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PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 10,2006
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Knight at 7:08 p.m, at the Fred Hesse
Community Room, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
FLAG SALUTE
Commissioner Lewis led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.
ATTENDANCE
Present: Commissioners Karp, Lewis, Perestam, Ruttenberg, Tetreault, Vice
Chairman Gerstner, and Chairman Knight.
Absent: None
Also present were Director of Planning, Building, and Code Enforcement Rojas, Senior
Planner Schonborn, Senior Planner Alvarez, Associate Planner Dudman, and Assistant
Planner Mikhail.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Planning Commission unanimously agreed to approve the Agenda as presented.
COMMUNICATIONS
Director Rojas distributed one letter of correspondence for Agenda Item No. 4 and two
letters of correspondence for Agenda Item No. 6. He also reported that at the October
Td meeting, the City Council heard the appeal of the Planning Commission's decision
on the non-commercial antenna at City Hall and remanded it back to the Planning
Commission. He also reported that the Planning Commission's denial of the height
variation on Middlecrest Road was appealed to the City Council.
Commissioners Perestarn and Tetreault reported they had met with the new president
of Marymount College but did not discuss the College's proposed project,
COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (regarding non-agenda items)
None
CONSENT CALENDAR
The Planning Commission unanimously agreed to remove the discussion from the
Consent Calendar.
1. Discussion of possible re-zoning of Elkmont Canyon from RS-4 to OH
Director Rojas explained that the applicant did not appeal the Planning Commission's
decision to the City Council, and therefore the Director's decision that there is one legal
lot stands, and for that reason staff does not see any reason to consider a rezoning of
the property,
The Planning Commission unanimously agreed to accept staff's recommendation to
take no action on this item.
CONTINUED BUSINESS
2. Height Variation Permit (Case No. Zon2006-00136): 4941 Blackhorse Road
Senior Planner Schonborn presented the staff report, giving a brief background of the
project. He stated that before the meeting the applicant had conveyed to staff that they
felt all of the items of concern had been sufficiently addressed with the redesign and
were not willing to further modify the project or modify the silhouette. He explained that
staff's recommendation is to review the proposed project as presented at the
September 12t" meeting without the benefit of a modified silhouette and determine
whether the concerns expressed at that meeting have been addressed, and
subsequently adopt a resolution either approving the project or denying the project
without prejudice. He noted that no further extensions can be granted to the Permit
Streamlining Act and the Planning Commission will have to make a decision at this
meeting,
Chairman Knight opened the public hearing.
Scott McGee 4941 Blackhorse Road (applicant) stated that his family has run out of
room in the house that was built in the 1960s and is trying to modernize the house. He
explained that the first time he was before the Planning Commission he knew that
approval was a long-shot, as staff was recommending denial of the project. However,
he had spent so much time working with the architect and the neighbors to create
something that would be acceptable that he wanted to present the design to, the
Planning Commission. He noted that at that meeting the Planning Commission
expressed concerns about the project, and the architect subsequently did a dramatic
redesign of the project to address those concerns. He stated that those changes
resulted in the Planning Department recommending an approval of the project. He
explained that at the second Planning Commission he and his wife were shocked at the
concerns expressed by the Commission, as they were directed more at the size of the
addition, which was not an issue at the first meeting. He stated that he still does not
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understand the concerns regarding the size of the proposed house, as he meets the
criteria in the Code for setbacks and lot coverage. He stated that after the last meeting
he and his wife were shock and confused, as they felt the significant redesign met all of
the concerns expressed by the Planning Commission at the previous meeting. He
stated that he had already spent over $3,500 in flagging the property and did not want
to spend an additional amount, especially not knowing what the Commission was
looking for. He asked the Planning Commission to reconsider their decision and
approve the project,
Chairman Knight closed the public hearing,
Vice Chairman Gerstner stated that he was not at the last hearing and had not had a
chance to review the tape or minutes, and therefore recused himself from hearing this
item.
Commissioner Lewis recalled from the last meeting that several Commissioners had
stated they could not support the project without a re-flagging of the new design, and if it
were re-flagged they might be able to reconsider their decision. He stated that nothing
has changed from the last meeting, and therefore he still could not support the project.
Commissioner Ruttenberg stated that he had requested the project be reflagged in
order to better see what the changes had been. As the applicant chose not to reflag the
property, there isn't the opportunity to better understand the changes. He explained
that the issue for him is the size of the project. He felt that an issue on the peninsula is
mansionization and the way he looks at what is or is not mansionization is to ask what is
the largest one-story home that can be built on the lot. He explained that on this lot,
which is 7,300 square feet and a 50 percent maximum lot coverage, the maximum size
of a single-story home would be 3,650 square feet and any proposal over that number
should be looked at very carefully in terms of mansionization. He stated that the
applicant would have to show him other factors on the lot or with the addition that would
convince him that the addition can be larger than 3,650 square feet in size, and in this
situation he did not see other factors. He did not feel that suggesting to the applicant
that this addition should be a little smaller is not saying they don't have a right to expand
the home considerably, from 2,200 square feet to 3,650 square feet. He did not feel the
property could handle a 4,000 square foot home and therefore could not support the
current proposed project.
Commissioner Karp agreed with Commissioner Ruttenberg's remarks, noting that what
disturbs him is that the Planning Commission gave the applicant an opportunity to prove
their case, and reflaging was an opportunity that they refused to avail themselves of.
He stated that there are no new facts for the Commission to consider since the last
meeting, and it disturbed him to have to vote to deny the project.
Commissioner Tetreault stated that at the last meeting he voted for approval of the
project, noting this is a subjective approval. He did not understand what the applicant
wants of the Planning Commission, as they did not bring anything new to the
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Commission and he did not think the applicant should expect the Planning Commission
to change its mind without any new information being presented. He explained that he
was wrestling with whether to maintain his vote to approve the project or to change his
vote to support the decision of the majority of the Commission.
Commissioner Perestarn stated that he looked forward to a reflagging as well as
landscape plans, and was disappointed that neither was done. He explained that he
had an open mind with regards to the project and the reflagging and landscape plans
could have convinced him to support the project.
Chairman Knight agreed that reflagging the project may have clarified many of his
concerns with the project and was disappointed that it wasn't done. He also agreed that
since no new information was presented to the Planning Commission he would not be
able to change his opinion and approve the project, as it still appeared too bulky and
massive for the lot.
Commissioner Lewis moved to adopt P.C. Resolution 2006-50 thereby denying
the proposed Height Variation without prejudice, seconded by Commissioner
Perestam. Approved, (6-0-1) with Vice Chairman Gerstner recused.
3. Maintenance review for View Restoration Permit No. 161
Senior Planner Alvarez presented the staff report, giving a brief background of the case.
He showed pictures of the property showing the trees and how they have been trimmed.
He explained that staff has had the opportunity to monitor the tree level growth for over
a year and staff recommends the Planning Commission amend the Conditions of
Approval to make it clear that maintenance trimming levels are to be the baseline
photographs of December 2004 and May 2005 and the trees trimmed at two specific
times of the year as well. He also noted that staff was requesting the Planning
Commission add some clean-up language regarding references to replacement trees,
as no trees were replaced.
Commissioner Karp asked if there was any type of agreement between the foliage
owner and the applicants.
Director Rojas explained that whether or not there is an agreement between the parties,
this is a City decision that is captured in Conditions of Approval and staff is asking that
these conditions be modified.
Commissioner Ruttenberg asked why the foliage owner could not at this time remove
the trees if he chose to do so.
Senior Planner Alvarez explained that the removal option was given to the foliage owner
when he was initially given the order to take action against the trees, however he opted
to trim the trees rather than remove them. He stated that the foliage owner can still
remove the trees, however he will not be eligible for replacement foliage.
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Chairman Knight questioned the wording in the Resolution in reference to the
photographs, and suggested staff clarify which photographs were being referenced so
there would not be any confusion in the future.
Staff agreed to add language clarifying which photographs were being referenced, and
add those photographs as an exhibit in the Resolution.
Chairman Knight asked if there is an option for the foliage owner to trim the foliage
down lower than required and only have to trim once a year.
Senior Planner Alvarez answered that the foliage owner can always trim lower than
required in order to avert more frequent trimming.
Chairman Knight noted the language in the Resolution states that the foliage shall be
trimmed on a semi-annual basis, which shows no flexibility.
Chairman Knight opened the public hearing.
Alan Young 7256 Berry Hill Drive stated he supports staff recommendations. He was
very appreciative of staff assigning a month that the trees must be trimmed in, as there
could be a tendency to reset the clock every time the tree is trimmed, even if the tree is
trimmed later than it should have been.
Mike O'Sullivan 30466 Via Cambron distributed photographs to the Planning
Commission for clarification. He asked the Planning Commission to look at this issue
on the basis of the trimming that is required and what is required to eliminate any
significant infringement on the Young's view, feeling that it is very pertinent to determine
whether or not the foliage constitutes a significant impairment of the applicant's view.
He showed photographs of his trees, noting that the Eucalyptus tree could not be seen
from the Young's property 11 months after the initial trimming. He also showed
photographs of the pine tree, stating that it does not block any views.
Commissioner Karp asked Mr. O'Sullivan what he thought, in light of the court hearing
and all of the discussions and appeals, was fair for him to do in regards to trimming the
trees.
Mr. O'Sullivan stated that he has accepted that his trees have been severely cut, but he
would like to salvage something from all of this, adding that he thought that the hearings
were, in some respects, flawed. He stated he would like to see a maintenance
schedule that preserves views but does not unduly limit his ability to have some
beautiful trees.
Chairman Knight asked if it was the trimming schedule he was concerned about or the
level to which the trees have been ordered to be trimmed.
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Mr. O'Sullivan answered it is both. He explained that the schedule of December
trimming is acceptable, however trimming every six months is totally unnecessary. He
also noted that the views that the Youngs have is spectacular.
Vice Chairman Gerstner asked Mr. O'Sullivan if trimming the trees annually in
December would be adequate to preserve the views.
Mr. O'Sullivan answered that trimming once annually would be all that is necessary to
preserve the views. He stated that he would like some relaxation on the height level of
the trees.
Mr. Young (in rebuttal) stated that he is in complete agreement with staff
recommendations. He stated that the Eucalyptus tree has a tremendous growing spurt
in the spring and summer and if the Planning Commission decided on a yearly trimming
schedule, he would like to have the 2-foot trigger put back into the conditions,
Mr. Sullivan stated that he has shown pictures of the Eucalyptus tree 6 months, 8
months, and 11 months after trimming and noted that the tree has not grown
significantly in that time. He stated that requiring trimming every six months costs
money and keeps the tree perpetually misshapen.
Chairman Knight closed the public hearing.
Chairman Knight asked staff if the Planning Commission can consider the established
view lines and view impacts or if the only thing before the Planning Commission is the
maintenance schedule.
Director Rojas explained that the City Council previously determined the level the trees
are to be trimmed to and the Planning Commission tonight is only looking at the
maintenance schedule.
Commissioner Perestam stated that after the initial cutting of a pine tree it may take a
year or two before it begins to fill in and grow, and therefore an annual trim on the pine
tree will work effectively. He felt that the Eucalyptus tree is more difficult, but felt it was
probably more effective to require it be trimmed every six months to keep the trimming
managed, even if it is only a very small amount that is trimmed.
Commissioner Tetreault stated he was inclined to follow the staff's recommendation for
both trees just to make sure things are done properly per the Resolution.
Vice Chairman Gerstner stated he could be convinced that an annual schedule might be
adequate, however because of the difficultly of having the trees trimmed and the effort
that has gone into this, he was inclined to agree with staffs recommendations,
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Commissioner Karp also agreed with staff's recommendations, stating that a more
ambiguous schedule would only cause problems that would come before the Planning
Commission or City Council again.
Commissioners Lewis and Ruttenberg agreed with staff's recommendations.
Chairman Knight stated the trimming schedule is a result of a long process of trying
other processes that have not worked. He felt the proposed schedule was satisfactory
and agreed with staff's recommendations.
Commissioner Ruttenberg moved to adopt P.C. Resolution 2006-51 thereby
approving staff recommendation to amend the Conditions of Approval contained
in City council Resolution No. 2004-63 in order to clarify the maintenance
schedule requirements for two trees located on the property at 30466 Via
Cambron, as presented by staff. Seconded by Commissioner Tetreault.
Approved, (7-0).
RECESS AND RECONVENE
At 8:30 p.m. the Planning Commission took a short recess until 8:40 p.m. at which time
they reconvened.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
4. Height Variation Permit (Case No. ZON2004-00571): 1946 Upland Street
Associate Planner Dudman presented the staff report explaining the scope of the
project and the need for the Height Variation. She explained that the only property in
the neighborhood that has a view is at 29419 Bayend Drive, however staff determined
that the proposed project would not significantly impair the view. She showed several
photographs of homes in the immediate neighborhood, and noted that the proposed
addition would result in a home that is more than 70 percent larger the largest size
home that currently exists in the neighborhood. Therefore, staff could not find that the
proposed addition would be compatible with the immediate neighborhood. She stated
that although staff could not make the findings regarding neighborhood compatibility in
terms of size and bulk and mass, staff believes the applicant did make an effort to
revise the project to address staff's concerns, however staff was still recommending
denial of the proposed project.
Commissioner Lewis asked staff if there could be a less ambitious two-story addition in
the neighborhood that staff would support.
Associate Planner Dudman explained that there are other two-story homes in the
neighborhood, however they were approved before the City was incorporated.
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Director Rojas added that staff may be able to support a scaled back two-story addition
at this site, as the view impacts are minimal.
Chairman Knight asked staff if they had done a privacy analysis from the two balconies
at the rear of the proposed addition.
Associate Planner Dudman explained that there is already a privacy infringement to the
neighboring residence at 1938 Upland from the existing by-right 16-foot structure. She
noted there is currently no foliage between the two properties.
Chairman Knight opened the public hearing.
Jerry Rodin 29000 Western Ave (architect) stated that staff has supported all issues of
the project except the mass and bulk. He stated that this neighborhood has not
changed in quite a long time, and he is aware of the concerns of the neighbors. He
showed several 3-D renderings of the proposed house, noting that the height of the
structure is as low as he can possibly legally make it. Regarding the balcony in the
rear, he stated that he can add screening that will prevent the owners from being able to
look down into the neighboring property, noting however that the terracing of the
properties allows for views into the neighboring yards. He showed several pictures of
house in the Eastview neighborhood that are two-story, noting however that they look
like two-story boxes with little or no articulation.
Commissioner Lewis complimented Mr. Rodin on his renderings, however he asked Mr.
Rodin if he felt that special attention has been given to the scale and mass of the
proposed residence, as required by the Code.
Mr. Rodin felt that he had addressed the scale, bulk, and mass issues, however noted
that if the Planning Commission felt it needed further attention he would further address
the issues.
Commissioner Karp asked Mr. Rodin if the homeowners had considered and looked in
to expanding their home on grade and not go up to a second story.
Mr. Rodin explained that the owners are planning on building a swimming pool in the
backyard. Because of that, he tried to reduce the footprint of the property in respect to
the slope in the back. He noted that the proposed second story is proposed over the
footprint of the existing residence. He also explained that he has added a three-car
garage to help mitigate the parking issues on the street, noting it takes away square
footage that can be used for a bedroom or an office on the first level.
Commissioner Karp asked, if the pool were not built, if an addition can be added on
grade.
Mr. Rodin answered that it was possible to design an addition on grade.
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Chairman Knight asked Mr. Rodin to clarify if the retaining walls on the plans are
existing or if they will be new walls.
Mr. Rodin answered that the retaining walls shown on the plans are existing and are
actually on the neighboring properties.
Ali Mori (owner) stated that he and his family are not currently living in the house and
are very anxious to have the house addition so they can move in,
Commissioner Karp asked Mr. Mori how important the swimming pool is to him, as the
Planning Commission may be more willing to approve a project that is on grade rather
than two-story,
Mr. Mori answered that it is as important to him as having a wife or not, as his wife will
not move into the house without a swimming pool.
Declan Rushe 1947 Upland Street stated that his home is directly across the street from
the applicant's home. He stated that his main objection to the project is neighborhood
compatibility, as the majority of the homes in the neighborhood are single story. He
also objected to the proposed increase in size, as he felt it would result in a
disproportionately larger house. He also objected to the proposed high frontage of the
home that would have a privacy impact to his home.
Chairman Knight asked Mr. Rushe to clarify how this proposed addition would impact
his privacy.
Mr. Rushe explained that the top windows of the addition would look straight across into
his front den and kitchen areas.
Wayne Franklin 1966 Upland Street stated the houses in the neighborhood are all three
bedrooms with a two-car garage and the proposed residence will be double that size
and look out of place. He stated that the architect visited his home and commented that
the proposed addition might block a portion of his view.
Claudia McCulloch 29441 Bayend Drive felt the home is a thoughtful and tasteful design
and is consistent with the eclectic community. She felt there will always be smaller
homes on smaller lots, however there is now a trend in the neighborhood of families
with younger children, and the design reflects the recent dynamic revitalization of the
community. She enthusiastically supported the proposed addition.
Doris Nagy 1954 Upland Street stated her home is next door to the proposed addition.
She stated that the full height of the addition is next to her house and will obstruct the
light and air into her house. She felt the windows on the upper floor will look directly
into her kitchen and dining room, and objected to the construction. She did not think the
project fit into the neighborhood.
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Jerry Rodin (in rebuttal) stated that he was at 1966 Upland and displayed a picture
taken from that residence which he felt clearly showed that there was no view
impairment from the proposed addition. He also explained that because of the low pitch
of the roof design, he did not feel there would be an issue of light and air to the neighbor
at 1954 Upland Street, In reference to the neighbor across the street, he explained that
he did not know how he could mitigate the windows to not infringe on the possible
privacy issues of the neighbor across the street, but he would be willing to work with the
neighbor.
Chairman Knight closed the public hearing.
Chairman Knight asked staff if the Code addresses privacy impacts to neighbors who
live across the street from a proposed project.
Director Rojas explained that the language of the Code states that privacy impacts will
considered from abutting properties.
Chairman Knight asked staff which windows on the project will be looking into the
property next door at 1954 Upland.
Associate Planner Dudman answered that it will be the master bathroom windows that
will look down on the neighbor's property, however this could be mitigated with some
type of frosted glass or window treatment.
Commissioner Karp asked if the slope behind the house was an extreme slope or was it
a buildable slope,
Director Rojas answered that it is not considered an extreme slope and is buildable in
the sense that the Code does not prohibit pools or structures on the slope, however a
grading application would be required.
Commissioner Lewis stated that he agrees with the staff report with respect to views
and privacy as well as the compatibility issues. He did not think this would be a
monstrous home and was a good effort in terms of architectural style, but felt it could be
scaled back to a less ambitious more compatible design.
Commissioner Ruttenberg stated that 4,000 square feet of the 11,000 square foot lot
are in the canyon and the design of the home appears to be driven by the desire for a
swimming pool. He felt more consideration should be made in regards to building this
home on grade. He also noted that the existing two-story homes in the neighborhood
mentioned by the architect are considerably smaller than this proposed home. He
stated that his issue has to do with the bulk, mass and size of the home.
Commissioner Karp realized the community is changing and new and bigger houses are
being built, and it is to the benefit of the City to have a newer structure to be built on the
property. However, he was concerned that his physical inspection of the property did
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not coincide with the civil engineering drawing. He also felt the swimming pool was an
issue, as he felt the existing house could be expanded on grade to meet the needs of
the owners. He supported the three-car garage and felt that the design of the project is
contemporary and refreshing. He stated he is concerned about the bulk and mass of
the proposed house and would be more strongly in favor of a one-story house on the
property.
Vice Chairman Gerstner felt this was a case of too much too fast, explaining that
Eastview is an area that can support such a house however it can't transition
immediately to a house this size. He felt that this house is not compatible with the
single story houses in the neighborhood at the present time. He felt that parts of the
design tend to make the house look more bulky and massive and that there are things
that can be done to make the house more compatible with the neighborhood. He felt
that the house is quite large relative to the neighborhood and in this instances the size
shows. He stated that he does not object to the house in terms of size, but rather
compatibility, as the design of the house can be changed to hide the bulk and mass.
Commissioner Tetreault discussed neighborhood compatibility, noting that the
Guidelines direct that the proposed structure be compared to the 20 closest homes in
the neighborhood and not what has happened in other surrounding neighborhoods in
the City. He therefore felt very constrained as to what the Planning Commission can
permit in a given neighborhood. He agreed with the Vice Chairman that this project
may be too much too fast for this neighborhood. He explained that allowing this size
home to be built will be establishing a baseline that others in the neighborhood can then
point to and say they want a similar house at a similar or slightly larger size. He stated
that this is a beautiful design that would be compatible in many other communities in the
City, however he did not feel it was compatible in this particular community. He felt the
house would be disproportionate to others in the neighborhood in terms of size and
scale.
Commissioner Perestarn agreed that the proposed house would be too large for the
neighborhood. He stated that he is not against a two-story home in the neighborhood.
He felt that taking the vegetation away from the home will significantly add to the mass
and bulk of the house, noting that some of the mass and bulk could possibly be hidden
by well-placed vegetation.
Chairman Knight agreed that this project was too bulky and massive for the
neighborhood, noting that the three-car garage and the second story over it appeared
very massive from the street.
Commissioner Perestarn moved to deny the proposed Height Variation without
prejudice, seconded by Commissioner Lewis.
Commissioner Lewis suggested the Commission discuss the view and privacy impacts,
if any, so that the architect can address those issues when considering the redesign of
the project.
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Commissioner Tetreault stated that his problem was with mass and bulk, and that he
would rather see a redesign before he discusses any privacy or view issues.
Commissioners Perestarn and Ruttenberg asked that the public hearing be reopened to
allow the architect an opportunity to respond to what the Planning Commission has
discussed.
Chairman Knight re-opened the public hearing.
Jerry Rodin (architect) stated that he could keep the front portion of the house at a
single story, which would address the streetscape, and push the second story addition
back away from the street. He stated that will take away about 900 square feet of mass
from the front of the house. He noted that the area in the back of the residence is a
canyon, and he was concerned with soil stability in that area.
Commissioner Tetreault asked Mr. Rodin if he would prefer the current motion of deny
without prejudice or to continue the public hearing to allow him time to redesign the
project to address the Planning Commission's concerns.
Mr. Rodin answered that he would prefer a continuance.
Commissioner Karp asked Mr. Rodin if his client would consent to a 90-day extension
per the Permit Streamlining Act.
Mr, Rodin answered that his client will absolutely agree to the extension, and will follow
that request up with a letter,
Chairman Knight closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Perestarn withdrew his motion and Commissioner Lewis withdrew
his second to the motion.
Commissioner Tetreault moved to continue the public hearing to the November
28, 2006 Planning Commission meeting to allow the architect to redesign the
proposed project to address the concerns of the Planning Commission,
seconded by Commissioner Lewis.
Director Rojas asked the Planning Commission if they would like the new design to be
re-silhouetted.
The Planning Commission agreed that a new silhouette should be requested.
The motion to continue the public hearing to November 28, 2006 was approved,
(7-0).
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5. Height Variation Permit Case No. ZON2006-00348: 1808 Velez Drive
Assistant Planner Mikhail presented the staff report, explaining the scope of the project
and the need for the Height Variation. She explained that staff was able to make the
necessary findings to support the height variation and was recommending approval of
the project, as conditioned.
Commissioner Tetreault noted that there is currently a cargo container in the driveway
at this residence, and asked if that cargo container was permitted.
Director Rojas answered that the Building Official allows cargo containers at a site
during construction if there is an active permit. He stated that staff would research to
see if there is an open building permit and if the cargo container is there legally.
Chairman Knight asked staff to clarify which windows staff was recommending be
clearstory to mitigate privacy issues.
Assistant Planner Mikhail showed on a photograph the windows on the east side of the
second story the windows that are being recommended to be clearstory.
Chairman Knight opened the public hearing.
Kristi Skelton 27041 Whitestone Drive (architect) stated that she worked with the
neighbors prior to submitting the application to design an addition that would be
pleasing to the owners and neighbors. She felt the two-story addition was situated in
such a way as to be as unobtrusive as possible.
Chairman Knight asked Ms. Skelton if the style of the home was a California Craftsman
type.
Ms. Skelton answered that it is a Craftsman style.
Kate Gregory 1808 Velez Drive (owner) stated that she has worked closely with her
neighbors, as she has good relationships with the neighbors. She stated that she has
had a good response to this addition from the neighbors and was available for any
questions.
Chairman Knight closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Perestarn stated that this is an example of what can be done with a
second story addition in a neighborhood of mostly single story homes to make it
compatible with the neighborhood. He discussed the City tree at the property and
suggested it be trimmed only to the extent needed to construct the addition, as it helps
soften the addition from the street.
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Commissioner Tetreault agreed with the staff's recommendations and supported the
project.
Vice Gerstner was pleased with the proposed addition and agreed with staff's
recommendations, as did Commissioners Karp, Ruttenberg, and Lewis.
Chairman Knight felt this was a good example of neighborhood compatibility and how to
hide a second story addition in terms of bulk and mass. He was concerned with the
tower in the front and would prefer it be pushed back slightly.
Commissioner Karp moved to adopt P.C. Resolution 2006-52 thereby approving
the proposed Height 'Variation as presented by staff, seconded by Commissioner
Tetreault. Approved, (7-0).
6. Conditional Use Permit & Grading Permit (Case No. ZON2005-00393: 27501
Western Avenue
Commissioner Tetreault moved to waive the reading of the staff report, seconded
by Commissioner Karp, and unanimously agreed to by the Commission.
Chairman Knight asked if the mock-ups for all 12 antennas were at the site.
Senior Planner Schonborn answered that there are mock-ups for all 12 antennas at the
site.
Chairman Knight asked if an updated master plan was submitted to the City with this
application.
Senior Planner Schonborn answered that an updated master plan was submitted to the
City and included in the Commissioner's packets.
Chairman Knight opened the public hearing.
William Bennett 12900 Park Plaza Drive, Cerritos (representing Cingular Wireless) felt
that the design and staff report speak to the issues of hiding and camouflaging this
facility and from the public's perspective it almost becomes of an invisible nature. He
felt this proposal was a win win situation for the residents of the City, noting that
Cingular has been very careful in working with staff to design something that will be
almost invisible to the people in the area.
Chairman Knight noted that the mock-ups are very well screened from the public street,
however from the area around the mausoleum they are more visible, and asked Mr.
Bennett if he would be open to additional screening so that the antennas that are less
exposed.
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Mr. Bennett answered that the general public will not see the antennas and felt that the
people at the cemetery for services will be looking at the antennas. He explained that
the antennas were not screened purposely because they did not think it would be
necessary, but would be willing to screen them if requested by the Planning
Commission.
Chairman Knight closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Ruttenberg did not feel the additional screening of the antennas was
necessary, and were acceptable as currently proposed.
Commissioner Karp moved to adopt P.C. Resolution 2006-53 thereby approving
the Conditional Use Permit revision as recommended by staff, seconded by Vice
Chairman Gerstner. Approved, (7-0).
7. Variance Permit, Lot Line Adjustment, and Site Plan Review (Case No.
ZQN2005-001811 & SU132005-00001): 30543 Santa Luna Drive
It being after 11:00, Commissioner Lewis moved to suspend the Planning
Commission rules and hear the new business after 11:00, seconded by
Commissioner Tetreault, and unanimously approved.
Commissioners Ruttenberg and Perestarn recused themselves from this item, as they
both live within 500 feet from the residence.
Senior Planner Schonborn presented the staff report, explaining the scope of the project
and the need for the applications. He stated that staff felt that the Variance application
is warranted, as a portion of the pool and equipment were installed on a neighboring
property inadvertently, and that is an exceptional circumstance. He stated that the Lot
Line Adjustment will not result in any new non-conformity and staff is recommending
approval of the Variance and Lot Line Adjustment.
Commissioner Tetreault asked if this was before the Planning Commission because the
Lot Line Adjustment will decrease the lot size on a non-conforming lot.
Senior Planner Schonborn answered that was correct.
Chairman Knight opened the public hearing.
Pat Mathison 30543 Santa Luna Drive (applicant) stated this is an issue that has been
existence for quite a while and he would like to make it right and is available for
questions.
There being no questions, Chairman Knight closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Lewis stated he fully supported the application.
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Commissioner Karp also supported the application, cautioning the applicant and
neighbor that there may be problems with their Deeds of Trust on the property and
strongly encouraging them to talk to a real estate attorney or their lender.
Commissioner Tetreault and Vice Chairman Gerstner stated they were in favor of the
application, as was Chairman Knight.
Commissioner Lewis moved to adopt P.C. Resolution 2006-54 thereby approving
the Variance and Lot Line Adjustment as recommended by staff, seconded by
Commissioner Tetreault. Approved, (5-0-2) with Commissioners Ruttenberg and
Perestarn recused.
NEW BUSINESS
8. Report on the Anderson Initiative (Proposition 90)
Commissioner Ruttenberg moved to suspend the Planning Commission Rules
and hear Agenda Items 8, 9, 10, and 1'I seconded by Commissioner Karp.
Unanimously approved.
Director Rojas presented the staff report, briefly explaining that this is an informational
item only and noted that the concerns raised by the League of California Cities and the
City Attorney's office are included in the Planning Commission packets.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
9. Minutes of August 22, 2006
Vice Chairman Gerstner noted a typo on page 5 of the minutes.
Chairman Knight noted a clarification on page 14 of the minutes.
Commissioner Ruttenberg moved to approve the minutes as amended, seconded
by Vice Chairman Gerstner. Approved, (6-0-1) with Commissioner Tetreault
recused as he was absent from that meeting.
10. Minutes of September 12,2006
Chairman Knight noted a clarification on page 14 of the minutes.
Commissioner Tetreault moved to approve the minutes as amended, seconded by
Commissioner Karp. Approved, (7-0).
ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE AGENDAS
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11. Pre-agenda for the meeting of October 24, 2006
Director Rojas noted he would not be at the October 24 In meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:28 p.m.
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