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PC MINS 19770414M I N U T E S City of Rancho Palos Verdes Planning Commission Work Session April 14, 1977 The meeting was called to order by Chairman McTaggert at 7:30 p.m. PRESENT: McTaggert, Hughes, Rosenberg ABSENT: Blue LATE ARRIVAL: Blue (8:13 p.m.) ALSO PRESENT: Director of Planning Hightower, Associate Planner Davis, Interim Commissioner Bacharach COASTAL SPECIFIC PLAN Staff distributed a memo proposing an approach to the discussion in order to reach some consensus on the major issues: agriculture, residential density, clustering, and trails and access points. The Commission determined that there should be a policy of encouraging agriculture but not designating it as a use except as discussed in Sub -Region 3. In other sub -regions the City might encourage clustering development to provide open space which could be leased for agricultural use. The problem of pesticide contaminants to the marine environment was also discussed. Mr Blue arrived. (8:13 p.m.) Commissioner Rosenberg stated that Palos Verdes Drive serves as a strong physical barrier. Therefore, the Commission should not be concerned with inland density patterns since the road serves to separate the Coastal Region. Commissioner Hughes commented that the California Coastal Act must agree since Palos Verdes Drive serves as the boundary for the Coastal ComThission's jurisdiction. The Commission decided to discuss each major sub -region separately. Sub -Region 1: All agreed that a density of/ . 11 du/ac, was appropriate. There was Aet- agreement a-9-te whe:k clustering wai(A"-'appropriate. Commissioner Hughes suggested the possibility of a road along the bluffs so that residences do not back up to trails. Joseph Barnett, Councilman, Palos Verdes Estates, was questioned regarding problems with the public use of the buffs. He stated they had no particular problems. Their attorney has always cautioned against posting signs, erecting fences, or marking trails to protect the City's liability. He will furnish data on where their accidents have occurred. P.,ECESS The meeting was recessed at 9:12 p.m. It was reconvened at 9:18 p.m. with the same members present. 2 Sub -Region The Commission decided it was not ready to discuss this area yet. Sub -Region 7: Commissioner Rosenberg suggested the possibility of commercial recreational use between La Rotonda and 25th St. and that any dense clustering might be done between Paseo del Mar and Palos Verdes Drive South. The Commission was split on commercial Minutes, Work Sion page 2 April V 1977 recreational use. There was a consensus on clustering and majority opinion on the use of intra region density transfer as a method of preserving agriculture. Commissioner Hughes questioned how much acreage was necessary for feasible dry -- farming. Two Commissioners felt this sub -region was no differ- ent than Sub -Region 1 and should be 1 du/ac; one felt it might be a combination of 1 du/ac and 2 du/ac, thereby averaging about 1.5 du/ac., and one felt it should be 1 dujac, in the northern area and 1 du/3 ac. in major southern area. It was agreed that trails and access should be similar to Sub -Region 1, perhaps with a bluff road, in the western portion. The eastern portion's marine environment is not as desirable and the land more unstable. It was suggested that the staff might re -look at trails and access relative to a bluff road. Subregion 6: The problems of vacant land, instability, and the leased portion were discussed. The possibility of using Residen- tial Planned Development was suggested, still leaving the vacant land open space. The Commission determined it would like to assist the residents in the leased area but there appear to be severe problems unless that portion can be proven stable. It was determined that the hearing on the Antenna revisions cannot be held June 9th due to conflicts with the use of the room. Staff will suggest another date. Staff was requested to send a press release on the continued hearing on the Coastal Plan. The meeting was adjourned at 10:13 p.m. to April 21, 1977.