CC MINS 19900531 ADJ JNTMINUTES
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION JOINT MEETING
MAY 31, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Mayor Melvin
W. Hughes at Fred Hesse Park Community Building, notice
having been given with affidavit thereto on file.
PRESENT* BACHARACHr HINCHLIFFEy RYAN, AND
MAYOR HUGHES
ABSENT: McTAGGART
Also present were Planning Commission members Robert McNulty,
Peter Von Hagen, Susan Brooks, and Robert Katherman.
Staff members present were City Manager William F. Cornett,
Deputy City Manager Mark Rohloff, City Clerk Jo Purcell, City
Attorney Ariel P. Calonne, Environmental Services Director
Robert Benard and Public Works Director George Wentz.
TRACT NO* 49067 The Mayor commented that this
pre-screening workshop hearing
was being held to maximize public review of the project at
the earliest feasible time; to focus public review of the
issues of greatest significance to the community- provide
early, non-binding preliminary suggestions to encourage
economically efficient private decisions; encourage
communications between elected and appointed officials- and,
to implement the General Plan and development regulation
compliance.
Associate Planner Laurie Jester presented the May 31, 1990
staff report which contained two scenarios for the
development of this proposed 24 lot residential planned
development. In her overview of the project she described
the land use, and major issues such as coastal setback line,
density, zoning, lot size, setbacks, grading and geology,
views, traffic and circulation, archaeology, drainage, and
agriculture.
Council inquiries focused on the following: how the coastal
setback line was established- clarification of what is
allowed in the setback zone; the ratio of lot size versus lot
coverage; whether a staff analysis comparing a conventional
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tract versus a residential planned development had been
prepared; whether there was a correlation between the open
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space hazard zone and the coastal setback zone; and, the
intended use of the proposed parking lots.
Representing Transamerica Realty Services, the developer of
this project, was Donald [try, who told the Council that
Scheme "B" was the preferred plan because of the improved
circulation which they felt was consistent with the intention
of the Coastal Plan. He further explained the parking lot
location would control runoff which he described as being
a positive feature; that the footprints of the proposed homes
in the worksheet packet were conceptual- that each of the
homes would be individually designed, would be split level.
two to four thousand sq. ft. homes and that Transamerica
would be developing all of the homes*
Further inquiries from the Council dealt with how the design
of these homes assured privacy since they were adjacent to
Palos Verdes Drive- if various designs had been considered to
avoid a privacy problem- and, what amenities existed in this
RPD as a trade-off against a conventional subdivision.
Also representing Transamerica was their Civil Engineer
Ronald Kendricks, 616 W. Commonwealth Avenue, Fullerton, who
addressed the issue of the drainage course near Schooner
Drive; the slope of certain lots; access to Palos Verdes
Drive South; and, explained how these homes would be located
to enhance the view.
Bruce Arita, architect for Transamerica, addressed the issue
of protection of archaeological sites and artifacts and
referred to a 1986 report submitted to the City which
reported no evidence of archaeological finds at the project
site. He did report, howeverr, that the grading would be
monitored for identification of any finds that might be
made.
Edward Pearson, 4184 Maritime, stated that he lives in close
proximity to the project and is a member of the board of
directors of the homes association* He explained how
Transamerica has kept the neighbors informed of their
development plans by conducting two seminars. He said that
most of the people attending those seminars were in favor of
the project, particularly Scheme "B". He felt that this plan
solved the ingress and egress problems of the project and
that he would rather see small homes on small lots*
John McCarthy, 105 Spindrift, President of the Portuguese
Bend Homes Association reported that he has been working with
Transamerica and kept abreast of this development and that
the homes association was in favor of Scheme "B". He did not
agree with the 5 ft. fences adjacent to Palos Verdes Drive
South and thought they should be higher- he agreed with the
density of the project, however disagreed with any change
which would have to go before the Coastal Commission and felt
that the moratorium line should be moved.
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In response to Council inquiries, Mr. McCarthy stated that
the association was concerned about the parking, and gates,
and that they preferred single family homes.
During additional Council and Planning Commission discussion,
the suggestion was made that Transamerica should consider
providing the sizes and layout of the footprints of the
homes. Concern was expressed about traffic patterns in this
area and staff was requested to investigate any concern.
Apropos to the issue of traffic, Council inquired about the
intersection of the proposed scheme and the benefit in
staggering it with the existing intersection.
Relative to the guidelines discussed at the RPD workshop, the
suggestion was made that this project might be an opportunity
to experiment with the guidelines developed at that workshop.
Continuing with discussion, concern and inquiries focused on
the following: the proximity of the homes and the dense
appearance of the project; privacy for the homes that backed
up to Palos Verdes Drive South; if a frontage road had been
considered to ameliorate the privacy issue- if more
information was needed about the archaeological and
geological conditions at the site; the fact that the project
looked more like a regular subdivision and not an RPD, if
staff had taken into account that portion of Proposition 1IM11
that dealt with neighborhood compatibility and how that might
affect the house size.
Expressing their opinions about this project were the
following residents: Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, stated that
she thought this project was not a true RPD, that the
landslide in the area was growing and requested that the
geology of the area be kept in mind. Chip Zelt, 4100 Sea
Horse Lane, stated his support for scheme "B" and single
family homes. Barbara Dye, Chair of the Trails Committee,
said that the Trails Network Plan calls for a trail along
Palos Verdes Drive South.
Responding to some of the concerns expressed by the Council
and the public, Lyman Lokken, representing Transamerica,
explained the construction features used to mitigate the
noise for these homes and also stated that-his company has
spent three years and over one million dollars on geology
studies of the area. He said that it was not their intention
to build giant houses and overbuild on the lots; the homes
would be custom; that they have not considered building
townhouses; that a 7' wide trail adjacent to Palos Verdes
Drive South was proposed; and, that he recommended that there
be no left turn lane into the existing entrance.
Council then continued with discussion of various elements of
the proposed project including the setback lines and the fact
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that staff should look at a.planned development with zero lot
lines in exchange for providing larger setbacks and more
usable setbacks especially in considering the houses that
back on to Palos Verdes Drive South. With regard to the
Coastal setback line, Council stressed the importance of
staff identifying inconsistencies that may exist in the code;
the importance of preserving the view from Palos Verdes Drive
South- and the fact that staff should be sensitive to the
issue of view and visual aspects of the project from the road
and views from homes across Palos Verdes Drive South. On
the issue of traffic circulation, and adding additional
conflicts on Palos Verdes Drive South, Council expressed
concern that it be examined by the Traffic Committee prior to
being brought to Council. Concern was expressed that nothing
be done to exacerbate the existing drainage conditions.
Alternative layouts using a frontage road should be explored
and maintenance and access to isolates slopes on the lots
needs to be addressed.
Discussion of this project concluded with staff reporting
that this matter would now go to the Planning Commission
for their review.
RECESS & RECONVENE At 10-055 P.M. the
Mayor declared a recess.
At 11:10 P.M. the meeting reconvened.
FISCAL YEAR 1990-91 BUDGET Captain Dennis Gillard from
the Lomita Sheriff's
station summarized the background on the Multi-
jurisdictional Criminal Apprehension Program which was
developed in 1977. Based upon the cost of the program and
benefits derived from it, he recommended that the City not
continue to participate in this program.
City Attorney Budget -Deputy City Manager Rohloff reviewed
the legal services budget and reported that based on the
City's demand for legal services in previous years, a 10%
increase in charges for legal services is expected for the
forthcoming year.
Council discussion focused on the pros and cons of whether to
have an in-house attorney or to continue with the present
arrangement; and, if billing for the attorney services should
be spread over the departments.
City Clerk Purcell clarified various areas of her budget in
response to Council questions.
Neighborhood Watch - In their review of this budget Council
recommended that the City should get somebody from the
community to provide this service.
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Salary Survey - Council made inquiries regarding the
implementation of a cost of living increase and whether it
should be done at the start of the fiscal year or delayed
until the completion of the suggested salary survey. It was
the consensus that staff should prepare an RFP for such a
survey.
Council Compensation - Council discussed benefits and salary
for councilmembers and the cost for such items. It was the
consensus that this item be placed on the July 3rd agenda*
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ADJOURNMENT#
ATTEST*
At 11-030 P.M. the meeting
adjourned on motion of
Councilman Ryan and
carried.,
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