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M I N U T E S
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
Planning Commission
Regular Adjourned Meeting
January 24, 1978
The meeting was called to order at 7:44 p.m. in the City Council Chambers,
30942 Hawthorne Boulevard, by Chairman McTaggart.
PRESENT: Bacharach, Hinchliffe, Hughes, McTaggart
ABSENT: Rosenberg
Also present were Director of Planning Sharon Hightower, Associate Planner
Gary Weber, and Assistant Planner Charlie Jencks.
MINUTES APPROVAL On motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by
Mrs. Bacharach, and unanimously carried,
the minutes of the meeting of December
21, 1977, were approved with the following amendment: page 3, paragraph 11,
line 2, should read "...for three single family units placed to maximize the
view. The applicant..."
On motion of Mrs. Bacharach, seconded by Mr. Hughes, and unanimously carried,
the minutes of the meeting of January 10, 1978, were approved with the fol-
lowing amendment: page 4, paragraph 3, line 2, should read "...be passed on,
but she would check and verify this."
COMMUNICATIONS Director Hightower referred to a letter
from the City Attorney which the Com-
mission received this evening. She
said the Commission could meet with the City Attorney on February 7.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 33206 Mr. Weber said following the meeting of
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 31 December 13, an informal meeting was
San Pedro Hill -Crest Road (East) held between the applicant, the consul -
Applicant: S&S Construction Co. tant, staff and two members of the Com -
Landowner: Palos Verdes Properties mission with the greatest expertise in
the field of radiation. It was deter-
mined at that meeting that further
analysis of radiation exposure should be performed. He said he did not have
the results of the additional testing due to inclimate weather. He reviewed
the revised site plan, including modifications to the grading concept, road-
way design, and the incorporation of a trail and vista point. He said the
prime staff concern was the impact of the steeper created slopes. He said
the applicant is proposing a 28 -foot width for all two-way road segments
and an 18 -foot width for all one-way road segments. He said the applicant
is providing a secondary egress, a trail system and look -out station. He
said the pictures showing what the development would look like, as viewed
from below, will not be ready until the next meeting. Staff recommended
that the Commission reach a consensus on the proposed grading, roadway de-
sign, and trail system.
The public hearing was re -opened.
George Putnam, vice-president of S&S Construction Company, said the radia-
tion concern has not yet been resolved due to the weather. He said he had
extensive work sessions with the engineer and architect re what grading
could and could not be done, and he discussed the proposed slopes. He said
much of the property will be out of view from the adjacent properties. He
said additional parking and turn -outs will be provided on Crest Road.
Mr. Hinchliffe was concerned about the enforcement of limiting the secondary
egress to one-way traffic for egress only.
Mr. Hughes requested information on the grading, specifically the maximum
amount of proposed fill.
Mr. Hinchliffe asked for a cross section on the upper level of lots as they
relate to the radar facility.
On motion of Mr. Hughes, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, and unanimously carried,
the public hearing was closed.
The Commission reached a consensus on the following: the design of the
turn -outs, with review by the Director of Public Works re street design
standards; and for a two-way road system throughout, as they felt it would
be impossible to enforce as a one-way road and, therefore, that section of
the road should be widened for two-way usage.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 37 Mr. Weber reviewed the staff report,
6610 Palos Verdes Drive South noting that conceptual approval had
Applicant: Hanna -Barbera Marineland been granted at the last meeting and
Landowner: Hollywood Park, Inc. that a draft resolution and conditions
had been prepared. He reviewed the en-
vironmental assessment procedures, since
questions had been raised re the adequacy of the Initial Study. He said he
discussed with the Director of Public Works the entrance design, the left
turn lane, and moving the directional sign. He said the Director of Public
Works responded to these issues as follows: the City will move the sign and
is now looking for a location; the modified entrance design is adequate for
the existing traffic and would very likely be adequate for future traffic;
and modification of the left turn pocket was feasible and he would be looking
into a dual left turn pocket and extending the pocket to allow for more
stacking.
Mr. Hughes asked if the applicant would agree to an additional condition
that the theater be made available during off -hours to the general public
and various groups on a net cost basis in a manner similar to that of the
school district.
Mr. Downs said it would be difficult for him to agree to a condition which
would in effect force them to lease at cost to the general public when it
does not conflict with the normal operations, and pointed out that the
school district is supported by public funds, whereas Marineland is a
private enterprise.
Director Hightower said she did not think the City could require any private
party to rent their facilities. The other Commissioners agreed.
Mrs. Bacharach proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hughes, to adopt Resolu-
tion P.C. No. 78-26, thereby granting Conditional Use Permit No. 27, subject
to the conditions in Exhibit "A", which were amended as follows:
Condition #1 -- add "...within one (1) year unless development
has been initiated."
Condition #6 -- line 2, should read "...steps shall be under-
taken by the applicant:"
Condition #7 -- line 2, should read "...a written plan for the
purpose of reducing Marineland..."
Condition #8---- add ""...undertaken by the Director of Planning."
;.
Condition #9" -- should read as follows: "Prior to any 'special
events', which are defined as any event not
typical to the normal operation of Marineland,
a Special Use Permit application shall be sub-
mitted."
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Bacharach, Hinchliffe, Hughes, McTaggart
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rosenberg
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PARCEL MAP NO. 5649
PARCEL MAP NO. 6862
Applicant: Thomas Outland
because of scheduling problems with
company. Staff recommended approval
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Mr. Weber said the applicant was re-
questing a six-month extension of
Parcel Map No. 5649 (lot line adjust-
ment on Via Colinita) and Parcel Map
No. 6862 (lot split above library)
the County Engineer and the title
of both requests.
On motion of Mrs. Bacharach, seconded by Mr. Hughes, and unanimously carried,
the Commission granted a six-month extension for Parcel Map No. 5649.
On motion of Mrs. Bacharach, seconded by Mr. Hughes, and unanimously carried,
the Commission granted a six-month extension for Parcel Map No. 6862.
RECESS
At 9:20 p.m. a brief recess was called.
The meeting reconvened at 9:30 p.m.
with the same members present.
SITE PLAN REVIEW NO. 438
Mr. Jencks reviewed the background of
7300 Via Collado
this request for an antenna. He said
Applicant: Joseph Agronick
approval had been granted for the pro -
Appellant: James Morrison
ject on November 7, and that objections
received resulted in a re -inspection
which revealed that the antenna erected
was not of the same profile as
that which was approved. A new application
was submitted and subsequently
approved. He explained that complaints from
the appellant continued to be
received and as the effort between the appli-
cant and the appellant to work
out a compromise failed, an appeal was filed
on December 27. Staff recommended
that the approval be upheld since the
antenna does not adversely affect
views or property values from adjacent
property owners.
Public participation was opened.
James Morrison, 7284 Berry Hill Drive, submitted and read a letter to the
Commission concerning six grounds for appeal and nine additional concerns.
He felt there should be notification df the neighbors with antenna requests
and recommended a separate application be used for antennas. He said he
was opposed to the location of this antenna as it obstructs his view.
Mrs. Morrison spoke in opposition to the structure.
Harold Bowen, next door neighbor of the Morrison's, spoke in opposition to
the structure.
The applicant was not present. Public participation was closed.
After Commission discussion, Mr. Hughes proposed a motion, seconded by Mrs.
Bacharach, to uphold the appeal of Site Plan Review No. 438 because the
location of the antenna creates an adverse effect on the view. They re-
quested that the applicant be informed of this decision and his right to
appeal, and that he must file another application and submit a plan for a
different location.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Bacharach, Hinchliffe, Hughes, McTaggart
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rosenberg
GRADING NO. 238
28011 Lobrook Drive
Applicant/Appellant:
William Adams
the grounds that all of the criteria
cannot be adequately met or served.
Public participation was opened.
Mr. Jencks gave the background of the
request and said the project was denied
by staff on December 6 because of
failure to meet the criteria in Section
9667 of the Development Code. Staff
recommended denial of the appeal on
for evaluation of grading applications
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William Adams, 28011 Lobrook Drive, said he had an engineer draw up plans
which met the retaining wall heights, and showed a drawing of the proposed
tennis court as it would be viewed from Ambergate Drive. He also showed
pictures and said the court level would not block anyone's view and was
visible only from the balcony of the neighbor's home.
Bill Mitchell, 28017 Lobrook, said the court would require f6ncing which
would cause an impairment to his view. He said he was opposed to a loom-
ing structure immediately adjacent to his property.
Mrs. Mitchell expressed concern about the closeness of the structure.
Public participation was closed.
Mr. Jencks said the applicant has indicated he would remedy the current
problems on the grading plan.
Mr. McTaggart expressed concern about changing anything concerned with
drainage without checking with the County. He felt that grading in extreme
slopes has been allowed only for the purpose of the main use of the property
and that slopes should have a natural appearance.
Mr. Hughes proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hinchliffe, to deny the appeal
of Grading No. 238 based on the Commission's determination that:
1. The proposed grading is excessive beyond that necessary
for the permitted primary use of the lot; and
2. The proposed grading would significantly adversely
affect the visual relationships with, or the views
from, neighboring sites.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Bacharach, Hinchliffe, Hughes, McTaggart
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rosenberg
Mr. McTaggart advised the applicant of his right to appeal this decision to
the City Council within fifteen calendar days.
GRADING NO. 241 Director Hightower said the applicant
2 Top Rail Lane was appealing a staff denial of a re-
Applicant/Appellant: quest to add 49 cubic yards of fill to
David English a horse trail in a canyon. She said
the request was denied because staff
determined that the proposed grading,
taken cumulatively with all other grading which has been done on the site,
is excessive beyond that necessary for the permitted primary use of the
lot. She said the trail also cuts through an area of Open Space Hazard.
She showed pictures and said the area was considerably steep. Staff recom-
mended denial based on excessive and unnecessary scarring of the natural
landscape.
Mr. Hinchliffe asked if staff was aware of the letter delivered to the
Commission by the applicant and, if so, what was staff's response to the
specific points mentioned in the letter.
Director Hightower said she was not given a copy of the letter, but had
seen a copy of it, and that staff disagreed with most of the points men-
tioned.
Dave English, 2 Top Rail Lane, said the scarring which was the original
complaint of the neighbors is over with, and that the request did not con-
cern a great deal of dirt. He said it should not change the topography at
all.
Speaking in favor of the request were: Howard Cohn, 2638 Colt Road; Richard
Todd, 8 Top Rail Lane; Dave Weston, 104 Rockinghorse Road; Richard Scott,
35 Rockinghorse Road; and a resident of Goldenspur. They felt the project
would make the lower trail less steep, less dangerous, and would benefit
the entire area, as it is the only trail in the area on which to ride.
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Arthur Brock, 2831 Colt Road, spoke in opposition to the request, saying
that there has been illegal grading in the canyon and permits issued to
exceed the allowable grading. He said he supported staff's position as
being sound, just, and accurate.
Mr. English showed pictures of the area in question.
Public participation was closed.
Mrs. Bacharach felt since the trail was there and seems to be a community
resource at this point, that it should be made safe and should allow access.
Mr. Hinchliffe was concerned that this appears to be an on-going subject
and has been a piece -meal effort over a long period of time. He felt on a
cumulative basis, it is excessive.
Mr. Hughes concurred and felt additional fill was unnecessary.
Mr. McTaggart did not feel raising the trail would make it any safer.
Mr. Hinchliffe proposed a motion, seconded by Mr. Hughes, to deny the appeal
of Grading No. 241 based on excessive and unnecessary scarring of the natural
landscape.
Roll call vote was as follows:
AYES: Hinchliffe, Hughes, McTaggart
NOES: Bacharach
ABSENT: Rosenberg
Mr. McTaggart advised the applicant of his right to appeal this decision to
the City Council within fifteen calendar days.
STAFF REPORTS Director Hightower said the City Attorney
would meet with the Commission at the
meeting of February 7 re the tree trim
ordinance. She said the meeting will probably take place right at 7:30 p.m.
Director Hightower said there was no facility available in the City for the
joint Planning Commission/staff meeting. The Commission agreed to hold the
meeting at Ante's Restaurant in San Pedro at 6:00 p.m. February 15.
COMMISSION REPORTS Mr. McTaggart said he called the City
Attorney today re antenna applications
and was advised that the Commission
make sure the findings are spelled out when making the decision.
Mr. Hughes expressed concern about the poor lighting in the City Council
Chambers, as several of the fixtures have burned out and are not being re-
placed.
ADJOURNMENT
At 11:45 p.m. it was moved, seconded,
and carried, to adjourn to Tuesday,
February 7, 1978, at 7:30 p.m.
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