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PLANNING WORK SESSION/CITY COUNCIL & PLANNING COMMISSION
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
I FEBRUARY 24, 1992
The meeting was called to order at 7 :05 PM by Mayor McTag-
gart, notice having been given with affidavit thereto on file.
After the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, roll call was
answered as follows.-
PRESENT: BROOKS, BACHARACH, KUYKENDALL, AND
MAYOR MC TAGGART,
ABSENT.* RYAN,
The following Planning Commissioners were present.* Alberio,
Mowlds, Hayes, Byrd, Clark, Lorenzen and Chairman Katherman,
Also present were the following staff members: City Manager
Paul Bussey, City Attorney Carol Lynch, Acting Director of En-
vironmental Services Petru and Project Planner Nancy Hutar,
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was modified to add Potential Video Taping of
Select Planning Commission Meetings.
The amended agenda was unanimously approved by the City
Council and the Planning Commission,
REVIEW OF TITLE 17 DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISIONS
Project Planner Nancy Hutar presented the staff report.
There was general consensus in support of hearing public
testimony,
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Public-Input/General Discussion
Interested parties offering input with regard to Title 17
Development Code Revisions included:
Mr. John Sharkey
Ms. Lois LaRue
Mr. John Beringer
Ms. Jeannie Smolley
Ms. Elizabeth Kelly
Ms. Dee Dee Hicks
Ms. Sharon Hegetschweiler
Mr. Ed Kennedy
Mr. Tim Burrell
Mr. Mike Kilroy
30320 Avenida de Calma
3136 Barkentine Road
3412 Seaglen Drive,
56 Limetree Lane
6611 Vallon Drive,
6120 Scotmist Drive
6 Clovetree Place
2713 Vista Mesa Drive
57 Marguerite Drive
1505 Palos Verdes Dr. W.
Interested parties addressing Title 17 Development Code
Revisions discussed.* that active recreation uses (including
golf) should not be allowed in Open Space Hazard districts; that
Open Space Hazard areas should not be considered part of the 30%
Residential Planned Development Open Space requirement,* concern
over the construction of large homes on small lots; the need to
retain natural topography; that a golf course in Subregin 7 would
be incompatible with the General Plan and zoning designation"
that access should not be allowed through Open Space Hazard
districts; that permanent structures should not be allowed in
Open Space Hazard districts; that the Open Space Hazard district
of the Portuguese Bend/Cherry Hill areas should be rezoned to
residential; whether citizens could be assessed for liability in
the event of a geologic disaster; that a project's impact on the
value of neighboring properties should be taken into account;
that array sizes and heights should be taken into consideration
in reviewing applications for antennas; that the City should re-
analyze the portion of the Commercial Antenna Ordinance which ap-
plies to residential areas; maximum square footage requirements
should be re-examined so that smaller lots cannot contain the
same size home as larger lots; more than 30% open space should be
encouraged; grading to provide a certain amount of outdoor living
space should be allowed; that bluff faces should not be included
in open space calculations; the need to address compatibility
with regard to teardowns; and the idea of encouraging varied
facade treatments and setbacks rather than limiting maximum
building sizes.
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With regard to assessing residents for liability in the
event of a geologic disaster, City Attorney Lynch advised that
State Law provides the City with immunity from liability for its
discretionary decisions and that it would be almost impossible
for a court to order a City to impose an assessment on its resi-
Staff indicated that the Commercial Antenna Ordinance is
worded to regulate commercial antennas already existing in
residential areas.
Acting Director of Environmental Services Petru explained
that, even without the inclusion of bluff faces in open space
calculations, major developments before the City at this time
have met minimum open space requirements,
The City Council and the Planning Commission discussed*
problems associated with the construction of large homes on small*
lots* interior side yard setbacks; roof slopes* requiring three-
car garages for any home above 4,000 square feet with the garage
AIM
included in allowable square feet; the articulation of first and
second stories' Y an incentive program for homes set back further
than the minimum requirement; building envelopes; Residential
Planned Development Standards; and the importance of establishing
architectural review committees.
A joint City Council /Planning Council subcommittee, consist-
ing of Councilmembers Kuykendall and Brooks and Planning Commis-
sioners Byrd, Hayes and Mowlds, was formed to examine house sizes
and setbacks in Residential Planned Development (RPD) and Single-
Family Residential (RS) Districts. The subcommittee was asked to
report back to Council in approximately six weeks.
Further discussion of RPD standards included the idea of
designing varied setbacks and second-story homes approved through
a Conditional Use Permit so that height variations would not come
back to City Council for approval,
Multi-Family Residential Districts ) (701)
City Council /Planning Commission discussion of Multi-Family
Residential (RM) districts included the idea of a requirement
that existing RM-22 land uses shall be rebuilt at the approved
land use, as well as whether future zoning changes would affect
the Housing Element. Staff was asked to research increasing
guest parking requirements for any future Multi-Family Residen-
tial development,
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Project Planner Hutar explained that there are no vacant
RM-22 parcels in the City which could be developed to the maximum
density allowed.
open space Hazard Districts and Conditional Use Permits (1804)
Discussion of Open Space Hazard districts began with Proier- - t
Planner Hutar noting staff's recommendation that various uses al-
ready allowed with a Conditional Use Permit in Open Space Hazard
districts be added to approved Open Space Hazard district uses.
City Council /Planning Commission discussion of Open Space
Hazard districts and Conditional Use Permits included whether
golf courses and structures should be allowed; factors of safety;
if uses not allowed without a Conditional Use Permit should be
permitted; if structures are allowed, whether they should be
habitable; and liability issues surrounding the construction of
structures in Open Space Hazard districts.
Staff was asked to research the construction of habitable
structures in Open Space Hazard districts and structure com-
patibility with Open Space Hazard districts. City Attorney
Lynch advised that a covenant could run with the land to include
that there is no assurance of the long-range use of the structure
even though it was constructed to meet City standards and,
should the land move, the developer would be responsible to
either move it or make other arrangements.
Further discussion of Open Space Hazard districts included
grading, stability and hydrology with regard to the construction
of structures and the installation of utilities at golf courses;
remedial vs. development grading; Staff was asked to reinstate
golf as a conditionally permitted use and to look at grading for
the establishment of structures in Open Space Hazard districts.
City Attorney Lynch advised that a developer could be
required to install pliezometers and to check them periodically to
help protect against soil saturation and slippage.
City Manager Bussey confirmed that staff will provide future
input with regard to the landslide moratorium area in terms of
historical perspective and current options available.
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Alcohol and Motor Fuel Sales (101 x 1501)
There was a brief discussion about the concurrent sale of
alcohol and motor fuel. City Attorney Lynch advised that State
legislation precludes the City from prohibiting the concurrent
sale of alcohol and motor fuel,
Antennas/Satellite Dishes (1801)
City Council /Planning Commission discussion regarding
antennas/satellite dishes began with public noticing require-
ments. City Attorney Lynch advised that, according to a
provisional State Law, any interested party who pays a fee is en-
titled to receive written notice of an antenna/satellite dish
public hearing. Staff was asked to modify the Development Code
to reflect this,
With regard to Federal pre-emption of approvals, City At-
torney Lynch called attention to the importance of balancing a
property owner's right to receive a reasonable signal and neigh-
boring resident concerns. Modifications were suggested with
regard to view impairment and Antenna/Satellite Dish Minor Ex-
ception Permit determination factors,
City Council and the Planning Commission discussed the idea
of requiring that anyone who appeals an antenna/satellite dish
decision must have addressed the Planning Commission first. City
Attorney Lynch indicated that staff will research that idea.
OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES
Acting Director of Environmental Services Petru outlined a
request from Mr. Kilroy for land to be conveyed to a non-profit
organization to keep it as permanent open space. Staff was asked
to modify the Development Code to include that land given to a
non-profit organization reverts back to the City rather than the
homeowners upon the dissolution of the non-profit organization.
There was discussion of permit requirements for accessory
structures and the related topic of Code Enforcement, Other
cities having committees which handle property maintenance were
noted. Staff was asked to place the topic of Code Enforcement on
a future agenda.
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POTENTIAL VIDEOTAPING OF SELECT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS
(307 x 1203)
There was general consensus in favor of videotaping select
Planning Commission meetings. City Manager Bussey indicated that
he and Planning Commission Chairman Katherman will work out
specifies with Acting Director -of Environmental Services Petru.
AUDIENCE QUESTIONS
Mr. J. J. D. McLaren, 3923 Palos Verdes Drive South,
expressed his concern that the City is not empowered to enforce
CC&Rs.
ADJOURNMENT
At 10:00 PM, the City Council adjourned to Tuesday, March 3,
1992, 7*000 PM and the Planning Commission adjourned to Wednesday,
February 25, 1992, 7:00 PM,
ATTEST:
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