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March 22, 20
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDE
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 22, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Tomblin at 7:05 p.m. at the Fred Hesse
Community Room, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
FLAG SALUTE
Commissioner Knight led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.
ATTENDANCE
Present: Commissioners Emenhiser, Gerstner, Knight, Vice Chairman Tetreault,
and Chairman Tomblin,
Absent: Commissioners Leon and Lewis were excused.
Also present were Community Development Director Rojas, Associate Planner Mikhail,
Assistant Planner Kim, and Assistant Planner Harwell.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was unanimously approved as presented.
COMMUNICATIONS
Director Rojas distributed one item of correspondence and sixteen photos for agenda
item No. 3 and one item of correspondence for agenda item No, 5.
Commissioner Knight reported that he had met with a neighbor regarding agenda item
No. 4.
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE fregardinc
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Height Variation Permit, Grading Permit and Site Plan Review (Case No.
ZON2010-001441: 4 Avenida de Azalea
Associate Planner Mikhail presented the staff report, explaining the scope of the
proposed project and the need for the various permits. She stated staff did not find any
view impairment impacts, however staff did receive a letter from a neighbor at 22 Paseo
de Castana. Staff visited the property and noted the proposed addition does cause a
view impact to this residence, however staff did not feel this impact was significant. She
noted that there are several palm trees on the property that can be trimmed that will
improve the neighbor's views, and a condition of approval regarding these trees has
been included. She stated that staff was recommending approval of the proposed
project as conditioned in the staff report.
Commissioner Knight referred to condition No. 13 in the staff report, noting the
requirement for a three-car garage. He asked staff if a three-car garage was required or
if this should be a requirement for a two-car garage,
Associate Planner Mikhail stated that the requirement should be for a two-car garage
and staff would change the condition.
Chairman Tomblin opened the public hearing.
Jose Gutierrez (architect) stated that in designing the roof line of the second story, he
took into consideration the immediate neighboring homes, as he did not want to obstruct
any of their views. He noted that the proposed addition is lower than the highest
existing ridge and that more than half of the addition is under the house. He also noted
that there are palm tree that will be removed on the property where the addition will be
located.
James Zupanovich stated he had no objections to his neighbors enlarging their house,
however he was concerned with the extension of the roof. He explained he bought his
house because of the view of the harbor, and that it was difficult to tell from the
silhouette how much of the harbor channel view would be taken away. He was pleased
that the palm trees would be removed and/or trimmed,
Jose Guiterrez (in rebuttal) noted that the addition has been lowered by 3 '/ feet and
the addition was not going above the existing ridgeline.
Harlan Chin (owner) noted on staff's photograph that one of the palm trees is not
actually on his property but is owned by the Homeowner's Association. He therefore
has no control over that tree.
Commissioner Knight asked staff if the condition of approval regarding the palm trees
apply only to those trees that are located on the applicant's property.
Associate Planner Mikhail answered that the condition only applies to those trees on the
applicant's property. She explained that staff was assuming the two palm trees are
located in the rear yard of the applicant's property. She stated she would get
clarification from the property owner,
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Commissioner Gerstner moved to approve the project as recommended by staff,
with the correction to condition No. 13 regarding the garage requirement noted by
Commissioner Knight and a clarification that the condition related to the trees
only applies to the trees that are on the applicant's property, seconded by
Commissioner Knight.
Vice Chairman Tetreault stated he agrees with staff's recommendation and the motion.
He noted that, while there may be some view impairment to the upslope property, he did
not think it was significant given the expansive view that this property owner currently
has and how little of it will be impaired. He explained that he has to weigh the possible
view impairment issue with the property owner's right to improve his property. He felt
that reasonable efforts had been made by the applicant to reduce any view impairment.
Commissioner Knight agreed with the Vice Chairman's comments, noting that the
applicant has already graded down his property to accommodate this proposed
addition.
The motion to approve the project as conditioned, thereby adopting PC
Resolution 2011-08 was approved, (5-0).
2. Height Variation Permit (Case No. ZON2010-00416): 26712 Hawkhurst Drive
Assistant Planner Kim presented the staff report, explaining the scope of the project and
the need for the Height Variation. She noted that, although the resulting structure size
will be the largest in the neighborhood, staff did not feel it will be out of scale due to
design elements that have been added to the project. She also noted the proposed
design is relatively similar to the other two-story homes in the neighborhood. She
stated staff was able to make the necessary findings and was recommending approval
as conditioned in the staff report,
Chairman Tomblin opened the public hearing.
Sonia Rodrigues (project designer) stated she agrees with staff's conditions of approval
and was available to answer any questions,
Commissioner Knight asked Ms. Rodrigues to explain the roof pitch of the new addition.
Ms. Rodrigues explained how the roof would be pitched, and noted that the new ridge
will only be 1 Y2 feet higher than the existing ridge,
Bob Lumley (property owner) stated he supports staffs recommendations and was also
available to answer any questions.
Chairman Tomblin closed the public hearing.
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Commissioner Knight moved to approve the project as recommended by staff,
seconded by Commissioner Emenhiser. The motion was approved, thereby
adopting PC Resolution 2011-09, (5-0).
3. !Leiqht Variation Permit, Gradin_q Permit, and Site Plan Review (Case No.
ZON2010-002521: 6480 Palos Verdes Drive East
Assistant Planner Harwell presented the staff report, explaining that the various
applications were requesting the demolition of an existing home and the construction of
a new home. She explained the scope of the proposed project, and noted that staff was
able to make the findings for neighborhood compatibility. She stated that in response to
the public notice and the erection of the silhouette, staff was contacted by nine property
owners and did a view analysis from these properties. Of the nine properties, she noted
the property at 3071 Deluna Drive is where staff felt there was a significant view impact
caused by the proposed project. She explained that due to the three highest ridge lines
above 16 feet in height significantly impairing the view from this property, staff was
unable to make three of the nine required height variation findings. She stated staff was
therefore recommending denial of the project without prejudice.
Commissioner Knight noted that the staff report discusses other accessory structures in
the area, and asked staff if these accessory structures were built with permits and City
approvals.
Assistant Planner Harwell did not know if these structures were built with permits, but
would research this for the Commission.
Commissioner Knight noted that there is a Second Unit Covenant recorded against the
property that is associated with a previous guest house. He asked staff if that covenant
applies to this application or if a new covenant will have to be recorded.
Director Rojas stated staff will look at the wording of the current covenant to see if it is
specific or if the wording is broad enough to cover the new structure.
Commissioner Gerstner referred to the late correspondence submitted by the applicant
which states they would be willing to lower one section of the ridge down to 16 feet and'
another section down to 20 feet, and asked staff if they felt these adjustments would
alleviate the view impairment.
Director Rojas answered that staff received this correspondence today and has not had
time to verify how lowering these sections would affect the views from the neighboring
properties. He added that given the view impairment and the need for the silhouette,
staff would not be able to answer that question without a new silhouette.
Chairman Tomblin opened the public hearing.
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David Martin (architect) explained the existing residence and various structures on the
property. He stated that the original intent was to remodel the existing house, but the
more they explored that option the more they realized the house had probably outlived
its livelihood. He noted the new proposed house is a smaller house than the existing
one and they have moved the house as far to the north of the property as possible. He
stated that as of yesterday they had removed 49 trees from the property, and a few
more will be removed in the course of construction. He noted the Pepper tree on the
property, and asked that this tree be allowed to remain at least during the course of
construction. He explained that one of the principles for the design of this house is the
carbon footprint and energy efficiency, noting air conditioning will not be installed and
the walls are 12 to 18 inches thick to allow for the maximum insulation. In regards to
lowering the ridgeline, he explained how he will be able to lower areas of the ridgeline to
help mitigate any view impairment.
Lqyd Kenworthy (3071 Deluna Drive) stated that the structure above 16 feet completely
eliminates his coastal view and the coastline of Long Beach and Huntington Beach. He
therefore objected to the proposed structure height above 16 feet that would eliminate
his protected view of the coastline, San Joaquin Mountains, and Laguna Hills.
Commissioner Emenhiser noted the applicant has proposed lowering the ridgeline to 20
feet and asked Mr. Kenworthy if he thought that lowered height would still interfere with
his views.
Mr. Kenworthy answered that anything higher than what is existing on the property will
take away his view.
Charles OpAa (17 Diamonte) stated he generally approves of the project, but was
concerned with the foliage on the property and the proposed garage. He noted that all
of the homes on Diamonte have a long setback to their garages. To that extent, he did
not feel the guest house was compatible with the neighborhood and should be moved
somewhere else on the property. He objected to staff using 6100 Via Subida as part of
their neighborhood analysis, noting that there is no direct access from this residence to
Diamonte Lane.
Wolfgang Arnold stated he generally agrees with the proposed plans, and has the same
comments and concerns that Mr. Boag has in regards to the incompatibility of the guest
house location. He stated his initial concern with the foliage on the property, noting that
most of the foliage has been removed,
Mr. Martin (in rebuttal) again noted that 49 trees have been removed from the property
and the applicant will be doing continued trimming of the remaining trees. He stated he
would be willing to meet with the neighbors to discuss any other foliage on the
applicant's property that may be blocking a view.
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Commissioner Gerstner discussed the height of the proposed structure and asked Mr.
Martin if the newly proposed revised height does not appear sufficient to alleviate view
impairments, what threshold is there in regards to further lowering the ridge heights.
Mr. Martin explained that he has lowered the pitch of the roof to 2 Y2: 12, which lowers
the roof line 7 % inches. He also explained that the existing pad is a man-made pad
and they will be able to lower the building pad by 5 inches by going down to the original
pad.
Commissioner Gerstner asked Mr. Martin about the plate heights of the proposed
residence and if the plate heights could be adjusted at the area where the roof begins to
rise up.
Mr. Martin answered by explaining the contractor who installed the silhouette will be
back at the property tomorrow to construct a new silhouette that reflects the proposed
revisions to the height of the residence.
Commissioner Knight asked Mr. Martin about the interior ceiling heights of the proposed
residence.
Mr. Martin answered that the ceiling heights in the main room are approximately 14 feet
6 inches. He explained this height is needed proportionally since the room itself is 44
feet long and 22 feet wide. He also felt it was needed for the natural ventilation.
Commissioner Gerstner agreed with staff in that there appears to be significant view
impairment to the resident at 3071 Deluna Drive. He felt that the property needs to
have a new silhouette so that staff and the Commission can reevaluate the project. He
encouraged the architect to be as aggressive as he feels he can be to minimize the
view impact to the neighbors.
Commissioner Gerstner moved to continue the public hearing to a date certain to
allow the applicant the opportunity to redesign the project to address the
Commission's concerns, seconded by Commissioner Emenhiser.
Commissioner Emenhiser applauded the applicant's efforts to remove the trees and
bury the utilities to open up the view for the neighbors. He stated he was in favor of the
motion to allow the opportunity to lower the proposed structure as much as possible.
Commissioner Knight agreed with staff in that he was not able to make the required
findings, as he felt there would be a significant view impact to the neighbors.
Vice Chairman Tetreault agreed, adding that he applauded the efforts to make this a
low energy home. He stated that the view ordinance does not give any deference
towards a house that is built to be energy efficient in terms of neighboring views. He felt
that this proposed house will have to be lowered enough so that anything above sixteen
feet will allow the neighbor his view of the coastline.
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Chairman Tomblin asked the applicant if he would agree to a 90 day extension per the
Permit Streamling Act. This will allow the public hearing to be continued to March 22nd
Mr. Martin agreed to the 90 day extension.
The motion to continue the public hearing to March 22, 2011 was approved
without objection.
4. Height Variation Permit, Grading Permit, and Site Plan Review (Case No.
ZON2010-00310): 73 Headland Drive
Assistant Planner Kim presented the staff report, explaining the scope of the project and
the need for the various permits. She explained that because of the unique topography
of the lot there are no view impacts over the subject site, however the applicant is
proposing to lower the existing building pad to minimize any potential view impacts and
to make the building less apparent from Headland Drive, She explained that because
the entire second floor is located in the center of the building footprint it has significantly
larger setbacks than most of the properties on Headland Drive. These large setbacks
also make the project appear less bulky and massive from the street. She stated that
staff feels the numerous articulations incorporated on the house also help the structure
look less massive and bulky. She stated there are no privacy impacts to the abutting
properties, as the second floor has no windows proposed on the east or west fagade.
She noted neighbor's concerns with the proposed pool house, however explained that
the Code allows for accessory structures to be 12 feet in total height, and that such a
proposal would be reviewed and approved by staff over the counter. She stated that
staff felt all of the required findings could be met and was recommending approval of
the project as conditioned in the staff report.
Chairman Tomblin noted one of the submitted letters raised concerns with the drainage
and asked staff to comment.
Assistant Planner Kim explained that drainage is typically reviewed during the Building
and Safety plan check process. She noted that the applicant's engineer is present if the
Commission has any further questions.
Chairman Tomblin opened the public hearing.
Chris Engen (applicant) stated he wants to build a four bedroom house with a detached
pool house, and also wants to be a good neighbor and address his neighbors' concerns.
He explained that the rear portion of his property has been overgrown and unused for
many years, and he has since trimmed and removed much of the overgrown vegetation.
He stated that he has no plans to plant a 12-foot or higher hedge along the side of the
property near the Wyman residence. He has tried to assure the Wymans that he will
work closely with them when they do their landscaping to find a balance between their
privacy needs and the Wyman's side yard view. He felt that his proposed project is
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consistent with the neighborhood and meets the rules of the City and asked the
Commission to approve the project.
Don Thursby (architect) explained that the original proposal was to set the house further
back on the property and the pool was only 30 inches below the finish floor of the new
house. Staff indicated they thought this would result in too much grading for the site, so
he redesigned the project by putting the house closer to the street, lowering the pool
and hence lowering the pool house to accommodate staffs request. He stated he was
available to answer any questions.
Cole Shoemaker (general contractor) explained that when he heard there was a
question regarding the drainage on the property he began discussing the issue with the
civil engineer. He explained how currently the drainage from several properties,
including the applicants, goes down hill and ends up in a concrete swale. He noted that
building this new home will not increase the drainage into the swale, since the property
currently drains into the swale. He explained that the civil engineer's job is to get the
water from the applicant's property to the drainage swale in a manner that doesn't
cause any erosion to the properties between the subject lot and the swale. He stated
that this engineering will be check during the Building and Safety plan check.
Cathi Wyman (77 Headland Drive) stated she brought additional pictures as she did not
think the pictures presented by staff were a true picture of what is happening at the site.
She stated Headland Drive is very unique in that every house is on a large lot,
openness, privacy, and a view. She stated the street was designed with views in mind,
and felt that the views she has enjoyed from her home are in jeopardy. She explained
that the views from the main living area of her home are in jeopardy due to the
proposed pool house. She also felt that the open and expansive feel to her property is
being dramatically altered by the building structure that is directly in her field of vision.
She added that she has no objections to the building of the main residence, just the
pool house that will dominate her field of vision. She also stated that there are no other
outdoor structures in the neighborhood, except for open sided gazebos. She asked the
Commission to use the Neighborhood Compatibility Guidelines to help evaluate this
accessory building. She felt that if the height of the pool house were lowered by 2 feet
the applicant could maintain their pool house and privacy and she would retain her view
and not such an intrusive feel.
Charlene O'Neil stated this new house will be the largest house in the neighborhood,
and is on a half acre parcel. She stated that currently you walk into the Wyman's house
and have a wonderful city view. This view will be gone if the pool house is built as
proposed. She questioned why the pool house couldn't be placed on the other side of
the property.
Chris Engen (in rebuttal) explained that there is a privacy issue in his backyard, as the
lot next to his is approximately 6 to 7 feet higher than his lot. Therefore, to get privacy
he will have to plant some foliage. He felt that the pool house is probably less than
what he would need to plant if he was going to create privacy for himself. He explained
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that he is moving into a new neighborhood and wants to be a good neighbor, but can
see that he is not giving the Wymans what they want. He did not know how to do that
and not have the pool house where it is currently located. He noted that there is an
easement below the pool house, so he can't move it further down the property. Moving
the pool house to the other side of the property will cause grading issues. He added
that he has removed so much vegetation and so many trees from the property that he is
sure he has opened up views for his neighbors that weren't there before. He stated he
is trying to work with the neighbors to make sure he doesn't create an eyesore next to
his neighbor's yard and at the same time is trying to follow the rules of the City.
Chairman Tomblin closed the public hearing.
Chairman Tomblin asked staff if there was a reason the property couldn't be graded
down a little more in terms of the pool house or if there could be grading in another
location on the lot to move the pool house.
Assistant Planner Kim answered that staff is always concerned with the quantity of
grading, and if it is not necessary staff usually will advise against the grading. For this
property she noted there is a pad where the current house is located and then it slopes
down to another flat area. She noted that moving the pool house to the other side of the
property would require more grading, and from staff's standpoint improvements that are
compliant with the code that would require less grading are always more favorable.
Director Rojas added that the staffs direction is because of the grading findings that
must be made, primarily the finding that states the grading does not exceed the amount
that is necessary for the primary use of the lot. He stated there is another finding
regarding minimizing disturbances to the natural contours. He also explained that the
Planning Commission, has very little latitude in terms of the pool house, as it meets the
height limit and setback requirements. He noted that even if the Planning Commission
finds the pool house causes a significant view impact, they cannot reduce the height
lower than the by-right height limit.
Commissioner Gerstner asked how much grading was currently associated with this
project.
Assistant Planner Kim answered the applicant is proposing 549 cubic yards of grading.
Commissioner Knight explained that while at the site he noted that the uphill neighbors
have specifically kept low walls and low landscaping to allow for an unobstructed view
corridor. He therefore was having trouble making a neighborhood compatibility finding.
If the structure is placed where proposed it doesn't seem to fit in with the main design of
this neighborhood in that there are no structures in this view corridor.
Director Rojas clarified that the Planning Commission cannot make findings for this pool
house in terms of view impact. However, the structure can be looked at through
neighborhood compatibility issues,
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Commissioner Knight referred to the comparison chart in the staff report which looks at
the 20 closest homes. He discussed the residence at 15 Headland, which is a 9,987
square foot home. He explained that he researched the minutes from the meeting
where this residence was approved and found that three of the Commissioners at the
time felt the residence would be too bulky and massive. He also noted that staff had a
recommendation not to approve the project because of its bulk and mass. He therefore
was not including this residence when looking at the comparison chart. With that, he
felt that this proposed residence is at the upper end of homes in the neighborhood in
terms of size and was too bulky and massive for the street. He noted that this house is
quite visible from the street, while 15 Headland cannot been seen from the street. He
was also concerned with the pool house location and its impact to the neighboring
property.
Chairman Tomblin re-opened the public hearing.
Commissioner Emenhiser spoke to the architect and explained the Commission seems
to be wrestling with the rules versus neighbors versus views. He noted that the
architect's profession is about options and possibilities and asked Mr. Thursby if he had
any other alternatives for the Commission to consider.
Mr. Thursby noted that the roof of the pool house has been lowered to a 3:12 pitch,
which is as low as he could go. He explained that because of the angle the Wymans
view of this structure from above, if he were to move the pool house closer to the
Wyman's property it would actually reduce the view impairment. He also explained that
the pool house is lower than the pool, and this is a concession the owners made to get
this structure as low as possible. He stated that the roof is not a ridge roof, but rather a
hip roof, so the impairment only occurs for a 6 or 7 foot length in one small section.
Commissioner Knight questioned why the roof pitch couldn't be lowered or a flat roof
created.
Assistant Planner Kim stated that staff had a concern with a flat roof because of
neighborhood compatibility. She pointed out that when looking at the twenty closest
homes, most include primarily a hip or gable roof.
Mr. Thursby questioned if there is a target he should aim for as far as the height of the
accessory structure. He noted that if there is potentially a six inch view impairment of
some distant city lights, he questioned if he really need to lower the structure 18 inches
below that view line.
Chairman Tomblin closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Gerstner stated it is difficult to judge impacts from photos, noting it is
easy to take a photo that looks worse than it really is and equally as easy to
misunderstand a photograph and find that something is much closer than it appears in
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the photo. He felt there is a lot of grading going on and a lot of house going on, and to
the extent as to how the pool house impacts the neighbors could be minimized, he
would like to see that happen. He felt the applicant is willing to work with the neighbor
to help minimize the impact of the pool house, and if it is the City's concern about
grading that has driven the solution before the Commission, he was in favor of easing
some of those grading restrictions so that what the owner and the neighbor seem to
want can be accomplished.
Vice Chairman Tetreault stated that in the past the Commission has held to the belief
that neighborhood compatibility has to be taken from the street, However, with regards
to this project, he recognized the pool house could have a significant impact on the
Wyman property but felt the only reason the pool house is an issue is because of the
view impact. He therefore was having a problem with the concept of not approving this
for neighborhood compatibility reasons when he thinks it's really a view issue, and this
is a by-right structure. He stated he would not be happy to have this happen to him as a
neighbor, but people also have property rights that are set up by the code. He also
noted that if the applicant came in with the pool house only it would be an over the
counter approval and never be seen by the Planning Commission. He stated he has a
lot of sympathy, but didn't think he had any discretion.
Commissioner Knight stated that even if the pool house did not create a view impact he
would have concerns with neighborhood compatibility. He also noted that he has
concerns with the bulk and mass of the proposed residence. He stated that when he
takes out the large house at 15 Headland, this project is substantially larger than the
others in the neighborhood. It also noted the 5-12 pitch makes the house stand out on
the street. He pointed out the area of the pool equipment, and requested that if this
project is approved that some type of enclosure be required for the equipment.
Vice Chairman Tetreault asked staff if the pool house were removed from the plan and
the residence was approved and built, could the homeowner then apply to the City to
build the pool house in this location and would that application be an over the counter
,approval.
Director Rojas answered that the applicant could apply to the City for the pool house as
an over the counter approval, but they would have to wait until all final inspections have
been done on the house.
Vice Chairman Tetreault commented that this entire project is a very substantial project
being requested in a neighborhood that is going through a significant change. He
stated he was concerned about the size of the main residence in terms of neighborhood
compatibility.
Chairman Tomblin explained he used neighborhood compatibility in making his
decision, as he agreed with Commissioner Knight's comments. He stated that the
neighborhood compatibility in the Headland area is the openness of the larger lots.
Because this proposed home is so large, and because the proposed pool house is put
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on the lot taking up even more open area on the lot, he felt that the pool house takes
away the neighborhood compatibility of openness, and he was having trouble making
that finding.
Chairman Tomblin re-opened the public hearing.
Don ThuLsb
A appreciated the Commissioner's comments. He pointed out that he
intentionally located the pool equipment in the same area the Wyman's have their pool
equipment, and thought that was a compatible match. He pointed out that they left the
corridor between the master bedroom and the pool house open to ensure the neighbors
maintain the view, but it also diminishes the Engen's privacy. He suggested lowering a
portion of the pool decking and the pool house by one foot to mitigate the neighbor's
concerns.
Commissioner Gerstner moved to approve the project as recommended by staff
with the added condition that the pool house be lowered an additional foot as
suggested by the architect, seconded by Commissioner Tetreault.
Commissioner Knight felt that a condition should be added to the approval requiring
some type of mitigating measure, possibly a wall or an enclosure, in regards to the
noise from the pool equipment.
Commissioner Gerstner amended his motion to include a condition that the noise
from the pool equipment be mitigated in some manner, possibly by a wall or an
enclosure, seconded by Commissioner Tetreault.
Commissioner Knight stated that he could not support the motion because of his issues
with neighborhood compatibility.
Commissioner Tetreault explained that even though he voted against the approval of
the residence at 15 Headland Drive, it was approved by the Commission and built, and
he therefore felt it should be considered when looking at the homes in the
neighborhood. He stated that this is a neighborhood very much in transition, and while
this particular project is a very close call, he felt it was compatible with the
neighborhood. He therefore stated he could favor the motion.
The motion to approve the project as amended, thereby adopting PC Resolution
2011-10 was approved, (3-2) with Commissioners Knight and Emenhiser
dissenting.
5. Height Variation Permit and Site Plan Review (Case No. ZON2010-00343):
27921 Palos Verdes Drive East
Assistant Planner Kim presented the staff report and explained the scope of the project.
She noted that due to heavily sloping nature of the site, the project cannot be seen from
Palos Verdes Drive East and there are no properties immediately in front of it at a
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higher elevation. She noted that although the proposed rotunda entry is unique to Palos
Verdes Drive East, all other proposed architectural features, building materials, and
design elements are found on other neighboring homes. She stated that staff received
thirty three letters of support for this project and three letters of opposition, however of
those three letters one is now in support of the project. She stated that staff feels there
are no view impacts due to the topography of the site, no privacy impacts due to the
setbacks and no proposed east facing windows on the second floor, and staff was able
to make all of the required findings. Therefore, staff was recommending approval of the
project as conditioned in the staff report.
Vice Chairman Tetreault noted that the proposed entry is quite prominent, and that the
Guidelines state that such prominent entries are not favored. He asked staff how they
evaluated the entryway.
Assistant Planner Kim explained that the distance between the existing front fagade and
where the entryway will be located is over fifty feet. Further, the entry feature is towards
the rear of the property and cannot be seen from any public right-of-way or neighbor
residence. Staff felt that, even though the rotunda entry is unique, the entry is not
prominent.
Chairman Tomblin opened the public hearing.
Sherif Khattab stated he is the neighbor to the south of the proposed project and
supports the project. He stated his only concern is his view in front of him is
significantly impacted by the foliage on the applicant's property and the neighboring
property. He asked that a condition be added to the approval that the trees on the
applicant's property be removed.
Kavvon Javid (applicant) stated he was available for questions. He did not think
trimming down the trees would be a problem, as he wanted to be a good neighbor.
Chairman Tomblin closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Knight asked staff if they looked at the balconies when looking at privacy
impacts.
Assistant Planner Kim explained that staff looked at the entire second floor of the
proposed structure. Staff visited 27907 Palos Verdes Drive East and was not able to
see any part of the silhouette except for small little sections between some trees.
Vice Chairman Tetreault moved to approve the project as recommended and
conditioned by staff, seconded by Commissioner Gerstner.
Commissioner Knight noted that this house will be considerably larger than the closest
twenty homes and he had issues with the entry feature. He felt that what may mitigate
this is the fact that the house is so far from the street and can't be seen from the street
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or neighboring properties. However, he did not want the proposed turret to be a design
element that is used as comparison for future developments. He was concerned that
approving the project would be saying the Commission approves that design element.
Commissioner Emenhiser felt that because the house is set so far back from the street
and because it has neighborhood support, that he could support the proposed project.
Commissioner Gerstner stated he supported the project, but strongly recommended that
the applicant have his architect relook at the design of the turret.
Vice Chairman Tetreault agreed this is a prominent entrance and this type of feature
has not been encouraged by the Commission in the past. However, because nobody
but the owner can see this particular feature, he was inclined to vote in favor of the
project. He noted that he would not consider this to be precedence for future
residences because of the unique circumstances.
Chairman Tomblin felt this project was difficult to approve based on neighborhood
compatibility, and he would therefore not vote in favor of the project.
The Commission approved the project as recommended by staff, thereby
adopting PC Resolution 2011-11, (3-2) with Commissioner Knight and Chairman
Tomblin dissenting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
6. Minutes of January 25,_2011
Commissioner Knight referred to agenda item No. 7 and asked that comments he made
regarding solar panel efficiency be added to the minutes.
Vice Chairman Tetreault moved to adopt the minutes as modified, seconded by
Commissioner Emenhiser. Approved, (5-0).
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
7. Pre-Agenda for the meeting on March 8, 2011
The pre-agenda was discussed and approved.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
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