CC MINS 19900220 ADJM I N U T E S
CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 20, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 5:30 P.M. by Mayor Melvin
W. Hughes at Hesse Park Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne
Boulevard, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on
file.
PRESENT. McTaggart, Hinchliffe, Bacharach and Mayor
Hughes
LATE ARRIVAL: Ryan at 6:00 P.M.
Also present were Planning Commissioners Robert McNulty,
Susan Brooks, Peter Von Hagen, Charles Hotchkiss and Robert
Katherman, Jr.
Also present were City Manager William Cornett, Jr., Deputy
City Manager Mark Rohloff, Environmental Services Director
Robert Benard, Public Works Director George Wentz, City
Attorney Ariel P. Calonne, Recreation and Parks Director Mary
Thomas and City Clerk Jo Purcell.
LONG POINT - PRESCREENING Environmental Services Director
WORKSHOP (1804) Benard presented the staff
memorandum of February 20th
and the recommendation to conduct a pre - screening
workshop hearing to achieve the purposes set forth in
Resolution No. 89 -103: (1) maximize public review at the
earliest feasible time. ( 2 ) focus public review of the
issues of greatest significance to the community.
(3) provide early, non - binding preliminary suggestions to
encourage economically efficient private decisions.
(4) encourage communications between elected and appointed
officials. (5) implement the General Plan and development
regulations compliance.
The City Attorney reported that the video tape made of the
pre- screening workshop was to assist staff in the preparation
of minutes and that it was not staff's intention to retain
the tape and that it would be destroyed through routine use
of the tape.
Director Benard then went on and summarized the major
elements of this project: hotel and ancillary uses; site
improvements; residential development; access from Palos
Verdes Drive South; lot parcelization; the development
phasing; planning application review and approvals. The
memorandum also addressed issues such as land use, open
space, views, traffic, grading, technology and aesthetics.
Exhibit "A" of the memorandum enumerated the footage involved
in the commercial development, off - street parking and the
residential development.
(At 6:00 P.M. Councilman Ryan arrived.)
Council then inquired about such things as the retention of
the Pereria Hotel and if it had any historical significance;
how the phasing of the development will take place; and if
grading would be done over the three parcels to balance out
the necessary grading. Inquiry was made about the marine
theme and what evidence of it existed on the proposed plans
and if the applicant was applying for a zoning of RS -2.
On the parcelization of the golf course, Council inquired
how the golf course property involved would be handled; if
this project was dependent upon the installation of a golf
course; and, if this project would be worth looking at as a
sub- division.
Regarding the amount of traffic generated by this proposed
project, Council inquired if the hotel would have a shuttle
service for guests and employees.
Council also inquired if consideration had been given
to the policy of not having homes seaward of the bluff road.
Joan Hanley, 3037 Deluna Drive, representing the Monaghan
Company referred to the Long Point Resort and Conference
Center brochure which contained a conceptual master plan
for development of that area. Ms. Hanley further explained
in detail the phasing and the various amenities contained in
this project and requested that Council consider down zoning
the property from commercial to residential.
She explained the discussions that the Monaghan team has been
having with the staff and the City Attorney.
The City Attorney clarified these discussions as an exchange
of ideas and not negotiations.
Council then resumed their inquiry and commented on
the fact that the guidelines for the development of Long
Point contained no residential development; inquired if
an alternative existed whereby as much of the golf course as
possible could be put on Monaghan property versus the
maximization of the golf course on publicly owned land.
Another inquiry made was if single family residential homes
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were considered for the entire site.
The discussion touched upon the number of vehicle trips
generated by single family homes and it was the consensus
that staff should try to get the statistics on such trips.
Council then inquired of the applicant whether housing for
employees had been considered.
The architect for this project Tom Williams, of Howard
Needles Tammen and Bergendorff, told the Council that the
intention was to reuse a number of the structures presently
on the property. With regard to the Pereria hotel, the
intention was to use it as honeymoon suites; that the Texaco
gas station building would be torn down and a market and a
cafe' would be built in its place. Since the golf course was
an item they had no control over, he said that this would be
considered in the last phase of construction.
Council then inquired and commented on the absence of the
marine theme and the prevalence of the Mediterranean theme;
if it was planned to incorporate the idea of a Baja Reef;
and, that the golf course appeared to be sandwiched into the
design. The suggestion was made that perhaps the golf course
should be expanded and thereby allow more open space.
Additional questions from the Council and the Planning
Commission included the inquiry whether the hotel could
exist without a golf course; who would operate the hotel;
and, if the applicant had ever considered development of this
site without the hotel.
Speaking on behalf of the Monaghan Company was Tom Tomlin,
who told the Council that the hotel would not be viable
without the golf course.
Dave Ruth, 40 Cinnamon Lane, said that he lived half way
between two proposed hotels, Long Point and the Ritz Carlton,
and questioned the revenue capability of the hotel. He cited
the income to the City resulting from a 4% bed tax.
Al Billings, 32700 Coastsite Drive, expressed his belief
that the area should be developed as a revenue producing
area for the City.
Sandra Stager, 32703 Via Palacio, spoke in support of this
development.
Tom Campbell, 12 Paseo Del Mar, also spoke in support of this
project.
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Luella alike , 29172 Oceanridge Drive, rpad e suggest# 0 ns
regarding the EIR and in particular at)oTu;!t e job marke an
available housingbalancq issues now being stress1d,b SCAG
and the AQMD*'
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that re"s'identiaA -dL pme wasn't n`e 'd A. • ih'ait
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that a golf course was necessary to make this'i�iell
successful; and tie fact that. the ,Ci tj reqqgqiziq4that there.
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I g 'arc i I it'afe a golk a .wifh tho� aid of was attempt'"'n to course
developer of sub-region 1 and by using some of the Ci'ty=
owned parkland on the site* Its was the consensus the
'the ,ma 3 or 1b i "�!)Paorq
Council ienvisiQ4ed, the i `te'
of
not one filled with ','froht._,1'a'r4s,An ba-6-k a
facility that would ,b ld renow C,3�i
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that would give the `t' Wetit3[ty an loss
of that e�erienced when Marineland let*
ADJOURNMENT
At 70#35 P*11.w.the mesh ng,ad,iourned. P14nai49 Commission
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adjourned to 7.30 Febkua'*
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