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City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
June 13, 1978
The meeting was called to order at 7:39 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairperson Bacharach.
PRESENT: Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart, Bacharach
ABSENT: Hughes
Also present were Director of Planning Sharon Hightower and Assistant Planner
Charlie Jencks.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES On motion -of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by
Mr. Brown, and unanimously carried, the
minutes of the meeting of May 23, 1978,
were approved with the following amendment: page 3, 7th full paragraph,
line 4, should read "...without a survey of the lot line. His..."
VARIANCE NO. 28 Mrs. Bacharach noted that Variance No.
9 Diamonte Lane 28 had been continued to this meeting
Applicant: South Bay Engineering and should be taken up under Old Busi-
Landowner: Dr. Paul Kaye ness as a matter of procedure in case
anyone in the audience wished to speak.
On motion of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was opened.
No one wished to speak on the matter.
On motion of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was continued until the applicant has submitted the re-
vised plans to staff.
VARIANCE NO. 29 Mrs. Bacharach explained the public
6505 Monero Drive hearing procedures to the audience.
Applicant: Jon Hachikian She then opened the public hearing
and asked for the staff report.
Mr. Jencks reviewed the background of the request. He said David Rosso, the
former Code Inpsector, while responding to a complaint on August 2, 1976,
took note of a wall under construction on the front property line and ad-
vised the applicant of the height limitation. He said on September 15, 1977,
a complaint was received and the investigation by Robert Fleming, the cur-
rent Code Inspector, revealed 'that portions of the wall exceeded the maxi-
mum allowable height. He said the street -side wall varies in height from
five feet nine inches (5'9") to six feet six inches (6'6"), and the pilasters
and wrought iron gate on the front property line measure fifty-five (55)
inches from the driveway slab. He noted an error in the staff report and
said the six (6) foot side- wall does not encroach into the front setback.
He reviewed the area and project description, zoning and lot size. He re-
viewed the findings submitted by the applicant (as stated in the staff report)
and cited the sections of the Development Code which have been violated. He
reviewed staff's evaluation of the findings (as stated in the staff report)
and said staff recommended denial of the request, since all of the findings
cannot be made. He presented pictures of the subject property to the Com-
mission.
Jon Hachikian, 6505 Monero Drive, discussed the condition of the site when
he purchased it and the improvements he has made. He said when Mr. Rosso
inspected the site during construction of the front wall, he did not indi-
cate any violation. He felt the fact that Mr. Rosso did not pursue the
issue was proof that he did not see any violation. He said the wall was
necessary to keep his dog in his yard, to keep other animals and tress -
passers out of his yard, to prevent people from throwing debris into his
yard, and to protect his family and property from automobile accidents
which may occur at that intersection. He presented evidence of some of
the items previously thrown into his yard and expressed concern over the
safety of his family and dog. He said he planned the wall and commenced
building in 1975, prior to adoption of the City's Code, but that the wall
took a long time to complete and was done at great expense. He said there
have been no accidents at that intersection as a result of lack of vision,
and noted that he was very active in getting the four-way stop sign put in.�
In response to Commission questions, he said he did not process plans for
the construction of the wall, was not advised of the need for a building
permit, and until recently was not aware of the forty-two (42) inch height
limitation, as Mr. Rosso had indicated a maximum height of forty-eight (48)
inches in the front, more or less.
In response to Commission questions, Director Hightower said prior to the
establishment of the City's Code, the County height limitation on walls
within the front setback was forty-two (42) inches and had been for some
time, and that the City's Development Code was established with a forty-two
(42) inch height limit within the front setback. She also said the County
requires a building permit for walls exceeding six (6) feet in height.
Ed Bedrosian, 30503 Cartier, said the applicant had improved the appearance
of the site considerably. He said it was an undesirable lot because of its
proximity to the 7 -Eleven Market, as people park there to drink and throw
their cans and bottles from their cars. He said this problem will not cease,
but at least the wall prevents the trash from being thrown into the appli-
cant's yard area. He said if the wall were lowered it would offer no�ppo
tection for the applicant.
Dominic Gargano, 1701 Granvia Altamira, said he wished to verify what the
applicant said. He felt the City should be doing something about the high_
weedson both sides of the street instead. He felt the applicant had done
a fine service for the City with the improvements he has made.
Don Davis, 28836 Leah Circle, did not feel there was any visibility problem
at that intersection and also felt that action by the City should have been
taken during construction of the wall, not two years later.
Jim Reuter, 6537 Monero Drive, said the applicant had made a significant
improvement in the appearance of that corner. He said the wall is needed
to keep the dog in the yard, and he did not feel there was a visibility
problem.
Walt Schmitteckert, 6749 Monero Drive, cited an accident at that intersec-
tion before the applicant's purchase where the car came to rest in the yard
not far from thehouse. He did not feel there was any vision impairment at
that intersection, and praised the improvement of the property.
Mrs. Hachikian, 6505 Monero Drive, pointed out that their lot was lower than
the lots on the other three corners.
On motion of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
Mr. McTaggart explained that the Commissioners were required to make each
of the four findings in order to grant a variance. He did not feel the
applicant would be troubled with trespassers if the wall was the permitted
height. He did not feel that a high wall was required in the front yard in
order to contain the dog if there was a fence in the rear yard. He said he
lived near a school and a lot of debris was thrown in his -yard, but that his
neighbor down the street with a five (5) foot high fence in front suffered
as much or more debris. Re accidents, he did not feel the height of the
wall had any effect on preventing cars from going through the wall. He
said he was unable to 3ustify the required findings.
Mr. Hinchliffe asked about the existing slumpstone section of the wall at
the corner. Director Hightower said it was considered legally nonconforming.
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Mr. Hinchliffe said he felt the same as Mr. McTaggart. He said it has been
indicated that the applicant was advised of the height requirements in the
front, and that he was unable to make two of the necessary findings.
Dr. Brown concurred with Mr. McTaggart and Mr. Hinchliffe. He said al-
though he did not feel there was a visibility problem at that intersection
with the stop signs there, he was unable to make all of the findings.
Mrs. Bacharach said she could make (1) finding A. because the higher the
wall, the less noise for the applicant; (2) finding B. because this wall
would allow the applicants to use the property in a fashion which other
homes are able to enjoy without the problems -- she felt a property right
entails using the front and rear of the property with reasonable privacy
and reasonably free of litter and noise; and (3) finding C. because she
saw no visibility problem with the stop signs there. She said she was able
to make all of the findings.
Mr. McTaggart felt if there was some limitation on the property whereby
only the front yard could be used (such as a cliff in the rear yard), he
could make finding B., but such was not the case. He pointed out that the
requirement for findings was a State law and that the hardship could not be
self-imposed in the granting of a variance. He felt the applicant had been
advised of what the Code allows, and pointed out that the six (6) foot por-
tion of the wall would also have required a County permit.
Dr. Brown asked if Mr. Rosso had advised the applicant of the height limita-
tion on the wall. Director Hightower said he advised him of the front sec-
tion only, as the side wall was already there.
Mr. McTaggart moved to deny Variance No. 29, but said he would like to see
a compromise worked out between the applicant and staff to attempt to bring
the wall into conformance with the Code before any order to remove the wall
is given.
Director Hightower said in order to conform with the Code, the applicant
would either have to lower the wall to forty-two (42) inches or move it
back behind the twenty (20) -foot front setback and ten (10) foot side yard
setback.
The above motion died for lack of a second.
Mr. McTaggart proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, to deny
Variance No. 29 because all of the required findings could not be made.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Brown, Hinchliffe, McTaggart
NOES: Bacharach
ABSENT: Hughes
Mrs. Bacharach advised the applicant of his right to appeal this decision
to the City Council within fifteen (15) calendar days.
CAPITAL FACILITIES PROGRAM Director Hightower said this was the
second year the City had complied with
the State law requiring the Director
of Planning to submit to the Planning Commission for its review a list of
all proposed public works recommended for the ensuing fiscal year. She ex-
plained that the Commission must review the list and report to her -:as to
conformity with the land use designations of the General Plan.
On motion of Mr. Hinchliffe, seconded by Dr. Brown, and unanimously carried,
the Commission reported to the Director of Planning that the Commission had
reviewed the list of proposed public works for fiscal year 1978-79 and found
all items in conformance with the General Plan.
CONFERENCE EXPENSE RECOMMENDATION
ferences and meetings. She asked for
Director Hightower distributed to the
Commission the staff recommendations
for budget for the Commission for con -
their recommendations.
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Mr. McTaggart recommended that the newest members of the Commission have
first chance to attend any conferences/seminars, since everyone could not
attend. He also suggested that just staff attend the Annual League of
California Cities Conference and that the Commissioners attend those con-
ferences which directly concern commissions.
On motion of Mr. McTaggart, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, and unanimously
carried, the Commission resolved to recommend to the City Council that at
minimum the two newest Commissioners should be funded to attend the League
of California Cities Planning Commissioners' Institute and an appropriate
commissioners' seminar, as offered by the University of California.
OTHER STAFF REPORTS Director Hightower discussed the
Southwest Area Planning Council lun-
cheon meeting on June 23, 1978, and
reminded the Commissioners that they should submit expense forms to the
City for reimbursement when they attend these meetings.
In response to a question of Mr. Hinchliffe, Director Hightower reported
on the status of the Coastal Plan.
Re the scheduled meeting with the City Attorney on June 20, Director High-
tower informed the Commission that the City Attorney was on vacation until
July 5.
The Commission commented that it was very difficult to speak with the City
Attorney during Council meetings, as it was necessary for him to go back
and forth. They suggested meeting with him on an off -night or perhaps at
6:30, prior to the start of the Council meeting. Director Hightower said
that type of request would have to go before the City Council for approval.
ADJOURNMENT
At 9:25 p.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Tuesday,
June 27, 1978, at 7:30 p.m.
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