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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
May 11, 1982
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman Hughes.
PRESENT: Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
ABSENT: Baer
Also present were Director of Planning Sharon W. Hightower, Associate Plan-
ner Ann Negendank, and Assistant Planners Joseph Gamble and Dino Putrino.
CONSENT CALENDAR
the minutes of the meeting of April
By motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by
Dr. Brown, the Consent Calendar was
unanimously passed, thereby approving
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 26 REVISION Mr. Gamble reviewed the requested re -
30850 Hawthorne Boulevard vision to amend condition 12. He said
Landowner: Salvation Army the proposed changes would allow the
Applicant: Peninsula Racquet Club lighting of tennis courts 1 through 12
until 10:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday
and until 9:00 p.m. on Sunday. He said
at the March 23 Commission meeting the matter was continued to allow staff
to work out a proposal with the applicant for a trial period. He reported
on the three alternatives. Alternative A would reduce thirty light hours on
Monday, extend the lighting on the north courts to 10:00 p.m. and to 9:00
p.m. on the south courts on Friday, and extend both the north and south court
hours to 9:00 p.m. on Saturdays. Alternative B would reduce thirty light
hours on Monday, extend the lighting on the north and south,courts to 10:00
p.m. on Fridays, and extend both the north and south court hours to 8:30 p.m.
on Saturdays. Alternative C would reduce thirty light hours on Monday, ex-
tend the lighting on the north and south courts to 10:00 p.m. on Friday, and
extend the north court hours to 9:30 p.m. on Saturdays. Staff recommended
adoption of Alternative A since it has the least amount of total light hours
past 9:00 p.m.
In response to a Commission question, Mr. Gamble said staff had not yet re-
viewed the letter which was sent to the Commission by the applicant.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was re -opened.
Russell Schweiger, 30828 Via La Cresta, informed the Commission that he had
sent a letter to staff expressing the concerns of the homeowners in the
vicinity of the lighted courts. He felt it would be unfair to make any kind
of determination by using only six courts a night per week and that the home-
owners would have a better chance of determining the effects if the test
period is based on the full usage, as requested by the applicant. He said
their main concerns were view degradation and noise, although the final
judgement should be based on court utilization and view degradation. He
recommended that the six-month trial period begin on July 1, 1982.
In response to Commission questions, Mr. Schweiger said the utilization sub-
ject had not been discussed with the court owners. He explained that if only
one or two nights are judged it would not give the homeowners an accurate
idea of what it would be like to live with the project. He expressed concern
that once the lighting is approved it would set a precedence.
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Van Vanesian, 30810 Via La Cresta, said the noise and lighting were severe
nuisances. He said the noise is loud enough to awaken someone or prevent
sleep, that it was like a party going on. He suggested that the courts to
be lit for longer hours be covered in canvas to mitigate the effects of
noise and light.
Dr. Brown suggested changing the lighting so as not to be so harsh and asked
if modifications of the lighting could be included during the six-month
trial period.
Mr. Hughes proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Brown, to adopt Alternative A.
Commission discussion ensued.
Mr. Hinchliffe suggested that a new proposal be submitted to include the
changes requested, including the lighting to be changed as recommended by
Dr. Brown.
After further discussion, a new alternative was reached, and the above
motion and second were withdrawn.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, to approve the
new alternative, thus deleting all lighting of the courts on Monday, extend-
ing the hours of lighting on the north courts only to 10:00 p.m. Tuesday
through Friday, extending the lighting on the north courts only by one hour
on Saturday, with the lighting on Sunday to remain the same, for a trial
period of six months, to begin on July 1 and run through December 31. The
Commission further directed that lighting shields be added on three of the
southern courts during the test period so that a judgement could be made as
to their benefits, and that there be no change in club policy during the test
period to ensure an accurate comparison.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart
NOES: Hughes
ABSENT: Baer
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 14570 Ms. Negendank reported on the staff
5 Rockinghorse Road findings and alternatives to the re -
Landowner: Julius & Martha Korta quest for a minor exception permit for
Applicant: South Bay Engineering a substandard lot depth and the feasi-
bility of a common access for this and
the adjacent property. Alternative A
is the original submittal and provides a 29-foot_setbdck_for-the.existing
house and a 100 -foot lot depth for Lot 2. It requires a minor exception
permit for 20 feet of the lot depth and the removal of the retaining wall.
Alternative B reduces the setback for Lot 1 to the minimum 20 feet and re-
sults in a lot depth of 109 feet. It requires a minor exception permit for
11 feet of lot depth and probably the removal of the retaining wall. Alter-
native C meets the setback and lot depth requirements by using an interpreta-
tion of Section 17.40.020, different from the one used by staff. She said
staff would present clarifying language with the next Code amendment for the
wording that defines lot depth since it currently is not as clear as it could
be.
Mr. McTaggart stated that there should be more control over the lot changes
allowed by a minor exception permit.
Public hearing was re -opened.
Ron McAlpin, 304 Tejon Place, Palos Verdes Estates, representing South Bay
Engineering, discussed the original project and alternatives and said he
would accept any of the three proposals. In response to a Commission ques-
tion, he said Alternative C moves the houses closer together. He requested
that the shared driveway not be made a condition of approval, that more
flexible wording be used.
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In response to Commission questions, Ms. Negendank said all three proposals
meet the requirements for lot area square footage.
By motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried, the
public hearing was closed.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Brown, to conceptually
approve Alternative B, pending geology review.
Roll call vote was as follows:
RECESS
AYES: Brown, Hinchliffe, Hughes
NOES: McTaggart
ABSENT: Baer
At 8:58 p.m. a brief recess was called.
The meeting reconvened at 9:10 p.m.
with the same members present.
GRADING APPLICATION NO. 589 Mr. Putrino said the proposed plan was
Lot 8, Tract 32991, Vista Del Mar for grading, houseprint, and driveway
Applicant: John Vi.licich location which differ from the approved
Landowner: David Frid plan for this lot. He said the proposed
highest grade elevation would exceed the
approved highest grade elevation by four
feet. He said although the proposed elevation is higher than the approved
height, the envelope above existing grade would be maintained. He said the
proposed plan as well as the approved plan may create a view impairment to
the northerly adjacent lot, of less than 20 percent maximum. Staff recom-
mended approval since the proposed plan falls within the criteria of the Code
and is not in excess for the primary use of the lot.
Mr. McTaggart had several questions and concerns regarding how the 20 -percent
view obstruction determination was obtained and the area in which the lot
was measured to obtain minimum height for obstruction.
The matter was tabled to follow the next agenda item in order to give staff
the opportunity to review the plans again and respond to Mr. McTaggart"s
questions.
VARIANCE NO. 78
4000 Lorraine Road
Applicant: Frank Politeo
Landowner: Roy Smith
Based on the findings as presented
approval of the variance permitting
to a maximum height of 20 feet.
Mr. Gamble briefly described the pro-
posed request for a storage addition
which would increase the square footage
of an existing detached garage, noting
that 75 percent of the proposed addition
would cantilever over a terraced bank.
in the staff report, staff recommended
the construction of a storage addition
Roy Smith, 4000 Lorraine Road, owner of the property, addressed the Commission
asking for approval of the variance.
Paul Berglund, 6309 Via Ciega, presented pictures to the Commission and
stated that no view obstruction would occur.
By motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, to adopt Resolution
No. 82-8, thereby approving Variance No. 78 based on the findings as stated
in the draft resolution.
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Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: Baer
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
GRADING APPLICATION NO. 589 This item was re -opened and Mr. Putrino
reported an error in the staff report
whereby the lot was described as a down-
sloping lot and should have been reported as an up-sloping lot.
John Vilicich, the applicant, described the property and the means by which
he measured the height of the structure.
Mr. McTaggart expressed his concern that the height of the proposed structure
was not measured from the proper position on the grade.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hughes, to approve Grading
Application No. 589.
Mr. McTaggart expressed concern regarding the position of the driveway and
the grade on which the pool will be installed. He also questioned the
drainage capabilities and the number of retaining walls.
Mr. Putrino said the pool was on less than a 35 -percent grade and that there
were three continuous retaining walls.
The above motion failed by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Hinchliffe, Hughes
NOES: Brown, McTaggart
ABSENT: Baer
By motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the item was tabled to enable staff to prepare an accurate view analysis.
VARIANCE NO. 79 Mr. Putrino described the subject deck
2408 Rue Le Charlene indicating that it had already been
Applicant/Landowner: Akemon constructed and is located in the south-
east corner of the subject property
abutting the east side and rear property
lines. He said the height of the deck was approximately 20 feet 72 inches.
He said the deck structure had been constructed on a grade of approximately
12:1 slope, or 66 percent. Staff recommendeddenial_of the variance due t - o
the negative justification of the four _-required--flndings,-'d's�-stat-e(i-ln-_the
staff report.
Public hearing was opened.
Anthony Vulin, 624 W. 9th Street, #201, San Pedro, attorney for Mr. and Mrs.
Califano, neighbors of the property, requested denial of the variance due
to the fact that the landowners did not build it to Code and did not apply
for proper permits.
Jack Magnus, 4311 Wilshire, Los Angeles, representing the landowners, stated
that he was aware that there were two violations, but that the structure did
not interfere with anyone's view.
By motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
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Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, to adopt Resolution
No. 82-9,' thereby denying Variance No. 79 based on the inability of the
Commission to make the required findings, as stated in the draft resolution.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: Baer
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
TRAIL STANDARDS STUDY Mr. Gamble presented the proposed
Trail Standards Study to the Commission,
saying that the Study would serve as a
framework for continuing planning by providing a graphic representation of
design and construction standards for trails and paths in the City. Staff
recommended that the Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of
the Trail Standards Study.
By motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the Commission recommended to the City Council adoption of the proposed
Trail Standards Study.
COMMISSION REPORTS
existing wording was too vague.
Mr. McTaggart asked what was needed to
change the wording in the Code for
minor exception permit, as he felt the
The Commission requested a joint meeting with the City Council, perhaps
June 29, 1982.
ADJOURNMENT
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At 11:15 p.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Tuesday,
May 25, 1982, at 7:30 p.m.
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