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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
July 6, 1999
The meeting was called to order at 6:30 P.M. by Mayor Hollingsworth at Fred Hesse
Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, and was immediately recessed to a
closed session per the Brown Act Checklist attached to the Redevelopment Agency
agenda. The meeting was reconvened at 7:05 P.M. After the Pledge of Allegiance, roll
call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Byrd, Ferraro, Lyon, McTaggart, and Mayor Hollingsworth
ABSENT: None
Also present were City Manager Les Evans; Assistant City Manager Carolynn Petru;
City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Planning, Building & Code Enforcement Joel
Rojas; Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Director of Finance Dennis McLean;
Senior Planner Greg Pfost; Associate Planner Ara Mihranian; and, Recording Secretary
Jackie Drasco.
RECYCLE DRAWING: (1204 x 1301)
Mayor Hollingsworth announced that Lois Jester was the winner for the month of June
and would receive one year of free refuse service. Another name was drawn and
Mayor Hollingsworth stated that excess recycling funds had made possible drawings
twice a month.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Councilwoman Ferraro moved, seconded by Mayor pro tem Byrd, to approve the
agenda. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Councilwoman Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to approve the
Consent Calendar, as follows:
Waiver of full reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this meeting
with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all council members after
the reading of the title.
Minutes (301)
Approved the minutes of June 1, 3, 14, 1999, as presented, and June 15, 1999, as
amended.
May 1999 Treasurer's Report (602)
Received and filed the May 1999 Treasurer's Report for the City of Rancho Palos
Verdes and all of its component units (i.e., Redevelopment Agency and the
Improvement Authority).
Loan Agreement between the City and the Redevelopment Agency (602 x 1900)
Authorized the Mayor and the City Clerk to execute the proposed loan agreement
between the City and the Redevelopment Agency.
Notice of Completion for the Lower Hesse Park Trails Project (PW 9833) and
Upper Hesse Park Stairway and Landscaping (1201 x 1204)
1) Accepted the work as complete; (2) Authorized the City Clerk to file a Notice of
Completion with the County Recorder; and, if no claims are filed 35 days after
recordation, and upon the contractor posting an acceptable warranty bond, notify the
surety company to exonerate the Payment and Performance bonds; and (3) Authorized
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the Finance Director to release the 10% retention payment, to Thomsen Landscape, 35
days after recordation of the Notice of Completion by the County Recorder contingent
upon no claims being filed on the project, and the contractor posting an acceptable
warranty bond.
Professional Services for the Sea Cave exhibit for Point Vicente Interpretive
Center Expansion (1201 x 1204)
(1) Awarded a contract in the amount of $8,700.00 to Michael Jurdan, Inc. for
professional services related to the sea cave exhibit, and authorized the expenditure of
up to a total 'of $9,700.00. (2) Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to execute a
contract with Michael Jurdan, Inc; and, (3) Authorized the expenditure of up to $3,000
for professional services with Ron Yeo, Architects, Inc. for services related to the sea
cave Exhibit.
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Claim against the City by Laurie Younggren (301 x 303)
Rejected the claim and directed the City Clerk to notify the claimant.
Claim against the City by Judy Handler (301 x 303)
Rejected the claim and directed the City Clerk to notify the claimant.
Scenic turnout project: authorization for additional professional services (1204)
Authorized additional professional services with Transtech Engineers, Inc., in an
amount not to exceed $6,000 for services related to the design of two scenic turnouts
along Palos Verdes Drive West and along Palos Verdes Drive South.
Request for waiver of application fees for Variance No. 454 (Nassif) (1203)
Granted the fee waiver.
Resol. No. 99 -53 - Register of Demands (602)
ADOPTED RESOL. NO. 99 -531 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS
AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Byrd, Ferraro, Lyon, McTaggart, and Mayor Hollingsworth
NOES: None
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Ocean Trails — Revision "J" (1203 x 1411)
Mayor Hollingsworth opened the public hearing on this request to Amend Conditional
Use Permit No. 163, et al. Assistant City Manager Petru announced that notice had
been duly published, that protest letters had been included in the agenda packet, and
that additional protest letters were furnished to the Council just prior to the beginning of
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the meeting.
Senior Planner Pfost presented the staff report of July 6, 1999, and the
recommendation to adopt the proposed resolutions approving (1) Addendum No. 9 to
Environmental Impact Report No. 36; (2) Conditional Use Permit No. 162 - Revision "J ";
approving Conditional Use Permit No. 163 — Revision "J", Vesting Tentative Tract Map
No. 50666 — Revision "J", Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 50667 — Revision "J "; and,
Revision "J" to the Public Amenities Plan, thereby permitting various amendments to
the Ocean Trails project. He indicated that the developer had withdrawn two requests
regarding view covenants and street signs.
Council discussed the restrictions on establishing a Maintenance District; the posting
of a bond to ensure maintenance; and, the critical need to regulate irrigation. Other
topics of discussion were the developer's withdrawals of the requests to remove the
view covenants and to approve street signs; limiting foliage to 16 feet; timing of the
installation of ornamental fencing, the fact that the requested clubhouse basement
would have no effect on the height of the structure; the split -level design of the homes
which would eliminate the need to import 80,000 cubic yards of fill; and, monitoring of
the proposed early morning mowing schedule
Ken Zuckerman, 1 Ocean Trails Drive, spoke to withdrawal of the request to eliminate
the view covenants.
Major L. Cohn, 4015 Exultant Drive, expressed concern about impact of the project on
Palos Verdes Drive South and the availability of sufficient information.
Jeff Sax, 4022 Admirable Drive, felt that the developer's requests for changes were not
critical and that he'was given more consideration than the community.
David Potter, 2221 Baleria Drive, San Pedro, CA 90732, stated his concerns that the
project had caused irreversible environmental damage; the delay in paying the traffic
impact fees; the possibility of mowing at 2:00 A.M.; and setting a precedent for future
developers. (He provided a computer - generated image of the clubhouse which is on
file in the City Clerk's Office)
Elizabeth Sax, 4022 Admirable Drive, questioned the accuracy of images posted by the
developer; suggested that building pads be lowered; and, that the soil removed from
the pads be placed in the crevice created by the landslide.
Louise Shipman, 3948 Admirable Drive, felt that there were many errors in the view
analysis; questioned the perspective of the analysis; inquired if the homes would still
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be lower than Palos Verdes Drive South; and, submitted photographs to substantiate
her concerns
Uday Pati I, 4011 Palos Verdes Drive South, said that the staff report received only last
Friday included too many major issues to be studied in a short time and he requested a
continuance. He questioned the wisdom of continuing to develop the property after the
landslide and felt that the City had not furnished enough information to residents
regarding the slide.
Mayor Hollingsworth said since it was not specifically on the agenda, comments
regarding the landslide should be held for the Audience Comments portion of the
agenda.
Council commented that an oral report on the landslide was given at the previous
Council meeting; that forensic geology was being performed but that no results were
available; and, that there would be full disclosure when information was available.
Joseph Wang, 3913 Palos Verdes Drive South, said that the clubhouse blocks views
and the proposed trees would only add to the bulk of the structure. He stated that the
design guidelines address views from Palos Verdes Drive South, not from any
particular home, and the view from the highway should be protected. He stressed the
importance of verifying that the pad level would be graded to the level actually
specified and was concerned about the ongoing earth removal after the landslide.
Jabe Kahnke, 4003 Palos Verdes Drive South, questioned the need for the nine
revisions requested by the developer and the wisdom in continuing to grade; stated that
the view analysis was too simplistic; and, that the developer's photographs did not
show the coastline view which was lost
Sharon Solari, 4145 Palos Verdes Drive South, President of Seaview Homeowners
Association, discussed her request that Uday Patil be allowed extra time to speak for
the 270 members of the Seaview Homeowners Association.
Council consensus was that Mr. Patil be would given additional time to speak.
Uday Patil, said that the developer's view analysis from only two locations was
incomplete; was not acceptable because residents had asked for information regarding
a percentage of view lost, not merely a reporting of a number of feet below the level of
Palos Verdes Drive South. He felt that the offer to build split -level homes in return for
less soil import was a means to help the developer, not to improve views for the
residents.
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Mary Casaburi, 3941 Palos Verdes Drive South, spoke in opposition to the split -level
homes; the height of the clubhouse; the palm trees near the clubhouse; and, the
possible mowing of the lawns in the early morning.
Richard Casaburi, 3941 Palos Verdes Drive South, said that he did not understand the
tables; could not trust the drawings to be true; and, wondered why the pads could be
lowered by building split -Level homes when staff had said no further lowering of the
pads was possible.
Recess and Reconvene: At 8:40 P.M., Mayor Hollingsworth declared a recess. The
meeting reconvened at 8:55 P.M.
Michael Sribney, 32415 Nautilus Drive, President of Nautilus Homeowners Association,
stated that many residents were unhappy over losing their views but the City gained the
straightening of Palos Verdes Drive South, parks, and land set -aside for conservation
at no cost. He described the petition he had circulated and urged the Council to correct
the injustice to the community.
Craig Douglass, 32410 Nautilus Drive, stated that the Council could not change past
approvals but they now had an opportunity to make up for the past mistakes. He
objected to the split -level homes; indicated his lost view on the posted drawings; and,
asked the Council to review the letter he had sent.
Moe Derek, 32405 Nautilus Drive, stated that he did not object to the golf course but to
the views being lost. He said that the Council had told residents if they had spoken up
sooner, the situation would have been different and now there was an opportunity to
improve the views since the final grading had not been completed. He asked for the
Council's help to retain the 30% view he still had.
Ray Green, 3200 La Rotondo, #406, objected to the clubhouse being built on 27 feet of
fill and said that trees near the clubhouse could block his view of Abalone Cove. He
felt that the hours of golf course maintenance should be restricted just like any other
business.
Chip Zelt, 41200 Sea Horse Lane, was concerned about privacy, not view loss, and felt
the entire project should be put on hold until there was adequate discussion to re -plan
it.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, described her appeal to the Coastal Commission,
and the Commission's requirement that the chemicals used on the golf course *be
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deposited into three lakes on the golf course and hauled offsite.
David Pallinger, 32700 Coastsite, Project Manager for Ocean Trails, described long
hours spent meeting with residents and many phone calls, stating that Mr. Zuckerman
had given direction to his staff to have an "Open Door" policy. He said that the
dimensions regarding the clubhouse were incorrect and that pad heights could not be
lowered further because of engineering principles regarding restricting the steepness of
the streets from Palos Verdes Drive South and drainage. He discussed the relocation
of the sewer, which would not be affected by the height of the pads because it was in
open space.
Barbara Dye 1 Ocean Trails Drive, representing Ocean Trails, displayed a chart which
indicated that the clubhouse was built on 16 feet of fill and testified to the thoroughness
and accuracy of the view analysis. She stated that there was only one home which was
higher (one foot) than the level of Palos Verdes Drive South and that the clubhouse
was the only structure over 16 feet high and that had been approved by the City.
Ken Zuckerman stated that he had instructed his civil engineer to reduce the heights of
the pads as much as possible and that there would be no view obstruction by the split -
level homes and some views would be improved. He explained that some grading was
delayed because of nesting gnatcatchers but that grading near landslide "K was
complete; there was no grading closer than about 50 feet from a sewer; and, that the
sewer line needed to be upgraded to modern standards but there was no risk to public
safety. He stated that the trail will not exist until the street is paved; that he had worked
with the Ocean Terraces Homeowners Association regarding the maintenance
schedule, which was similar to other courses on the Peninsula; and, that it was his
intent to address complaints from homeowners as soon as they come to his attention.
He said that he believed the view analysis was accurate and he described his methods
of communicating with the nearby homeowners
Craig Douglass questioned the accuracy of elevation information received from the
Ocean Trails staff, particularly in reference to mounds on the property.
Elizabeth Sax objected to the tree view analysis drawings shown with the structures
removed.
Mike Sribney felt that view analysis should be taken from more than two locations and
said that residents on Nautilus had asked for an analysis from their street. He felt that
there was insufficient information and that Catalina views would be lost.
David Pallinger explained that the mounds were to mitigate noise for Ocean Terraces
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and said that the view analysis from Nautilus would be provided.
Staff confirmed that the depth of fill under the clubhouse ranged from 10 feet to 18 feet
and that the Coastal Specific Plan required that the view analysis be taken from a
standing position in the middle of the highway.
Council then discussed maintenance of the golf course and control of irrigation,
including whether it would be possible to restrict watering on residential parcels
There being no objection, Mayor Hollingsworth closed the public hearing.
Council consensus was to approve the fencing proposal from the developer and they
acknowledged the delay in completing the trails, contingent on the paving of the street.
After discussing the split -level homes, and the trees at the clubhouse, Council
consensus was to allow the split -level homes but to delay a decision on the trees until a
later date. The payment of traffic impact fees was considered a non -issue because
there was insufficient information to calculate the fees at this time.
A discussion of the proposed basement clarified that the Council had no objection to
this addition to the clubhouse.
Regarding the schedule for golf course maintenance, Council consensus was that
close monitoring was necessary and that procedures should be in place to address
resident complaints immediately and to make changes quickly when necessary.
The Council summarized their consensus on the following:
Item No. 1, Formation of a Maintenance District. To accept the maintenance bond but
address further the control of irrigation.
Item No. 2, View Covenants: The covenants will remain in place
Item No. 3, Timing of Ornamental Fencing: Approved
Item No. 4, Timing of Trails Construction: Acknowledgement that the trails will be
completed in conjunction with the paving of the road.
Item No. 5, Residential Buildinq Pad Changes (split -level homes) and Clubhouse
Landscaping: Split- levels will be allowed, but the landscaping issue would be decided
at a later d ate
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Item No. 6, Traffic Impact Fees: The fees would be paid when required information was
available.
Item No. 7, Increase in Building Area (Basement) For The Clubhouse: Approved
Item No. 8, Street Signs: Withdrawn by the developer for discussion at a later date
Item No. 9, Hours Permitted for Golf Course Maintenance: Language will be brought
back to the next meeting to address a procedure for insuring that residents are not
unduly disturbed.
Council consensus was to agendize a general discussion of the landslide at a future
Council meeting which would include: information regarding landslide "A" (specifically,
golf holes, sewer location, and work required in this area); a general discussion of all
three landslides on the property; and, the cracks on Palos Verdes Drive South.
After Council discussion of allowing one speaker representing a group of speakers to
speak longer, the consensus was that this was a possibility if arrangements were made
prior to the meeting.
Council then re- opened the public hearing and continued it to July 20, 1999, to discuss
the unresolved issues of irrigation control throughout the entire project, and a complaint
monitoring procedure and permitted schedule for golf course maintenance.
Recess and Reconvene: At 10:45 P.M., Mayor Hollingsworth declared a recess. The
meeting reconvened at 10:55 P.M.
An Appeal of the Planning Commission's Approval of Tentative Parcel Map No.
24679 (1203 x 1410)
Mayor Hollingsworth opened the public hearing on this request for an appeal of the
Planning Commission's approval of Tentative Parcel Map No. 24679 at 5251 Rolling
Ridge Road. Because he is acquainted with the. parties involved, Mayor Hollingsworth
recused himself from the discussion and left the dais. Assistant City Manager Petru
announced that notice had been duly published and that all protest letters received by
the City had been included in the agenda packet
Associate Planner Mihranian presented the staff report of July 6, 1999 and the
recommendation to adopt the proposed resolution denying the appeal and conditionally
approving Tentative Parcel Map No. 24679 allowing the lot split of a 65,394 square foot
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lot into two lots, within the RS -2 zoning district, on property located at 5251 Rolling
Ridge Road.
Mr. Mihranian reported that there are approximately 49 parcels in the area, 29 of them
under one acre, and that the subject property potentially could be divided again to
make three lots large enough to build a house on each which would comply with
setback requirements. He explained that a house on the subject lot was demolished
two years ago and that there was a permit for the demolition and remedial minor
grading. The remedial grading permit, however, had expired.
Deborah Pole, 5241 Rolling Ridge Road, stated that she and her husband lived on a
1.5 -acre parcel adjacent to the subject property on the north side. She urged the
Council to reject the recommendation based on the lack of neighborhood compatibility,
explaining that the neighborhood was composed of large lots. She requested that the
Council consider a zoning amendment to require minimum one -acre lots to prevent lot
splits in the future.
Douglas Trowbridge, 5333 Rolling Ridge Road, explained that there three large lots in
a row and the house on the subject property (the middle lot) had been torn down. The
proposed lot split (which was not in equal halves), meant that it could be split again to
allow the building of three houses where one had previously existed. He stated that the
neighbors wished to reserve any and all legal recourse at the administrative level and
that, even though his lot was only three - fourths of an -acre, he would not object to the
minimum one -acre lot zone change.
Robert Brown, 5241 Rolling Ridge Road, said that he was opposed to the subdivision
and was concerned about inadequate notification by the City.
Helen Graux, 5317 Rolling Ridge Road, said that she has a 1.5 acre parcel and wished
to retain her privacy and view. She explained that Mr. Florance had originally said he
was oin to build a home for himself on the property but then changed his mind.
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Robert Bothner, 5040 Palos Verdes Drive North, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that his
parcel of just under two acres was adjacent to the subject property (at the rear); that he
agreed that the division of the lot would change the character of the neighborhood; that
the area had been zoned for larger lots of % to one -acre lots prior to the incorporation
of the City; and, that he acknowledged the right to a profit by the property owner but not
if it adversely affects values of surrounding properties
William Slagg, 5087 Rolling Ridge Road, said that the manner in which the lot was
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being divided would not be compatible with contiguous lots but that he would not object
if it were divided into two equal halves.
Ron Florance, 5251 Rolling Ridge Road, said that he concurred with the staff report,
that there was compliance with all City, County and State regulations, and that he
believed the subdivision should be approved. He described other parcels on Rolling
Ridge and the general vicinity, focusing on the steepness and buildable area of these
lots.
Ms. Pole, speaking in rebuttal, describing the three months of grading at the subject
property which she said created a lot of dust. She explained that her home is built on a
three -lot parcel.
Mr. Florance said that the remedial grading was necessary because the footings in the
previous home were very deep and that the soil had to be recompacted; that he did not
know the permit had expired; that the work had been performed by a licensed
contractor and inspected by an engineer; and, that the grading took longer than was
expected because the construction company was pulled away temporarily for
emergency work for a landslide on Deep Valley Drive.
Michael Nichols, Lanco Engineering, 1010 Crenshaw Boulevard, Suite 200, Torrance,
CA 90501, said that he believed that there was a grading permit from -the City; that a
licensed contractor performed the work; and, that grading was necessary to recompact
the soil after the house was removed.
Mayor pro tem Byrd closed the public hearing.
Council discussion focused on the semi -rural atmosphere of the neighborhood and the
merits of re- zoning versus the nonconformity status it would place on some
homeowners.
City Attorney Lynch opined that re- zoning, not lack neighborhood compatibility, would
prevent lot splits.
Council consensus was to poll other property owners in the neighborhood to determine
possible opposition to the re- zoning and subsequent nonconforming lots.
Mayor pro tem Byrd re- opened the public hearing to ask Mr. Florance if he would
consider dividing the property in two equal halves and he said he would not.
Mayor pro tem Byrd closed the public hearing.
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Councilwoman Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to uphold the
appeal and to explore a zoning change and possible moratorium, polling the
neighborhood for input.
City Attorney Lynch explained that these options had to be considered within a certain
time frame and the issues were agendized for a meeting on Thursday, July 15, 1999, at
4:00 at Hesse Park.
City Attorney Lynch clarified that a resolution denying the appeal would be brought
back to the Council on July 15 and zoning issues would be discussed at that time.
Mayor Hollingsworth returned to the dais.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
Sponsorship request from the County of Los Angeles for its 150t'' Birthday
Celebration (305 x 1101)
After Council discussion, Council consensus was to decline a sponsorship because of
the high cost, unless the other Peninsula cities wished to combine efforts. City
Manager Evans was asked to investigate this possibility.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS:
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, expressed her opposition to development at
Abalone Cove.
ORAL CITY COUNCIL REPORTS:
Mayor Hollingsworth announced that the current waste disposal contract would expire
in February 2000 and that there would be a community meeting at Hesse Park on July
14 at Hesse Park at 7:00 P.M. to receive input from residents in preparation for
negotiation of a new contract.
REPORT ON CLOSED SESSION:
City Attorney Lynch clarified that there was one case, not three as shown on the
agenda. She reported that the Council directed that the City take action so that the
homeowner's view is restored, including litigation, if necessary. (4 -0 -1, with
Councilwoman Ferraro abstaining) that the homeowner's view be restored.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Adjourned at 12:15 A.M. to Thursday, July 15 at 4:00 P.M., at Hesse Park on motion of
Mayor Hollingsworth.
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