CC MINS 19990719 ADJMINUTES
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
MONDAY, JULY 19, 1999
The meeting was called to order at 9:10 A.M.- by Mayor Tom Hollingsworth at the
Fred Hesse Park Community Center, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, notice having
been given with affidavit thereto on file. After the Pledge of Allegiance, roll call
was answered as follows:
Present: Ferraro, Lyon, McTaggart, Byrd, and Mayor Hollingsworth
Also present were City Manager Les Evans, Assistant City Manager Carolynn
Petru, City Attorney Carol Lynch, Director of Building, Planning & Building &
Safety Joel Rojas, City Clerk/ Administrative Services Director Jo Purcell, and
Finance Director Dennis McLean.
VIEW RESTORATION &PRESERVATION PROGRAM (1203 X 1806)
The Subcommittee (Lyon and Byrd) summarized their deliberations on this
matter which after several meetings focused on eight issues: process, pre -
application, documentation, fees, cost of foliage trimming, removal &
replacement, foliage replacement and privacy. Additionally, the Subcommittee
noted the cost of $244,390 to the City for the'administration of this ordinance
over the past twelve months and that they felt a more equitable method for
sharing this cost must be considered by the City Council.
The Council then proceeded to clarify certain elements of the View Restoration
Ordinance:
• Only changes strengthening the ordinance could be made by the
Council without going to the voters; and, that an attempt to balance
the ordinance between foliage owners and view owners would require
a vote.
• That the ordinance had been amended to add an explanation of
replacement foliage; that the guidelines had been written to provide
basic procedures for enforcement of the ordinance, one of which was
early neighbor consultation.
• Fees for administration of the ordinance have been adopted by City
Council resolution and that there was no need for voter approval of
such fee which were implemented to reimburse the City for actual
costs incurred.
Council then proceeded to listen to testimony from the following speakers:
Representing RPV Voice (Voter Information Committee for Education) was
Walter Marshall, 28817 Cedarbluff Drive, who read the "Mediation" section of
that Committee's Recommendations Summary Document. (Said document is on
file with the City Clerk's Office.)
Also representing RPV Voice was Robert Rockoff, 5525 Seaside Heights, who
summarized the One Process, View Frame, and Trimming Frame section of this
document.
VOICE Director Marty Dodell, 5751 Capeswood, summarized the Committee's
One Permit recommendation.
Lastly, VOICE Chairman Ken Dyda, 5715 Capeswood, summarized the
Committee's recommendation regarding Enforcement, Appeals and Costs.
Speaking as one of the authors of Proposition "M" was Warren Sweetnam, 7 Top
Rail Lane, who summarized the history of this proposition: that all view
impairment was considered in violation of the preservation portion of the
ordinance; that restoration dealt with views already blocked; however, the
ordinance required that before issuance of a building permit, foliage must be
removed. He questioned the fairness of requiring residents to prove what the
view was ten years ago when the ordinance was approved; and, that it was
unfair to have people pay to have their view restored.
Timothy Emke, 55224 Middlecrest Road; praised the View Restoration
Commission for a job well done, however, felt that staff was pro view. He felt
that the ordinance lacked adequate guidelines for determining "significant" view
impact; that the process should be more impartial; and, that there should be
some agreement signed by the parties as part of the mediation process;
Jon Echevarietta, 30327 Ganado Drive, stated that he felt the ordinance was
unconstitutional; that the City should not be involved in these issues between
neighbors; that implementation of this ordinance has cost the City over $1
million; and, he requested that a moratorium be imposed on enforcing this
ordinance until the courts had determined its constitutionality.
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Leonard Freeland, 28809 Crestridge, felt that the process was specific enough;
that the costs were mostly attributable to Willdan Associates; and, that because
some of the Commission members had view restoration cases pending that they
had a conflict in administering this ordinance.
Margaret Walker, 30137Avenida Tranquila, felt that some of the View
Commissions were biased in favor of views; that her view is blocked by County
trees on the Los Verdes Golf Course and that the ordinance has no control over
the blockage caused by those trees; that according to the law there is no
privilege to air, light or view over another's property; suggested some
compromise through the mediation process; and, felt that it was not necessary to
have a panoramic view. She felt that staff recommendation should be done after
the mediation process.
View Restoration Commissioner Carol Black, speaking as a private citizen,
suggested that as a means of reducing costs, that only appeals on procedural
error be heard by the Council; that costs be shared between the parties; and,
that the burden on the view owner is unreasonable:
Sonya Leitner, 29865 Knollview, suggested that the ordinance be placed on the
ballot so the voters can understand the issues. (Ms. Leitner's statement is on
file with the City Clerk's Office.)
Walter McHugh, 2222 rue le Charlene, suggested that mediation process be
separated from the pre - approval process; that a reasonable fee for the mediation
process be established; that a skilled mediator hear the matter; if a resolution is
not achieved that would be the basis for appeal.
Recess & Reconvene: At 10:00 a.m. the Mayor declared a recess. The
meeting reconvened at 10:16 A.M.
Council then started discussion of the matter: the efficacy of requiring a view
covenant and the extent of involvement and legal exposure this place on the
City; whether a view covenant could cover more than one piece of property; the
desirability of using mediation between the parties from the outset of the case; if
a City Council subcommittee could be formed to meet with the County regarding
the view blockage caused by County golf course trees; if there could be an
agreement signed by the parties involved upon the completion of the mediation
process; that the same process to be used for both preservation and restoration;
that privacy be considered in both restoration and preservation situations; what
would be considered an equitable system for sharing the costs of this process;
the process of recording the "primary" view location and the extent of staff
involvement in that process; and, when trimming is required, whether there
should be a requirement that a certain amount of foliage below the view plane
should be removed.
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Council then proceeded to address each of the seven issues outlined in the
Subcommittee's Report to the Council:
Process & Pre - Application: That mediation meetings be held prior to
staff making a determination and or recommendation on a case. With regard to
view preservation, that once a settlement is arrived at, that staff will draft up the
agreement for the parties to sign and once the work is done the view be
documented and that the photo be kept on file; that the participants get a copy of
photo to show their arborists for future trimming purposes. It was the consensus
that these amendments to the guidelines would be presented to Council at some
future meeting.
Documentation: When viewing photo documentation for view
preservation, the property owner should request that staff make site visit to
document the view and establish the primary viewing area; that staff take a
photo which will become the picture of record; that there be rigid adherence to
the application of the ordinance; that specifications be established for the kind of
camera used by the staff.
Fees: It was the consensus that staff should itemize the specific actions
involved in the view preservation and restoration process and recommend a fee
that will reflect City costs; that the persons who receive the benefit from the view
preservation process should pay some fee; that a fee be charged for the site
visit and taking the "view" documentation photo; and, that the fee for this
enforcement be reasonable.
Cost of Foliage Trimming, Removal & Replacement: These guidelines
to remain as is for the view restoration process. The view owner is required to
pay the reasonable costs of any initial foliage trimming, removal and
replacement foliage. For view preservation the foliage owner is responsible for
all cost of trimming, removal and replacement. (Policy remained unchanged.)
Foliage Replacement: These guidelines to remain as is. The view
restoration process requires that replacement foliage be provided in certain
situations. If replacement foliage is authorized, the view applicant must pay.
The foliage owner may replace foliage at his /her own expense. (Policy
remained unchanged.)
Privacy Issue: That the matter of privacy be considered with both the
view preservation and restoration process. Specific guidelines presently exist
for view restoration that can be applied to view preservation process.
Multiple fees: That each applicant be charged actual cost of restoring
their view; staff to examine alternatives for determining how true cost can be
apportioned.
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The guidelines should be amended to describe what process to follow in the
event an offending tree is overlooked during staff's inventory of the view
impairing foliage, that this be considered an act of omission and that such tree
be immediately included in trees to be trimmed /removed; if it felt that staffs
determination is incorrect then the involved parties have opportunity to appeal
the staff or commission decision.
Subcommittee (Lyon /Byrd) to meet with Supervisor Knabe regarding the County
golf course trees, and finalize these issues for Council's approval. The draft
amendments to be presented to the Council for review on September 7, 1999.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS: Responding to the Mayor's call for audience
comments for items not on the agenda were the following persons:
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine, thanked the Council for conducting the workshop
on this matter; questioned how photographs for views will be done; and spoke to
the closed session Brown Act Checklist on the July 15 and July 20 agendas.
Katina McHugh, 2222 rue le Charlene, questioned who determined the viewing
area.
ADJOURNMENT: At 11:40 A.M. Councilwoman Ferraro moved to adjourn the
meeting.
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