CC MINS 19881101M I N U T E S
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 1, 1988
The meeting was called to order at 7.-54 P.M. by Mayor Robert
E. Ryan at Hesse Park Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne Blvd.
Roll call was answered as follows.
PRESENT.* BACHARACH, McTAGGART, HUGHES, HINCHLIFFE
AND MAYOR RYAN
Also present were City Manager Dennis McDuffie, City Attorney
Steve Dorsey, Director of Environmental Services Robert
Benard, Public Works Director George Wentz, City Clerk Jo
Purcell and Finance Director Kevin Smith.
CEREMONIAL MATTER Mayor Ryan presented a
(304) Ceremonial Proclamation to
visiting students from the
LICEO SCIENTIFICO di MAIORANA, LATINA, ITALY, in recogni-
tion of their enthusiastic participation and dedication as
members of the Student Exchange Program.
WAIVER OF FULL READINGS Councilman Hughes moved,
ORDINANCES & RESOLUTIONS seconded by Councilman
Hinchliffe and carried, to
waive reading in full of all ordinances and resolutions
adopted at this meeting with consent to the waiver of reading
deemed to be given by all councilmembers after reading of the
title, unless specific request was made at that time for the
reading of such ordinance or resolution.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA After addition of two
items, Council review of
Planning issues and the Blythewood project, the agenda was
approved on motion of Councilwoman Bacharach, seconded by
Councilman Hinchliffe and carried.
CONSENT CALENDAR The consent calendar was
amended to remove the Street
Tree Policy to be discussed as the first item of business.
The Consent Calendar as amended as approved as follows on
motion of Councilman Hughes, seconded by Councilman
Hinchliffe and carried.
MINUTES Approved the minutes of October
4th adjourned meeting, October
4th regular meeting, October 14 and 15th adjourned regular
meetings and October 18, 1988 regular meeting.
PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACT Approved the employment of
SERVICES AND REQUEST FOR Byron Woosley for consulting
PROPOSAL PREPARATION services for the Public Works
(1204) contract and request for
proposal (RFP) for a sum not to
exceed $10,000 from the General Fund Reserves.
NANCY ROAD UTILITY ADOPTED RESOL. N09 88 -63
UNDERGROUNDING DISTRICT INSTITUTING PROCEEDINGS,
RESOL. NO. 88 -63 (901) AND DIRECTING PREPARATION OF
A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION FOR
THE CONVERSION OF EXISTING OVERHEAD ELECTRIC AND
COMMUNICATION FACILITIES IN THE AREA BOUND BY NANCY ROAD,
LORRAINE ROAD AND MIRALESTE DRIVE, AND OTHER RIGHTS -OF -WAY.
SLOPE EASEMENT VACATION Approved vacating that portion
LOCATION - 2443 SUNNYSIDE of the slope easement for
RIDGE ROAD (450) Narbonne Avenue located within
the Southerly 180 feet of Lot
21, Tract No. 20429, within the City of Rancho Palos Verdes.
NATIONAL LEGAL INSTITUTE Authorized the Recreation &
(1201) Parks Director's attendance at
the National Legal Institute in
Chicago, Ill. on December 7 & 8, 1988.
APPROVAL OF HANDICAPPED (1) Accepted the work as
PARKING LOT AT RANCHO PALOS complete for the handicapped
VERDES PARK. (1201) parking lot at RPV in the
amount of $16,109.45. (2)
Directed the City Clerk to file a Notice of Completion and
notify the Surety to exonerate the contract bonds; (3)
Directed the Finance Director to release the retention 30
days after the notice has been recorded if no claims have
been filed against the contractor during that period.
TRACT NO. 44515 - REDUCTION Approved a reduction in the
OF BOND SECURITY REQUIREMENT bond security requirements from
(1411) $3,448.073 to $1,241,600.
1989 HOLIDAY SCHEDULE Adopted the recommended.
(1202) schedule for 1989.
RADAR SPEED STUDIES FOR ADOPTED RESOL. No. 88 -64
CERTAIN STREETS - RESOL. ESTABLISHING SPEED LIMITS ON
NO. 88 -64 (1502) VARIOUS STREET WITHIN THE CITY
AND DIRECTED THE CITY CLERK TO
SEND CERTIFIED COPIES TO THE SHERIFF'S STATION.
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COMMUTER TRANSPORTATION Authorized the Mayor and City
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN (CTIP) Clerk to sign an agreement with
(1505) the City of Torrance (Lead
Agency) and member cities for
the implementation and administration of CTIP.
RESOLUTION NO. 88 -65 ADOPTED RESOLUTION N0. 88 -65
REGISTER OF DEMANDS ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS
FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE
PAID.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the
following roll call vote:
AYES. BACHARACH, McTAGGART, HUGHES, HINCHLIFFE AND
MAYOR RYAN
NOES: NONE
STREET TREE POLICY (1407) Albert Schoenfield, 6502 Verde
Ridge Road, inquired about the
effect of this tree policy on trees in Hesse Park that block
his view. It was his contention that the approved land-
scaping plan had not been followed and that trees substituted
in that plan were blocking his view. Additionally, he
inquired about who would bear the cost for removing these
trees. It was the consensus that Mr. Schoenfield should
provide the City Manager with a copy of the 1982 landscaping
plan and that perhaps an amendment to the policy should be
made to address cases of trees in City parks that block view.
Councilman Hughes moved, seconded by Counc
adopt the recommended policy regarding the
moval of street trees for view protection.
carried unanimously. It was the consensus
prepare a fee schedule for adoption at the
meeting.
ilman McTaggart to
pruning and/or re-
The motion
that staff would
November 15, 1988
VARIANCE No. 189 APPEAL - Mayor Ryan reminded the
100 VANDERLIP DRIVE (1804) audience that this was a
continued public hearing and
that the testimony should be limited to changes made in the
conditions only and not on the merits of the project.
Council then proceeded to discuss the conditions of approval
for the proposed resolution: in particular they were
concerned about the following issues: the scale for the
required site plan and whether the photograph proposed to be
used for its preparation was adequate. It was concluded that
since the survey would be performed by a licensed surveyor
that it would determined by the surveyor if that photograph
was adequate for preparation of the site plan.
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Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman
McTaggart and carried that condition No. 12 should be changed
as follows,
12. Submit a surveyed dimensioned site plan at a scale of
ill= 50 ft.. approved by a licensed surveyor or civil
engineer, showing all structures and property lines,
within 90 days of variance approval.
The next item of concern was the requirement for roof
gutters: since they have been required on other projects in
this area it was the consensus that the final resolution
contain a requirement for roof gutters.
John Vanderlip, 99 Vanderlip Drive, presented pictures of
screens and fencing adjacent to Unit #6 on this property and
again expressed his opposition to the seven foot wall.
Discussion followed on Condition No. 10. and whether that
required the wall to be brought into conformance or if it
allowed the applicant to get a variance to maintain it at
its present height. The City Attorney opined that there was
no relief from that condition and indeed the wall would have
to be brought into conformity with the building code.
Speaking in support of the Vanderlip Estate were the
following residents of the area: Mary Louise Robinson, 100
Vanderlip Drive* Eileen O'Donnell* Steven Traugh, 100
Vanderlip Drive; and Betty Field, 10 West Pomegranate. These
speakers talked about the uniqueness of the estate and in
particular about the staircases in some of the cottages.
They also recommended that the seven foot wall remain and
described its necessity in maintaining security for the area.
Speaking in opposition to the wall was Suzanne Vanderlip, 99
Vanderlip Drive, who questioned if it was essential for
security.
The applicant in this matter, Mrs. Elin Vanderlip, 100
Vanderlip Drive, reiterated the necessity of the wall for
security reasons and requested that the kitchen in the
gardener's quarters be allowed to stay,
Councilman Hinchliffe moved, seconded by Councilman Hughes
and carried to close the public hearing.
Council discussion then ensued regarding the procedure
whereby the wall would be brought into conformance and
reduced to 42 inches with allowable extension to 6 foot
provided it was 90% light and air.
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It was the consensus that item No. 10 of the conditions be
amended to read as follows:
10. Bring the wall opposite 99 Vanderlip Drive into
compliance with all applicable Building and Development Code
provisions or apply for a Minor Exception Permit
within 90 days of the variance approval. If the Minor
Exception Permit is denied the applicant shall bring the wall
into compliance with all applicable building and Development
Code provisions within 90 days of said denial.
Discussion then resumed regarding the uniqueness of the
staircases and how other jurisdictions adjudicate such
issues. The suggestion was made that perhaps the City could
form an appeal board which would be composed of licensed
contractors, architects and other individuals who have
experience in the building field to determine if features
such as this staircase could be sanctioned by the City. The
City Attorney opined that such a board could be established
and that the staircase could be considered by them for relief
from the Building Code.
Considering the extent of the changes made to the proposed
conditions of approval, it was the consensus that staff
should prepare another resolution to include these changes
and that it be placed on the Consent Calendar for the
November 15, 1988 Council meeting. Responding to the
Council's inquiry about continued public testimony on this
item, the City attorney opined that since the Public Hearing
was now closed and if the item is placed on the Consent
Calendar that no additional public testimony could be taken
on the issue unless a new Public Hearing was set.
Mrs. Vanderlip again inquired about the cooking facilities in
the gardener's shack, and it was the consensus that the unit
would have to brought into compliance with the Building Code
and after such compliance the applicant could then apply for
a variance.
RECESS AND RECONVENE At 9:25 P.M. the Mayor declared
a recess. At 9:45 the meeting
reconvened.
AUDIENCE QUESTIONS: Rollin Sturgeon, 5456 Bayend
Road, referred to an ordinance
adopted by the City of Palos Verdes Estates prohibiting
second story additions to maintain the compatability in
neighborhoods. He went on to explain the difference between
compatability versus view protection and requested that the
City Council give consideration to adoption of such an
ordinance.
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Lois Knight Larue, 3136 Barkentine, presented pictures of the
cracks that were to be repaired at the Pt. Vicente
Interpretative Center and pictures of what she felt was
evidence of a new landslide, 0
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. The Mayor opened up the Public
45667 - WATT DEVELOPMENT Hearing on this Tract Map and
(1411) Conditional Use Permit. The
City Clerk reported that notice
had been duly published. City Manager McDuffie presented the
staff memorandum of November 1st and the recommendation to
certify the Environmental Impact Report No. 28 and Approve
Tentative Tract Map No. 45667 and deny Conditional Use Permit
No. 130 Appeal and Grading No. 1061 Appeal.
City Council discussion included inquiries about the
following: the amount of the Dedication Fee* the various
street improvements along P.V. South that would be funded
from that Dedication Fee and whether the word "should" could
be interpreted as voluntary or mandatory in the conditions
listed for approval. Of concern also was the filling of the
ravines; if this was in violation of the General Plan;
if alternative designs had been considered for the roadways
and the lot configurations; and, whether staff had considered
other designs to obviate this filling. The issue of zoning
for the tract and the fact that part of it was zoned R-S1
and another R-S 3 was the next item of discussion and in
particular the issue of lot coverage and setback
requirements.
Representing the City's Geologist, Robert Stone and
Associates, was Michael Scullin, who explained to the Council
that his company has reviewed the developer's geological
reports. He stated he thought it was possible to provide the
buttressing for the proposed project by filling the ravine
in as proposed. He went to explain the possible stabilizing
effort of filling in the ravine on the rest of the land.
Responding to a Council question regarding drainage, he said
that site drainage had been proposed for the area. He
further explained that this particular area could have
localized failure whether or not it was developed. Replying
to a question about what might be the cause of failure, he
stated that either water and/or an earthquake could be the
impetus.
Larry Schmidt, 3330 Palos Verdes Drive West, representing
Watt Palos Verdes told the Council that the original plans
had a 15% street grade, and that they had also submitted a
plan to Stone which considered buttressing of the area
instead of the filling of the ravines. He went on to say
that they have lowered the street grades down to 10%
in an attempt to reduce the grading and to meet City
guidelines. He further stated that he thought the
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R-Sl and R-S2 zoning would be acceptable, and was concerned
that the Council was recommending only half of the density.
If some of the units are deleted, he thought that
the size of some of the lots should be increased. Also
representing the Watt Company was their attorney Tim Burrell,
who 'stated his objection to reducing the number of lots and
also requiring increasing the setbacks. Stating that this
project was a hybrid of R-S 1 and R-S 2, he said that this
project meets the R-S 1 minimum requirement for separating
houses.
The Watt Company planner for this project, Edward Pearson,
4184 Maritime Road, Rancho Palos Verdes, explained how this
plan was the best approach for the use of the land* that it
was an RPD layout and looked very much like the other
developments in the City; that the issues to be resolved were
the lot width and the location of the streets. He suggested
that instead of filling the canyon that buttressing could be
used instead..
Additional comments between Mr. Pearson and the Council
dealt with how the roads interfaced with Palos Verdes Drive
South and the steepness of the streets.
Representing the Trails Committee was Barbara Dye, who
explained the proposed Trails for this project. Stating that
this was part of the Loop Trail system she said that this
would be a multi-purpose trail's
Speaking in opposition to this project was Phillip Robertson,
3205 Barkentine Road, who represented the Abalone Homeowners'
Association* and Lois Knight Larue, 3136 Barkentine Rd. Both
of these residents objected to the density, the lot size and
were concerned about some of the hydrological issues. Ms.
Larue presented her evaluation of American Geotechnical's
geological report and Stone's evaluation of that report.
Sunshine, 6 Limetree, listed some of the concerns of the
Palos Verdes Horsemen's Association and presented a map of
their proposed trails for this area. Council requested that
staff get copies of this plan for their review. Jean
Longacre, 6 Martingale Dr., referred to her letter of August
6th which she requested be included in the EIR. She
questioned the 5 year limitation on the irrevocable offer to
dedicate the trail easement and questioned the adequacy of
the EIR when dealing with the issue of trails.
Responding to the concern about the recordation of the
trails, staff stated that the Trail System would indeed be
recorded in the final EIR document.
Council resumed discussion of some of the critical issues
such as deleting certain lots, preserving setbacks, more
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adequate representation of the Trail System, maintenance of
maximum 10% grades on the streets, and reduction of lot
density. It was the consensus that the developer meet with
the Director of Environmental Service to discuss these
issues. Council McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilman
Hinchliffe and carried to continue this item to the November
15th meeting.
RECESS AND RECONVENE At 12-035 A.M. the Mayor
declared a brief recess. At
12:46 the meeting reconvened.
TRACT MAP N09 46422 AND
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
5554 (1411)
reported that notice had been
presented the staff report of
recommendation to approve the
the environmental assessment
tract map No. 46422,
The Mayor opened up the Public
Hearing on this proposed seven
lot single family residential
subdivision. The City Clerk
duly given. The City Manager
November lst and the
final negative declaration for
No. 5554 and approve tentative
Council then proceeded to discuss the conditions of this
tentative tract. Mayor Ryan moved, seconded by Councilman
Hughes and carried to delete the requirement for street
lights. Concern was expressed about the deposits for road
improvements and staff responded that the City will be
requiring a cash deposit.
There being no response to the Mayor's call for public
testimoney, Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by
Councilman Hughes to close the Public Hearing. The motion
carried.
Councilman Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart
to adopt the staff recommendations with the following
changes.* All references to Director of Planning be changed
to Dr. of Environmental Services; All references to Fire
Chief be changed to Fire Dept. That Environmental Services
Condition No. 12 - Extreme Slopes - be changed to require
that driveway slopes to individual homes conform to
the Development Code; that street lights be removed, that
a cash deposit be required for road developments, and that
Environmental Services Condition No. 6 be amended to direct
the Director of Environmental Services to bring before the
Council any request to abandon the utility bridle trail
easement. Resolutions No. 88-66 CERTIFYING ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT NOe 554 AND APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO*
46422 was read by title and adopted on motion of Councilwoman
Bacharach, seconded by Councilman Hughes and carried.
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RESOL* NO* 88-67 The Mayor declared the Public
PUBLIC WORKS PERMIT hearing opened, notice of
FEES (1204) publication was announced by
the City Clerk. City Manager
McDuffie presented the staff report of November 1st and the
recommendation to adopt the proposed resolution establishing
Public Works permit fees.
There being no response to the Mayor's call for public
testimony, he declared the public hearing closed.
RESOL* NO* 88-67 ESTABLISHING PUBLIC WORKS PERMIT FEES
was read by title and ADOPTED on motion of Councilman
Hinchliffe, seconded by Councilman Hughes and carried.
REFUSE COLLECTION.
(1301)
This item was tabled until the
November 15th meeting.
MORATORIUM EXEMPTION NO* The City Manager presented the
21 - LOCATION 92 YACHT staff memorandum of November
HARBOR (1801) 1st and the recommendations as
follows: 1) Submit a Geology
report subject to the approval of the City Geologist and
comply with any recommendations. 2) Control roof run-off
in a contained system to street or drainage course. 3)
Correct lot drainage deficiencies (if any) per field in-
spection by the Building Division. 4) Obtain Planning
approval for the deck, including a Minor Exception Permit,
Extreme slope permit, and Coastal permit. 5) Obtain
applicable Building Division permits. 6) This exemption
shall be void after 360 days unless an application for a
building permit is submitted. 7) Submit a "Hold Harmless"
agreement prior to issuance of a building permit for the
deck.
Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman Hughes
to adopt the staff recommendations. The motion carried on a
3-1-1 vote with Councilman Hinchliffe abstaining and
Councilman McTaggart voting no.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS*
REPORT ON REGIONAL SHERIFF This item was tabled until the
November 5, 1988 meeting.
COUNCIL REVIEW OF PLANNING This item was also tabled until
ISSUES the November 15, 1988 meeting.
BLYTHEWOOD PROJECT (1701) Environmental Services Director
Benard reported that nuisance
abatement process has been initiated by the City.
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CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
The City Manager presented his report of November 1st and the
recommendation that the December 6th meeting of the City
Council be adjourned to December 15th. Councilwoman
Bacharach so moved, seconded by Mayor Ryan and carried.
STATUS OF COUNCIL A brief discussion ensued about
REPORTS the status of the Traffic Car
Analysis, the Sanitation
District Site.
ADJOURNMENT At 1-410 A.M. the meeting
adjourned to November 5th at
8:00 A.M. for a Community Leader Breakfast,
ATTEST:
MAYOA
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