CC MINS 19900212 ADJ JNTM I N U T E S
CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP
ADJOURNED MEETING
FEBRUARY 12, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Mayor Melvin
Hughes at Ridgecrest Intermediate School, 28915 Northbay
Road, notice having been given with affidavit there to on
file. Af ter the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, ro l l call
was answered as follows:
PRESENT: McTaggart, Hinchliffe, Ryan, Bacharach and
Mayor Hughes.
Also present were City Manager William Cornett, Deputy City
Manager Mark Rohloff, Director of Environmental Services
Robert Benard, Director of Public Works George Wentz, City
Attorney Ariel Pierre Calonne, Planning Commissioners Peter
Von Hagen, Robert Katherman, Charles Hotchkiss, and Susan
Brooks,
City Attorney Calonne reported in a closed session, the City
Council took action to appoint William F. Cornett as Interim
City Manager. A contract will be brought before the Council
at'the February 20, 1990 meeting to finalize Mr. Cornett's
appointment.
Attorney Calonne announced that the current workshop was
called for the purpose of allowing presentations by the
applicants, Palos Verdes Land Holding Company and Zuckerman
Building Company, to inform the Council and the Planning
Commission on the status of the project and to solicit input
from the audience on the recent specific planning activities
which have occurred relative to Coastal Subregions 7 & 8, and
to present the process and timetable anticipated by staff to
complete these activities. He stressed that it was not
appropriate to obtain detailed specific comments on the
project.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion was made by Councilwoman Bacharach, seconded by
Councilman Hinchliffe to approve the agenda as presented.
Motion unanimously passed.
Director Benard presented information on the City's
incorporation and historic development activities. He stated
that the General Plan and Coastal Specific Plan contain
numerous goal statements which established the direction of
the City to preserve the natural environment.
Director Benard next discussed recent coastal land
development activity and reviewed the current property
ownership in Subregions 7 & 8, which includes the Zuckerman
Building Company (140 acres), Palos Verdes Land Holdings Co.
( PVLHC) (107 acres), Palos Verdes Peninsula Unified School
district (8.5 acres), Ocean Terraces (5.5 acres) and Los
Angeles County (56.5 acres).
A Land Use Initiation Request made in 1987 by PVLHC and
staff's recommendation to the City Council to approve the
Initiation Request was also reviewed by Mr. Benard. He
noted that when this Initiation Request was approved, the
City Council was in no way to determine the appropriateness
of the development until the process was started and the
research was performed by staff.
Director Benard added that, while the Specific Plan studies
for Coastal Subregions 1, 7 & 8 were ongoing, staff believed
that certain development controls should be put into place to
preclude premature development within these coastal areas.
The operative urgency ordinances, which placed restriction on
the submittal of any development applications, were adopted
and extended by the City Council in April and May 1988,
extended again in April 1989, and will expire April 1990,
Director Benard discussed the public's participation in the
Specific Plan concepts, noting that as a result of public
workshops and public forums, staff and traffic and trails
committees review, numerous changes were incorporated into
the specific Plan design. The most significant result of the
public planning effort was the participation of the Zuckerman
Building Company in the Specific Plan process.
Regarding the Specific Plan and the environmental Impact
Reviews, Director Benard reported that these documents were
expected to be finalized within 45 days, after which time
they will be released for public review and eventual public
hearings. Written comments are encouraged during the
circulation period, which is normally 45 days. Upon
completion of the circulation period, a final EIR will be
prepared with the assistance of an independent environmental
consultant who will respond to all correspondence and public
testimony on the draft EIR; staff will address comments on
the Specific Plan. The EIR and the Specific Plan circulation
are expected to proceed through May 1990. The Planning
Commission hearing process will end with a recommendation to
the City Council in either August or September 1990.
Director Benard summarized his report by stating that the
workshop will provide information which will benefit the
public, staff, the Planning Commission and the City Council
by presenting the Specific Plan concepts for Subregions 7 & 8
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prior to initiation of the formal public review and hearing
session.
In the discussion following the presentation, Councilwoman
Bacharach asked for greater clarity on the process which will
result in a December 1990 product and for specific reasons to
continue the specific Plan process.
Councilman Hinchliffe expressed concern about scheduling and
about getting full cooperation in the process from the
principal property owners.
In response to Council question, Director Benard stated that
it was staff's recommendation that the regions be reviewed in
their.entirety and not in increments, in order to achieve an
overall planning review of the development potential and the
named properties in Subregions 7 & 80
City Attorney Calonne reported that action may be taken
between the current time and April 20th in order to assure
that operative urgency ordinances are completed before
development applications are received. Attorney Calonne also
noted that one of staff's obligations is to assure
objectivity, and for that reason, extensive revisions of the
Draft EIR will be done.
Director Benard added that within the 45 day period all
inconsistencies and inadequacies in the Specific Plan will
be-resolved and changes made where appropriate.
PRESENTATION BY PALOS VERDES LAND HOLDINGS COMPANY
Peter Herman, spokesman for Palos Verdes Land Holdings
Company, reviewed the history of subregions 7 & 8 and the
land use concepts as proposed by PVLHC, which includes a 450
room hotel, an 18 -hole golf course, four restaurants, tennis
courts, a commercial area and 128 single - family homes.
It was Mr. Herman's opinion that his company's proposal would
provide the greatest benefit to the residents because all the
facilities would be open to the public. The company has
requested that the property be excluded from the moratorium
area. Mr. Herman noted that for the past two years, the
company has worked with the Director of Environmental
Services to comply with relevant City policies and with the
goals of the community. Mr. Herman added that view
preservation is a major consideration, and the company's plan
offers new opportunities for enjoying coastal uses.
Mr. Herman then reviewed in detail the impacts of PVLHC
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plan on traffic and open space, and reviewed the proposals
for trails networks, tennis courts, golf courses, and viewing
overlooks.
PRESENTATION BY ZUCKERMAN BUILDING COMPANY
Ken Zuckerman of Zuckerman Building Company stated that his
principal concern with the areas being discussed, which he
first expressed in May 1989, is the issue of multiple owner-
ship. He said that the Zuckerman family will not, is not
selling their land to Palos Verdes Land Holding Company, and
under the circumstances, PVLHC has no right to deliver their
plan as it currently stands because the property lines
associated with the ownerships are not respected.
Mr. Zuckerman then discussed the process of reviewing the
environmental concerns and overlay zones and the iterations
for positioning the homes. He noted that it is the desire of
the Zuckermans to develop the property strictly for
residential use, with access to the coast, bluff top trails,
ample open spaces, pedestrian bridges and opportunities to
walk along the bluffs. The total number of trails and open
space proposed in the Zuckerman plan is more than double that
of the PVLHC plan.
Mr. Zuckerman did not agree that any of this land should be
used for commercial ventures. Regarding other impacts
associated with the PVLHC plan, Mr. Zuckerman disapproved of
the amount of earth that would need to be removed, and of the
increased number of vehicles per day that would be required.
He also proposed that lot coverage criteria be established
for the residential plan, and he concluded that the
Zuckermans will make every effort to make modifications to
the plan as a result of input from the Council and the
Planning Commission to bring the plan into present zoning
conditions and to meet City guidelines and development
criteria.
In the ensuing discussion, Mr. Zuckerman was asked to what
extent has geologic work been conducted to determine the
stability of the site. He was also asked to provide further
detail on his proposal for lot coverage criteria, and for
more specific information on involvement of other property
owners in the development process.
A recess was taken from 8:50 P.M. until 8 :55 P.M.
AUDIENCE QUESTIONS:
Andrew Sargent, 1 Peppertree, presented a letter which stated
his opposition to any proposal for rewriting the General Plan
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and Coastal Specific Plan to benefit Mr. Hon, and urged that
commercial development not be allowed in Subregions 7 & 8 by
Mr. Hon or any other developer.
Cathy Manning, 29438 Quailwood, inquired why Mr. Hon is not
being required to meet the Orange County criteria with regard
to creating open space.
Jeanne Burke, 2821 Via Segovia, asked whether bicycle paths
will be included in the Hon plan and asked about the width of
the open spaces in the seaward golfways.
Paul Weisz, 32365 Phantom Drive, representing Ladera Linda
Homeowners Association, asked whether the impacts of
increased traffic access on Palos Verdes Drive South has been
explored by Palos Verdes Land Holding Company.
Ken McNeill, 6527 Monero Drive, noted that the hotel and golf
course proposals represent a good opportunity for development
of the coastline.
S.K. Khurana, 29219 Beachside Drive, requested information on
the findings and interpretations of the geological studies.
Paul Hendifar, 4325 Cartesian Circle, stated that the
environment would benefit from a hotel and golf course.
Kathy Snell, 8 Vanderlip Drive, was concerned about
protection of the ravines, property rights, low income
housing, and asked whether organic chemicals and fertilizers
would be sued on the golf course.
Frank Oreipp, 3585 Coolheights Drive, expressed concern about
whether consideration has been given to increased water uses
on the golf course, and to increased traffic problems which
would be created by a commercial establishment.
Chris Manning, 29438 Quailwood Drive, representing Peninsula
Preservation, asked what provisions will be made by the
Council to ensure that the EIR and other environmental
documentation are audited for accurate information.
Alfred Sattler, 2235 West 25th Street, San Pedro,
representing the Palos Verdes South Bay Sierra Club, asked
about provision for geological and biological assessments for
the area.
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Director Benard noted that geological and biological surveys
will be conducted at the discretion of individual property
owners and verified by the City and /or its consultant.
L.O. Zelt, 4354 Exultant Drive, inquired about Mr.
Zuckerman's involvement in the development of the ocean
Terraces condominiums.
De De Hicks, 6120 Scotmist, spoke in support of the hotel.
Lois Knight Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, representing Lois
Larue & Associates, reviewed several of the comments that
were made by both staff and developers. She noted that the
hotel will represent a tourist resort, and urged that the
issue be placed on the ballot.
Richard Bara, 1 Peppertree Drive, was of the opinion that the
Coastal Specific Plan and the General Plan should stand as
they currently exist. He also asked if the two principal
owners are the only individuals who are involved in the
planning process.
Barbara Dye, 7035 Hartcrest Drive, Chairman of the City's
Trails Committee, clarified that the Committee has reviewed
only proposals for trails submitted as part of the original
PVLHC early plans.
J.J.D. McLaren, 3923 Palos Verdes Drive South, asked whether
the Council is rezoning the coastal zone for the resulting
revenue.
Peggy Zuckerman, 2 E1 Portal, clarified that Zuckerman
Building Company was not involved in either the development
nor construction of ocean Terrace Condominiums, and
commented that the homes proposed by Zuckerman Building
Company will be reasonably priced.
Roger Mills, 3603 Vigilante Drive, requested that development
not be conducted in a piecemeal manner.
Renata Rafferty, 30633 Rue Langlois, commented on the price
range for the homes proposed by the Zuckermans, and stated
that residents in homes in the million dollar price range may
not allow access to the coastal bluff areas.
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Mr. Herman concluded that PVLHC will respect and support the
CC &Rs and any other regulations the Council wished to place
on the property.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was duly
adjourned at 10:05 P.M.
ATTEST;
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