
By motion of Mr. McNulty, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
Mr. Hughes stated that the proposed plans include excessive grading and
that it would be difficult to make the required Findings.
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Mr. McNulty requested additional information from staff as to whether
the grading could be reduced.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. Hughes, that the Plarming
Commission deny Variance No. 82 and Grading Application No 604 based
on staff's Findings and with the request that the draft Resolution be
brought to the next meeting.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES- Brown, Hughes, McTaggart, Hinchliffe
NOES: McNulty
ABSEXIT: None
Mr. Hinchliffe advised of the right to appeal this decision to the
City Council within 15 calendar days.
SITE PIAN REVIEW NO. 2142
Miscellaneous hearing
5806 Ocean Terrace - Lot 22,
Tract 31617
Landowner/Applicant: Kris
Kazarian
in the tract. She offered to the
the third alternative to allow at
foot maxirmn retaining wall.
Associate Plarmer Sandra Lavitt stated
that the applicant was requesting
approval for the construction of pool
decking, a three-foot retaining wall and
fire pit which would encroach into the
"BGR!" area. She noted that the house
was built close to the 'SM' line, as
in the case with much of the construction
Commission three alternatives, recommending
grade patio slabs, decking and one three -
Ms. Lavitt informed the Coamissian that this was not to be a public hearing,
but that a representative of the owner was present to address the Commission.
Mr. McTaggart gave a background of this issue to the Candssion.
Dave Hayward, 2550 W. 37th Street, Torrance, representing the applicant,
stated that the proposed plans would not obstruct the views of neighbors,
and the proposed plans would not impact the aesthetics from the dam hill
side. He noted that the plans had the "BGR!' line in the proper position,
adding that the previous displacement of the line was not the error of
staff.
Mr. McNulty asked if the "BGR!' line had ever been varied.
Ms. Lavitt replied in the negative.
Mr. McNulty stated that he would support the original interpretation of
the "BGW' line.
Ms Lavitt informed the Commission that the fire pit was below grade and
the planter box was above grade. She stated that there were 80 lots, and
several of the lots that had houses on them were built right to the lines.
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Dr. Brown recomiyanded that the Commission follow the original building
grading restriction line as am =a"rrebetiea o4-Z,5;k-A-kI�
Mr. Hinchliffe noted that the consensus of the Comiission was that the
line should not be violated, and the Commission had reached a consensus
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Mr. McNulty asked percentage OfV; �Toes were under struction. jA.
I -Is. Levitt replied that approximately 50% were under construction. egl_,Y_`"``�'
Mr. Hayward stated that they did not want to request a variance because
they did not want to move the "BGR!' line.
By motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Mr. McNulty, that the Planning
Commission adopt staff's interpretation of the allowable uses of the
"BGR!' area.and that a three-foot maxinm retaining wall be subject to
the Planning Cmnd_ssion's approval.
Mr. McTaggart believed that the three-foot retaining wall may be
inappropriate in some cases, and it would violate the position of the
"BGR!'. He felt that it would be inappropriate to state that *vthree-
foot wall would be acceptable at this time . #_ Ly o--T_k'L,
Roll call vote was as follows.
AYES. Hughes, McNulty, McTaggart, Hinchliffe
NOES: Brown
ABSENT: None
By motion of Mr. McNulty, seconded by Mr. Hughes, and unanimously carried,
that the Planning Commission approve the three-foot wall on the location,
as submitted.
RECESS At 9:30 p.m. a brief recess was called.
The meting was reconvened at 9.35 p.m.
with the same menbers present.
VARIANCE NO 84 Mr. Putrino stated that the applicant
Garage encroachment into rear was requesting approval of a garage
setback dealing with an irregularly-shaped lot,
6947 Alta Vista - Lot 31, with the front of the lot being the
Tract 32673 narrowest and the rear being the widest.
Landowner: Mr. & Mrs. Nori The majority of the lot is flat except
Marumoto, the rear 25 to 28 feet which slopes
Applicant: Joe Gonzales upward with a 50% slope which abutts
Hawthorne Boulevard. He noted that on
July 26, 1982, a "Stop Work" order was
issued to the property. He stated that staff recomwnded denial of
Variance No. 84 due to the negative justification of the four Findings
and recommended the adoption of Resolution No. 82.
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Public Hearing opened.
Joseph Gonzales, 438 Plymouth, los Angeles, applicant, stated that the
County required the retaining wall. He stated that the retaining wall
was approved by the County, but not by the City. He claimed that the
owner of the property was never informed that there was a walkway
easement. He noted that the owners have the only lot that has an
easement.
11k. Putrino stated that the City approved the wall subject to a 20 -foot
setback since the cut had already been made. However, the
20 -foot setback was not maintained.
Mr. Gonzales stated that the garage is built, and it is not obstructing
anyone's view. Mr. Gonzales noted that he was the recipient of the
"Stop Work" order; however, they ceased work only in that section which
was encroaching.
Pred Eaton, 20615 Cartier Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that he
lived across from the house in question. He noted concern for the
rear setback being only 14 feet, Code requiring a 20 -foot setback.
He stated that the garage in question stands directly in his line of
view to Catalina Island. He urged the Conmssion to investigate the
possibility of lowering the slope and garage roof as well as investigate
the issue of setbacks.
By motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Dr. Brawn, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
Mr. McNulty believed that the wall was not situated in the correct
location.
Mr. Hughes suggested allowing the applicant to reappear before the
Commission at their next meeting with revised plans. He wanted to
know the location of the corners, the location of the house, the
location of the wall, and the location of the garage.
By motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Dr. Brawn, and unanimously carried,
this item was continued and the applicant was instructed to bring back
a survey of the plot locating the lot corners and showing the actual
as -built distances to the corners of the structures, the location of the
retaining wall, and the location of the garage. The drawing is to be
signed and dated by the California Registered Land Surveyor. That
drawing is then to be presented to staff. Staff is to prepare a detailed
report chronologically listing the events that have taken place and
showing clearly which items will need a variance or other necessary
procedures for building the structures. The public hearing will be
reopened at the following meeting.
Mr. Hinchliffe advised the applicant to cease work on the garage.
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GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 13 Associate Planner Angus stated that the
ZONE CHANGE NO. 11 subject site was located adjacent to
Institutional to Residential Dauntless Drive between 32210 Helm Place
Southwest corner of Ladera Linda and a concrete stairway to the east.
site, 32201 Forrestal It is, and has always been, vacant. The
Landowner/Applicant: City of site consists of a pad area elevated
Rancho Palos Verdes above street level and the toe of a
buttressed slope bank to the rear. The
slope bank physically separates it from
the remainder of the developed site. Imimediately to the west of the subject
site and also across Dauntless are single family residences. This adjacent
area has a General Plan designation of residential 2-4 dwelling units per
acre, and is zoned RS -3. She stated that staff recommended holding a public
hearing and that the Planning Commission recommend approval of General Plan
Amendment No. 13 and Zone Change No. 11 to the City Council.
Public Hearing was opened.
Joe Gorman, 3675 Vigilance Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, representing the
Palos Verdes S. Homeowners Association, stated that they felt as though
the City were losing part of the park area. They did not object to the
change in use. They did note objection to further issuance of building
permits in the area.
Carol Midford, 32203 Helm Place, Rancho Palos Verdes, noted opposition
to the proposed zone change. She believed it premature. She
spoke of concern for the fire danger on the property. She stated that
the Fire Department had sent two 21 -day notices to the City.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McNulty, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McNulty, that the Planning
Com imission approve Planning Commission Resolution 82-11 which is a
recommendation to the City Council for a General Plan Amendment No. 13
and Zone Change No. 11. Also, that the Planning Camission include a
memo alerting the City Council of a fire hazard.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Brown, Hughes, McNulty, McTaggart, Hinchliffe
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hinchliffe advised of the right to appeal this decision to the
City Council within 15 calendar days.
ADJOURNMENT At 11:02 p.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Tuesday,
August 24, 1982, at 7.30 p.m.
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