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RDA MINS 19870930 ADJ M I N U T E S RANCHO PALOS VERDES REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING II/ September 30, 1987 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Hughes , at Fred Hesse Community Park, 29 301 Hawthorne Boulevard, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on file. PRESENT: BACHARACH, RYAN, McTAGGART, HINCHLIFFE, AND CHAIRMAN HUGHES Also present were Executive Director Dennis McDuffie, Public Works Director George Wentz, Finance Director Kevin N. Smith, Environmental Services Director Robert Benard, and Acting City Attorney Quinn M. Barrow. RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION The meeting immediately recessed to AND RECONVENE a closed session to discuss nego- tiations of property. At 8:05 PM the Board reconvened and the Agency Attorney announced that the discussion concerned 10 Cherry Hill Lane and that no action had been taken. PUBLIC HEARING APPROVAL OF PHASE 2 - Director McDuffie reviewed the PORTUGUESE BEND LANDSLIDE staff report, explaining that the PROJECT major components of the project are the relocation of Palos Verdes Drive South, additional grading, and the construction of certain drainage facilities. He said by completing Phase 2 this year, prior to heavy rains, the efforts to stop and control the remaining slide movement would have a much greater change of success. Dr. Perry Ehlig summarized the past year' s achievements and said the City has made excellent progress towards slowing the landslide. He made a slide presentation and said what has not completely stopped is now moving about one-third as fast as last year. He reviewed the Phase 1 stabilizing project and presented graphs , charts , and photographs. He noted that the dewatering wells have been very effective in stopping the slide in the Abalone Cove area. He discussed the use of monitoring stations to establish movement and said the rates of movement will depend on the amount of rainfall. 710CP/RDARM: - 1 - September 30, 1987 In response to questions, Dr. Ehlig said he did not see any relation between the fissures in the bank of the Crenshaw extension and the Abalone Cove or Portuguese Bend landslides , but would look for evidence of movement. Director McDuffie explained the public hearing steps and review process. He said this evening the Agency was considering Phase '2 of the Portuguese Bend landslide project and the proposed grading, drainage and road reloca- tin. He said the Agency will also consider certification of the environmen- tal impact report (EIR) at its meeting of November 4. He said the panel' s geological review is scheduled for October 16. The public hearing was declared open by Chairman Hughes. Al Edgerton, 59 Oceannaire Drive, directly above the slide area, expressed concern that stabilizing the slide area may destabilize his area and requested monitoring of the upper area. Dr. Ehlig said nothing was being done which would destabilize the upper area. John Lessing, 2104 Via Pacheco, Palos Verdes Estates , owner of property in the slide area, said he believed Palos Verdes Drive South is to be relo- cated right through the middle of his lot. Andrew Sargent, 19 Narcissa Drive, expressed concern about using a volunteer panel of geological experts and preferred that they work professionally for the City and be paid. He questioned the road relocation and the cut and fill required if it is being done for traffic and safety reasons. Member Bacharach said the 15-16 geologists fly in from all over California and are professional people donating their time to the City. Chairman Hughes said Dr. Ehlig is the City' s paid geologist and that the panel of experts is not asking for compensation for their services in reviewing Dr. Ehlig' s work. • Jeanne Smolley, 56 Limetree Lane, said there are a series of depressions in the area of the water tank and requested the technical committee members examine the area and submit a response. She opposed the Phase 2 grading. D. E. Clarke, 10 Peppertree Drive, also expressed concern about moement in the area of the water tank. She said there is also a crack in her driveway. Sunshine, 6 Limetree Lane, was concerned that movement in the last six months appears different. She suggested holding off on the project. Dr. Ehlig said doing nothing is a much greater risk because a severe rain- fall will impact every area that is prone to land sliding. 710CP/RDARM: - 2 - September 30, 1987 Charles Himelwright, 21 Kumquat Lane, Portuguese Bend Homeowners Association, said the Cherryhill loop is not stable, that it is moving. Dr. Ehlig said there is a survey monument at the west bend of the Cherry hill loop which shows the movement has slowed down greatly over the last three years. Bob Smolley, 56 Limetree Lane, asked: 1) the probability of the project' s success; 2) the impact of moving the dirt in a positive or negative way; 3) the impact on the project if the existing right-of-way of Palos Verdes Drive South is adequately drained; and 4) any reason why Palos Verdes Drive South in its existing location could not be adequately drained if regraded. Dr. Ehlig said the project has a good chance of stopping all movement ups lope within two to three years. He said they will still have to continue to pump, which will take longer if it is rainy. He said the movement of 500,000 cubic yards of dirt would give immediate relief. Arnold Graham, attorney representing several property owners , said he: 1) disagreed that no EIR is required for tonight' s public hearing; 2) disagreed about the street right-of-way; 3) questioned the liability of the City; and 4) questions the wisdom and judgement of the proposed realignment of Palos Verdes Drive South. At 10:08 PM a brief recess was called. The meeting reconvened at 10:20 PM with the same members present. Robert McJones, 1 Limetree Lane, said the relocation of the road would impact the community. He said there should be a formal analysis of all options , including leaving it where it is , along with a cost analysis in terms of drainage, slide stability, etc. Kay Bara, 1 Peppertree Drive, expressed concern about the movement of dirt and the unpaid panel of experts. She suggested that a panel of people from her neighborhood work with the experts. Justin McJones , 3 Tangerine Road, expressed concern about realignment of the road and about the movement of dirt. Bob Stark, 49 Cherryhill Lane, Asked about: 1) saving the road where it exists; 2) putting the road in the undeveloped area above the slide; and 3) considering plastic covering over the open fields since water is the problem. Tony Cunningham, 8 Cherryhill Lane, expressed concern about relocating the road and suggested waiting until the slide has slowed enough. 710CP/RDARM: - 3 - September 30, 1987 Chairman Hughes said the movement of dirt is proposed for the purpose of removing pressure,ressure removing the driving force, and slowing down the landslide. g Lois Knight LaRue, 3136 Barkentine, said she went up on Crenshaw and observed the slide that the citizens are concerned about. She also expressed concern about the road relocation. Joseph McLaren, 3923 Palos Verdes Drive South, had several questions regarding the water and the cost of the road. Member Bacharach moved, seconded by Member McTaggar t, and, with no objec- tion, so ordered, to continue the public hearing to November 4, 1987 , when taking up the EIR on the project. Member McTaggart r McTa art moved, seconded by Member Bacharach, and unanimously carried to have Dr. Ehlig review all material presented tonight, including , photographs presented and the ma resented by Mrs. Smolley, and conduct an investiga- tion of the recently discovered landslide. In response trecommended uestions, Dr. Ehlig recommended drilling a hole slightly p onse downslope a from the fissure into good solid bedrock and monitoring it to whether the ground is slipping in that area. He also recommended determine g y that it be looked at by the technical committee, and said the boring could take place lace before their meeting of October 16. He said the survey monument shows no evidence of movement and that he would look at the area before beginning exploratory work. Membe r McTaggart moved, seconded by Member Bacharach, to ask Dr. Ehlig to investigate as an urgent matter,, the evidence brought forward tonight, at a , cost not to exceed $10,000 and to respond at the next Agency meeting whether or not action is needed. AYES: BACHARACH, McTAGGART and CHAIRMAN HUGHES NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE ABSTAIN: HINCHLIFFE, RYAN CONTINUED BUSINESS RESOLUTION ADOPTING A RELOCATION City Manager McDuffie reviewed the & ADOPTING TING RULES & REGULATIONS staff report, explaining that apple- RELATIVE TO RELOCATION ASSIS - cable law requires the adoption of a Q TANCE AND ACQUISITION OF REAL relocation plan and guidelines prior PROPERTY to displacing any persons in connection with the acquisition of real property by the Agency. 710CP RDARM: - 4 - September 30 , 1987 Acting City Attorney Barrow said state relocation guidelines adopted in 1976 set forth definite rules as to when people are considered displaced persons and entitled to relocation assistance. Member Bacharach requested a copy of the State Law. Member Bacharach moved, seconded by Member Hinchliffe, and unanimously carried, to waive further reading and adopt by title only a resolution entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADOPTING A RELOCATION PLAN AND ADOPTING RULES AND REGULATIONS RELATIVE TO RELOCATION ASSISTANCE AND ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY". HEARING REGARDING THE NECESSITY It was noted that this item was con- FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE FEE tinued to the meeting of November 4, SIMPLE INTEREST IN CERTAIN 1987. PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA HIRING OF RELOCATION Director McDuf f ie reviewed the CONSULTANT staff report, noting that the firm of Port and Flor have been recommended to service as relocation consultants. Member Bacharach moved, seconded by Member McTaggar t, to retain the firm of Port and Flor as relocation consultants in an amount not to exceed $10,000. AYES: BACHARACH, McTAGGART, and CHAIRMAN HUGHES NOES: NONE ABSENT: NONE ABSTAIN: RYAN, HINCHLIFFE AUDIENCE QUESTIONS - NONE ADJOURNMENT By motion of Member Bacharach, seconded by Member Hinchliffe, the meeting was so ordered adjourned at 11 :33 P.M. //46►4 � Chairma• ATTEST: )0°F - As, . _t. City Clerk 710CP/RDARM: - 5 - September 30, 1987