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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Ad3ourned Meeting
November 10, 1981
The meeting was called to order at 7:36 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman Hughes.
PRESENT: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
ABSENT: None
Also present were Director of Planning Sharon Hightower, and Associate
Planners Richard Thompson and Sandra Massa Lavitt.
COMMUNICATIONS Mr. Thompson noted that the two communi-
cations distributed to the Commission
tonight both related to Tract No. 40640
which was the first public hearing on the agenda. He said one was submitted
by Dr. Baer and the other by a concerned resident.
Dr. Baer noted thatA061P—app i e lse received a copy ofA4*-k-.,w communicationy
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CONSENT CALENDAR Dr. Baer pulled the minutes of October
27, 1981 and proposed amending page 2,
paragraph 7, by adding to the end of
the first sentence that the applicant "did not show-s4=;,�ftines or building
envelopes on the seaward side of the lots, nor did he show white water views."
It was the consensus of the Commission that the minutes as presented accur-
ately reflected what was presented and did not need to state what was not
presented.
Dr. Baer proposed amending page 3, paragraph 10, to read.as follows: "Charles
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Forbes...... near ocean view from a downward slanting inline and said......
on the downhill side and the solid wall effect of the buildings on the seaward
side and felt......"
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, the Consent Calendar was
unanimously passed, thereby approving the minutes of the meeting of October
27, 1981, with the above -stated amendments to paragraph 10 of page 3.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 40640 Mr. Thompson said at the last meeting
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 68 the Commission approved the concept de -
Portion of Coastal Subregion 1, sign subject to a more detailed examina-
adjacent to Palos Verdes Estates tion by staff and with the elimination
Landowner: M. Berry, Trustee of one of the two tennis courts. He
Applicant: Burrell, Ltd. said by eliminating one of the courts,
a 5 to 10 foot retaining wall was also
eliminated. He said a 20 -foot wide
access easement to lots 1 and 2 over the adjacent Kildiszew lot was dis-
covered and added to the map. He said the proposal called for 10 one-story
homes, 9 two-story homes (7 of which are on the bluff), and 6 split-level
homes. He said the applicant was proposing a 7 -foot retaining wall in order
to provide access. Staff recommended that the Commission close the public
hearing, approve the conditional use permit, and recommend that the Council
approve the tentative tract map per the draft resolutions and conditions.
He suggested the following changes: conditional use permit condition 10,
add at the end that "chain link fences would not be permitted"; re tentative
tract map condition 45, the Director of Parks & Recreation preferred the fee
rather than land dedication. He referred to the communication from the ap-
plicant responding to the staff report and conditions.
In response to a question by Mr. McTaggart, Mr. Thompson said he agreed
with the applicant's suggestioii to change coastal setback "line" to "zone"
because it was more consistent with the wording throughout the conditions
of approval. He said development would not be allowed seaward of the line.
The Commission felt that changing the wording raised the question of whether
development could take place within the zone itself.
In response to a question by Mr. Hinchliffe, Mr. Thompson said it would be
more attractive to have the same type of fencing constructed at the same
time and that the applicant was proposing that if the property owner desired
fencing that it be the same. Re the safety fence, Mr. Thompson said it would
require the written approval of the Director of Planning and would only be
granted if it was deemed to be necessary for safety reasons.
Mr. Hughes asked what mechanism of enforcement would be used to make sure
that the watercourse and trail were adequately maintained.
Mr. Thompson said the CC&Rs would be the mechanism with the City acting as
an enforcing party. In response to further questions by Mr. Hughes, Mr.
Thompson said the fence would be built on the property line and that the
developer would also provide a walkway and bikeway which the City would
maintain.
Mr. Hughes said since tentative approval had been given on the project, the
Commission should concentrate on the conditions of approval this evening.
Re Dr. Baer's memo, he said if it was the consensus of the Commission that
there were items which had not been adequately addressed that the Commission
should discuss them.
Dr. Baer discussed his geology concernoX,6(
Mr. Hinchliffe said the whole coastline was geologically reviewed and based
on that the Coastal Setback Zones were established. He said this area was
deemed acceptable for development. I
Mr. Thompson said geology was addressed in the environmental impact report.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the geology issue had been ade-
quately and thoroughly addressed.
After further discussion, it was the consensus of the Commission that all
of the items cited in Dr. Baer's memo had been adequately and appropriately
addressed.
Re views, Dr. Baer did not feel it was necessary to allow all structures to
reach the 16 -foot height limit since the project was a residential planned
development.
Mr. Hughes asked if the conditions of a conditional use permit could limit
the height below what the Code allows.
Director Hightower said theoretically it was possible, but that the City
Attorney has advised against it, stating previously that the Codes should
be uniformly applied City-wide.
Public hearing was opened.
Tim Burrell, 4038 Exultant Drive, agreed there was no reason to change the
term coastal setback line to zone. Re fencing, he said there was no ques-
tion about the type of fence, that the only issue was whether people would
have the option of having a fence or not. Re sidewalks, he preferred it to
be more compatible with the more rural look of the Peninsula, without side-
walks, but that if they were necessary he agreed to staff's suggestion of
putting them on one side only. Re land dedication or fees, he felt the
options should be kept open and suggested wording the condition to say that
the "subdivider shall offer for dedication..."
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Constance Shea, 3400 Palos Verdes Drive West, expressed concern about the
geology and split level structures in front of her home.
Charles Forbes, 7343 Via Lorado, expressed concern about the geology, pre-
scriptive rights, and the proposed height of the structures.
Eleanore Wiedmann, 30032 Palos Verdes Drive gest, expressed concern about
the public view, the view from the homes on Via Lorado,' and two-story
structures.
Robert M. Brockett, 30319 Palos Verdes Drive West, expressed concern about
two-story structures and compatibility.
Dick Kildiszew, 1736 Chelsea Road, Palos Verdes Estates, expressed concern
about drainage, the bluff access easement, and the location of the safety
fence.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion on the conditional use permit conditions ensued. It
was the consensus of the Commission to have additional controls placed on
the landscaping or that the landscape plan be brought back to the Planning
Commission for approval.
Mr. Hughes directed staff to write a condition with some reasonableness to
it that could be measured and hopefully enforced.
Mr. Thompson said the applicant suggested the following wording: "A land-
scape master plan shall be submitted by the applicant for review and approval
by the Planning Commission."
Dr. Baer suggested adding condition 3.G. to permit existing residents the
option of joining the Homeowners Association if they so desire.
Re the tract map conditions, the Commission added to 19.b. the words "or
wider."
It was the consensus of the Commission to delete condition 19.c. requiring
sidewalks.
RECESS
At 10:25 p.m. a brief recess was called.
The meeting reconvened at 10:36 p.m.
with the same members present.
It was the consensus of the Commission to change tract map condition 27 to
read "...scenic easement over the face of the bluff to the City...", and to
add to condition 38 "...and will ensure that only natural appearing grades
will be created."; to add to conditional use permit condition 3.E. "Side
yard setbacks shall conform to the City's development standards and the
front and rear yard setbacks shall conform to the approved tentative tract
map.", to add condition 13 to read "Prior to recording the final map, a
landscape master plan shall be submitted by the applicant for review and
approval by the Planning Commission. The approved landscape plan shall be
included in the approved CC&Rs.", and to add condition 3.G. "Residents con-
tiguous to the site will be permitted and encouraged to loin the Homeowners
Association."
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Brown, to adopt Resolution
No. 81-57, thereby approving Conditional Use Permit No. 68 subject to the
conditions of Exhibit "A", as amended this evening.
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Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTagqaIrt, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, to recommend to
the City Council approval of Tentative Tract Map No. 40640 with the map as
amended this evening and subject to the conditions of Exhibit "A" of the
draft resolution as amended this evening.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes noted that the public hearing on the tentative tract map would
be held at the first City Council meeting in December.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77 Mr. Thompson said the request was for
28503 Highridge Road a 120 -foot antenna pole to hold a low
Landowner: Don C. Wallace power television transmitting antenna,
Applicant: Richard C. Blum to be located on a 24 -acre site con-
taining 61 existing poles. He de-
scribed the zoning, the site location,
and the surrounding area. Staff recommended approval of the project sub-
ject to the conditions listed in Exhibit "A" of the draft resolution.
Public hearing was opened.
Richard Blum, P. 0. Box 2626, Palos Verdes Peninsula, said he agreed with
the staff findings and proposed conditions. He explained that low power
television was a new service with perhaps a 20 -mile radius that would go out
on one of the UHF channels.
Mr. Hughes said he understood that there were only two others of this type
in the country and that they were under experiment. He said there were no
standards as yet and felt perhaps this application was premature.
Mr. McTaggart asked if the applicant would oppose a condition which held
the City harmless for any expense if at some future date the applicant was
required by the FCC to use a different type or size antenna which the City
did not permit.
Mr. Blum said he would agree to that condition.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
In response to a question by Mr. Hinchliffe, Director Hightower said the
Commission could make the conditional use permit conditional upon the ap-
proval by the FCC, but that there was a time limit involved for obtaining
permits once the conditional use permit is approved.
Dr. Brown said this antenna was different than the others on the site,
and he felt the application was premature and was opposed to granting it.
Mr. Hughes agreed that operationally it was different but felt that techni-
cally they could deal with the differences. He felt this City had probably
the best radio location in all of the South Bay area. He felt there was a
much broader opportunity before the Commission than simply granting an an-
tenna. He said when the FCC announced its intent to use the UHF spectrum
more fully with this experiment, there was a flood of applications. He
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said the matter was still being studied. He felt the City should look at
its own controls and whether it is desirous to have local programming
available for the City. He said if the permit is granted the Commission
should make sure that until a station license is granted there is no con-
struction.
Mr. Blum agreed to that condition.
Dr. Brown suggested that the City Attorney be apprised of this and that
the matter be tabled until then because of the Commission's concern with
regard to the franchise with Times Mirror Cablevision, etc.
Dr. Baer requested that the applicant also supply more information.
Mr. Blum said they could provide the City air time. He said he could not
proceed with the FCC until a location for the antenna is selected.
On motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, and unanimously carried,
the item was tabled to allow staff the opportunity to do some more investi-
gation and the applicant the opportunity to submit further information.
VARIANCE NO. 73 Ms. Lavitt reviewed the background of
6831 Alta Vista the request and said the project was
Landowner: C. K. Ho approved in January of 1980 with nota -
Applicant: Young & Associates tions on the plan showing what the
correct measurements were to be, to be
checked out by the County, but that
the structure was built with the rear of the structure exceeding the 30 -foot
height limit by 5 feet. She said final inspection occurred on October 10,
1981 and that the residence was currently occupied. She said the error was
not detected until the construction was nearly completed. Staff recommended
that the variance be approved since an administrative error did occur in the
issuance of permits for the house. Staff further recommended that the filing
fee be waived.
Public hearing was opened. No one wished to speak on the matter.
On motion of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, to adopt Resolu-
tion No. 81-58, thereby approving Variance No. 73 based on administrative
error; and further directed that the filing fee be waived.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 37 AMENDMENT Ms. Lavitt said the request was to
6610 Palos Verdes Drive South allow the parking lot ad3acent to
Applicant/Landowner: Hanna- Palos Verdes Drive South to be tempor-
Barbera's Marineland ary instead of permanent and to, there-
fore, lessen the landscaping require-
ments because the cost of the land-
scaping is more than the applicant could afford, the pro3ected need for
parking was overestimated since the actual attendance levels fell short of
previously projected levels, and the increase in bus ridership has further
lessened the number of parking spaces needed. She said the Code does not
establish a formula for calculating the appropriate number of parking
spaces for a recreational,facility like this. She said according to the
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applicant, the lot has only been used on 19 to 25 days each year since
January of 1979 and, therefore, a temporary lot seems more appropriate at
this time. She said the Code permits lessening the landscaping standards
for a temporary lot and allows for temporary lot permits to be used and
renewed on an annual basis to cover a period not to exceed three years.
Staff felt that a year to year review in addition to the three year time
limit would ensure that the lot remains as long as but no longer than is
necessary. She reviewed appropriate heights for the vegetation at the
proposed locations, as determined by staff. Staff recommended approval
of the request subject to the conditions contained in Exhibit "A" of the
draft resolution.
Richard Smith, P. 0. Box 927, answered questions of the Commission. He
said he was comfortable with the staff recommendation concerning landscap-
ing.
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Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, to approve the
amendment as recommended by staff with a change to condition 2, adding to
that condition that the landscaping be completed within 90 days.
Mr. Smith said it would be done prior to December 31 of this year.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Baer, to adopt Resolution No.
81-59, thereby approving the amendment to Conditional Use Pemrit No. 37,
subject to the conditions contained in Exhibit "A", as amended above.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
STAFF REPORTS Director Hightower introduced Joe
Gamble, the recently hired Assistant
Planner, to the Commissioners. She
said he had a degree in landscape architecture.
COMMISSION REPORTS Dr. Brown noted that the input from
Reverend Cummings stated that the
Canterbury Gardens retirement facility
did not receive its license as a skilled nursing facility.
Director Hightower noted, however, that the facility would still be con-
structed to meet those standards.
ADJOURNMENT
At 12:30 a.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Tuesday,
November 24, 1981, at 7:30 p.m.
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