CC MINS 19950121M I N U T E S
REGULAR MEETING
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
JANUARY 21, 1995
The meeting was called to order at 9:00 A.M. by Mayor Lee Byrd
at the Hesse Park Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
Following the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, roll call was
answered as follows:
PRESENT: LYON, McTAGGART & MAYOR BYRD
LATE ARRIVAL: BROOKS @ 9:09 a.m.
ABSENT: NONE
Committee and Commission members present were as follows:
PARKS & REC. COMMITTEE
Tom Hollingsworth
Christina Bothamley
Andrew Bonacich
Carol Hildreth
Edward Kennedy
Alan Weissman
PLANNING COMMISSION
Nick Mowlds, Chairman
Sonja Pedersen -Hayes
Gil Alberio
Barbara Ferraro (At 12:41 P.M.)
VIEW RESTORATION COMMISSION
Jon Cartwright, Chairman
Carole Black
Jennifer Boudreau
Larry Clark
Warren Sweetnam
Raymond Green
Alan Green
Paul Weisz
Also present were City Manager Paul Bussey, Planning Director Bret
Bernard, Parks & Recreation Administrator Ron Rosenfeld, City Clerk
Jo Purcell, City Attorney Carol Lynch and Planning Administrator
Carolynn Petru.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Councilwoman Lyon moved, seconded by
Councilman McTaggart, to approve the agenda as presented.
Motion carried.
9:00 A.M. - 11:00 A.M. JOINT MEETING WITH RECREATION & PARKS
COMMITTEE
DISCUSSION OF PRIORITIZATION OF USE OF MEASURE "A" FUNDS (1201)
Senior Citizen Use of Hesse Park & Pt. Vicente Interpretive Center
Responding to the Mayor's call for public comment on this item was
Edith Mayerson, 28815 Trailriders Drive, who spoke in favor of
having a Senior Center and said that the City would soon be
receiving petitions evidencing support for such a senior center.
Patricia Shull, 30507 Via La Cresta, stated her awareness of the
need for a senior center, but was concerned about the expense for
a new building, staffing and maintenance. With all the vacant real
estate on the Peninsula, she felt that something appropriate could
be found to serve as a senior center.
Parks & Recreation Administrator Rosenfeld presented the staff
report of January 21 and the recommendation that Council and the
Committee discuss prioritization of the remaining measure "A" park
funds,,
Discussion between the Council and the Committee covered a range of
ideas relative to the expansion of the Pt. Vicente Interpretive
Center and development of the Upper Pt. Vicente (Civic Center)
site: the impact of the City taking over operation of the tennis
courts; the effects of moving the Council Chambers to the present
Parks & Recreation Building; and, how the development of Long Point
will impact the Civic Center.
Concern was expressed whether there would be adequate funding to do
everything and it was noted that when the application was initially
made for expanding the Interpretive Center that the plans provided
for a much larger project compared to the current scaled -down
plans.
Discussion then turned to the matter of contracting for an
architect to draw the plans for the addition to the Interpretive
Center and especially how the cost of such a contract could be kept
at a minimum. The suggestion was made that perhaps a committee
should be formed to review such architectural proposals.
Additional discussion centered on the use of Hesse Park as a Senior
Center since it was accessible to public transportation, however,
it was noted that presently it lacked an adequate amount of office
space which the seniors would need. With regard to senior use of
Ladera Linda, it was clarified that only discretionary funds could
be used for that location.
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Concerning the expansion of the Interpretive Center it was stressed
how important it was to know precisely what functions would be
planned for that addition, keeping in mind the Federal Government
restrictions on the use of that property. With regard to the
property's present lease, the suggestion was made that perhaps we
should start discussions with the County about extending the lease
or turning the property over the City.
.Councilman McTaggart moved to limit expenditures on the
Interpretive Center to one -half million dollars. Discussion of the
motion clarified that the addition to the site would probably run
close to $750,000 considering that storage space, meeting rooms and
a kitchen would be needed. It was the general feeling that a
budget of $500,000 would not be practical. The motion died for
lack of a second.
Discussion again turned to the matter of an architect and how the
scope of the contract should be well defined, that project
references be sought and that the choice should be based on
background and qualifications.
With regard to the matter of additional parking spaces at the
Interpretive Center, the suggestion was made that possibly we could
use the Coast Guard Station's parking lot.
Continuing with discussion of the lower Pt. Vicente site comments
were as follows: the importance of knowing precisely what functions
the site would be used for, the necessity of moving ahead on the
selection of the architect, that the architect be familiar with
soil conditions, that the R &P Committee work with the docents in
deciding the functions and necessary square footage of the
facility, and if some of the proposed uses were indeed allowable
considering the aforementioned Federal restrictions. After the
latter determinations were made, it was felt that the costs and
facility size could then be estimated.
Use of P &R Building for Council Chambers ( 12 01 x 3 07 )
The Council and Committee next discussed the cost of renovating the
Rec. & Parks Building to a council chambers and questions arose
about the number of people the building could accommodate, if the
outside could be enhanced with a new facade, and if the current
ceiling height and acoustics were adequate to accommodate such
usage.
Mayor Byrd moved, seconded by Councilwoman Lyon that staff prepare
a preliminary plan of the construction problems associated with
renovating the P &R building to use as a Council chambers and
community meeting room. Motion carried.
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Ensuing discussion then included the direction that staff work with
the R &P Committee to look at the possibility of providing senior
office space at Hesse Park and it was stressed that the cost for
security, maint enance and staffing should be included. It was the
general consensus to set a target date of July 1997 to submit
applications for the use of Measure "A" funds. Additionally, it was
the consensus to meet in 90 days to review progress made on the
matter. 0
ABALONE COVE BEACH/SACRED COVE
Committee Chairwoman Christina Bothamley presented the January 21
report on this matter which included a summary of the Committee's
recommendations resulting from their visit to the Abalone Cove
Beach: a thorough clean -up of the area with removal of old fencing
and cement /asphalt; patching or paving the access road; adding more
sand and new picnic tables to the beach picnic area and new tables
adjacent to the parking lot; adjusting parking rates to attract
local residents; reinstating lifeguard services; adding self - guided
tour signs, advertising docent guided tidepool tours and tide
schedules and, lastly, revegetating the area with native plants.
Council and the Committee then discussed the desirability of making
Sacred Cove more accessible because of its beauty and that perhaps
an access road could be installed to provide a drop off area down
near the beach. Concern was expressed, however, that because of the
inaccessibility of Sacred Cove that it made more sense to initially
focus on Abalone Cove Beach.
Apropos the improvement of Abalone Cove Beach concern was voiced
about the environmental and coastal permit process necessary in
making this improved public access. Additionally, it was stated
that with increased access came the need for increased policing of
the area. Nonetheless, it was the general consensus that staff
should get an estimate on the cost of improving this beach area,
including maintenance, staffing and summer weekend lifeguard
service.
Council suggested that consideration be given to a policy of free
beach access to the Council, committee and commission members.
Also suggested was the use of a subscription program for parking
passes.
RECESS & RECONVENE: At 10:45 A.M. the meeting with recessed and
reconvened at 11:00 A.M. for a joint meeting with the View
Restoration and Planning Commissions.
JOINT MEETING - VIEW RESTORATION & PLANNING COMMISSIONS
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Proposed Amendments - View Preservation & Restoration ordinance:
Single vs. Multiple Viewing Areas (1806 x 1203)
Planning Administrator Carolynn Petru presented the staff report of
January 21 which contained a detailed Background of the on -going
review of the revisions to the Development Code, particularly the
section covering View Preservation & Restoration. During the course
of that review basic differences between the two Commissions
surfaced relative to the interpretation of the ordinance, most
notably the definition of "viewing area."
City Attorney Lynch opined that the current Code supported the
notion of a single viewing area and that if the City Council didn't
concur that this interpretation advances the purposes of
Proposition M, then it would be appropriate to amend the Code and
clarify that there are multiple viewing areas.
The Planning Commissioners then spoke to cases considered by them
and how they determined what was a major panoramic view versus a
minor view, the location from which such views are determined, how
the view from a second story is determined and, finally, how they
consider the primary view to be the main consideration. However,
members of the View Restoration Commission (VRC) argued that there
was room for more than one definition of view and perhaps even a
multiple view concept should be considered. Moreover, the VRC
argued that they felt that the definition of viewing area for
purposes of foliage differed from that used by the Planning
Commission for construction purposes. This opinion was based upon
the VRC 's interpretation that the lot was a viewing plane and the
view should not be restricted to just one point within a structure.
Discussion then concentrated on the necessity for consistency in
interpreting "viewing area" especially since it was the original
intent that property owners would pick the primary view out of a
360 degree arc. Further discussion emphasized the necessity of the
applicant determining a home's viewing area and the fact that the
City must agree to that determination. Disagreement existed,
however, over whether the ordinance meant "structure" or "lot" and
whether the two Commissions could indeed use two definitions of
"view" and "viewing area" inasmuch as the VRC dealt with foliage
that had grown out of control and the Planning Commission dealt
with requests to build new structures or to add onto existing ones.
Council discussion emphasized the necessity of having both
Commissions use one interpretation and it was the consensus of
Council that the term "lot" in the Ordinance related to a vacant
piece of land and not the yard area around the structure on a
developed property.
(At 12:41 Commissioner Ferraro arrived.)
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Focusing again on the definition of viewing area and significant
impairment of view, it was the consensus of Council that a viewing
area can be a room or group of rooms and adjacent outdoor living
areas that take the same vista.
Council briefly discussed the status of view restoration lawsuit
against the City and it was the consensus that the City Attorney
should prepare an update on the matter.
City Tree Permits, Unofficial Street Trees & View Covenants
Ms. Petru summarized the present policy on these matters as
detailed in the staff report.
It was the consensus that the Covenant protecting views should
explain the issue of "significant" view impairment; however, no
action was taken on the issues of City tree permits or unofficial
trees.
ADJOURNMENT: At 1:15 P.M. the meeting adjourned on motion of
Councilman McTaggart.
ATTEST:
MAY
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