CC MINS 19881004M I N U T E S
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 4,,1988
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Robert
E. Ryan at Hesse Park Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne Blvd.
After Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, roll call was
answered as follows:
PRESENT: BACHARACH, McTAGGART, HUGHES, HINCHLIFFE AND
MAYOR RYAN
Also present were Acting City Manager Robert Benard, City
Attorney Steve Dorsey, Public Works Director George Wentz,
City Clerk Jo Purcell and Finance Director Kevin Smith.
WAIVER OF FULL READINGS Councilman Hughes moved
ORDINANCES & RESOLUTIONS seconded by Council
Hinchliffe and carried, to
waive reading in full of all ordinances and resolutions
adopted at this meeting with consent to the waiver of reading
deemed to be given by all councilmembers after reading of the
title, unless specific request was made at that time for the
reading of such ordinance or resolution.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA The agenda was approved on
motion of Councilman Hughes
seconded by Councilwoman
Bacharach and carried.
CONSENT CALENDAR The Consent Calendar was
approved as follows on motion
of Councilman Hughes, seconded by Councilman Hinchliffe.
MINUTES
NARBONNE RIGHT-OF-WAY
SETTLEMENT (450 x 1201)
MIN45
Approved the minutes of
September 20, 198840
Authorized the Mayor to sign
the Stipulation for Full
Settlement and Waiver and
Release.
LEGISLATION (306) Supported Proposition No. 85
(State Bond Issue for Library
Construction and Renovation)
on the November ballot.
COMMUNITY LEADER Scheduled Saturday, November 5,
BREAKFAST (307) 1988 from 8:00 A.M. to 10:00
A.M. as the date for the Bi-
Annual Community Leader Breakfast.
FUNDING FOR PORTUGUESE
BEND TOE BERM EROSION
CONTROL. (1801)
Erosion Control Project,
RESOLUTION NO. 88 -62
REGISTER OF DEMAND
Authorized. the Finance Director
to transfer $30,000 to the
Redevelopment Agency for
completion of the Toe Berm
Adopted RESOLUTION 88 -62
ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS
FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE
PAID.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the
following roll call vote:
AYES: BACHARACH, McTAGGART, HINCHLIFFE, HUGHES AND
MAYOR RYAN (HINCHLIFFE & RYAN ABSTAINED ON THE
TRANSFER OF FUNDS FOR THE RDA TOE BERM)
NOES: NONE
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
STREET TREE POLICY Acting City Manager Bob
FOR VIEWS (1407) Benard presented the October 4,
1988 staff memorandum and the
recommendation that Council
receive public testimony on the
pruning of street trees for view protection, that the Public
Hearing be closed and that the staff be directed to take
appropriate action.
City Attorney Steve Dorsey summarized the CC &R's from the
Miraleste Parks District and how they prohibited the pruning
of privately owned trees unless approved by the Palos Verdes
Art Jury; trees, however, in City easements could be pruned
or removed by the City. Additionally, he went on to explain
that how street trees had now been defined in the policy and
that he had determined that the City Council could create a
subcommittee to consider appeals from the Director's decision
on whether a tree is impairing a view. He also explained
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that the primary change made to the covenant was to provide a
method for the City to extinguish the covenant.
Council then discussed the issue of taking a view from the
setback and the fact that the policy was originally drafted
to take into consideration the view from those outside areas
of a home. Councilman Hinchliffe moved, seconded by
Councilman McTaggart to make this standard consistent with
the Height Variation Ordinance and not protect views in the
setback areas. The motion carried unanimously.
Continuing with discussion of the policy Councilwoman
Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart to increase
the notification period from 10 to 30 days. That motion also
carried unanimously. It was the consensus that No. 5 in the
policy be amended to include the fact that a homeowner has
the option whether or not to replace the tree. Trees
replaced, however, must be from the official tree list.
On the issue of the area governed by the Palos Verdes Homes
Association, it was the consensus that the City Attorney
would work with the subcommittee (Ryan/Hughes)
to further define this point. It was the consensus that this
policy could be placed on the November 1st Consent Calendar.
Points of concern were reiterated as follows:, view will not
be considered from the setback, it can, however, be
considered from the outside of the house- the appeal period
would be extended to 30 days; the property owner adjacent to
the street tree will have the option of whether or not to
replace the tree.
VARIANCE NOe 189 APPEAL - The Mayor opened up the
LOCATION: 100 VANDERLIP DR. Public Hearing on this
(1804) application to legalize
existing conditions on the
Vanderlip Estate. The City Clerk announced that notice of
the public hearing had been duly published. Acting City
Manager Benard presented the staff memorandum of October 4th
and the recommendation that the appeal be denied thereby up-
holding the Planning Commission's decision conditionally
approving Variance No. 189. Further outlining the background
and history of this appeal was Senior Planner Greg Fuz . who
summarized the specific conditions that the appellant was
seeking to legalize through the variance process.
Furthermore, he presented a list of requirements sought by
the Fire Department to bring the property into compliance
with the Fire Code. These requirements were recently drawn
up as a result of the Fire Department's inspection of the
site.
Council then discussed at length the requirements set out in
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the Fire Marshal letter: whether these conditions were
normally required in the City- F the inspection of fire
r
hydrants- r who was responsible for these inspections- if
widening the driveway would necessitate the removal of some
of the trees; and, if the City had any latitude in dealing
with these County fire requirements.
Representing the applicant was her attorney Charles Locko,
1901 Avenue of the Stars, Los Angeles, who proceeded to
summarize the history of the Vanderlip Estate and Mrs.
Vanderlip's acquisition of the additional property. He went
on to explain the atmosphere that Mrs. Vanderlip is trying to
achieve in the estate and described how some of the units
have been modified to bring them into conformance with the
City's codes. These modifications have been achieved by
removal of some of the kitchens and converting the duplex'
units into single family units.
Regarding the letter received from the County of Los Angeles
Fire Department, Mr. Locko stated that since he had just
received it, he was not prepared to address the issues
outlined in that letter. With regard to the issue of the
wall opposite 99 Vanderlip Dr., he stated his client was
willing to cut a hole in that wall to improve the view for
Mr. John Vanderlip. Alluding to the City's requirement for a
scaled site plan prepared by a licensed surveyor or civil
engineer, he questioned the necessity of this since he
thought the City already had maps and aerial photos of the
area. He then stated his objection to the requirement that
the City staff be allowed to enter the property for the
purpose of photographing and video taping the exterior of
each of the structures in the estate*
RECESS AND RECONVENE At 9**19 P.M. the Mayor
declared a recess. At 9*-39
P.M. the meeting reconvened.
John Vanderlip, 99 Vanderlip Drive, said he was not
opposed to the rental units, that he thought the conditions
were all necessary, but he was basically interested in the
condition of the wall and the scaled site plan review.
He was concerned about encroachments which could
only be determined through a proper survey. Stating his
opposition to the wall, he said that it is a seven foot wall
and is supposed to be only 42 inches high. Also, he said
that building No. 6 should have a 20 foot setback.
Harriet Medve, 29 Sweetbay Rd., gave a brief history of the
Vanderlip Estate and said that Mrs. Vanderlip financed the
improvement of the estate with the units. She felt that the
units are very attractive. Also speaking in support of this
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estate was Dave Ruth, 40 Cinnamon Lane, who said he has no
objection to the buildings on the Vanderlip Estate. Lois
Jester, 49 Narcissa Drive, also spoke in favor of what Mrs.
Vanderlip has done. Edward Horton, 85 Vanderlip Drive, said
he was also pleased with Mrs. Vanderlip's property.
Council then discussed the conditions of the variance and, in
particular, which ones they had latitude in revising. The
City Attorney stated that the issue was whether or not to
grant the variance on a given number of units on the site,
and that some of the conditions would be mandatory because of
building code requirements and could not be waived.
Regarding the requirements of the Fire Department, those
conditions would have to be met in accordance with the
mandates of the Fire Code.
The City Council then proceeded to discuss the conditions
for granting this variance: compliance of the cooking
facilities that existed in some of these units; how cooking
units are generally handled in estate planning; whether the
unit that had both cooking and toilet facilities in the same
room was in violation of the Health Code; if this unit could
be strictly limited as an employee's quarter and not rented
out, or if there was a way to bring it into compliance with
the Building and Health Code.
The following action and amendments were then made to the
conditions of the variance:
1. Councilman Hughes moved, seconded by Councilwoman
Bacharach, and carried to adopt as presented.
2. It was the consensus that the word "Code" be inserted
as follows "...Safety/prevention code requirements...."
3. Approved as presented.
4. Modified to require that construction or development
requiring building permits be done in accordance with all
applicable City regulations.
5. Approved as presented.
6. Must be coordinated with the conditions listed in No.
1.
7. It determined that this condition was a mandatory
requirement and consequently.was approved as presented.
8. Councilman Hinchliffe moved, seconded by Councilman
Hughes and carried to delete requirement No. 80
9. This requirement for an irrevocable offer to join a
sewer district within 90 days, was also found to be a
standard requirement and was approved as presented.
10. Councilman Hughes moved, seconded by Councilwoman
Bacharach and carried to amend this to clarify that the
irrevocable offers of easements were for drainage and
dewatering purposes*
11. This condition was discussed at length and whether
the wall could be brought into compliance through a Minor
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Exception Permit or through the conditions of this variance.
It was the consensus that the wall be brought into compliance
as outlined in the condition of the variance.
12. The submittal of an agreement stating that all
conditions are understood and agreed to was modified to allow
30 days for the final variance approval.
13. The requirement for the scaled site plan was approved
as presented, however, staff was directed to prepare a
statement as to the accuracy to which the plan must be drawn.
14. Staff entry on the site for videotaping purposes,
was also approved as submitted.
Council then discussed the fact that the whole concept of
this variance was based upon having the Estate comply with
the one unit per acre zoning. That this variance approval
was conditioned upon all of the property being held as one,
the number of acres to be maintained at its present size and
that all of the units would have to be maintained to assure
that the property could not be sold off. Additionally, that
the number of units would have to be reduced if a parcel map
is applied for. It was the consensus that staff would insert
an additional condition to the variance outlining that
restriction,
Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman
McTaggart to continue the public hearing to November 1st for
the purpose of discussing the changes made to the conditions
but not for the purpose of hearing additional public
testimony on the merits of the projects. Councilwoman
Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman Hughes and carried
unanimously to approve as amended in concept and thereby deny
the appeal,
AUDIENCE QUESTIONS:
Responding to the Mayor's call for audience questions for
items not on the agenda was Dana Carrier, 6406 West Seal
Point Rd., who related to the Council the conditions existing
in that area because the street is used as a turn around for
RTD buses. She explained that the buses are left idling
and this results in noise and fumes.
Public Works Director George Wentz said that staff is
reviewing this situation to determine the alternatives
available for the turn around of RTD buses. It was the
consensus that this item of the RTD turn around be listed on
the City Manager's Status of Council Directives*
NUISANCE ABATEMENT AT Acting City Manager Benard
2509 COLT ROAD (1701) stated that Environmental
Services staff and
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Building Official had inspected the site of this nuisance and
it was determined that corrective action to abate it had been
completed. The only remaining item that needed to be
completed was the submittal of a final compaction report by
Mr. Salmonson's Civil Engineer and that the graded slope be
planted for erosion control. It was staff's opinion that
these matters could be resolved without the need to proceed
further with the abatement process.
Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by Councilman Hughes
to cease the abatement process. The motion carried
unanimously,
HEIGHT VARIANCE Acting City Manager Benard pre -
NO. 529 APPEAL (1800 sented the amended staff report
which recommended that the
appeal be denied thereby approving the proposed second story
addition using massing scheme No. 4 with a modified roof
pitch of 3:12,
(At this time Councilman McTaggart excused himself from
Council discussion of this item)
Associate Planner Carolynn Petru explained the difference
between schemes 3 and 4 and summarized the resulting effects
of these differences: No. 3 moves it closer to the
appellant's property and, No. 4 would move the project more
in line with the original application.
Mike Boukeart, 29016 Maplepark Drive, said that he went to
Mr. Hudson's home to inspect the plans. He requested that
the City Council not approve the height variation but if they
did he was in agreement with Scheme No. 4. With that plan
the height was the lowest of all the schemes, the second
story would be further away from his home, and he requested
that if No. 4 was approved that no additional extension be
allowed on the back of the property. Beatrice Rasof, 28845
Briarhurst, rejected Scheme No. 1 and recommended that a
restriction be placed on building over the Hudson's patio.
She then explained her objections to Scheme No. 4. Also
objecting to this variance was Emil DePortimo, 28845
Briarhurst, who explained how this would effect both his view
and that of his neighbor. John McTaggart, 6916 Purpleridge,
commended Mr. Hudson for considering all of the alternatives
and said he was in agreement with Scheme No. 4.
The applicant in this matter James Hudson, 29010 Maplepark
Drive, said that Scheme No. 1 was his preference and that he
would remove the chimney and place it at the east end of the
house. He disliked the aesthetics of Scheme No. 3 pointing
out that it would change the pitch of the addition. He also
said that he would like to have the option of building an
extension onto his livingroom at some time.
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Council then proceeded to discuss the proposed schemes and in
particular the features of Scheme Nos. 1 and 4 and the
effects of moving the chimney as proposed by Mr. Hudson. A
motion by Councilwoman Bacharach, seconded by Councilman
Hinchliffe to approve Scheme No. 1 failed on a 2-2 vote with
Councilmen Ryan and Hughes voting in opposition. Continued
discussion of the schemes resulted in Councilman Hinchliffe
moving, seconded by Mayor Ryan to approve Scheme No. 4 with
no balcony on the north side of the house and no restriction
on building in the backyard and that the trees be removed.
The motion carried with Councilman Hughes voting in
opposition.
(Councilman McTaggart then resumed his seat at the council
table.)
PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACT The Council subcommittee
WITH CHARLES ABBOTT ASSOC. (Ryan/Hughes) reviewed their
FOR FY 1988-89 (1204) recommendations that the 150
administrative fee on all
subcontracts be deleted and that a cap of $68.25 per hour be
placed on the Director of Public Works position,
Council then proceeded to discuss if the Director's hours
would be reduced, whether the scheduling of inspections could
be arranged to accommodate scheduling them specifically for
the morning or the afternoon. The question then arose
whether such a schedule was indeed practical. It was the
consensus that staff would look into this situation to see if
the procedures could be improved,
Councilman Hughes moved, seconded by Councilman Hinchliffe to
approve the contract with the deletion of the finder's fee.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES:
BACHARACH, HUGHES, HINCHLIFFE AND MAYOR RYAN
NOES* McTAGGART
TRAIL EASEMENT FOR Acting City Manager Benard
7061 CREST ROAD (701) x (450) presented the October 4th staff
memorandum and the
recommendation to require an irrevocable offer to dedicate a
pedestrian trail easement on the subject property. That
easement would be either in the configuration recommended by
the Trails Committee or as recommended by the staff as
a condition of approval for a new single family residence.
Barbara Dye, a member of the Trails Committee, spoke in favor
of the Committee's recommendation. Also speaking in favor of
the trail was Stan Wilker, 7121 Avenida Altisma.
Dr. Friend, 7061 Crest Road, said a fence has been across
the easement for the past two and half years so it has not
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been used. He questioned whether the trail should be run
across the eastern side of his property and explained to the
Council the process that he has gone through in obtaining
approval for a building permit to build a home on the
property adjacent to this proposed easement. He voiced his
concern about his inability to get a building permit because
of this easement restriction.
In response to Council's inquiry the City Attorney said that
the course being taken by the City in acquiring this ease-
ment is a normal procedure.
Representing the Trails Committee was Jean Longacre, who said
there was a lot of public interest in this trail and said
that the only disagreement she had with the trail was its
location.
Council then discussed why the Trails Committee wanted a
pedestrian easement along this trail, the width of this
easement, and whether a fence would be allowed over the
easement. Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by Council-
man Hughes to adopt the Trails Committee recommendation with
the understanding that the staff find out the requirements
and work with the applicant on the details of the
restrictions over the easement. The motion carried
unanimously,,
REFUSE COLLECTION Public Work Director Wentz
(1301) presented the October 4th
memorandum and the amended
recommendation that the Council authorize in concept staff
proceeding with the preparation of an agreement similar to
what has been prepared for Area 1. He stated that staff
needs additional time to work with Shubin and Waste
Management to structure a formal reasonable agreement. Staff
recommended that the subcommittee (Ryan/Bacharach) consider
holding a Town Hall meeting to discuss this with interested
residents. Councilwoman Bacharach moved, seconded by
Councilman Hinchliffe to table this and ask the subcommittee
to schedule such a Town Hall meeting* The motion carried
unanimously. It was the consensus that notification of this
Town Hall meeting be put on the messenger board on Cable TV.
CITY COUNCIL REPORTS.
SCHEDULING OF PLANNING Councilwoman Bacharach
suggested that consideration be
given to supplying the City Council with reports on Planning
issues that will be coming to the City Council for review and
discussion a few weeks before they are scheduled for City
Council action. She felt that this would give the Council
members time to visit the project sites. It was the
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consensus that staff would attempt to identify on the City
Manager's Status Report those items that would be scheduled
in the near future on City Council agendas.
GEOTECHNICAL REPORTS Mayor Ryan presented his report
on geotechnical investigations
with the recommendation that reconsideration be given to the
necessity in requiring geotechnical investigations in areas
where no distress in the surrounding structures have been
experienced and the building is not over a slope.
Responding to Council's inquiry was David Baird, Building
Official, who said that these investigations are required on
all new buildings and tracts.
Council then discussed who makes the decision on the
requirement for these reports, how the Canyon boundary
is determined, and if this is a requirement of the Uniform
Building Code. It was the consensus that staff would review
the difference between the State and the County Uniform
Building Code and bring the issue back to Council.
SOUTH BAY CORRIDOR Referring to the letter
STEERING COMMITTEE (1505) in the agenda, Councilwoman
Bacharach explained that it
will be going to all Cities in the South Bay and that it
explains the fact that while they may be losing a little
local control over the operation of taxicabs the trade off is
for more uniform standards in performance and that it would
also promote competition amongst the taxicab companies. It
was the consensus of Council to lend their support to this
concept.
CTIP (1505) Councilwoman Bacharach
explained that the City of
Torrance will now be the lead agency for this program, and
that the first official steering meeting will be on November
7, 1988 and that the Memo Of Understanding will be presented
to the City Council on November 1st for eventual presentation
to that Steering Committee.
CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
STATUS OF COUNCIL It was the consensus of Council
DIRECTIVES that an item be added to this
report for the City Council,
Planning Commission and Committees field trip. Also, that
the Committees and Commissions should be requested to submit
their suggestions for the agenda for that meeting.
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EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS
(401)
SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER
(307)
Councilman Hinchliffe moved,
seconded by Councilman Hughes
and carried unanimously to
receive and file this report.
It was the consensus that this
meeting could be cancelled
because of the annual
conference in San Diego.
AGENDA FOR CITY MANAGER It was the consensus that the
CITY COUNCIL RETREAT (307) subcommittee of Bacharach and
Ryan meet with the City Manager
to devise an agenda for the retreat.
ADJOURNMENT At 1:10 A.M. the meeting
adjourned to October 14, 1988
at 7.-00 P.M. on motion of
Councilman Hughes, seconded by Councilman McTaggart and
carried.
ATTEST:
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