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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 6, 2001
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 P.M. by Mayor Lyon at Fred Hesse Community
Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard. After the Pledge of Allegiance, roll call was
answered as follows:
PRESENT: Byrd, Ferraro, McTaggart, Stern, and Mayor Lyon
ABSENT: None
Also present were City Manager Les Evans, Assistant City Manager Carolynn Petru;
City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Planning, Building, and Code Enforcement Joel
Rojas; Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Director of Finance Dennis McLean; City
Clerk/Administrative Services Director Jo Purcell; Senior Planner Greg Pfost; and,
Recording Secretary Arlene Jaentsch.
RECYCLING DRAWING:
The winner from the first meeting in December was Juliano Solari and for January the
winner was Al D'Amico. Each will receive a check for $250, which represents a year of
free refuse service. Another card was selected.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro to approve the agenda.
Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Councilwoman Ferraro moved, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem MCTaggart, to approve the
consent calendar. Motion carried.
Minutes (301)
Adopted the Minutes of January 8 as presented and the minutes of January 16, 20017
as amended.
Claim Against the City by Walter Krause
Rejected the claim and directed the City Clerk to advise the claimant of Council's
action.
RESOLUTION NO. 2001 -227 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES AMENDING RESOLUTION 3000 -33, THE BUDGET
APPROPRIATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2000 -2001, FOR A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT
TO THE CITY'S CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND.
Funding Request for Beverage Container Recycling and Litter Cleanup Activities
FY 2000 -2001 (1204 x 1301)
(1) Authorized the submittal of the funding request form to the Department of
Conservation's Division of Recycling for funding programs related to beverage
container recycling and litter cleanup activities for FY 2000 -2001. (2) ADOPTED
RESOLUTION 2001 -23, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
RANCHO PALOS VERDES AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO
EXECUTE ALL NECESSARY FORMS FOR THE PURPOSES OF SECURING
PAYMENTS, AND IMPLEMENTING AND CARRYING OUT THE PROGRAMS.
Professional Services Agreement with Helix Environmental Planning, Inc. (I 101 x
604)
Awarded a Professional Services Agreement to Helix Environmental Planning, Inc. in
the amount of $33,700 to prepare the CEQA documentation and to obtain federal and
state permits for the San Ramon Drainage Project, and authorized the Mayor and the
City Clerk to execute the Agreement.
January 2001 Treasurer's Report (602)
Ordered receive and filed.
Resol. No. 2001 -24 - Register of Demands (602)
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2001 -241 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Byrd, McTaggart,
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Ferraro
REGULAR BUSINESS:
Stern, and Mayor Lyon
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Ocean Trails — A proposed revision to the Conditions of Approval regarding the
re- construction of Palos Verdes Drive South.
Mayor Lyon opened the public hearing on this request to consider a proposed revision
to the Conditions of Approval regarding the re- construction of Palos Verdes Drive South
relative to the Ocean Trails project. City Clerk Purcell announced that notice had been
duly published and that all written comments were included in the agenda packet.
Director Allison presented the staff report of February 6, 2001 and the recommendation
to (1) Adopt the proposed resolution, approving Addendum 12 to EIR 36 for Revision
"Q" to Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 50666. (2) Adopt the proposed resolution, a
resolution approving Revision "Q" to Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 50667, revising
the conditions of approval to permit the developer to re- construct La Rotonda Drive
instead of re- constructing Palos Verdes Drive South from La Rotonda Drive to the
eastern City boundary.
Council discussion focused on whether the county was partially responsible for the
condition of the road due to faulty original construction before the City of Rancho Palos
Verdes was incorporated. Further discussion revealed that the road has lasted 30
years and according to staff was never resurfaced, only slurry sealed a few times.
Council consensus was that it would not be a good use of city resources to investigate
the history of the road's construction or seek reparation from the county.
City Attorney Lynch stated that it is the responsibility of Ocean Trails to repair the road.
City Manager Evans explained that the developer is responsible to repair the road to
the original condition before construction began, however, in this case the road
condition before construction would not be desirable.
Ken Zuckerman, One Ocean Trails Drive, representing Ocean Trails, stated that he was
present to answer questions. Ocean Trails is proposing to improve the road to a better
condition for the benefit of current and future residents.
Council inquired whether the habitat watering was in some part responsible for the
cracks and Mr. Zuckerman said that consultants did not believe that habitat irrigation
caused the cracks in Palos Verdes Drive South. He offered to have his consultant meet
with the city's geologist to discuss this issue.
Barbara Dye, representing Ocean Trails, stated that it is important to them to
reconstruct La Rotonda and they are willing to spend the extra funds. It is beneficial to
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considering costs.
Vic Quirarte, 29319 Quailwood, questioned concepts in the staff report that seemed to
pit conservationists against developers and felt that the City had been allowing
developers to slow the NCCP process. He felt that the majority of residents were
opposed to using City property for a portion of a golf course and compared this concept
to Ocean Trails, stating that Mr. Zuckerman had not requesting the use of City land for
his development.
Dena Friedson, 1737 Via Boronada, felt that Alternative "A" was the only plan which
met the conservation goals of the NCCP and was concerned about maintaining links
between habitat areas and protection of native vegetation. She urged the Council to
include Upper Point Vicente Park in the preserve regardless of the plan approved.
Barbara Gleghorn, 28850 Crestridge Road, speaking for the Steering Committee for
SOC II, stated that the resource agencies considered Upper Point Vicente Park to be
an important area for protecting the gnatcatcher. She stated that keeping public land
for public use would minimize acquisition costs; maximize conservation; and, continue
compliance with the agreement with the federal government when the land was granted
to the City. She said that she favored Alternative "A" but urged the Council to consider
the SOC II proposal if the Upper Vicente Park was not included in the NCCP. (A letter
including Ms. Gleghorn's comments is on file with the City Clerk's Office.)
Jim Knight, 5 Cinnamon Lane, spoke in opposition to Alternative "C" because it not
include Upper Point Vicente Park and he wondered if it was because of the proposed
golf course. He emphasized that the NCCP plan adopted should protect the
gnatcatcher and preservation of Upper Point Vicente Park would contribute to this
protection. He felt that if the NCCP was going to be successful there needed to be a
balance between development and the needs of the City and the environment and he
urged the Council to consider the proposal presented by SOC II at the January 16,
2001 Council meeting. (A letter including Mr. Knight's comments is on file with the City
Clerk's Office.)
Angelika Brinkmann -Busi, 2141 West 35th Street, San Pedro, South Coast Chapter of
California Native Plant Society, spoke in opposition to Alternative "C" because it did not
include Upper Point Vicente Park in the preserve and said that this area was important
for the gnatcatcher and for a connection to other habitat areas. She was concerned
about the bubble concept because it had no clearly defined criteria and because of the
plan to remove all habitat in the bubble areas and then restore part of it which would
greatly impact the quality of the habitat. She also felt that the development would the
bubble areas should be reduced to 25 %.
Jess Morton, 787 West 4th Street, San Pedro, CA 90731, Endangered Habitat League,
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Council consensus was that Ken Zuckerman could not be held responsible for road
conditions before Ocean Trails construction began; that it was important to continue to
investigate the cause of the slippage on Palos Verdes Drive South; and if it is
determined that Ocean Trails is responsible then the developer should pay for road
repairs.
City Attorney Lynch indicated that there is no wording in the present resolution that
would excuse Ocean Trails from the obligation if it were determined that Ocean Trails
caused the slippage.
Council was in agreement that the condition of La Rotonda Drive is substandard; that
resurfacing only would be a waste of money; and that reconstructing Palos Verdes
Drive South was a separate issue to be addressed later.
Director Allison stated that monitoring shows that movement has slowed and nearly
stopped.
Ken Zuckerman asked for clarification regarding how the city would determine the
cause of damage to Palos Verdes Drive South and felt that his attorney should have
been present.
City Attorney Lynch indicated that Mr. Zuckerman's attorney would have an opportunity
to review the revised resolutions before the meeting on February 20tH
Council consensus was to continue the public hearing to February 20, 2001, when
resolutions would be submitted.
Ocean Trails — A proposed revision to the Conditions of Approval regarding the
project's affordable housing requirements
Mayor Lyon opened the public hearing on this request to consider a proposed revision
to the Conditions of Approval regarding the revision to the Conditions of Approval
regarding Ocean Trail's affordable housing requirements. City Clerk Purcell announced
that notice had been duly published and that all late correspondence received had been
distributed to the council.
Given the late correspondence for this article City Attorney Lynch suggested that the
council recess briefly to discuss the current lawsuit as well as the proposed litigation.
Recess & Reconvene:
At 8:00 P.M. Councilman Byrd moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro to recess to
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aired on the Cox local government access channel so residents could be made aware
of the hazard that might result from the L. A. Port project. (Literature giving further
details of Ms. Gunter's comments is on file with the City Clerk's Office.)
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, related incidents during the groundbreaking for the
expansion of the Point Vicente Interpretative Center and at the recent Whale of a Day
event; praised the City for awarding a contract to women engineers; and reported that
there was going to be a meeting at Rolling Hills Estates City Hall to protest increased
water rates.
Kathy Snell, 8 Vanderlip Drive, stated that annually 900 wild animals are trapped in the
City by Los Angeles County and euthanized. She requested that the City newsletter
advise residents how to avoid attracting wild animals to their property.
Richard Bara, 1 Peppertree Drive, reported, not as Chair of the Equestrian but as a
private citizen, that an unofficial sub - committee was working on the establishment of a
Rancho Palos Verdes Equestrian Center. He emphasized that this planning incurred
no cost to the City and no City staff time and that the subcommittee would report its
findings to the Equestrian Committee which would then report to the City Council. Mr.
Bara indicated the tentative 30 -acre location on a map and explained that the purpose
of the center would be to ensure that the Ride to Fly to Fly and Pony Club programs
would have a site to continue their operations.
Rowland Driskell, 30 Via Capri, representing the Villa Capri development, said that a
petition signed by homeowners indicated that almost all of the residents felt the City
should not give up public land at City Hall to a private developer.
Removal of Debris from a Canyon Outside the City Right -of -Way (1204 x 1200)
Council consensus was to continue to the meeting on April 3, 2001 to provide an
opportunity for the residents in that particular area to speak.
Landslide Geology —Zone II (1101 x 1801)
City Manager Evans presented the staff report of March 6, 2001 and the
recommendation to authorize the expenditure of $30,000 of general fund reserves for a
review by Cotton, Shires and Associates of existing geologic and geotechnical
documents to determine whether the data is sufficient to support the conclusions of the
Peer Review Group to allow development in Zone II under certain conditions. Using a
computer generated visual presentation, he showed a map with the eight zones in the
moratorium area established by Dr. Perry Ehlig.
Council discussion centered on a comparison of Zones One and Two, regarding current
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Diane Weinberger, 4206 Exultant Drive, asked if underground parking would be
possible; said that there had been parking problems during the Concours d'Ele g ance
car show, and wondered if the original project plan had included adequate parking.
Uday Patil, 4011 Palos Verdes Drive South, asked why the parking lots were full when
all the Ocean Trails facilities were not yet open. He questioned the accuracy of the
anticipated parking requirements in the Environmental Impact Report.
Lawrence Vivian, 2324 West 37th Street, Can Pedro, CA 90732, Conservation Chair for
South Bay Sierra Club, was disturbed that the City was giving the developers options in
light of pending legal action.
Craig Douglass, 32420 Nautilus Drive, discussed Ocean Trails issues raised in previous
Council meetings and made the following suggestions: (1) Reduce the height of the
wall. (2) Reposition the maintenance building without the affordable housing. (3)
Remove the dirt mounds. (4) Lower pad heights. (5) Convert all two-story homes to
one story. He felt that these changes should be preferable to the City rather than being
put into a position to react to the S.A.V.E. litigation.
Jabe Kahnke, 4003 Palos Verdes Drive South, felt that the project was poorly planned
with respect to parking requirements. He asked why the Council was trying to satisfy
Ocean Trail's request and not trying to work with the residents near Ocean Trails. He
urged the Council to use their leverage to improve the residents' problems with this
project.
Mike Sribney, 32415 Nautilus Drive, agreed that the project was poorly planned and
was hoping for a tradeoff with Ocean Trails' requests to regain the ocean views of
nearby homeowners. He asked the Council to correct mistakes, specifically reducing all
homes to one story, while the Conditional Use Permit is open. He said there was an
opportunity for the City to deal with the issues and have the S.A.V.E. lawsuit put aside.
Joseph McLaren, 3923 Palos Verdes Drive South, spoke in favor of the affordable
housing units and urged the council to approve the request even if there are some
problems with heights.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, spoke about affordable units at Villa Capri, which
were converted from affordable housing status when they were sold. She felt that
affordable housing should stand not for 30 years as mentioned in the staff report but for
50 to 100 years.
Herbert Hyatt, 32424 Aqua Vista Drive, exhibited photographs and stated that he lived
directly across the street from the development. His concerns were vehicles,
construction equipment, storage vans in the proposed parking lot but now he felt the
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RECESS & RECONVENE:
At 10:22 P.M., Mayor Lyon declared a recess. The meeting reconvened at 10:32 P.M.
The following persons spoke in support of the staff recommendation:
Tracey LeRoy, 7936 East 3rd Street, Downey, CA 90241; John Monks, 32200 Schooner
Drive; Jesus Gutierrez, 1324 W. 35th St., San Pedro, CA 90731; Greg Clark, 1456
Silvius Drive, San Pedro, CA 90731; Jack Monks, 32200 Schooner Drive; Chris Haber,
8720 Bleriot Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90045; Mike Ahahee, 1917 Via Tampa, Lomita,
CA 90717; Lisa Dennen, 32200 Schooner Drive; Michael Kiss, 616 N. Paulina Ave.,
Redondo Beach, CA 90277; Aerial Cruce, 17 Swift Court Newport Beach, CA 92663;
Richard Cruce, 17 Swift Court Newport Beach, CA 92663; Kathy Snell, 8 Vanderlip
Drive; and, Christopher Smith, 1236 Via Landera, Palos Verdes Estates, CA 90274.
A summary of their comments is as follows: A request was not being made to lift the
moratorium but merely for the City to grant exceptions, 15 of which have been granted
since the moratorium was established. When some lots in Zone II were purchased,
buyers believed that information from Dr. Perry Ehlig and the panel of experts indicated
that this area was stable enough for lots to be developed if the individual lot had a
safety factor of 1.5; that Zone Two had not moved in 100,000 years; that it was not part
of any slide; and that its inclusion in the moratorium area was cautionary until additional
studies could be conducted. Vacant lot owners felt it was unfair that they had to pay
ACLAD fees, property taxes, mortgage payments, weed abatement costs for fire safety;
and, that they received no benefit from owning their property. Vacant lot owners also
felt that they had not contributed to the landslide but homeowners in Zone Two had
because of the septic tanks adding to the ground water and yet these same
homeowners were receiving free sewers and the right to enjoy their home and the
privately owned vacant lots which constituted parkland for the homeowners. It was
opined that the City was in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States
Constitution because the vacant lot owners had been denied use of their land. To mark
the distinction between Zones One and Two, it was noted that Zone Two is not raw land
but an already subdivided, existing neighborhood. The question which needs to be
answered by a respected geologist is whether individual lots with a safety factor of 1.5
can be developed without causing land movement on that lot or adjacent properties.
The Council called Keith Ehlert to the podium to inquire if he felt that development of
homes on lots with at least a 1.5 safety factor would cause movement to adjacent
properties.
Mr. Ehlert replied that he was not aware of any way that development would trigger
movement and that it might help.
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Resol. No. 2001 -08 - Appeal of Coastal Permit No. 94- Revision `A' and
Encroachment Permit No. 32 (Applicant: RPV Associates LLc, Tract No. 46628
(Oceanfront); Appellant: Rancho Palos Verdes City Council)
Director Rojas presented the staff report of February 6, 2001 and the recommendation
to adopt the proposed resolution denying the appeal and upholding the Planning
Commission's approval of Coastal Permit No. 94- Revision `A' and Encroachment Permit
No. 32.
Council discussion focused on the act that all streets within the development are public
and they discussed concerns regarding various conditions of the resolution; of
particular concern was the original intent to keep these streets public when the tract
was originally approved.
City Attorney Lynch stated that she would amend the resolution to address these
concerns.
Councilwoman Ferraro moved, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern McTaggart to ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 2001 -08, as amended, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES DENYING THE APPEAL AND
UPHOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF COASTAL PERMIT
NO. 94- REVISION `A' AND ENCROACHMENT PERMIT NO. 32.
The motion to approve the amended Resolution carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Byrd, Ferraro, Stern, and Mayor Lyon
NOES: McTaggart
Landslide Moratorium Exception Permit No. 36. (Landowner: Petak, 25 Sweetbay
Road).
Director Rojas presented the staff report of February 6, 2001 and the recommendation
to approve Landslide Moratorium Exception Permit No. 36, thereby allowing the
landowner to proceed with the appropriate applications to legalize the 441 square foot
garage conversion; construct a new 690 square foot three -car garage with a 319
square foot trellis attaching the garage and residence; and 213 cubic yards of grading
to accommodate the new garage and driveway, for property located at 25 Sweetbay
Road.
Council discussion centered on whether this after - the -fact garage conversion complied
with the code that fees would be double and that this approval allows the landowner
permission to submit an application but it does not grant approval.
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Councilmember McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro to adopt the
staff recommendation. Motion carried.
Additional Engineering Services for the Point Vicente Interpretative Center Soil
Remediation
Director Allison presented the staff report of February 6, 2001 and the recommendation
to (1) Authorize the expenditure of up to $29,350 for additional engineering services for
the soil investigation at the Point Vicente Interpretative Center.
Council discussed the possibility that with additional investigation to identify specific
locations of highest lead content might decrease clean up costs.
City Manager Evans said that staff met with representatives of the Army Corps of
Engineers; and there will be additional information by September.
Samuel Van Wagner, 2763 San Ramon Drive, said he was encouraged by the federal
government involvement.
Councilmember Ferraro moved, seconded by Mayor Lyon to (1) Authorize the
expenditure of up to $29,350for additional engineering services for the soil
investigation at the Point Vicente Interpretative Center. Motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT: Adjourned at 10:10 P.M. on the motion of Mayor Lyon to February
12, 2001, at 7:00 P.M. at Hesse Park for the first "Budget on the Road" meeting.
ATTEST:
CITY CLERK
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