PC MINS 20120612 Approved
June 26, 2012
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES N 1%
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 12, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Tetreault at 7:12 p.m. at the Fred Hesse
Community Room, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
FLAG SALUTE
Commissioner Leon led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance,
ATTENDANCE
Present- Commissioners Gerstner, Leon, Lewis, Nelson, Tomblin, Vice Chairman
Emenhiser, and Chairman Tetreault.
Absent: None
Also present were Community Development Director Rojas and Deputy Finance
Director Downs.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was unanimously approved as presented,
COMMUNICATIONS
Director Rojas reported that at their May 29th meeting the City Council adopted the
Rules of Procedure and Protocol and that copies of these documents will be distributed
to the Commissioners. He also reported that at the June 5th meeting, the City Council
continued the public hearing for the 10 Chaparral project to July 17th and discussed the
proposed 2012 CIP which is also on tonight's Planning Commission agenda.
Director Rojas distributed a revised draft 2012 CIP for discussion as part of agenda item
No. 3.
Commissioner Nelson noted that today is the three year anniversary of the opening of
the Terranea Resort.
COMMENTS FRONT THE AUDIENCE (regarding non-agenda items):
None
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Revision to Height Variation, Grading, and Site Plan Review Permit (Case
No. ZON2010.00252): 30400 Diamonte Lane
Director Rojas presented the staff report, explaining that the applicant has recently
approached staff requesting that they be allowed to export the cut material from the
property rather than putting the material on another parcel that they own. He stated that
a fifteen day public notice was sent out, however staff realized that the public notice
should have been a thirty day notice. Therefore, staff sent out an additional notice and
is recommending this item be continued to June 26th
Commissioner Leon questioned why this item is before the Planning Commission and is
not a Director's decision.
Director Rojas explained that staff did not determine this to be a minor modification
because of the amount of export that has to leave the property and the number of truck
trips that will be going through a residential neighborhood. Staff wanted to make sure
this proposed revision was heard at a public hearing.
There being no speakers, Chairman Tetreault did not open the public hearing.
Commissioner Nelson moved to continue the public hearing to June 26, 2012,
seconded by Vice Chairman Emenhiser. Approved without objection.
2. Height Variation, Site Plan Review and Grading Permit (Case No. ZON201 1-
00302): 5863 Ocean Terrace Drive
Director Rojas presented the staff report, giving a brief description of the proposed
project and the need for the various applications. As noted in the staff report, he
explained there was a potential privacy impact to the neighbor immediately adjacent,
however staff has proposed conditions to require the windows be translucent and
cannot open. Staff felt the project was compatible with the neighborhood, as it was
designed in such a way as to minimize the bulk and mass and included articulation in
terms of the second story being setback on all sides and centered. The neighbors also
raised an issue of view impairment on their sunset view over the existing residence.
Staff noted that the code does not protect sky view. He stated staff was recommending
approval of the project as conditioned in the staff report.
Vice Chairman Emenhiser asked staff to explain the neighborhood compatibility
analysis, noting the proposed house would be approximately one-third larger than, the
next largest home.
Director Rojas agreed the proposed home is much larger in square footage than those
in the immediate neighborhood, however staff felt that first story additions are all in
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different areas of the home, thus no large and bulky addition was being added to the
first floor. The second story design is setback from the front fagade and staff felt
addressed any bulk and mass issues.
Chairman Tetreault asked if there were any public speakers for this item.
Director Rojas noted that there were no requests to speak on the item.
Commissioner Gerstner moved to approve the project as recommended by staff,
seconded by Commissioner Lewis.
Commissioner Leon stated that in driving by the property his primary concern was the
size of the proposed house. However he noted that all of the homes in the
neighborhood look quite large, and this house is on a particularly large lot.
Chairman Tetreault noted the bulk of the existing house along Highridge seems to be
broken up by breezeways and these breezeways do not exist on the new plan. Further,
the footprint of the house will increase. He therefore felt there will be quite a bit more
mass to the new residence that was is currently there. However, he agreed that quite a
few homes in the area were designed to give the appearance of mass. He also noted
that the proposed residence will be at 39 percent lot coverage, and wondered what the
lot coverage was on other homes in the neighborhood.
Director Rojas explained that staff does not perform a lot coverage calculation for the
other homes in the neighborhood, but based on a visual assessment of the
neighborhood aerial, the lot coverage of the applicant's lot appeared to be more than
the other lots in the neighborhood.
Vice Chairman Emenhiser stated that the proposed addition meets the rules of the City,
however knowing that bulk and mass assessment is subjective he felt this proposed
addition appears to overwhelm the neighborhood.
Commissioner Nelson stated he walked the neighborhood with the plans and did not
find bulk and mass to be an issue when looking across the street or down the street.
He therefore agreed with staff on this issue.
The motion to approve the project as recommended by staff was approved and
PC Resolution 2012-11 was adopted, (5-2) with Vice Chairman Emenhiser and
Chairman Tetreault dissenting.
NEW BUSINESS
3. General Plan consistency finding for 2011 CIP
Director Rojas presented the staff report, explaining this was a procedural item. He
explained the Government Code requires that before the City adopts a Capital
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Improvement Plan, the CIP must go to the Planning Commission for a finding of
consistency with the General Plan. Staff has reviewed the CIP and believes it is
consistent with the various goals and policies of the General Plan, He noted that at the
last City Council meeting the draft CIP was presented, and while the Council did not
make any changes to the projects listed, the Council did raise some questions that
prompted staff to make some refinements to the draft CIP. These refinements are
included in the document that has been distributed to the Commission as late
correspondence which is the same document that will be presented to the City Council
at their next meeting for their formal adoption. He explained that the Planning
Commission's purview is limited to consistency with the General Plan. He concluded by
stating that Deputy Finance Director Kathryn Downs is present to answer any questions
on the CIP.
Deputy Director Downs explained that the document only included projects of$100,000
or more because that is the capitalization threshold for capital improvement projects.
She noted that there are two categories for projects, the funded list and the unfunded
list, briefly explaining the two categories. She then summarized the changes between
the CIP included with the Staff Report and the CIP distributed as late correspondence.
Commissioner Leon understood the $100,000 threshold, but asked Deputy Director
Downs if she had an estimate of the total cost of all of the projects that don't meet that
threshold.
Deputy Director Downs estimated $300,000 to $400,000.
Vice Chairman Emenhiser asked for clarification on the beautification grants for
Hawthorne Boulevard as well as the coastal trail project and where they appear in the
staff report.
Deputy Director Downs referred the Vice Chairman to the appropriate sections in the
staff report.
Commissioner Lewis recalled a past City Council meeting where the Council voted to,
stop all further efforts towards developing a new city hall, however the new city hall is on
the list. He asked if the Planning Commission vote is in any way a vote stating that
constructing a new city hall is consistent with the General Plan.
Director Rojas explained that the projects listed are included because of previous
direction and the Council did not take any of the projects out when they reviewed the
draft CIP on June 5ti'. However, the City Council did ask for a prioritization of projects.
He stated that by voting that the CIP is consistent with the General Plan the Planning
Commission is finding the projects that the Council has elected to put on the list are
consistent with the goals and policies of the General Plan.
Commissioner Gerstner asked if the Commission is voting on both the funded and
unfunded list in terms of consistency with the General Plan.
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Director Rojas answered that was correct.
Chairman Tetreault asked if the five year CIP was done annually, so it would be a rolling
five years.
Deputy Director Downs answered that an annual update to the CIP is done, therefore it
is a rolling five years.
Chairman Tetreault asked how this document compares to last year's document and if
there have been any significant changes with respect to the projects,
Deputy Director Downs answered there are very few changes between the 2011 and
2012 documents, noting that the few changes that were made are highlighted in the
staff report.
Commissioner Lewis moved to adopt staff's recommendation as to the General
Plan consistency finding with the draft CIP distributed as late correspondence
handout, seconded by Vice Chairman Emenhiser. PC Resolution 2012-11 was
approved, (7-0)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
4. Minutes of May 8, 2012
Commission Gerstner did not think the minutes were as detailed as he had requested,
primarily the section where the Council went back and forth in regards to the letter from
the ex-mayor of Palos Verdes Estates. He did not think that, given the way it all played
out, it should be paraphrased.
Vice Chairman Emenhiser thought at the last meeting the Commission decided the
minutes should be verbatim.
Director Rojas explained that the Deputy Director had noted there had been some
discussion on the minutes and it was his understanding that the Planning Commission
requested more detailed minute for a portion of the discussion. He explained that
verbatim minutes were not prepared as it is not the Commissions policy to have
verbatim minutes. Furthermore, the direction from the City Manager was to be as
consistent as possible with previous Planning Commission direction on how the minutes
are to be regularly prepared. Notwithstanding, if the Commission wants to go to
verbatim minutes, that can be agenized for discussion. He cautioned that verbatim
minutes will cost more to prepare.
Commissioner Gerstner clarified that his request was not to have the entirety of the
minutes be verbatim but only an appropriate 10-minute section.
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Chairman Tetreault asked the Director, since this was a joint session with the City
Council, will there basically be two sets of minutes.
Director Rojas answered that his understanding was that, in speaking with the City
Clerk, once the minutes are adopted by the Commission they will be presented to the
City Council for their adoption.
Commissioner Gerstner moved to not approve the minutes and request that the
section of the meeting where there was primary discussion by the Council with
regards to the Traffic Safety Commission and the letter that was sent by the ex-
mayor of Palos Verdes Estates letter be verbatim, seconded by Commissioner
Tomblin. Approved, (7-0).
Commissioner Leon stated that he did not think the Commission was asking for
verbatim minutes as a general rule, but only for this one section of the meeting to record
what happened.
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
5. Pre-Agenda for the meeting- on June 26, 2012
The pre-agenda was reviewed and approved as presented.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
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