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M I N U T E S
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
December 26, 1978
The meeting was called to order at 7:45 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman Hughes.
PRESENT: Bacharach, Brown, Hinchliffe, Hughes
ABSENT: McTaggart
Also present were Associate Planner Gary Weber, Assistant Planners Keith
Turner and Charlie Jencks, and Code Inspector Sandra Lavitt.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 41 Mr. Turner said at the last meeting
VARIANCE NO. 34 the Commission conceptually approved
Crestridge Road the project based -on some revision to
Landowner/Applicant: Episcopal Home unit 4 to further reduce potential
view obstruction. He said the appli-
cant has removed the third floor of
the last 100 feet of that unit and relocated the units to the southerly
end of unit 3. He referred to the changes made to Exhpibit "A", as listed
in the staff report. He said the revised residency priority agreement had
been reviewed by the City Attorney and referred to the revised landscape
criteria, as shown in the staff report. Staff recommended approval of the
project sub3ect to the conditions in Exhibit "A".
Mrs. Bacharach said the two conditions re a three-month trial period and
duplicate copies which were suggested by staff at the last meeting were not
included in the resolution.
Mr. Turner said they were intended to be in the resolution and would be
added.
Mrs. Bacharach said those two conditions should be numbered as 19 and 20
of Exhibit "A" and the✓existing #19 should be changed to #21.
Mr. Hughes asked how many rooms were removed from building 3 and how many
were added to building 4.
Mr. Turner said he did not have the figure but that the same number were
added as were removed, there was no loss or gain.
Claude Senefeld, architect representing the applicant, said they moved a
total of 8 apartments. He said relocation of the -sewer be done.
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Mr. Hughes felt an effort had been made by the applicant to reduce the view
impaikment.
Mrs. Bacharach proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, -to adopt
Resolution No. 78-53, approving Conditional Use Permit No. 41 and Variance
No. 34, subject to the conditions in Exhibit "A", as amended.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Bacharach, Brown, Hinchliffe, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: McTaggart
Mr. Hughes advised of the right to appeal this decision to the City Council
within fifteen days.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 45 Mr. Weber said this was to be the first
Golden Cove Shopping Center public hearing on the expansion of the
Applicant/Landowner: Terra III Golden Cove Shopping Center. He said
the land changed hands during the last
couple months, and the applicant has
requested that the matter be continued to a future meeting so that revised
plans may be submitted. Staff recommended that the public hearing be
opened, as advertised, then immediately continued to the meeting of Janu-
ary 23, 1979, unless the Commission wished to take a poll of the audience
to see if anyone wished to comment on the item.
Public hearing was opened.
There was no one present to speak on this matter.
On motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mrs. Bacharach, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was continued, as recommended by staff.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 36301 Mr. Turner said this request was for
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 46 a 10 -lot subdivision and the construc-
Peacock Ridge & Highridge Roads tion of 10 units, common recreation
(Lots 1 & 2 of Tract 28750) facilities, and related infrastruc-
Landowner/Applicant: WSM Co., Inc. tural networks. He reviewed the pro-
cedural requirements and described the
project location, zoning, access, and
topography. He described the proposed structures and said the maximum
height was 26 feet. He said a tennis court, small recreation room, pool
and jacuzzi were also proposed, as well as 7 guest parking spaces. He said
staff concerns were: potential annoying noise levels to the Casa Verde
unit owners which may result from court usage, since the tennis court was
proposed to be located directly adjacent to that development; the width of
the street, radii of the curves and steepness of the approach --although re-
vised plans recently submitted were looked at more favorably by the Director
of Public Works; and views --he said a view analysis from the second story
of the units would be prepared for the next meeting. He reviewed the Code
comparison chart, as shown in the staff report, and said theneedfor a
variance was no longer required since the tennis court had been lowered.
He said the applicant intended to revise the plans to meet the Code where
any variance would be required. He said the Director of Public Works recom-
mended a 26 -foot wide street instead of 22 feet, as proposed, because a
22 -foot wide street would not permit parking. Staff had no concerns with
grading at this time and recommended that the Commission open the public
hearing, take testimony, discuss major issues and identify any concerns so
as to give direction to the applicant.
Public hearing was opened.
Ron McAlpin, South Bay Engineering, representing the applicant, said where
Code requirements were not met, the plans would be revised. He said lower-
ing the tennis court would require more cut and changing the grade of the
driveway would also resultAn more cut and export. He said he did not have
exact figures at this time. Re the street layout, he said they have made
changes but cannot agree with staff on the street width. He said a 22 -foot
street with no parking was more usable than a 26 -foot wide street with park-
ing. He said with the revised plan the retaining wall at the driveway and
property line, originally shown as 8 feet high, would now be 10 feet. He
said the street would be private and would have parking bays. He said 7
guest parking spaces for 10 homes exceed the Code requirement by 40 percent.
Bob Wyzenbeek, 11 Via Seville, Casa Verde, Rolling Hills Estates, said the
tennis court and 4 parking spaces were proposed to be located directly
behind his bedroom. He was opposed to the court and felt it should be
moved closer to the units within the development. He was very concerned
about noise and loss of view.
Robert Daly, 5965 Peacock Ridge Road, felt there were not enough parking
spaces proposed. He said there were serious existing parking and traffic
problems.
Gus Barkos, 5987 Peacock Ridge Road, said he has experienced no parking
problem on Peacock Ridge Road.
Mr. Wyzenbeek estimated that 30 percent of Casa Verde had cars in excess
of the two parking spaces provided.
Mr. Daly said the average number of cars in his complex was 22 per unit.
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In response to a Commission question, the applicant said the units were
proposed to be 3 bedrooms plus den.
On motion of Mrs. Bacharach, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was continued.
The Commission had many concerns with the proposed location of the court
and asked if other proposals had been considered.
Richard Linde, 210 Avenue I, Redondo Beach, architect, said they located
the tennis court in the most level area on the site, one which was well-
founded and would not necessitate a lot of grading. He felt for topography,
geology, and soils reasons, this was the best solution and if it could not
be located there they would prefer to eliminate the tennis court rather than
relocate it.
Mr. Hughes felt the tennis court was in a poor location as it would affect
the neighbors and was remote from the people it was intended to be used by.
He felt the owners of the project should bear the noise from the court,
not the residents of another facility. He felt the tennis court should be
relocated on the site or removed. He suggested that the applicant work
with staff to resolve this problem and the parking problem. He suggested
using the tennis court area for additional parking.
Mrs. Bacharach concurred.
Dr. Brown also felt the applicant should change the plans to reflect elimin-
ation of the setback problem.
Mr. Hinchliffe said it appeared that the driveways were not large enough to
accommodate a car. He felt guest parking was a serious problem, consider-
ing the size of the units. He agreed that the tennis court should be re-
located, perhaps shifting some of the units so that the court was in the
middle of the development. He said regardless of the width of the street,
people would park there and if it was 22 feet, there would be difficulty
driving through with cars parked along it.
Mr. McAlpin said they were conforming with the Code and there appeared to
be a difference between what the Code required and what would be ideal.
He asked for direction from the Commission in order to redesign.
Mr. Turner said removal of the tennis court, keeping the 7 parking bays,
and revising the driveways to hold two cars would provide much more parking.
Mrs. Bacharach said she would feel much more comfortable with a 26 -foot
wide street, as she felt people would park there.
Mr. Hughes said the Commission did not wish,to make the project into a
parking lot, but wished to provide adequate parking. He said they looked
to the applicant to propose some measures to mitigate the problem.
Mr. Turner said he did not feel view obstruction would be an issue, but
would have the analysis ready for the next meeting.
Mr. Hinchliffe asked that a condition be placed in the CC&Rs to prohibit
lighting on the tennis court if it is constructed.
At 9:12 p.m. a brief recess was called.
The meeting reconvened at 9:20 p.m.
with the same members present.
On motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, and unanimously car-
ried, the order of the agenda was changed to put Grading No. 340 ahead of
Code Amendment No. 6.
GRADING NO. 340 APPEAL
4104 Miraleste Drive
Applicant/Landowner: C. Hawke
Mr. Jencks said this was an appeal to
a staff denial of an application which
requested permitting a newly constructed
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downslope retaining wall and compacted fill to remain in its present con-
figuration and allow for completion of the rear yard improvements which
include a swimming pool. He reviewed the violations and the Code criteria.
He said the grading was excessive and maximized disturbance to the natural
contours. He referred the Commission to detailed drawings, saying the prob-
lem with this type of application was that the drawings were all done after
the fact. Staff recommended that the Commission uphold the staff denial of
the project application and consider both alternative measures proposed by
staff, as shown in the staff report, or any other measures which would bring
the project into complete conformance with the Code.
Charlotte Hawke, 4104 Miraleste Drive, applicant, said the man for -the deck-
ing said there was no compaction and did not recommend putting in the deck
with that condition. She said she had put in a wall in the front area which
did not require approval and, therefore, did not realize she needed approval
for the wall in the rear yard. She felt the wall had ample footing and that
there was ample drainage.
In response to a Commission question, Sandra Lavitt, Code Inspector, said
she became involved around the middle of October because of a complaint.
She said she observed the wall at that time and told the supervisor of the
job that there would be a'Code violation if the wall was backfilled.
Mr. Hinchliffe felt it was possible to maintain the soil in the area with-
out a retaining wall. He said it violates the Code and was unnecessary.
Dr. Brown agreed and felt staff's suggested mitigation measure, particularly
with a 50 percent created slope, was reasonable.
Mrs. Bacharach said she would feel comfortable with a 50 percent created
slope.
Mr. Hughes agreed that a 50 -percent created slope was a reasonable com-
promise.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Dr. Brown, to uphold the
appeal subject to the following conditions: that the wall be lowered to
approximately 4 feet at the point where the wall reduces in thickness and
that the slope be established at 50 percent, subject to staff approval.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Bacharach, Brown, Hinchliffe, Hughes
NOES: None
ABSENT: McTaggart
Mr. Hughes ad�rised of the right to appeal this decision to the city Council
within fifteen calendar days.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 6 Mr. Weber said the intent was to amend
Stock Cooperatives and the Code to allow the Director of Plan -
Right -of -Way Signing ning to make decisions on signing in
the public right-of-way and to include
regulations on stock cooperative hous-
ing. He explained that on October 3, 1978, Council established a moratorium
on the creation of stock cooperatives in order to allow time to study the
issue and determine if a Code amendment should be proposed. He referred to
the study which had been submitted for the Commission's consideration. He
said staff recommended adoption of the draft resolution and approval of the
Guidelines for Signs in the Public Right -of -Way.
Mr. Hughes asked how the City could enforce the Code since no subdivision
map was required for cooperatives.
Mr. Weber felt the City Attorney had thought a great deal about this amend-
ment --he said one way might b� to work something out with the Department of
Real Estate to apprise the City. Further,, as with other City regulations,
it is up to developers to be aware of application requirements.
Mr. Hinchliffe said there were differences of -opinion that it was never
put under the Map Act. He felt it was a question of the State Legislature
catching up.
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Dr. Brown asked if other cities have been challenged.
Mr. Weber said there was litigation, but he was not sure whether it has
been resolved yet. He said the Coastal Commission has determined that it
has control over cooperatives.
The public hearing was opened.
There was no one present who wished to speak on this matter.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Mrs. Bacharach, and unanimously
carried, the public hearing was closed.
Dr. Brown expressed concern over the vacancy factor.
Mrs. Bacharach expressed concern with the wording in the Guidelines for
signing. It was decided to change #1 to read "Temporary Directional Signs."
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Mrs. Bacharach, and unanimously
carried, the Commission adopted Resolution No. 78-54, recommending to the
City Council Code Amendment No. 6 for the regulations of stock cooperative
housing and signs in the public right-of-way.
On motion of Dr. Brown, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, and unanimously carried,
the Commission recommended to the City Council approval of the Guidelines
for Signs in the Public Right -of -Way, as amended this evening.
STAFF REPORTS Mr. Weber referred to the letter to
the Director of Planning from Lester
Barron requesting a work session with
the Planning Commission for the proposed convalescent home.
Paul Barron said the escrow was scheduled to close on April 30 and there
were penalties for delaying it. He said they would like to have the condi-
tional use permit and building permit prior to that.
Mr. Weber said the project application was submitted on December 5 and that
there were a couple major applications ahead of it. He guessed it would be
possibly scheduled in February. He said he felt a work session would be
beneficial to the Commission even more than to the applicant. He suggested
that it be scheduled for a regular meeting after New Business.
Mr. Hughes felt a work session would be beneficial in that it would give
the applicant adequate time to respond to the Commission's major concerns
so that at the public hearing level there would be no major changes required.
The Commission agreed and staff was directed to schedule a work session for
one of the next two meetings if there was a light agenda, and that if there
does not appear to be a light agenda, the Commission would schedule a sep-
arate meeting.
COMMISSION REPORTS Dr. Brown asked the date of the League
of California Cities conference which
was to be held in Monterey sometime in
February, 1979.
Mr. Weber said he did not know, but would check with the Director of Planning.
Mrs. Bacharach asked about the list of subcommittees.
Mr. Hughes said there were only two subcommittees: (1) the joint antenna
subcommittee of Council and Commission and (2) the code enforcement sub-
committee.
ub=committee.
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:50 p.m. it was -moved, seconded,
and carried to adjourn to Tuesday,
January 9, 1979, at 7:30 p.m.
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