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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
June 22, 1982
The meeting was called to order at 7:32 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Acting Chairman Hughes.
PRESENT: Brown, McNulty, Hughes
LATE ARRIVAL: McTaggart
ABSENT: Hinchliffe
Also present were Director of Planning Sharon Hightower, Associate Planner
Alice Bergquist Angus, and Assistant Planners Joe Gamble and Dino Putrino.
CONSENT CALENDAR Mr. Hughes proposed moving action on
the Consent Calendar to the end of
the meeting since there were only
three members present and Mr. McNulty had not been present during public
hearings on the maps. Dr. Brown seconded the motion and as there were no
objections, it was so ordered.
GRADING APPLICATION NO. 589 Mr. Putrino said at its may 11 meeting
Lot 8, Tract 32991; Vista del Mar the Commission discussed and then
Landowner: David Frid tabled this item to enable staff to
Applicant: John Vilicich prepare an accurate view analysis and
review plans to respond to Commission
questions. He said a panoramic photo-
graph was taken from lot 47 (directly north of the subject site) and that
it was determined that the range of view was approximately 200 degrees. He
said other considerations were that the driveway had been designed to avoid
drainage runoff problems and the side yard retaining wall, next to the pool,
had been redesigned to meet the maximum height for side yard retaining walls
and the required minimum five-foot high wall surrounding the pool. Staff
recommended approval since the proposed plan falls within the criteria of
the Code and is not in excess for the primary use of the lot. He said the
Commission should discuss the significance of the 6.2 percent view impair-
ment, since that percentage was small in comparison to the 200 -degree view,
and a larger portion of Catalina Island could be seen.
John Vilicich, 1622 South Gaffey, San Pedro, presented drawings and pano-
ramic view photographs and discussed the proposed project. He did not feel
there would be any significant view impairment.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the six percent view impairment
was not significant.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McNulty, and unanimously carried,
Grading Application No. 589 was approved.
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 81 Mr. Gamble said the request was for
5845 Crestridge Road the construction of an earth station
Landowner/Applicant: Church of for satellite reception and that the
Latter Day Saints public hearing had been noticed. He
said the proposed earth station would
be located on the west side of the
existing building on the subject site, and would consist of an antenna dish,
a low -noise amplifier, and a coaxial cable. He said when measured from
grade to the top of the antenna dish, the proposed height of the earth
station was approximately 13 feet. He said even though the applicant pro-
posed an eight -foot high wall, approximately one-third of the dish antenna
would be visible from Crestridge Road. He said in order to further mini-
mize the potential visual impact, staff offered alternatives, as listed in
the staff report. The proposed earth station would not radiate harmful
levels of microwave energy -and through proper screening practices the
antenna's visual impact could be minimized. Staff recommended that the
Commission review and discuss the alternatives and require that the appli-
cant submit a revised proposal based on the input from tonight's meeting.
He said the revised proposal should include all pertinent information re-
lated to the siting of an earth station.
Mr. McTaggart arrived at 7:50 p.m.
Burley Johnson, San Pedro, said in order to achieve communications between
the church headquarters in Salt Lake City, a program was initiated to in-
stall satellite equipment. He said the antenna consists of a 3.65 meter
dish, roughly 12 feet in diameter, secured to the ground with cement pillars.
He said there were several major constraints in choosing the location of the
dish such as distance from buildings, needed for a direct line of sight
from the satellite, etc. He said they wanted to screen the antenna from
view not only for aesthetic reasons but to prevent vandalism. He said they
proposed planting a row of mature juniper trees along the fence to obscure
the portion of the dish above the wall and that there would be little or
no view from the street. He said the angle was critical because of the
height of the roof and the need for direct line of sight. He said in addi-
tion to the problems of re -enforcing the walls, recessing the dish would
cause them to lose that direct line of sight. He also said he was told
that water would be damaging to this expensive equipment and that they
must keep it as dry as possible, preferably above ground.
Stanley Woster, San Pedro, presented drawings and technical information.
He said they proposed an eight -foot high wall and that it was 9.8 feet to
the top of the dish.
Mr. Hughes said the Commission needed to see a three dimensional analysis
to determine whether there is adequate clearance. He said the applicant
should indicate the exact placement of the antenna and what that view angle
is and the direction the antenna would be facing. He said they needed an
accurate representation of where the dish would be located and some view
analysis of where the dish is looking up over the roof and where it is
pointed. He said there was concern that it not be visible from the street
and that they would like to keep it below the surrounding fence if possible.
He said they needed to know where the dish could go if recessed and how far
it could be recessed.
Mr. Johnson described the proposed position of -the -antenna and said at that
angle at ground level they would have just the clearance necessary for the
West Star Four satellite. He said by lowering the dish they would lose
that clearance.
Mr. Hughes said he would like to see that demonstrated, with some care as
to how it is graphically presented, so that the Commission can make that
determination. He said the Commission wanted to deal with this application
properly and minimize the appearance of the antenna as much as possible.
Mr. McNulty pointed out that the information would also be helpful to the
applicant, that they should totally analyze this before establishing the
location, etc., so that re -adjustments will not be necessary.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McNulty, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was continued.
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Mr. Hughes said they needed to know where the satellite is and where the
sight lines are over the structure. He said the Commission would like more
analysis, a look at how they might accommodate removing the dish from physi-
cal view as well as planting shr.ubbbery.
The other Commissioners concurred.
Mr. McTaggart said he would like to see a wall that more closely conforms
to the City's Code, and that the wall could be located further away from
the antenna and provide more screening at a lower height.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 33206 Ms. Angus explained that this was a
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 31 request for private streets and security
San Pedro Hill - Crest Road devices and that the Commission should
Applicant: S & S Construction review the request and make a recom-
mendation to the City Council. She
said the Director of Public Works re-
viewed the request and indicated that he had no objections if the following
three conditions were met: 1) maintenance by the homeowners of the roads
and storm sewers is insured by the CC&Rs; 2) the roads are designed and
built to City standards; and 3) the roads are inspected by the City/County
for compliance with the standards. She said the proposal was basically the
same request that the Commission heard in May, 1979, at which time the
Commission recommended denial, primarily based upon the idea that this
viewing area should be publicly accessible. She said the General Plan
states that private streets can be allowed if certain conditions can be met,
as stated in the staff report, and that those conditions can be met. She
said the basic consideration is between allowing full public access to the
area versus maintenance costs to the City. Staff recommended that the
Commission request additional pedestrian access to the site. She said if
the applicant is willing to provide enough access so that the Commission
feels the view from the site will be accessible to the public, the Commission
should recommend approval of private roads to the City Council subject to
the conditions listed by the Director of Public Works.
Dr. Brown noted that this proposal had been denied twice, once in the
original proposal and again in 1979.
Ms. Angus said the request for private streets was denied by the Commis-
sion but never went to the City Council, as the applicant withdrew the last
request.
Mr. Hughes asked if there was any mechanism available to insure full access
to the public with private streets.
Director Hightower said the gate could be prohibited.
Mr. Hughes opened the meeting for public testimony.
Alan Cummins, Shapell Industries, said they did twice request private streets
on this tract but that since 1979 circumstances have changed which warrant
reconsideration of the request and that money is not readily available to
cities now. He said reduced costs to the City would allow the Public Works
Department to spend its money in other areas, thus saving the City money.
He said private streets would increase the marketability of these homes
because of the security. He said one of the prime aspects of the original
denial was that private streets would create an enclave. He believed that
having private streets and a video security system would increase the speed
of reporting problems and would also prevent people from throwing debris
over the area as they are doing now. He said they would like to perform a
study with the staff to provide additional access. He said they would like
to regulate the traffic through the community without obstructing pedestrian
access. He felt the request was reasonable and would be mutually beneficial.
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Mr. McNulty said there should be something in the CC&Rs guaranteeing public
access.-
Mr.
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Mr. Cummins said they would provide a public easement for the trail system
for pedestrian access.
In response to a question by Mr. Hughes, Director Hightower said the tract
currently provides public access to a look -out point but that the trail
does not circle the property.
Mr. Cummins said they proposed a guard station with video monitors and an
alarm system.
Dave Hasson, project engineer, said he was available to answer any technical
questions the Commission may have on the project.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, and unanimously carried,
the public testimony portion of -the meeting was closed.
Dr. Brown said there was nothing different from the previous proposal and he
felt the request was still unwarranted and did not agree with the applicant's
arguments.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, to recommend to the
City Council denial of the request for private streets.
Mr. McTaggart said if the applicant had presented a proposal which provided
benefit to the City he would have considered it, but that this was essen-
tially the same proposal. He felt access to what is one of the most prime
viewing areas of the City was an important asset to the City.
Mr. McNulty said it appeared there was no change from the previous proposal
and asked if they could allow additional time for the applicant to work on
this as he requested.
Mr. McTaggart did not feel the City staff should be put in the position of
being the designers.
Mr. McNulty declared that as an attorney, he had been involved with a suit
against this particular company.
Mr. Hughes said to his knowledge the City Council has not changed its
policy of not creating private roads. He said there were a number of
private communities existing in the City and that they create many problems.
He said the creation of private enclaves was not in the best interests of
the City and that he could not see any public benefit with closing those
streets. He said street maintenance becomes a problem with private roads
because it is a financial burden to those few homeowners. He did not feel
pedestrian access to this site was sufficient as the area is one of the
prime viewing areas of the City and should be available to the public.
Roll call vote on the above motion recommending to the City Council denial
of the request was as -follows:
AYES: Brown, McNulty, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: Hinchliffe
CONSENT CALENDAR By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by
Mr. Hughes, the Consent Calendar was
unanimously passed, thereby 1) approv-
ing the minutes of the meeting of June 8, 1982; 2) approving Tentative
Parcel Map No. 14570 with the adoption of Resolution No. 82-14; and 3)
recommending to the City Council approval of Tentative Tract Map No. 32322.
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COMMISSION REPORTS Mr. Hughes suggested postponing the
election of Vice -Chairman until Por.
Hinchliffe, the new Commission Chair-
man, is present. The other Commissioners concurred.
ADJOURNMENT
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At 8:58 p.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Tuesday,
July 13, 1982, at 7:30 p.m.
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