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PRESCREENING WORKSHOP /CITY COUNCIL & PLANNING COMMISSION
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 16, 1990
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. by Mayor Melvin
W. Hughes, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on
file. After the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, roll call
was answered as follows:
PRESENT: MCTAGGART, HINCHLIFFE, BACHARACH,
& MAYOR HUGHES.
. ABSENT: RYAN
The following planning commissioners were present: McNulty,
Von Hagen, Brooks and Katherman. Commissioner Hotchkiss was
absent.
Also present were the following staff members: City Manager
Paul D. Bussey, City Clerk Jo Purcell, City Attorney Carol
Lynch and•Environmental Services Director Robert Benard.
The Mayor announced that this prescreening workshop was being
held to achieve the purposes set forth in City Council
Resolution No. 89 -103: (1) to maximize public review at the
earliest feasible time; (2) to focus public review on the
issues of greatest significance to the community; (3) to
provide early, non - binding preliminary suggestions to
encourage economically efficient private decisions; (4) to
encourage communications between elected and appointed
officials; and, (5) to implement the General Plan and
development regulation compliance.
VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT Director Benard explained
MAP NO. 46628 - COASTAL the significance of a
SUBREGION 1 "vesting" tentative
tract map as follows:
Upon determination that the application is complete, the
applicant maintains the right to develop property pursuant to
the zoning and development standards which were in effect at
that time. Therefore, the RS -1 (RPD) standards currently
controlling development within Subregion 1 will remain in
effect as the City processes this development application.
He then proceeded to summarize the staff report of October
16, 1990 which summarized the background on this project
including the fact that this area was the subject of a
moratorium and that four previous workshops that had been
held to discuss this project. Included in the staff report
was a description of the site as consisting of 133.25 acres
of land generally located northwest of the intersection of
Palos Verde Drive West and Hawthorne Boulevard, between Palos
Verdes Drive West and the ocean; that the present zoning on
the site was RS -1 /RPD (single- family residential /residential
planned development) for approximately 97 acres of buildable
area and Open. Space Hazard for the steep bluffs and coastal*
setback area. The area is designated Single - Family
Residential (one unit per acre) and "hazard" in the City's
General Plan and Coastal Specific Plan. The staff report
contained a description of this project as consisting of 93
residential lots and one open space lot on the 133 acre site.
Dwelling units planned for the site would be detached single -
family homes; lot sizes for the subdivision would range from
a _ minimum of 18,500 sq. ft. to a maximum of 47,000 sq. ft.
Lot 94, the open space lot, would be approximately 63 acres
in size and it would be dedicated for either public open
space or for golf course use (both with multi -use trails), or
a combination of both. Primary access to the tract would be
from Palos Verdes Drive West.
The project was described as being approximately 97 acres
zoned RS -1 (RPD), allowing one unit per acre in a
residential planned development; that the project consisted
of 93 single family, reduced size residential lots,
consisting with the zoning density.
A traffic and access analysis indicated that the proposed
project would generate approximately 936 trips per weekday
with 70 trips projected during the a. m. peak hour and 94
trips anticipated during the p.m. peak hour. The analysis
concluded that no change in the level of service at affected
intersections . would occur due to the project. A traffic
study conducted indicated that the only roadway and /or
signalization improvements required would be the creation of
a four -way signal at Palos Verde Drive West /Hawthorne
Boulevard and the modification of the westbound through lane
at Palos Verdes Drive West to allow through traffic or left
turns.
The report went on to state that approximately one -third of
the length of the most seaward road in the proposed
subdivision runs close to the bluff and coastal setback line
with residential development proposed seaward of the road.
With regard to open space requirements, this project
included approximately 35 acres or 36% of the buildable area
to be set aside as public open space.
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Included in the project was a pedestrian trail throughout the
coastal bluff area which connected to a multi- purpose trail
along Palos Verdes Drive West.
Since Palos Verdes Drive West has been designated as a
continuous visual corridor in the.City's Coastal Specific
Plan, the project has the potential to impact views from that
public roadway. To address this potential blockage, the
applicant has proposed substantial grading to situate the
homes below Palos Verdes Drive, however as portions of the
elevations of Palos Verdes Drive West appear to be below
potential ridge height levels at various points along the
roadway, there may be a need to restrict some of the units to
lesser heights.
The proposed grading for this project was estimated to
require 433,450 cu. yds. of cut and 433,450 cu. yds. of fill,
balanced on the site. The fill would be used to raise pads
at lower elevations.
The project proposed 93 single- family residences to be
constructed on a custom home basis with minimum lot width
estimated to be 90 ft. and the typical lot 90 -100 ft.
Minimum lot depth would be 140 ft. and the typical lot would
be 240 -230 ft. deep. Lot coverage would be 25 %. With the
exception of lot sizes and side setbacks, the standards for
the project were generally consistent with RS -1 standards.
The size proposed for homes would be between 6,000 and 8,000
• sq. ft.
In addressing the City's Housing Element with regard to
potential for new developments contributing housing
mitigation fees to be used to subsidize existing rental
housing, the report stated that staff would evaluate the
proposal to determine an appropriate level of commitment for
this project.
In summary, the staff report noted areas of special concern:
coastal bluff road, open space, trails, grading, and
development standards.
Council discussion then covered the following issues: the
steepness and length of the project's streets and whether
they were adequate to accommodate emergency vehicles; how the
RPD designation made this project different from other
projects; the number of RPDs that have been considered to-
date; whether the coastal bluff road had been placed in a
sensitive area; if the area of the road was located near any
habitat; whether there was a significant grade differential
along Palos Verdes Drive and the adjacent homes; if the
information that was given to the previous owner of the
property had been passed along the current owner; and how
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domestic quarters would be monitored and if the area really
contained wetlands.
Representing the property owner was Bill Gilmore, 340 E. 2nd
Street, Los Angeles, who told the Council that Marifuji has
been involved in this project since last year; that they have
now obtained full title from VMS /Anden and that they would
like to get the input from the City Council, Planning
Commission and the public and answer any questions that
arise at this time.
Representing the Trails Committee was its Chairwoman Barbara
Dye who reported that the Committee had reviewed this
project. She then proceeded to present the Committee's
recommendations for Class I and II bikeways in certain areas
and a pedestrian /equestrian trail along Palos Verdes Drive
West.
David Bence, 27533 Longhill, representing the Palos Verdes
Land Conservancy, spoke in favor of preserving open space,
preservation of the wildlife habitat; and, restoration of
wetlands.
Michael Fox, 6348 Via Colinita representing Save Our
Coastline (SOC) 2000, said that this is a new Peninsula -wide
organization formed to fight overdevelopment of presently
planned projects. He read from a prepared statement. (This
statement is on file with the Agency Secretary's Office.)
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, referred to certain sections of
the Coastal Specific Plan adopted by the City in April 1981.
Gar Goodson, 1709 Via Zurita, also representing SOC, said
that he has walked the area of this proposed development and
questioned why no parking spaces were designated at Neptune
Cove. He too read from certain sections of the Coastal
Specific Plan.
-John Schoenfeld, 30565 Rue Langlois, representing the Lunada
Point Homeowners Association, said he was in favor of the
plan but was concerned about access to trails and the affect
that the road on the north side would have on the views of
homes in this project. He requested more analysis of the
view points.
Tim Burrell, 57 Marguerite Drive also spoke of an analysis of
the views of the individual lots in the project.
Maude Landon, 34 Santa Barbara Drive, requested preservation
of the natural headlands, that no dwellings be allowed
seaward of the bluff top road, that all homes be one story,
and that the semi -rural environment be maintained.
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Spencer Woodard, 30133 Via Borica, requested continued access
to a memorial site that he and some friends had planted and
had been maintaining.
John Arand, representing the Rancho Palos Verdes Council of
Homeowners Association, presented a prepared statement on
behalf of that organization. That letter cited that
organization's concerns about this proposed development.
(This statement is on file with the Agency Secretary's
Office.)
The City Council and the Planning Commission then inquired
about the various components of this project: the width of
the bluff road; sufficiency of the parking spaces; if a
determination had to be made whether a golf course should be
planned for this area; the fact that one of the lots. is a
flag lot; if the setbacks and sideyard setbacks should be
standard or enlarged; protection of the habitat; and, how
this residential planned development compared with the
Seacliff Hills RPD.
Additional discussion centered on the issue of setbacks:
whether to have wider lots or greater setbacks; and, if the
setbacks should be greater for two story homes and less for
one story. The next issue of concern was the appearance of
the homes and if they would be sculptured to the topography
of the land; if covenants could control the design of these
homes; if homes should be planned seaward of the coastal
road; and, whether a frontage road should be built into this
plan so that homes are not backing up to Palos Verdes Drive
West.
The general consensus was that the developer should consider
breaks in the rows of housing; that something other than
standard setbacks be considered; that perhaps less than 94
homes should be considered for this land; that the developer
should be sensitive to the size of the homes on the lot and
take into consideration the affects of two story homes; that
a frontage road serve some lots and a coastal road serve
others; that the coastal bluff road not run directly along
the bluffs; should a golf course be planned that it have to
be the "links "" type; that the natural habitat be protected;
that the issue of the wetlands be investigated to determine
if they are natural or the result of improper drainage.
Concern was also expressed that if this is developed on a lot
sales basis that the developer be prepared to include in the
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plans a mechanism for landscaping and controlling the
appearance of those unsold dots
ADJOURNMENT: At 8:00 P . M . the meeting adjourned on motion of
Councilwoman Bacharach, seconded by Councilman McTaggart and
carried.
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