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City df Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
June 9, 1981
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman Hughes.
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ABSENT:
Also present were
Richard Thompson,
Bergquist Angus.
COMMUNICATIONS
Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
None
Director of Planning Sharon Hightower, Associate Planner
and Assistant Planners Sandra Massa Lavitt and Alice
tion for General Plan Amendment No.
Director Hightower said she received
a letter from Palos Verdes Properties
requesting to withdraw their applica-
7.
The Commission accepted said request and so advised any members of the
audience that may have been present to speak on the matter.
On motion of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the Commission determined to not consider any agenda items that are not
underway by 11:00 p.m. this evening; any items not heard tonight to be con-
sidered at the next regular meeting.
HEIGHT VARIATION NO. 170 APPEAL Ms. Lavitt said the item was continued
6913 Vallon Drive from the April 28 meeting, at which
Appellant/Landowner: J. Nunn time the applicant agreed to consider
the possiblity of redesigning the roof
structure to lessen the impact of view
obstruction to the adjacent neighbors. She said the change in roof design,
from gable to hip, decreased the overall height of the addition in the view
critical area, but that there still remained some view obstruction of Cata-
lina Island at its northerly end. She'referred to the view analysis of
the project showing a comparis6n of the orginal plan and the revision.
Staff recommended that the Commission take further testimony, and since
there is no longer substantial view obstruction, that the Commission ap-
prove the appeal, thereby permitted the addition to be constructed as cur-
rently proposed.
John Nunn, 6913 Vallon Drive, presented an exhibit to the Commission, an
overlay showing the difference between the hip roof and the gable roof.
He said he has had discussions with the Cayleys on the matter, and he hoped
the revision would alleviate the previous difficulties.
Maureen Nunn, 6913 Vallon Drive, said they have done everything possible
to alleviate any substantial view obstruction. She said they have been
working with an architect and have designed a whole new roof which would
not cause substantial view obstruction.
Paul Cayley, 6905 Vallon Drive, distributed information to the Commission
and staff. He said the pictures displayed by staff were misleading be-
cause they were selected from positions where the view is not too evident.
He said the entire portion north of the isthmus would be lost with a gable
roof and that more than half would be lost with a hip roof. He presented
exhibits showing a sketch of the island and where each roof would cut
across. He said they would lose 91 percent of the view with the old design
and 48 percent with the new design. He felt the impairment was very
significant. He did not feel alternatives to the rear of the house were
seriously considered. He responded to several Commission questions re:
his photographs, such as where they were taken from, the type film used,
etc.
Irene Cayley, 6905 Vallon Drive, submitted to the Commission six letters
in opposition from neighbors, and a petition in opposition containing
about 68 signatures of residents in the neighborhood. She read excerpts
from the General Plan, various policies concerning view preservation and
also read from the height variation section of the Development Code. She
said the applicant was seeking to acquire a lovely unobstructed view that
she now enjoys. She said because they need more room, she was being asked
to sacrifice. She submitted her written testimony to the Commission.
Susan Parandeh, 6905 Vallon Drive, said they could see Catalina Island
from anywhere in the living room and that the addition would destroy that
view.
Laura Cayley, 6905 Vallon Drive, said with the addition they would see
only a wall and lose their existing view. She felt the applicant had other
places to build and did not feel it would be reals.ona.ble'to grant the appeal.
Dr. Brown did not feel the addition was designed and situated to minimize
view obstruction. He felt the same amount of square footage could be
placed elsewhere on the lot without the need for a height variation. He
felt there was still a significant view impairment, although it was less
than what was initially proposed.
Dr. Baer concurred and said what the Cayleys lose, the Nunns would gain.
Mr. McTaggart asked if staff felt the opportunity to develop in some other
area on the property had been adequately addressed.
Mrs. Lavitt-said'it had notbeen adequately ,addressed and was a possibility.
Mr. McTaggart did not feel that the view impairment was significant btit-_
said it would be difficult to make all of the findings since staff felt
it was possible -to -build the addition somewhere else.
Mr. Hinchliffe said based on the information received he did not feel the
revised addition represented a significant view obstruction. He agreed
that the issue of developing somewhere else on the lot should be resolved.
Dr. Brown asked for clarification from staff on placing the addition -at
the rear of the structure.
Ms. Lavitt said the square footage proposed could be accomplished at the
rear of the structure without violation of any Codes.
Mr. Hughes did not feel the Commission should be considering whether the
addition could be built on the rear of the lot at this point, but instead
should determine whether or not there is view impairment. He said a deci-
sion must be made based on the application for this height variation.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, to deny the appeal
of Height Variation No. 170, thereby upholding staff's denial of the
application, based on the Commission's determination that the proposed
structure was not designed and situated in such a manner as to minimize
view obstruction and there was significant view impairment.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, Hughes
NOES: McTaggart
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
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VARIANCE NO. 67 Ms. Angus said the Commiss'ibn- at its -
6345 Via Colinita meeting of May 12 directed the appli-
Applicant: G. Cigliano, Trustee cant to work with staff and consider
alternatives. She said the -applicant
met with staff and expressed a willing-
ness to cut the block wall down to 42 inches and step the fence/wall com-
bination to comply with the requirements to apply for a minor exception
permit. She said, however, the applicant did not believe he -could cut the
pilasters and gates to the six-foot height. Staff recommended that the
Commission consider the request for a variance only for the pilasters and
gates that exceed six feet. Staff felt if the wall was lowered as sug-
gested the problem with visibility would be minimized. As such, staff
could make the required findings for the requested variance.
In response to Commission questions, Ms. Angus said there was no electrical
permit but that the applicant called the County and intends to get the
proper permit. She said the County will not issue the permit until the
City gives approval for the project.
Mr. McTaggart said they should find out if the electrical work meets the
current Code.
Gerald Cigliano, 6345 Via Colinita, discussed the dramatic slope that the
lot takes. He said any other part of the street is level other than the
curving part. He said they_were-willinq-to do whatever is necessary con-
cerning the electrical and that the.Commission could condition the variance
accordingly if desired.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, and unanimously
carried, the public hearing was closed.
Mr. McTaggart saiZ�'the proposal to rectify the situation shows a willing-
ness of the part of the applicant to work with the City. He felt they
should condition the variance to require that the lights conform to the
current City codes. He felt it was not the -applicant's fault that the
error occurred.
Dr. Brown said the public testimony at the last meeting was that this is
an unusual lot with the curving street and the slope. He felt there
were unusual circumstances in this case.
The Commission was able to make finding A., concerning exceptional cir-
cumstances, since this is an unusual situation because of the horseshoe
shape of the lot and the variation of the grade.
The Commission was able to make finding B., concerning the preservation
of a propoerty right, because of A. above, and that such property rigFht,
exists in the same zoning district.
The Commission concurred with staff's findings for C. and D.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously
carried, the Commission approved Variance No. 67 and directed staff to
prepare a resolution based on the above findings and discussion.
GRADING APPLICATION NO. 536
Ms. Angus said at the last meeting the
6853 Alta Vista Drive
applicant was directed to bring back
Landowner: Mr. & Mrs. L. Gintz
plans of the court recessed to an ele-
Applicant: Tom Milostan
vation of 690.75 feet with the retain-
ing wall opposite the rear property
line side divided into two walls. She
said due to the location of a sewer
pipe the lowest elevation the court
could be placed is 695.25 feet. She said the applicant has submitted
scheme #4 showing this elevation.
She said with this scheme a six-foot
fence would result in a wall/fence
combination of 10.5 feet and a ten -
foot fence would result in a combined height of 14.5 feet. She said
in light of the constraints of the
sewer pipe, which runs across the
slope at a depth of six feet and must be covered by a minimum of four
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feet, staff suggested that the Commission discuss scheme 44 and decide
whether it is acceptable in terms of the grading. o
In response to Commission questions, Ms. Angus said it was a sanitary sewer.
She said the applicant checked with the County and came up with the
original height, that the County would require something on the deed which
would permit them to tear up the tennis court if it becomes necessary to
get to the sewer.
Mr. McTaggart said it was not common practice to allow anyone to build
over a sanitary sewer.
Lee Gintz, 6769 Alta Vista Drive, apologized to the Commission for not
considering the depth of the pipe before. He said he checked with the
County Engineer and a four -foot cover is required. He said they would
sign a document accepting responsibility if it is necessary to tear up the
court to repair the pipe.
Mr. Hughes said due to the turn of events, the Commission should discuss
again whether or' not this use is appropriate for the site.
Mr. McTaggart was concerned about the effect the elevation may have on
adjoining properties. He said the -Commission had previously expressed
concern about views. He was further concerned about the structure bei g -
placed over a sewer.
Pts. Angus referred to one of the photographs showing where the fence line
would be.
Dr. Brown noted that there was some impairment at 690feetand _
more at 695 feet. He was uncomfortable about shoehorning the project in.
He said the Commission previously reached the consensus that the use was
appropriate if certain concerns were met, but that now the court is being
raised again and being placed over a sewer. He said his concerns have
nat been relieved.
Dr. Baer said the court was raised five feet but that with a six-foot
fence it might not be impactive. He did not feel a tennis court was
out of place next to a golf course. He said apparently the applicant has
made arrangements with the County regarding the sewer.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and carried with Dr.
Baer dissenting, the Commission denied Grading Application No. 536.
Mr. Hughes advised of the right of appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
VARIANCE NO. 65 Ms. Angus said at the last meeting the
4170 Maritime Road Commission directed staff to prepare a
Applicant/Landowner: Shultz resolution to approve the variance for
the side yard deck and rear yard deck.
She said staff was also directed to
contact Palos Verdes Properties re: the violation that exists on their
property. She said a letter was sent to Palos Verdes Properties and she
had been in_ touch with Monte Brower, who was tr_y-irig to contact -their -lawyer
re: what action should be taken. She said Section 1 of the resolution
deals with the side yard deck and wall, and Sections 2,3,4, and 5 deal
with the rear yard deck.
Mr. McTaggart was concerned about the construction that took place on
someone else's property. He said the contractor was obliged to know what
was legal, and he requested staff to refer the matter to the State Con-
tractor's License Board.
Dr. Brown proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. McTaggart, to adopt Resolution
No. 81-45, thereby approving Variance No. 65 for the side property line
wall, side deck, and rear yard deck.
Roll call vote was as follows:
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AYES: Baer, Brown, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Hinchliffe
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
VARIANCE NO. 69
Ms. Angus said the request was for a
26 Sea Cove Drive
new residence to encroach into the
Applicant: George Sweeney
Coastal Zone category 2 and Coastal
Landowner: Mr. & Mrs. C. Lopez
Zone Setback, and a wall/fence com-
bination to exceed 42 inches in the
front setback to accommodate a pro-
posed tennis court at the front of
the lot. She reviewed the four re-
quired findings and staff responses
as listed in the staff report. Re:
findings C. and D. for the encroachment, she said the applicant has sub-
mitted a geology report which states
that the area is stable to within
15 feet of the toe of the slope. Based
upon that finding, if the County
Engineer concurs, staff could make
those findings. Staff recommended
approval of the variance subject to
approval by the County Engineer of
the geology report.
In response to Commission questions, Ms. Angus referred to an overlay
which was on display showing similar encroachments in the area. She
said a house without a tennis court could be built on the lot without
encroachment into the Coastal Setback. She said, however, tha the appli-
cant has indicated even without the tennis court, he would want the -house
to encroach in order to obtain a view. She noted that the current con-
figuration of the house was to accommodate the tennis court. She said
she received the geology report this afternoon and that there was no time
to review it.
Public hearing was opened.
George Sweeney, architect, 75 Malaga Cove Plaza, Palos Verdes Estates,
presented two exhibits to the Commission, one of which was an aerial
photograph of the area. He discussed the geology report. He said the
concern of the landowner was that he be able to enjoy the ocean view.
He felt the proposal would be a plus for the community. He said the
neighborhood was essentially developed.
In response to a question by Dr. Brown, Director Hightower said none of
the existing homes built in the setback were constructed since the
adoption of the Coastal Plan, that they were all built prior to that.
Mr. Sweeney said the geologist was with a very conservative firm and
they felt if their recommendations were followed, the site was grossly
stable.
Stasys Petravicious, 15 Sea Cove Drive, said he was unable to see the
plans until tonight. He asked several questions of staff and the Com-
mission concerning the matter. He said the West Portuguese Bend Com-
munity Association had an architectural committee that had not yet seen
the plans.
Marina Simes, 22 Sea Cove Drive, said she has been a resident for 30
years and wanted to remind the Commission that presently Judge Anderson's
house on Lot #1 was in the slide. She wanted to bring this dangerous sit-
uation to the attention of the Commission as any slippage would affect
not only this home but everyone else's property as well.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Brown, to continue
the public hearing and the item, since the geology issue was not given
a review by the County and staff and the Commission desired more geology
information.
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Dr. Brown did not feel the fact that the other lots did not have to
conform to the current restrictions was a basis for approving this vari-
ance. Mr. McTaggart and Mr. Hughes had similar concerns.
In response to questions by Mr. Hughes, Director Hightower said the
categories should be referred to as geologic categories rather than
zones.
Dr. Baer requested information from staff on the existing buildings in
the area, including their lot numbers, etc.
Vote on the above motion was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart
NOES: Hughes
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes directed that the item be placed on the first agenda following
receipt of the required input from the County.
RECESS
At 10:00 p.m. a brief recess was called.
The meeting reconvened at 10:06 p.m.
with the same members present.
GRADING APPLICATION NO. 528 Ms. Angus said the request was to allow
2085 Chandeleur Drive grading on slopes greater than 35 per-
Applicant/Landowner: V. Jaksic cent to provide an access drive to an
adjoining lot owned by the applicant's
brother. She reviewed the background
of the lot and the access problem and explained that the lot did not have
the legal right to use the private drive and the pole to Daladier Drive is
too steep to permit access. She said the proposed drive meets all the cri-
teria for a driveway to service the subject lot, but the subject lot al-
ready has access. She said, therefore, the Commission must determine
whether or not the grading on slopesexceeding 35 pet -cent -is excessive.,'
Staff recommended that the proposed drive is a feasible design but questioned
whether the grading is excessive to the primary use of the lot. Staff
requested an opinion from the City Attorney and his response was that the
City did not have to grant access but could if the grading was acceptable.
Staff recommended that the Commission discusss the proposed grading and
decide if the grading is excessive or not.
Mr. Hinchliffe asked the basis for granting the.C.67rtific
ate= of- Compliance.
Director Hightower said the Certificate of Compliance is not a lot split,
that the City found the lot had been legally created earlier. She said
the map shows an access via the pole and has no easement right on the
private road and that apparently it was not obtainable.
Vinko Jaksic, 2085IChandeleur Drive, said the lot is there and has an
access, but that it was impossible to provide access through the flag be-
cause the difference in elevation is approximately 55 feet.
In response to Commission questions, Mr. Jaksic said he did not knowthe
reason the neighbors would not -grant an easement fbr his brother's lot.-'
He said he had approached his neighbors with an offer to buy the access
right. He said he has discussed the matter with his attorney.
Dr. Baer felt the traffic from one additional lot would be quite minimal.
Director Hightower explained that the lot in question did not have on
its deed access rights to the easement. I/
Mr. Hughes felt the applicant could provide an easement to this property
from his lots. He said the applicant has access to the private road and
this property is adjacent.
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J. E. Guzman, 1940 Ilene Street, West
Commission showing the retaining wall
fill on the lot. He said they did not
problems.
Covina, presented plans to the
and said there would be minimum
foresee any geologic or soils
Mr. Hinchliffe said it appeared that someone made a mistake in processing
the map originally and did not check to see if the pole could really
provide access to the lot. He said if the error had been caught at the
time, this lot probably would have .gained access through the private
road. He asked if the City could require that access be provided.
Director Hightower said the lot was sold to Mr. Jaksic with the under-
standing that there was no access.
Mr. McTaggart proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe., to approve
Grading Application No. 528.
Dr. Brown felt it was very sad that this situation has arisen, that what
would be a sensible access cannot be obtained. He said he was a pro-
fessional partner of Mrs. Jaksic and that that had no baring on his
decision.
Mr. Hughes sugggested amending the motion to condition the application
upon the proper recording of the necessary legal documents guaranteeing
legal access to the subject property. He felt the approval should be
contingent upon recording the document prior to any construction.
Mr. McTaggart and Mr. Hinchliffe amended the motion as suggested by
Mr. Hughes.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Baer, Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen calendar days.
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 7 Mr. Hughes noted that this item had
been withdrawn by the applicant and,
therefore, would not be considered.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 37962 Mr. Thompson said the request was for
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 66 the development of 64 single family
Northerly of Barkentine Road lots and common open space on a 100 -
Landowner: Palos Verdes Properties acre parcel. He said no construction
Applicant: Sikand Engineering of homes was proposed at this time.
He reviewed the project location,
zoning, and design concept. He re-
ferred to the exhibits on display, including various overlays. He briefly
reviewed the issues of concern: environmental impacts, topography, geology,
drainage, grading and street design. He said the County Geology Section
was unable to recommend approval of the tentative map because of geo-
logical problems associated with the proposed emergency road that was
recommended by the Fire Department, which connects with Narcissa Drive
which is located within an active landslide area. He referred to the
required findings of the Subdivision Map Act and said staff could .make
four of those required findings. Staff recommendation was that the
Commission open the public hearing, take public testimony, and discuss
the issues. Staff further recommended that the Commissi6n.deny the
project based on the information in the staff report.
In response to
Hightower said
because of the
recommending a
deadline.
Commission questions concerning the deadline, Director
the project had to wait a long time before public hearing
staff backlog. She said one of the reasons staff was
straight denial was because of the problems with the
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In response to Commission questions concerning alternatives, Mr. Thompson
said the same problems would exist with access, etc.
Director Hightower noted that the applicant was given an indication very
early that staff had severe problems with the project.
In response to Commission questions, Mr. Thompson said it was a balanced
grading operation. He felt no matter what project was proposed for this
site there were several geology questions that must be answered, as the
Environmental Impact Report {EIR} points out. He said the geology in-
formation submitted was not complete, that there was a definite need for
further studies in the area. He said the geological setback was based
on data that the slide could not be stabilized. He said the County felt
that whether the development is located on the slide or off the slide, the
slide should be stabilized.
Public hearing was opened.
Monte Brower, Palos Verdes Properties, said the proposal was for 64
one -acre terraced lots. He said a number of geology reports were com-
pleted prior to the EIR and were reviewed. by the County Geologist, who
felt they were sufficient for the tentative map stage and that the pro-
perty was suitable for development. He said the only area of concern was
with the access route to Narcissa Drive. He said there were a number of
alternative access roads. He said the property was excluded from the
Moratorium because it was considered to be stable. He said they submitted
a number of sketches to staff over the past year and that the applicant
was willing to modify the design concept to clustering if it was the
Commission's desire. He requested the opportunity to respond to additional
questions prior to the end of the hearing.
Dr. Brown said the EIR indicates that almost every project for this site
would require things such as grading In the Open Space Hazard zone,
some infilling of the canyons, etc. He said it also mentions blasting at
one part of the site.
Mr. Brower said the grading in the Open Space Hazard zone would only be
for roads or for geological stabilization, and that filling in canyons
would be for access. He said they were looking for feedback from the
Commission and then would try to fine tune the proposal. He asked about
getting a 90 -day extension on the pr03ect.
Director Hightower said that would be the maximum extension possible.
Ken Marks, Sikand Engineering, said the timing was a critical issue. He
said they were told early that there were problems but wanted to get
the project before the Commission for direction. Re: filling some of the
canyons, he said, they could make them look natural.
Dr. Brown said hydrology was also a concern with filling canyons.
Mark Bryant, Converse -Ward -Davis -Dixon, geologist, said the EIR indicated
potential risk and that they have provided mitigation measures to reduce
the risk. He said he spoke to Mr. Smith of the County Geology Section
on January 9, 1981 and he indicated no problem with the site as far as
geology goes, only with the access location. He said they have recognized
the slide, that it is relatively shallow. He said their preference was
to stabilize the slide regardless of the project. He said they designed
the shear key and buttress and made recommendations to Sikand Engineering
for modification. He said they analyzed the site very conservatively.
He said they would be grading about 670,000 cubic yards and that the
grading would probably take about six months.
In response to a question by Mr. Hughes, Mr. Bryant said they typically
request that they stay involved with the project through the foundation
phase. He said the project engineer would be out there during the grading
and his people would also be out there in the field. He said they perform
an adequate amount of testing.
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Phil Robinson, 3205 Barkentine Road, member of the Upper Abalone Cove
Homeowners Association, said he ob3ected to development for the follow-
ing reasons: geology ---the area has three active landslides, there were
several ancient landslides, the EIR indicates the proposed buttressiftg
technique has never been used before, the project may activate the slide,
and geology was an inexact science; hydrology ---the increased runoff, the
property damage that has already occurred, and the litigation in process;
and liability ---the homeowners would hold the City liable. He felt this
plan was extremely aggressive given the situation. He passed out copies
of his testimony to the Commission and staff.
Mr. Hinchliffe said perhaps this pro3ect would benefit the community
by providing stabilization to the site.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, expressed concern about the grading,
potential blasting, and the geology. She said the Barkentine Canyon
was devastated over the past two years. She was upset about the Presley
tract and the runoff.
Zona Tolliffe, 6347 Tarragon Road, said she concurred with Mr. Robinson.
Helen Huenerzager, 3156 Barkentine Road, said she lost one house in the
Portuguese Bend slide and did not want--fQ jo8e another'.- She said that -
slide was completely impossible to stop. She was very concerned about
the potential danger to here present home.
Ted Shurtleff, 6501 Le Bec, agreed with all of the speakers ob3ecting
tonight. He said if he lived below this development he would be in
mortal fear.
Paul Christensen, 6317 Tarragon Road, said the geology must be checked
out. He was concerned about access and the increase in traffic on
Tarragon by over 200 percent. He felt that would be a hazard.
Bob Pelton, 2 Packet Road, concurred with Mr. Robinson. He felt the
Commission should go back and clean up the Presley tract before dealing
with a new one. He was also concerned about the traffic.
Mrs. Hendricks, 6320 Tarragon Road, concurred with the others objecting.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously
carried, the public hearing was continued.
Mr. Thompson said if the Commission feels alternative designs for the
site should be considered, staff felt the geology report should first be
reviewed by the City Geologist.
Dr. Brown was not opposed to getting further geology review but said
there were other concerns.
Mr. McTaggart wondered if the applicant had considered a much scaled
down project.
Mr. Hinchliffe said as a practical matter the developer could not spend
the amount of money necessary to stabilize without looking to maximize
the number of lots. He said if the landslide area could be stabilized it
would be a trade-off for filling in the canyon. He asked if the City
could have the City Geologist check the report.
Mr. Thompson said the City had talked to Dr. Ehlig re: the project and
he indicated that if the City chose him to review the geology report, he
would need additional drawings, more borings, etc., as he felt there was
not adequate information now.
Dr. Brown felt the site had terrible constraints on it and agreed with
Mr. Hinchliffe's suggestion for further geology information.
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Mr. Hughes said there appeared to be a consensus to continue the issue
tonight and request the applicant to bring back additional geological
information.
Mr. Hinchliffe said perhaps the easiest solution was to have the applicant's
geologist engage in conversation with Dr. Ehlig and staff and determine
if there is enough time to resolve the geology issue.
Dr. Hightower said it might be possible to get some kind of an informal
feel for it. She said staff has in the past had Dr. Ehlig critique
the geology report. She said she did not know what his schedule might be.
Mr. Thompson said another alternative was to deny the project as submitted
and allow the applicant to refile when the information is available.
Mr. Hinchliffe said he would like to wait two more weeks since there is a
possibility of dealing with this application.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Brown, to continue this
item to the next regular meeting.
Mr. Hughes did not feel two weeks would accomplish anything.
Mr. Brower said they would be happy to work on whatever basis the Com-
mission wanted. He said there was still a great deal of time left if they
get the 90 -day extension.
The above motion carried, with Mr. Hughes dissenting.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM Director Hightower suggested that the
Commission take this matter up prior to
the scheduled Housing Committee meeting
on Monday, June 15, 1981, in the Parks and Recreation building. She said
the Housing Committee meeting will begin at 7:30 p.m. and suggested that
the Commissionmeet at 7:00 to consider this item.
The Commission concurred.
COMMISSION REPORTS Mr. McTaggart read a letter he composed
in response to the transmittal the
Commission received re: policy on staff
time.
Director Hightower said that proposed policy was going back to the City
Council for adoption.
ADJOURNMENT
At 1:25 a.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Monday,
June 15, 1981 at 7:00 p.m.
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