CC MINS 19930927 JNT (2)CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
CITY COUNCIL/VIEW RESTORATION COMMITTEE
JOINT WORKSHOP
SEPTEMBER 27, 1993
The meeting was called to order at 8:50 P.M. on Monday, September
27, 1993, in the Fred Hesse Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne
Boulevard*
PRESENT: Council members Bacharach, Kuykendall,
McTaggart and Mayor Brooks.
View Restoration Committee members
Boudreau, Modell, Eastwood,
Goern, Mrs. Lorenzen, Sweetnam
and Chairman Weisz*
ABSENT: View Restoration Committee Member Black,
ALSO PRESENT: Assistant City Manager Antil, Director
of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement
Bernard, Planning Administrator Petru and
City Attorney Lynch.
Planning Administrator Petru presented the staff report. She
advised that pending litigation which suspended the View
Restoration Committee will be heard by the Court in the next few
weeks and that the Council may, therefore, wish to consider
whether any amendments to the Code would be appropriate at this
time.
Input regarding the pending litigation was supplied by City
Attorney Lynch.
As a former member of the View Restoration Committee, Mr. Edward
Murphy, 6304 Via Ciega, voiced his support of restoring views and
maintaining views,
Mr. Mel Rowan, 14 Diiamonte Lane, discouraged lacing as a viable
alternative to removing trees.
Mr. Sam Soterios, 55113 Oconto Avenue, asked to be notified when
it would be appropriate for him to reapply for a View Restoration
Permit.
City Attorney Lynch advised that individuals will be noticed when
the View Restoration Committee is reinstated.
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PHASED FOLIAGE REMOVAL
The incremental removal of foliage impairing views was discussed
and Council agreed that the View Preservation and Restoration
Ordinance should remain as it currently exists. The following
motion was offered. I
MOTION: Council member Bacharach moved that, with regard to the
incremental removal of foliage impairing views, the View
Preservation and Restoration Ordinance shall remain as it
currently exists. The motion was seconded by Council member
MoTaggart and it was so ordered without objection,
RE-VISITATION OF MAJOR VIEW RESTORATION CASES
The idea of re-visiting, re-hearing and applying different
guidelines to cases already decided by the Committee was
discussed. City Attorney Lynch advised that, unless the
Ordinance were to allow for re-visitation of specific cases, it
would be beyond the Committee's jurisdiction to do so.
Planning Administrator Petru noted a letter from View Restoration
Committee member Lorenzen regarding the recommendations included
in the staff report.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AMENDING THE VIEW PRESERVATION
AND RESTORATION ORDINANCE
The Staff recommendations were discussed as follows,
Staff Recommendation No. 1
Clarification regarding the grandfathering of foliage was
supplied by City Attorney Lynch.
MOTION: Council member MoTaggart moved for the approval of Staff
Recommendation No. 1 as follows:
Amend Section 17.02.040(B3) and the Guidelines to state
that even if an owner maintains their foliage which
exceeds the lessor of the ridgeline of the primary
structure on the lot or sixteen feet, and the height
of the foliage was as of the effective date of the
Ordinance (November 7, 1989), the owner may still be
required to reduce the height of the foliage as the
result of the issuance of a View Restoration Permit.
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The motion was seconded by Council member Bacharach and it was so
ordered without objection.
Staff Recommendation No. 2
MOTION: Council member Bacharach moved for the approval of Staff
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Recommendation No. 2 as follows,
Amend Section 17.02.040(C2b) and the Guidelines to state
that as part of the site inspection required to parti-
cipate in the public hearing, the members of the View
Restoration Committee must visit both the applicant's
and foliage owner's property.
The motion was seconded by Council member McTaggart and it was so
ordered -without objection,
The possibility of Committee members being denied access was
discussed. Council asked that language along those lines be
added to the amendment.
Committee member Sweetnam related his impression that the
Guidelines were originally designed so that the foliage owner's
property would be visited at staff's direction.
Chairman Weisz stated the Committee's position that, upon
request, the foliage owner's property would be visited,
Staff Recommendation No. 3
The sixteen foot height measurement was discussed extensively.
Chairman Weisz expressed the View Restoration Committee's
disagreement with Staff Recommendation No. 3. that the sixteen
foot measurement should be taken from the base of each shrub or
tree, regardless of its location on the lot.
Council asked Staff to further examine this matter and return
with additional 'Information.
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Staff Recommendation No. 4
Council and Committee members discussed "viewing areas,"
Clarification in that regard was provided by City Attorney Lynch
and Planning Administrator Petru. Council agreed with Staff
Recommendation No. 4 and the following motion was offered. I
MOTION: Council member Bacharach moved for the approval of Staff
Recommendation No. 4 as follows,
Amend the Height Variation Guidelines so that the
definition of "viewing area" and "best and most
important view" match the express language of
Section 17.02.040(C2cii).
The motion was seconded by Council member MeTaggart and it was so
ordered without objection.
Staff Recommendation No. 5
With regard to Staff Recommendation No. 5, Planning Administrator
Petru explained that, for consistency- purposes, the View Preser-
vation and Restoration Ordinance should be amended to 'include
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"significant view impairment."
Council member McTaggart related his disagreement with the staff
recommendation in that it would be contrary to the previous
agreement Council made with the Council of Homeowners,
MOTION. Council member Bacharach moved for the approval of Staff
Recommendation No. 5 as follows:
Amend Section 17.02.040(C2cii)
a View Restoration Permit, one
is that the "foliage exceeding
line of the primary structure,
significantly impairs a view f
ares...
so that, in order to grant
of the necessary findings
sixteen feet or the ridge-
whichever is lower,
rom the applicant's viewing
The motion was seconded by Mayor Brooks and passed by a 3-1
majority vote with Council member MeTaggart dissenting. I
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Staff Recommendation No. 6
Clarification concerning Staff Recommendation No. 6, to amend the
Height Variation Guidelines to clarify the requirement for
protecting the foliage owner's privacy, was provided by City
Attorney Lynch.
Council directed Staff to clarify language in the Guidelines
regarding "unreasonable infringement of privacy."
Chairman Weisz highly objected to wording in the staff report
about foliage owners protecting their indoor privacy through the
use of drapes, shades and opaque glass,
Staff Recommendation No. 7
Planning Administrator Petru offered input on the staff recommen-
dation to clarify that, when a View Restoration Permit includes a
hedge, if the ridgeline of the residence is below six feet, the
View Restoration Committee may require the hedge to be trimmed to
below six feet in height. However, if the ridgeline is above six
feet in height, the hedge should be referred to Code Enforcement,
Council directed Staff to clarify the language in Staff
Recommendation No. 7 and amend the Development Code and
Guidelines in concept,
Staff Recommendation No. 8
There was a consensus of Council that the staff recommendation to
require applicants to pay for City costs to hire a soils
engineer, arborist or landscape architect when deemed appropriate
by the City and requested by the foliage owner, would be very
burdensome.
MOTION: Council member Bacharach moved for the denial of Staff
Recommendation No. 8 to amend the Code and Guidelines to require
the applicant to pay for the City to hire a soils engineer,
arborist or landscape architect when deemed appropriate by the
City and requested by the foliage owner, to ensure that the trim-
ming of the foliage ordered by the View Restoration Committee
will not kill the foliage and/or result in severe erosion of the
property. The motion was seconded by Council member MoTaggart
and it was so ordered without objection.
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Council discussed the idea of non-binding arbitration as
discussed in View Restoration Committee member Lorenzen's letter
distributed earlier in this discussion* Council directed Staff
to examine the idea of forming a View Restoration Subcommittee to
look at the possibility of non-binding arbitration and whether
members of such a subcommittee would be precluded from par-
ticipating in any discussions that follow* Council suggested a
list of trees which cannot be laced and a list of criteria for
the re-examination of trees which have already be trimmed*
Committee member Lorenzen suggested the idea of benchmarking
trees which have been trimmed. She noted the importance of in-
forming residents about the status of the View Restoration
Committee.
Planning Administrator Petru indicated that the City is precluded
from enforcing benchmarking at this time because of pending
litigation.
Council advised that information on the results of pending
litigation involving the View Restoration Committee will be
disseminated to property owners*
ADJOURNMENT
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At 10*10 P.M. the meeting was duly adjourned on motion of
Councilman Kuykendalle
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MAYOR
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