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CC MINS 19880329 JNTM I N U T E S JOINT WORK SESSION RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL AND RANCHO PALOS VERDES PLANNING COMMISSION MARCH 29, 1988 The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Robert E. Ryan, at Hesse Park Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on file. PRESENT: BACHARACH, McTAGGART, HUGHES AND MAYOR RYAN ABSENT. HINCHLIFFE Also present were City Manager Dennis McDuffie, City Attorney Steven Dorsey, Environmental Services Director Robert Benard, Senior Planner Ann Negendank., and City Clerk Jo Purcell. The following Planning Commissioners were also present. PRESENT: Von Hagen, Wike, McNulty and Chairman Connolly ABSENT: ORTOLANO HEIGHT VARIATION APPLICATION PROCEDURES AND VIEW ISSUES. The mayor opened the meeting by commenting that this session would cover a wide ranging question and answer period with the City Attorney regarding view related issues. The Council and the City Attorney then proceeded to discuss issues relating to the height ordinance and in particular to the efficacy- of the City's current height- ordinance; the fact that a right to a view is not protected by the Constitution; the number of appeals that have come before the City Council dealing with second story additions, and some hypothetical situations concerning one neighbor's opposition to the building of second story additions�by several other neighbors. Additional discussion-took place regarding the situation of a one-on-one view blockage, the conflict between the right to a view versus the right to reasonably develop one's property, and the extent to which the City can go in writing a view protection ordinance. The discussion next centered on the effectiveness of CC&Rls and the fact that they are enforced by the homeowner associations and not the City. Also, to be defensible, that these CC&Rls must not have a history of selective enforcement. The City Attorney then summarized for Council's information the current status of litigation regarding land use and the attitudes of the Courts in dealing with land use. Superior property rights were the next item of discussion and whether some property.did indeed restrict the development of adjacent land. of major concern was the restriction of second story additions in the case of families who desperately needed more room. RECESS AND RECONVENE At 9:00 P.M. the Mayor declared a brief recess. At 9:15 P.M* the meeting reconvened. The next item of discussion was cumulative 'impact and how it could be extrapolated to identify a quantifiable impact. The Council next reviewed the summary of recommended changes from the Planning Commission. A brief discussion then followed on the determination of incremental view impact. The next discussion was regarding the impact of trees on views and their present and future impact. Major concern was expressed over the obliteration of views by trees; what happens in the case where a person wants to build a second story where the trees now exists and, if in surveying that area, it is determined that views don't exist because of this tree blockage the second story could be approved. However, if the trees did not exist, there would be a view and con- sequently a second story would be prohibited. The Council next discussed the possibility of putting a use covenant on property where trees blocked views. Another concern dealing with the removal of trees was whether they could be amortized and what value could be placed on them. A system was suggested whereby if somebody complained about a second story addition that they be requested to deed restrict their property limiting the height of their trees to sixteen feet, the idea being to start a Citywide program of commitment by residents to restrict the height of trees. With so many other issues remaining to be discussed on this item, it was the consensus that the City Council, the Planning commission, staff and the City Attorney meet again on April 18, 1988 at 7:30 P.M. to continue the discussion of views and view obstruction. ADJOURNMENT ATTEST,: At 11:25 P.M. the meeting adjourned on motion of Council- man McTaggart MAYOFO SM2- MARCH 29, 1988