CC MINS 19971118 Dog Hearing MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
NOVEMBER 18, 1997
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. by Mayor John C. McTaggart. Roll call
was answered as follows:
Present: Byrd, Hollingsworth, Ferraro & Mayor McTaggart
Late Arrival: Lyon at 6:20 P.M.
Also present were City Attorney Carol Lynch, City Manager Paul Bussey,
Administrative Services Director/City Clerk Jo Purcell, Assistant to the City Manager
Rick Otto, Senior Administrative Analyst Gina Park, and SPCA Animal Control Officer
Chuck Mauri.
Appeal of Vicious Dog Determination
City Attorney Lynch summarized the hearing process to be followed to review the
evidence and the.appellant's grounds for appeal of the October 17, 1997 Dangerous
Dog Determination.
Ms. Park presented the staff memorandum of November 18, 1997 and the
recommendation to deny the appeal, thereby upholding the Hearing Officer's potentially
dangerous determination dated October 17, 1997. Said determination having been the
result of a Dangerous Dog Hearing held on October 13, 1997 pursuant to Municipal
Code Chapter 6.32.050.
Continuing with her report, Ms. Park reported that the October 13, 1997 Dangerous
Dog hearing was conducted as a result of two reported dog bite incidents that occurred
on September 20, 1995 and September 20, 1997 and one reported dog attack that
occurred on January 10, 1996. Following the hearing the Hearing Officer concluded
that the dog in question was potentially dangerous and, based upon this conclusion,
ordered that the dog owner must comply with the following: (1) Install properly secured
fencing; (2) ensure that the dog successfully completes obedience training from a
professional dog trainer; (3) Place the dog on a leash and in a muzzle when leaving the
property; and (4) Display on the premises where the dog is kept a sign indicating the
presence of a potentially dangerous dog. The Municipal Code provides that any
interested party may appeal the decision to the City Council; consequently, the spous
of the most recent bite victim filed an appeal. The appellant believed that the dog
should be determined to be vicious and be removed from the City.
Dr. Renee Cohen (Dr. Kastenbaum's wife) testified that on September 20, 1997, Alex
escaped from the house at 30043 Matisse Drive, attacked and bit her husband Dr.
Steven Kastenbaum while he was standing outside his doorway to pick up his mail. Dr.
Kastenbaum was injured and required medical attention. There was no testimony or
evidence that Dr. Kastenbaum had made any aggressive moves at the time toward the
dog or any member of the Lukes family.
Dr. Cohen stated that Mr. Lukes did not attempt to restrain Alex nor was he able to
immediately regain control of Alex. Dr. Cohen described Alex to be out of control; she
witnessed the dog run down the street attacking moving vehicles immediately after the
incident.
Dr. Cohen testified that the City had known of prior incidents and the violent nature of
the dog. Dr. Cohen referenced the SPCA officer's comments on the January 29, 1997
incident report, which described Alex to be "vicious"with a very unpredictable
temperament and recommended that Alex be walked with a well-fitted harness and
muzzle. Testimony received from Dr. Cohen and others present at the hearing
indicated Mr. Lukes has yet to be seen walking Alex with a muzzle and Alex continues
to be a threat to the neighborhood. Dr. Cohen pointed out that the SPCA
recommendation of October 14, 1997, stated Alex should be either humanely destroyed
or be permanently removed from the City.
Dr. Cohen referred to a petition, submitted at the October 13, 1997 Dog Hearing,
signed by over 50 neighborhood residents. The petition expressed concern of Alex's
violent nature and requested Alex be removed from the City.
Lois Potter, Mattise Drive, said she liked to walk in her neighborhood, however she is
frightened by the threatening manner of Alex, Mr.. Lukes' German Shepherd. Ms. Potter
testified that while walking past the Lukes'home, Alex was barking and straining at the
leash at the time of the incident. She witnessed Mrs. Lukes topple over and be pulled
out of her wheelchair while still grasping Alex's leash, as the dog lunged towards Ms.
Potter.
(At 6:20 P.M. Councilwoman Lyon arrived and wasp resent for the remainder of the
meeting.)
Karla Schmidt, 6317 Sattes Drive, said she has seen the dog and is concerned about
the safety of her children playing in theY ard.
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Sagdish Chopra, 6317 Sattes Drive, also expressed her concern about safety when
walking in the neighborhood.
Sharon Guthrie, 6432 Le Blanc Place, related her experience that on two separate
occasions while walking her dog near 30043 Matisse Drive, Alex behaved in a
menacing manner by straining at the leash, rearing for an attack, etc. She observed
that Mr. Lukes did not have control of the dog. Mrs. Guthrie expressed her fear of
Alex. Mrs. Guthrie stated Alex would bark, growl and slam himself into the glass door
at 30043 Matisse Drive whenever people walked by. There was no testimony that Mrs.
Guthrie made any aggressive moves toward the dog or the owner to provoke any of the
incidents.
Refaat Bakhoum, 30111 Matisse Drive, explained that the dog exhibits vicious behavior
and is frightening. Additionally, he said that Mr. Lukes cannot control the dog. Mr.
Bakhoum testified that they have frequently witnessed Mr. Lukes walking Alex without a
leash and on one occasion, they could not leave their house in fear of Alex, who was
sitting on their front yard.
Charlene Chang, 30047 Matisse Drive, said that she lives next door to Mr. Lukes and
that on September 22, 1995, her dog was attacked and bitten by Alex. Mrs. Chang's
dog required extensive medical treatment and 300 stitches. Mrs. Chang's testimony
indicated that Mr. Lukes was unable to restrain his dog from attacking her dog in front
of her house.
Mrs. Chang testified that she has not seen Alex muzzled when walked until recently for
the first time with the trainer. In addition, Mrs. Chang testified that an individual
performing some work on her property was allegedly bitten by Alex within two years
ago. This incident was not reported to the SPCA.
Norm Birch, 6544 Sattes Drive, said he could confirm what Mrs. Chang had reported.
Mr. Birch testified that on January 10, 1996, the dog attacked but did not injure him
while he was walking along Matisse Drive. At the time, the dog was on a leash and Mr.
Birch testified that.Mr. Lukes could barely restrain his animal. There was no evidence
that the attack was provoked by any aggressive actions by Mr. Birch.
Dee Beaumont, 30143 Matisse Drive, said that Alex had bitten her dog; that Mr. Lukes
is not capable of controlling his dog; she had witnessed Mr. Lukes pulled.off his feet
and dragged by Alex on one occasion.
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John Lukes, 30043 Matisse Drive, the owner of the German Shepherd dog named Alex,
rebutted the remarks made by Dr. Cohen and said that Alex "nipped" but did not bite
Dr. Kastenbaum. He detailed the efforts he has made to secure his property so Alex
won't get out onto the street. Additionally, he explained that he has had a dog trainer
working with Alex for six weeks and will continue to work with him for six months to
change his behavior. He said that Alex is not a dangerous dog, but a friendly dog. He
continued to state that Alex was his wife's guide dog and that his wife is very ill and that
she would be very distraught if they were to lose Alex.
In rebuttal to Mrs. Chang's testimony, Mr. Lukes stated that while his dog was on a
leash, the Chang's dog was not and it was the Chang's dog that provoked the incident
on Mr. Lukes' property. Mr. Lukes' testimony indicated that he was not at fault. In
addition, Mr. Lukes denied that his dog bit a maintenance person working on the
Chang's property.
In rebuttal of Mr. Birch's testimony of being attacked, Mr. Lukes stated his dog never
attacked Mr. Birch.
Mr. Lukes submitted three letters from the following individuals: Gene Muntean, Kevin
Abe, and Sean Crean; all the letters indicatedp ositive contact with Alex. Mr. Muntean's
letter testified that Mr. Lukes regularly walked Alex past his house without an incident
and that his dog had gotten along with Alex forY ears. Mr. Abbe's letter indicated that
he had neither been bitten nor attacked by Alex while performing pool service duties
on Mr. Lukes' property. Written testimony from Mr. Crean, Alex' dog trainer, indicated
that Mr. Lukes and Alex have successfully completed six weeks of obedience and
socialization training. Mr. Crean's professional opinion was that with continued practice
and follow-through of techniques taught to Mr. Lukes, Alex will no longer pose a threat
to anyone.
SPCA Officer Mauri said that Mr. Lukes' property is now well secured and that Mr.
Lukes complied with all the conditions of the October 17, 1997 Notice of Determination.
Officer Mauri requested that the City send a representative to the location to verify
these measures. Officer Mauri stated that Alex was a big and unfriendly dog.
Jeff Beaumont, 30143 Matisse Drive, said that Alex did attack his St. Bernard; that
Alex overpowered Mr. Lukes. He stated his concern about futureroblems caused b
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Alex. Mr. Beaumont's testimony did not indicate where the incident occurred, what
provoked such an incident or who witnessed the incident. Mr. Lukes denied that the
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incident occurred.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman Byrd to close the public
hearing. Motion carried.
Council deliberation of this matter centered on their concern about the safety of the
neighborhood, the unpredictability of Alex's behavior, and Mr. Lukes' inability to control
the dog. At the same time, Council was sympathetic to Mr. & Mrs. Lukes' feelings
about their dog. The issue was brought up that the ordinance did allow the animal to
stay with the owner and in the event of another incident, the dog could be ordered to be
removed from the City.
It was pointed out that more first hand testimony of incidents involving Alex was
received at this appeal hearing as compared with the information available at the Staff
administered hearing on October 13, 1997. The concern was expressed that Alex may
escape from his residence at any time and cause serious injury to a child, adult or pet
within the neighborhood, if he was permitted to stay.
Councilman Byrd moved, seconded by Councilwoman Lyon to declare Alex a
dangerous dog and direct that he be removed from the premises. The motion carried
on the following roll call vote:
Ayes: Ferraro, Lyon, Byrd & Mayor McTaggart
Noes: Hollingsworth.
The meeting recessed at 7:22 P.M. to the regular City Council Agenda, on motion of
Councilwoman Lyon.
Mayor
Attest:;
City Clerk
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