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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 17, 2002
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Mayor McTaggart at Fred Hesse
Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, and was immediately recessed to a
closed session per the Brown Act Checklist. At 7:10 p.m., the meeting was reconvened.
Roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Clark, Ferraro, Gardiner, Stern, and Mayor McTaggart
ABSENT: None
Also present were City Manager Les Evans; Assistant City Manager Carolynn Petru;
City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement Joel
Rojas; Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Director of Finance Dennis McLean;
Deputy Planner Director Greg Pfost; Associate Planner Dave Blumenthal; City
Clerk/Administrative Services Director Jo Purcell; and Minutes Secretary Dianne
McGivern.
Councilman Clark led the Pledge of Allegiance.
RECYCLE DRAWING:
The winner for the recycle drawing was Carlos Faust on Tramonto Drive. Mayor
McTaggart congratulated Mr. Faust and encouraged all residents to participate in
recycling.
APPROVAL O F AGENDA
Mayor Pro Tern Stern moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro, to approve the
Agenda as submitted. Councilman Gardiner requested to move the cable TV item as
the first order of business after the Consent Calendar. Mayor Pro Tern Stern moved to
approve the motion as amended. Councilwoman Ferraro seconded the motion. Motion
carried.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
Motion to Waive Full Reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this meeting
with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all council members after
the reading of the title.
Minutes. (301)
Approved the August 6, 2002 minutes with minor corrections.
Resol. No. 2002 -80 - Register of Demands.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2002 -80, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Ferraro, Gardiner, Clark, Stern and Mayor McTaggart
NOES: None
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REGULAR BUSINESS
Support of Local Cable Usage. (605)
Assistant City Manager Carolynn Petru presented the staff report. She addressed the
issue originally put forth by Councilman Gardiner of whether there is a need in the
community for more local cable programming opportunities. She directed the Council to
reference the franchise renewal of the year 2000, noting the opportunities for local
programming contained therein. She outlined three basic areas: government access,
public access. Ms. Petru also mentioned Cox Channel 12 being a local commercial
channel wherein Cox retains jurisdiction over programming.
Ms. Petru put before the Council a decision to be made regarding the use of RPV's
rights under the franchise agreement. With regards to government access Channel 3,
she pointed out that the city has not been maximizing the amount of programming that
is available under the franchise agreement, primarily because of staffing issues and lack
of time. She suggested utilizing a single individual whose responsibilities would include
producing public service announcements, other 30- minute programs, and also the
"Spotlight on RPV" program. This person could be dedicated to developing the topics,
writing the scripts and working with Cox to get those produced.
Councilman Gardiner advised the Council of his placement of this item on the agenda.
He commented that an educational opportunity for RPV students is available. He
encouraged the Council to consider approving an additional channel hosting
government/educational programming. He thought an unpaid volunteer could be
recruited from the community to work with the high schools initially.
Kelly Johnson addressed the Council initially thanking Mayor McTaggart and Mayor Pro
Tern Stern for their support in the past. Mr. Johnson informed the Council of the
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partnership that existed between Peninsula High School, El Camino College, and Cox
Communications. He indicated that Councilman Gardiner and he have been discussing
this opportunity for several years. He mentioned the goal of seeking out partnerships
with entities such as U.C.L.A., or private businesses, indicating such associations with
community leaders would be of great benefit to the proposed programming.
Councilman Gardiner suggested establishing a subcommittee to research possibilities.
Councilman Clark supported the plan and suggested that Councilman Gardiner be the
subcommittee liaison.
Mayor McTaggart appointed Councilman Gardiner and himself to the subcommittee
established by the Council.
Councilman Gardiner offered to report back to the Council in the form of progress
reports, enabling the Council to make an educated decision at the appropriate time.
Mayor pro tem Stern suggested inviting Rolling Hills Estates to participate, but that RPV
has no obligation to acquire their consent. The Council chose not to include other cities.
Larry Shaw, Director of Operations, Cox Communications, provided background
regarding the KCOX 12 local channel. He represented that currently they are hiring a
producer to replace Liz Brown. He stated that 10 to 15 interns from the high school are
involved in the production classes at Cox Communications. The students will learn
everything from production to editing. Mr. Shaw indicated that all of the schools have
been wired with cable for four years. Fiber optics will allow the students to produce
shows either live, taped or satellite.
Mayor McTaggart inquired into the current wiring within the schools.
Mr. Shaw stated that cable interconnects the live feed. There exist modems for high-
speed data transmission. Cable converter boxes allow viewing from classroom to
classroom. Cameras are also available.
Joseph Clifford, 30907 Rue de la Pierre, Rancho Palos Verdes, urged the Council to
encourage Cox to support Netscape, indicating that in the past Cox had been a
supporter. He pointed out that there also has been a $5 increase in fees imposed by
Cox.
Mayor McTaggart expressed support in the review of the franchise agreement.
He suggested obtaining feedback from the public in the form of comments or
suggestions to educate the Council.
Councilwoman Ferraro observed that there was unanimous consensus on Councilman
Gardiner's proposal.
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Councilman Gardiner, a member of the Council sub - committee liaison, stated that he
would direct the formulation of a basic plan and present it to the Council.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Use of Federal and State Funding for Supplemental Police Services —CORE
Police Team. (601 x 1206)
Assistant City Manager Carolynn Petru stated that conducting this public hearing fulfills
the requirement for such a meeting, under obligation from the U.S. Department of
Justice and the State of California, for receipt of funds to be used for supplemental
police services in RPV, specifically, the CORE Police Team. Ms. Petru outlined the
wide variety of services that are provided by the CORE Team, which consists of three
Los Angeles County Sheriff Deputies. She indicated that the State of California provides
approximate $100,000 per year while the Federal government provides a grant for
$15,581.
Mayor pro tem Stern expressed concern over the diminishing allowance provided to
RPV, indicating that in the late 90's $25,000 was provided where now it's only $15,500.
Mayor pro tern Stem moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro, for approval of the
staff recommendation to approve the continued use of LLEBG (Local Law Enforcement
Block Grant) and COPS (Citizen Option for Police Services) funds to pay for the CORE
Police Team to perform enforcement and crime prevention duties at the schools and
commercial areas in the Region and in the parks and open space areas adjacent to and
south of Crest Road. There was no objection.
Mayor McTaggart closed the public hearing.
REGULAR BUSINESS
Update on Construction of Palos Verdes Drive South. (1204)
Director of Public Works Dean Allison introduced a presentation provided by the
developer of Ocean Trails containing some details regarding the landslide repair and
the construction of PV Drive South.
Mr. Allison stated that the total cost for PV Drive South is about $3 million. The
developer is paying for the entire cost of construction. He indicated that the City of
Rancho Palos Verdes would be responsible for inspection services, which is currently a
full -time position. He listed as a benefit of the project a much smoother and straighter
roadway and pointed out that the intersection of PV Drive South and PV Drive East is
being completely reconstructed. He recited the other benefits: off -site bike trails, off -
road bike trails, landscape maintenance, a scenic turnout and rest stops for bicyclists.
Mr. Allison provided the status of the roadway project as being under construction,
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however the work now was limited to just utilities work at the intersection of PV Drive
East and PV Drive South. He stated that the real construction of the roadway will not
begin until October and that the projection completion time will be one year, June of
2003. He further stated that there would be a terrific impact on traffic; however, the
intersection of PV Drive East and PV Drive South will never be closed. He explained
the establishment of a hotline number that residents can call to get a weekly update
about what's going to be happening that week. Another option is to visit the website
where that information will be available
Terry Plowden, Senior Vice President, Douglas Wilson Companies, disclosed that his
firm has been retained by PVH Property Corp. to oversee development and day -to -day
operations at Ocean Trails. He reported that the grading portion in the landslide area is
75 percent complete. He stated that starting next month they would commence filling
the final slot of the landslide repair excavation with completion some time in December
2002. He reported that restoration of the Ocean Trails golf course, the bluff top activity
corridor area and the opening of the 18 -hole course are projected to be completed in
June 2003.
Mayor McTaggart asked for someone to point out the location of the landslide.
Mr. Plowden indicated that it is the area directly below Ocean Trails Park.
Doug Canzou, Douglas Wilson Companies, expressed enthusiasm with beautifying "that
stretch of real estate," and that it would improve traffic flow, enhance pedestrian
bikeways, public amenities, et cetera. Mr. Canzou introduced Jeff Propensky, who
outlined the extent of the improvements. Mr. Propensky stressed the importance of
keeping traffic in order.
Councilman Clark asked what the delays will be when construction is under way.
Mr. Propensky indicated the goal of limiting delays to 2 or 3 minutes.
Councilman Clark suggested putting signs up at the entry point of construction that
reflect what the delay time is at certain points during the day. His thought was that
people could then decide whether they will take an alternate route or continue on
through.
Mr. Propensky stated that the contractors hired a traffic engineer who would be
developing a traffic control plan that will correspond to the construction to keep traffic
back -up at a minimum. He also discussed the traffic hotline number, 310 - 303 -3209, will
be available through Ocean Trails.
Director of Public Works Dean Allison indicated the hotline numbers will be posted on
the website as well.
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At 8:18 p.m., Mayor McTaggart declared a recess. The meeting was reconvened at
8:31 p.m.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Tina Bothamley, 30714 Via La Cresta, read a short letter regarding the Palos Verdes
Landfill. The letter stated that the PV Landfill received toxic substances for burial. It
stated that the Sanitation District encouraged her to limit her time at the stables and to
discourage her children from playing, in the dirt. At the time, 1992, she owned a horse
named Sylvester since then, Sylvester has died. She encouraged the Council to
address this with Rolling Hills Estates if they had opportunity to.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, read a letter from Doug Cowan, regarding Ocean
Trails. The letter informed residents of the upcoming meeting on September 18 and
served as an invitation to the informational meeting. Ms. Larue pointed out that her
tenant would like to know if a cap has been put on the Ocean Trails golf course as was
promised. She invited the Council to come to her house to observe the land movement.
Ms. Larue reminded all that her son discovered the Abalone Cove landslide when he
was a senior in geology at U.S.C.
Crestridge Properties. (701)
Deputy Planning Director Greg Pfost addressed the Council with a report on affordable
housing and vacant properties. Mr. Pfost referenced a meeting in May 2002 when
Council enlisted staff to prepare a matrix addressing various issues and alternatives in
regards to affordable housing and available property to accommodate same. He
directed the Council to a white notebook containing a proposal from Standard Pacific.
He indicated that the affordable housing obligations are complex; that he would not be
addressing them in this meeting. He then informed the Council that the PV Art Center
withdrew its offer for the property.
He stated that the Exceptional Children's Network was interested in the property to
develop an educational facility for gifted and talented children. He indicated there has
been no correspondence since May from this group.
Mr. Pfost presented the proposal from Standard Pacific, which included the
development of a 111 unit condominium project for seniors. They also propose to
include a separate lot to build a senior center and also a public park and trails more
focused on the RDA Site. He pointed out that Standard Pacific, in their proposal,
included a general plan amendment and zone change, or zone text amendment,
depending on Council's direction.
Mayor McTaggart inquired as to how much low and moderate income housing could be
used on a senior project.
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Mr. Pfost answered 18 percent of Redevelopment Agency funds can be used towards
the senior project. All of the money in the In -lieu Housing Fund can be used.
Mayor pro tem Stern offered the figure of $1.3 million, indicating that 18 percent would
not be sufficient.
Mr. Pfost pointed out that according to the Development Code, Standard Pacific must
provide at least 6 very low affordable housing units or 12 low- income units at their cost.
He next addressed the Peninsula Seniors. He indicated that they prefer the Standard
Pacific proposal because it provided a site for their use, a structure of 10 to 11,000
square feet. They have indicated that if the Standard Pacific proposal was denied that
they still have an interest in the RDA parcel to build a senior center on that property.
Mayor pro tem Stern inquired as to how the Peninsula Seniors proposed to fund a
building. Mr. Pfost stated that they had not provided such information.
Mr. Pfost next discussed the Affirmed Housing Group as an organization the City invited
to address building an affordable housing apartment on the RDA site. The proposed
building would include 5 to 10 units. They said they are in the business of doing things
like that.
Mr. Pfost talked about the Corporation for Better Housing, a proposal that the City
entered into a negotiating agreement with the developer. They are still unsure whether
they prefer apartments or condominiums.
Councilman Clark confirmed that the City Council let the exclusive negotiating
agreement lapse intentionally. Mr. Pfost agreed.
City Attorney Lynch pointed out that the original exclusive negotiating agreement
expired. She stated that the Council entered into a second exclusive negotiating
agreement, which also expired.
The next item Mr. Pfost addressed was the City View Park. This park could be
developed for less than $100,000 and was located on the RDA site.
Mr. Pfost submitted that the final alternative is to do nothing; that this would be to hold
the property in its present form and leave the decision for its best use at another time.
Councilman Gardiner asked how many of the proposals are still valid. Mr. Pfost
answered that Standard Pacific, the do- nothing proposal and the Peninsula Seniors are
the only viable options at present.
Councilman Gardiner inquired into the consequences of not going forward on any
proposal. City Attorney Lynch indicated that a decision is not necessary until 2005.
Mayor pro tem Stern indicated that another five -year extension could be obtained under
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the present laws.
Councilman Clark pointed out that the question to be answered is whether or not the
Standard Pacific proposal merits further consideration. He disclosed that he met with
Mr.. Steve Kaplan, Standard Pacific's attorney, and with their architect to review the
proposal.
Councilman Gardiner stated that he attended a briefing at City Hall with the same two
people plus one more whose name he could not recall.
Mayor McTaggart disclosed that he met with Steve Kaplan and two other gentlemen as
well. He stated that the City policy was in conformance because four Council members
disclosed their meetings with the developer.
Councilman Gardiner inquired into the availability of a matrix.
City Manager Evans referenced several lying around.
Mayor McTaggart referenced a problem in that the legislature does not want to provide
low and moderate income housing as much as it does senior housing. He discussed
the notation in the staff report that almost 19 percent of the current population in RPV is
65 or older. Furthermore, that within ten years it will be closer to 30 percent.
Mayor McTaggart invited Standard Pacific to give their proposal.
Steve Kaplan, 1983 West 190th Street, Suite 200, Torrance, Attorney at Law for
Standard Pacific, addressed the Council. He indicated that they were looking for
approval to begin the long process of entitlement, which could take potentially up to a
year. He outlined briefly the different components of the proposed project. Included is a
publicly accessible park along Crenshaw Boulevard wrapping around Crestridge. Also
a condominium project that will have many services normally found within senior
condominiums as well as a senior's center.
Councilman Clark asked for the relative size of the public park area. Mr. Kaplan
responded approximately two acres in size.
Dan Withee, resident of Rancho Palos Verdes, business address of 1983 West 190th
Street, Torrance, Architect, stated that he has lived in RPV for the last 40 years and has
been an architect for 25 years. Mr. Withee described the proposed project. He
indicated that in the corner, there would be an approximately two -acre park, a public
access passive park, privately owned and maintained by the Crestridge Homeowners
Association.
Mayor pro tem Stern asked for the distance from Crenshaw to the first structure on the
east side.
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Mr. Withee responded that it is around 100 feet. He continued to describe the 111 units
of combined town homes and condominiums, ranging in size from 100 to 500 square
feet. He indicated that one set has town homes with basement garages. He further
added that there would be a central community recreational space with a full -time
concierge and highly expanded menu of services, including transportation, laundry,
housekeeping and meals.
Councilman Gardiner asked for clarification of "meals."
Mr. Withee described a method of ordering food and having it brought in from different
restaurants. He explained that there will not be a kitchen per se, although there will be
a dining area.
Councilman Clark inquired regarding the community pool as part of the proposed
recreational center. Mr. Withee indicated that there is a pool.
Mayor pro tem Stern asked about grading and whether there was a soils report. Mr.
Withee deferred that question to Mr. Boeker.
Mr. Withee continued to describe the peninsula senior site. It is his opinion that a 10 to
12,000 square foot senior center would be appropriate.
Alan Boeker, Standard Pacific, 1983 West 190th Street, Torrance, commented on the
underground material, stating that it is a combination of sand stone and diatomaceous
deposits. Mr. Boeker expressed pleasure that the Council had approved the Belmont
project and suggested that the residents of the proposed senior housing would benefit
from programs such as meal services, transportation and housekeeping.
Mayor McTaggart addressed the issue of noise while construction was being performed.
Mr. Boeker described a temporary wall that would keep out the majority of the noise, as
has been his experience.
Bill Baumann, 17 Cottonwood Circle, Rancho Palos Verdes, President of Peninsula
Seniors, began by recognizing as a group the numerous seniors present. He pointed
out that Peninsula Seniors have had meetings with Standard Pacific. As a result, they
have expressed enthusiasm towards the Standard Pacific project.
Gene Hollander, 27100 Sunnyridge Road, Rancho Palos Verdes, Vice President of
Peninsula Seniors Facilities Committee. Mr. Hollander expressed support for Standard
Pacific. He outlined the qualifications of Larry Wolff as the architect on the project.
Mayor pro tem Stern asked about the projected costs of building a senior's center.
Mr. Hollander opined that the site would cost approximately $1 million. The construction
of the facility itself will be approximately $2.5 million. He stated that there is a grant
available of $75,000, which must be spent by July 2003. There is available a capital
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reserve fund which has been contributed to for the past five years. It was Mr.
Hollander's belief that the concept design, location and site will enable the Peninsula
Seniors to raise the remainder of the required funds.
Larry Wolff, WLC Architects, Cucamonga, California, suggested that after being
involved for several years, it is his opinion that a facility of approximately 10 to 12,000
square feet would be necessary. He estimated that 36 to 45 parking spaces with some
shared use of the adjacent development parking would be sufficient.
Mayor McTaggart asked of Mr. Wolff whether the $2.5 million would be sufficient to
complete the project
Mr. Wolff responded that by the time the facility gets built, construction costs would be
around $200 per square foot, resulting in a construction bill of about $2.4, $2.5 million.
Councilwoman Ferraro inquired into whether Mr. Wolff designed the senior center at Pat
Nixon Park. Mr. Wolff indicated affirmatively.
Libby Aubrey, 29433 Indian Valley Road, Rancho Palos Verdes, expressed a sentiment
of hope that there will be a senior center available when she reaches the age of
participation. She complimented the project as presented by Standard Pacific, but
questioned the adequacy of project. She provided a drawing that reflected an Olympic
size pool, a health dome, within which there will be offered yoga and pilates exercise
classes. Her design reflects 48 units with a larger park area in front that is open and
spacious. Ms. Aubrey's drawing showed six low- income housing buildings.
Mayor McTaggart inquired of Ms. Aubrey whether she intended to submit her ideas as
an alternative proposal to the Standard Pacific Project.
Ms. Aubrey indicated in the affirmative.
Mayor McTaggart advised Ms. Aubrey to contact the City staff.
Ms. Aubrey continued and asked whether there was some interest in her pursuing the
matter, possibly in collaboration with Standard Pacific.
Mayor McTaggart again advised Ms. Aubrey to pursue the proper channels before
making a presentation.
Barbara Arbuthnot, 28856 Crestridge Road, Rancho Palos Verdes, reminded the
Council of the previous attempts to develop a project like this. She stated that there
was a great amount of concern on the part of the residents; however, with the current
project, the residents are more receptive. She referred to an article written by Josh
Cohen concerning the Standard Pacific project in the PV News. She stated that the
plan was outlined in such a way that residents were able to evaluate the plan and
respond to it. Ms. Arbuthnot explained that the present plan is sufficient for a variety of
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reasons. First, it looked good and may work as it addresses. many of the problems
existing in the previous project such as ingress and egress, the park land is located on
the corner opposite Ridgecrest with walkways, affordable housing dispersed throughout
the project, and a senior's center RPV can be proud of.
Ray Mathys, 5738 Whitecliff Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, commented that after 35
years of reviewing undesirable plans, he congratulated Belmont and the Alzheimer's
projects. He indicated that the current plan's provision is adequate. Mr. Mathys stated
that seniors are to pay all operating and maintenance costs, but not construction costs.
He proposed that all three cities contribute to the cost of building the center so as to
avoid embarrassment. He complimented the provision for trails, however warning that
predators may be a danger to the elderly and children. He encouraged careful
consideration of this point.
Luella Wike, 29172 Oceanridge Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, began by pointing out that
her residence would overlook the proposed properties. She encouraged the do- nothing
alternative. She suggested waiting and observing the impact the Belmont Village
Retirement Project when built to evaluate the impact on nearby residents. Her concerns
included view impact, traffic and safety. She referenced a zone change and low cost
housing. Ms. Wike's ultimate suggestion was to let the money revert back to the county
or obtain the RHNA credit to transfer certain units within the 10 -mile radius.
Linda Puentes, 5575 Mistridge Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that her opinion
mirrors that of Luella Wike.
Jack Downhill, 20 Vanderlip Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, disclosed that he is the
licensed real estate broker who represented the interests of the Montessori school that
made an offer to purchase the subject property. Mr. Downhill outlined that that project
lacked much - needed amenities but provided some elements of a park, possibly.
However, he felt it did fit within the zoning requirements as institutional and would be an
attractive one -story building with quality alternatives for those with special needs.
Perry Cockreham, 5201 Middlecrest Road, complimented the project proposed by
Standard Pacific. He stated that he had concerns about parking and pointed out that
there seemed to be only 25 visitor spaces. He expressed apprehension regarding
seniors and visitors parking across the street as a result of no parking spaces within the
property. Mr. Cockreham agreed with Mr. Ray Mathys regarding the safety of the
seniors if the trails and grounds have public access. He indicated a desire to keep the
grounds as natural as possible. He also encouraged enlisting entities such as the Boy
Scouts of America to become involved, thus allowing for their personal growth and
goals while providing for the needs of the seniors and their center.
Claudia Smith, 3 Via la Cima, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of Libby Aubrey's
proposal. She encouraged the Council to consider it.
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RECESS AND RECONVENE
At 10:32 p.m. Mayor McTaggart called a recess. The meeting resumed at 10:41 p.m.
Crestridge Properties. (701)
Steve Kaplan, 1983 West 190th Street, Suite 200, Torrance, indicated that other
speakers had already covered the input that he would offer. He expressed hope that
the Council would approve moving forward on the project.
Councilman Clark expressed support for the project, noting that still some research and
further development was necessary to address the various concerns that were
previously addressed by other speakers.
Mayor pro tem Stern indicated that the project is off to a very good start. He expressed
concern over the density the project could bring. He indicated that he lacked
appreciation for exactly what it would look like, but cautioned that the final project
should blend well with its surroundings.
Mayor pro tem Stern stated that its institutional zoning should be addressed and that
perhaps staff can educate Standard Pacific as to what amenities could be added to
attain that status.
Councilwoman Ferraro expressed the same concerns as did Mayor pro tem Stern. She
added that she would like to see a luxury -type facility that would include a dining room,
pool, library, a theater and a game room.
Councilman Gardiner suggested narrowing the list of options to be able to take a clear
look at the needs and whether provision has been made. He expressed support for the
Standard Pacific proposal in the context of moving an acceptable proposal forward to
the next steps. He further stated that this proposal was not selected; it was merely
encouraged to move forward to the next steps. He complimented the Standard Pacific
plan and encouraged future work on perfecting its contents.
Mayor McTaggart echoed the concerns that have been expressed. He added that the
appearance of the building(s) is important. He advised against appearing too
monolithic. He expressed disdain over the lack of a proper kitchen. He was also
apprehensive about rezoning the small amount of institutional property left in RPV.
Mayor McTaggart expressed caution as to the future funding of condominiums, stating
that he does not want the City to be involved with having to have a housing authority
cover that aspect. Despite cautionary measures, Mayor McTaggart supported
investigation by Standard Pacific in furtherance of the project.
City Attorney Lynch indicated that even with the addition of amenities, a zone change
would still be likely. She followed up on Mayor McTaggart's comment regarding upkeep.
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She suggested a maintenance employee type of organization to implement not only the
affordable aspects, but also on the amenities. She agreed that placing it all on the
homeowner's association is not prudent, as they will not be equipped to handle the
responsibility.
Mayor pro tern Stern offered that he is in agreement with Mayor McTaggart regarding
the affordable housing element. He indicated that the Council is eager to complete that
obligation ensuring the quality of the project
Councilman Clark moved to request the applicant submit a specific development plan
within a reasonable time period, resulting in a presentation before the Council in a
similar period of time. Mayor McTaggart seconded the motion, taking note that it does
not preclude Libby Aubrey from making her presentation.
The motion carried unanimously.
Traffic Calming on Via Rivera. (1502)
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to waive the staff report.
Motion carried.
Senior Public Works Engineer Nicole Jules, presented alternative options for controlling
traffic on Via Rivera. The first discussed was edge line striping, which is 4 -inch white
stripe approximately 8 feet from the face of the curb. This alternative being the most
economic, costing approximately $1,000 to construct.
Ms. Jules next discussed speed humps. She advised that the engineers are proposing
5 speed humps from Hawthorne to Rue de la Pierre. The estimated cost is $40,000. In
addition to the humps, a high visibility sign would be installed at each hump in both
directions and also at the pit on Via Rivera. Alternative three, as presented by Ms.
Jules, was to install six chokers, including a median in the entrance to the tract. The
chokers are designed as raised curbs, about a 6 -inch curb median with striping along
the sides. Ms. Jules represented as the final alternative chicanes, the definition being a
6 -inch curb extension. They can be landscaped. She indicated that having one chicane
would not serve the purpose, but, rather, they need to be installed as a series to help
reduce traffic
Councilman Gardiner suggested using neighborhood welcome signs, which would
include speed- reducing phrases. He also offered that a "Residents only" sign is
effective in certain neighborhoods.
Mayor pro tem Stern stated that the reason for its effectiveness is because people have
an alternative route.
Mayor McTaggart stated that there is another route, but it is not as direct.
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Councilwoman Ferraro offered that drivers would not be dissuaded from using Via
Rivera.
Councilman Clark stated that people often speed through that area because they come
through from Briarhurst at higher speeds and then continue their speed down Via
Rivera. He indicated it was his wish that people would pay attention to street signs. He
commented that the only thing they pay attention to is a ticket.
Steve Martin, Battalion Chief, Fire Department, reported that speed humps delay their
response to an emergency up to a minute and a half. Also Chief Martin also pointed
out that speed humps exacerbate existing conditions and cause new injuries to people
in transport. Finally, he reported that the fire department has to replace major sets of
springs in the fire apparatus because of the jolt of the speed bumps.
Mayor pro tern Stern inquired of Chief Martin whether the fire department has any
reaction to the aforementioned traffic remedies. The Chief responded negatively.
Jim Sweeney, 30903 Via Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that he has been
working on this project for the past five years. He shared that shortly after they were
there, a vehicle hit their daughter. Fortunately, she was not injured. Mr. Sweeney
indicated that on December 6th, he sent a letter to Dean Allison reporting that the
neighbors had been complaining about the excessive speed and they will not allow their
children to play out in front of their homes even when they are being watched. Mr.
Sweeney stated that when cars are parked along the side of the street, it is difficult for
drivers coming down Via Rivera to see residents backing their cars out of their
driveways. He referenced Mr. Ghadani, who lives nearby, has had his vehicle damaged
twice and has observed five accidents in front of his residence. Mr. Sweeney said that it
got worse when school resumed after summer break.
Eva Kolosvary - Stupler, 30211 Via Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that she has
lived there for 30 years. She offered a list of nine people who have died, including her
late husband, within the last ten years. She commented that at least all of those people
have needed emergency vehicle services to come to their respective houses. Ms.
Kolosvary- Stupler also expressed concern over the children and their safety.
Joseph Clifford, 30907 Rue de la Pierre, Rancho Palos Verdes, confirmed that speed
bumps are effective as he did his own test on Basswood with his own bicycle. He
expressed support for the installation of speed humps.
Beverly Dunn, 30417 Via Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, objected to the speed bumps.
She stated that Via Rivera serves as a main artery for those who live on that and the
adjacent street. She indicated there is no other convenient ingress and egress. Ms.
Dunn made the observation that with the neighbors posting signs that children are
present that traffic has been reduced considerably. She urged the Council to consider
an alternative to speed bumps.
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Ann Shaw, 30036 Via Borica, Rancho Palos Verdes, informed the council that she has
lived on her street for 36 years and utilizes Via Rivera as the only access out to
Hawthorne Boulevard. Ms. Shaw spoke against the employment of speed humps. She
commented that the traffic on Via Rivera is quite typical. She collected and submitted to
the Council signatures of some 225 people on a petition against speed humps.
Mary Lou Sweeney, Rancho Palos Verdes, supported the installation of speed humps
through a letter, as she could not be present for the meeting. She invited the first speed
hump to be installed in front of her home.
Robert R. Harms, 30235 Via Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated he has lived there
since 1968. He spoke against installing speed humps. He stated that accommodating
40 residents while affecting hundreds of other residents was not right. He suggested
doing a study on what the wishes of the total community are rather than just limiting it to
40. He encouraged the use of police surveillance.
Richard Kodani, 30949 Via Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that he has lived there
for about 27 years and has been retired for the last six. He commented that he takes a
walk every morning, between 6:30 and 7:30. He said that the speeding has increased
as a result of cellular phones as people are more distracted. He expressed the
sentiment that people don't want to be inconvenienced by installing speed bumps, yet
they are the very ones who are doing the speeding and endangering people. He
expressed concern over the many new families in the neighborhood that have children.
He spoke against the alternatives, indicating that the upkeep and maintenance of the
landscaping will be very expensive. Finally, Mr. Kodani added that he has witnessed
five accidents near his house.
Andrew Cohen, 30224 Via Rivera, Rancho Palos Verdes, addressed the concern that
the children, while young now, will be driving soon creating even more traffic. He
expressed support for speed humps as safety is of primary concern. He suggested
policing and ticketing as an alternative as it is effective in PV Estates
Barry Hildebrand, Rancho Palos Verdes, introduced himself as a member of the Traffic
Committee. He stated that by placing speed humps on Basswood, they were able to
reduce speed by 6 to 7 miles per hour. He indicated that using the aforementioned
alternatives as obstructive and dangerous, not to mention the fact that they take away
many parking spaces. Mr. Hildebrand related an incident involving a ride in an
ambulance. He described riding over speed bumps but knew that he was getting to the
hospital quickly. He indicated the notion of slowing emergency vehicles down is
absolutely ridiculous.
Bill Schurmer, Rancho Palos Verdes, member of the Traffic Committee, described
himself not as an advocate of speed bumps, but as one of safety. He confirmed that
speed bumps are the best alternative to keeping people safe.
Councilman Clark recited a practice utilized in Europe wherein cameras were installed
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to monitor traffic. He indicated it was very effective in keeping speeding at a minimum,
as people who were speeding would receive automated tickets.
Councilman Gardiner was supportive of exploring the possible use of cameras stating
that he had lived in Europe where these kinds of cameras were used to effectively stop
speeding. He also emphasized that the choice to be made was the best way to slow or
stop speeding, not whether or not one liked speed humps.
Councilman Clark moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner that staff proceed to
explore the use of a camera system in terms of its viability and possible legal
complications, practicability and cost of using cameras. The motion carried 4 — 1 with
Councilwoman Ferraro dissenting.
Landslide Moratorium Exception Permit: 4 Thyme Place. (1801)
Associate Planner Dave Blumenthal presented the staff report for the Landslide
Moratorium Exception Permit at 4 Thyme Place.
Miles Pritzkat, architect for the project, gave a presentation of the project and answered
Council's questions.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, spoke to the issuance of this permit.
Council discussion indicated a consensus that the proposed addition was too large and
inappropriate for a location in the landslide moratorium area.
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Mayor pro tern Stern, to deny the application
without prejudice.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Ferraro, Gardiner, Stern, and Mayor McTaggart
NOES: None
Staff was directed to prepare a revised ordinance that reasserts the 1993 limitation of
600 square feet additions as the maximum allowed in the Landslide Moratorium area.
Resol. No. 2002 -81- Adoption of Revised Local CEQA Guidelines. (1203)
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro, to waive the
presentation of the staff report.
Councilwoman Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to approve staff
recommendation to adopt Resolution No. 2002 -81. The motion carried on the following
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roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, Ferraro, Stern and Mayor McTaggart
NOES: None
Ordinance No. 381 — Adoption of State Uniform Codes. (1203 x 201)
ORDINANCE NO. 381, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS
VERDES ADOPTING BY REFERENCE PART 2 OF TITLE 24 OF THE
CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS, COMPRISING THE 2001
CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE; PART 3 OF TITLE 24 OF THE CALIFORNIA
CODE OF REGULATIONS, COMPRISING THE 2001 CALIFORNIA
ELECTRICAL CODE; PART 4 OF TITLE 24 OF THE CALIFORNIA CODE OF
REGULATIONS, COMPRISING THE 2001 CALIFORNIA MECHANICAL CODE;
PART 5 OF TITLE 24 OF THE CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS,
COMPRISING THE 2001 CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE; TITLE 32, FIRE
CODE, OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY CODE; THE 1997 EDITION OF THE
UNIFORM HOUSING CODE; THE 1997 EDITION OF THE UNIFORM
ADMINISTRATIVE CODE; AND THE 1997 EDITION OF THE UNIFORM CODE
FOR THE ABATEMENT OF DANGEROUS BUILDINGS; MAKING
AMENDMENTS TO SAID CODES; AND AMENDING THE RANCHO PALOS
VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE was introduced on motion of Mayor pro tem Stern,
seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro and carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Ferraro, Gardiner, Stern, and Mayor McTaggart
NOES: None
Request to Oppose Legislation Concerning Pre- Emption of Local Authority and
Property Rights. (306)
City Manager Evans gave a brief staff report on this proposed legislation which would
prohibit a City or County from reducing, requiring or permitting the reduction of
residential density on any parcel below the density that was used to determine
compliance with the housing element of its general plan, unless the City or County
makes written findings supported by substantial.
Councilman Clark moved, seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro, to authorize the Mayor
to send a letter on the behalf of the City Council opposing this legislation. The motion
carried.
Term Limits Ballot Initiative Message for Website. (501)
City Manager Evans presented a brief staff report recommending that the Council
approve a message describing the Council's request for citizen input regarding a
possible ballot initiative establishing Term Limits for posting on the City website.
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After discussion of amendments to the proposed language, Councilman Clark moved,
seconded by Councilwoman Ferraro, to approve a message for posting on the website
describing the Council's request for citizen input regarding a possible ballot initiative
establishing Term Limits. Motion carried.
CITY ATTORNEY CLOSED SESSION REPORT:
City Attorney Lynch advised that no action had been taken in closed session.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 12:50.
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