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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 18, 2003
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mayor Stern at Fred Hesse Community Park,
29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, Rancho Palos Verdes.
Roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart, Ferraro, and Mayor Stern
ABSENT: None
Also present were City Manager Les Evans; Assistant City Manager Carolynn Petru;
City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement Joel
Rojas; Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Director of Finance Dennis McLean;
Senior Planner Kit Fox; Senior Planner Ara Mihranian; City Clerk/Administrative
Services Director Jo Purcell; and, Minutes Secretary Debra Presutti.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro proudly introduced the Cub Scouts of Pack 435, Cody
Bergstrom, Christopher Sorenson, Matt Montaldo, Tom Cochran, Drew Knolls, Nicholas
Carlson, Jim Matsumoto, and Charlie Wood, who led the Pledge of Allegiance followed
by the singing of America the Beautiful.
MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Stern reminded everyone that applications were being accepted for various City
commissions and committees, including the Planning Commission, the Traffic
Committee, the Finance Advisory Committee, and the Equestrian Committee. He noted
this is an opportunity for residents to work for their community and fellow residents. He
advised anyone interested in serving to fill out an application on line at the Palos
Verdes.com website by clicking first the City Council option, next choosing the City
Clerk from the title bar located at the top of the page, and then selecting the Rancho
Palos Verdes Recruitment for Advisory Boards option on the left side of the page; or by
phoning the City Clerk's office at (310) 544 -5208.
RECYCLE DRAWING:
Joseph A. Morgan was selected as the recycler of the month. Mayor Stern thanked him
for recycling and encouraged everyone to participate in the City's recycling program.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Mayor Stern requested that Item No. 10, the Ganado Trail matter, be removed from the
Agenda, stating that since no staff report was included as part of the Agenda packet it
would be best to postpone discussion of the matter.
Councilman McTaggart stated he placed the matter on the Agenda to air the matter
publicly and to furnish the residents who live adjacent to the trail an opportunity to
provide their input since many of them learned only recently of the possibility of the
trail's closure.
Mayor Stern responded that without the benefit of a staff report outlining the details of
the matter, Council's ability to make meaningful decisions would be severely limited,
adding that it was extremely important to address an issue with knowledge of all the
pertinent facts rather than hearing public comment with no proper understanding of
those facts and circumstances.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro queried why a report was not provided.
City Manager Evans responded the matter was added after the Agenda had already
been published.
Councilman Clark commented that he understood Councilman McTaggart's reason for
bringing the matter forward but concurred with Mayor Stern that, without a common
foundation of information, it would not serve the Council or the community well to
discuss the item at this time.
Mayor Stern pointed out that one of the problems with proceeding is a discrepancy
concerning what is being referred to as the Ganado Trail. He mentioned his
understanding that most people are speaking about a trail that begins at the rear of a lot
where a building permit for a home has been issued. He added that a meaningful
discussion, which accurately assesses the situation, could not be had without a quality
report allowing the public to provide input based on the realities of the situation.
Councilman McTaggart stated that as one of the signers of the acquisition of that
property it was his hope that the City would be concerned with its preservation, adding
that a message should be sent to the Usage Committee informing them that trails are
very important to the people of RPV and any proposed elimination of them should be
done in an adequately noticed open public process.
Councilman Gardiner agreed that a hearing of the matter should be postponed; adding
that a draft staff report should be made available to members of the public wishing to
comment and those comments should be appended to the report received by Council
when the matter is subsequently addressed as an agenda item.
Councilman Clark suggested that each member of the Council who will ultimately deal
with this issue make a visit to the site to familiarize themselves with the character and
physical dimensions of the location so they can better understand and appreciate the
comments of the neighbors and property owners.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro commented that the petition containing 104 signatures should
also be included in that report.
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Mayor Stern entertained public comment on the matter but requested it be limited to
whether the matter should be agendized for the future or heard at this meeting.
Ralph Ortolano, Jr., Rancho Palos Verdes, requested that Council hear the matter now
since many people in attendance came specifically to address this issue. He stated
that certain easements were accepted at the October 7, 2003 City Council meeting
which, once recorded, will bind Council in ways they might not be if the matter is aired
forthwith.
Barbara Dye, Rancho Palos Verdes, agreed that a good report needs to be presented
before the issue can be fully addressed. She invited anyone interested to walk the site
with her and offered to discuss some of the thought processes that went into the
Steering Committee's proposal of another trail to substitute for the one that will be
blocked.
Nick Trutanich, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke on behalf of the residents of the last 12
houses on Coolheights Drive and strongly recommended that the Ganado Trail remain
open.
Richard Stark, Rancho Palos Verdes, Community Representative on the Forrestal
Steering Committee, agreed that without a staff report the matter could not be
meaningfully discussed.
Ralph Ortolano, Sr.,, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced his strong support for trails and the
preservation of open space.
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes, suggested Council solve this particular problem by
treating it the same as Rockinghorse Road and Sunnyside Ridge Road and leaving all
available unbuildable land designated on the map as trail area open until everything can
be properly addressed. She noted that the Conceptual Trails Plan was designed to
make staff aware of the trail situation and strongly urged Council to hear the matter
now, saying a procedure is in place that has not worked correctly in this case and
Council should take the opportunity to make the necessary corrections to assure that it
will work in the future.
Councilman Gardiner stated that he visited the site but in a different context and that,
without diagrams or anything else to help him assess the situation, he is very
uncomfortable moving forward. He suggested stopping the clock on any irreversible
action and continuing the matter to allow Council the benefit of reviewing relevant
information, making appropriate site visits, and hearing input from the various parties
involved.
City Attorney Lynch informed Council that subsequent to their last meeting the City had
recorded the easements that were accepted on the trails and issued grading and
building permits to Mr. Nassiri. She indicated the problems regarding legal descriptions
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pointed out by Mr. Ortolano's engineers have been corrected and revised documents
have been transmitted; therefore, the ten -day period for the parties to review those
documents has already begun and Mr. Nassiri is free to begin construction.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro questioned whether a trail easement had been vacated so these
permits could be issued.
City Attorney Lynch replied that no trail easement has been terminated, closed, or
extinguished but as part of the adjustments to Mr. Ortolano, Jr's. property the rerouting
of an easement was necessary. She further clarified that there was never a trail
easement on the Nassiri property.
Barbara Sattler, Rancho Palos Verdes, as a member of the Forrestal Steering
Committee, said she is not surprised that this issue has become so controversial since
issues of access, habitat impacts, and the complications of private property have all
been commingled. She requested that because of the complexity of the matter Council
continue it until they have had time to carefully review a detailed staff report.
Barbara Dye, Rancho Palos Verdes, suggested scheduling and publicly announcing a
site visit so everyone interested in the matter has the opportunity to see the site and
understand what is occurring there.
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to continue the matter to
December 16th and to schedule a site visit for Council and interested members of the
public prior to that date. Motion carried without objection.
Mayor Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to approve the Agenda as
amended. Motion carried without objection.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Councilman Clark requested that Item No. 4, the Pavement Management Project, be
removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion.
Councilman McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to approve the
amended Consent Calendar as follows:
Motion to waive full reading.
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this meeting
with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all council members after
the reading of the title.
Minutes. (301)
Approved the minutes of October 21, 2003.
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Council members Clark and Gardiner abstained on the minutes of October 21, 2003.
Extension of Lease for Palos Verdes On- The -Net. (1101 x 602)
Authorized the extension of the lease agreement with Palos Verdes On -The -Net for use
of the portable building at City Hall until May 6, 2008.
Pavement Management Project. (1403 x 1204)
Councilman Clark stated he understands the reason for doing the Pavement
Management Program update is to comply with the periodic requirement under
Proposition C and queried what constitutes a regular updating and why the City looks to
an outside firm to perform that rather than the Public Works Department assuming the
responsibility.
Director Allison explained that Proposition C requires that an update occur every two
years, which turns out to be an optimal time for the City to review roadway conditions
and determine which streets should be overlaid and which should be slurried. He
added that, since roads decay and there is a need to quantify that deterioration, the
two -year requirement is a useful tool in providing the data necessary to make informed
roadway maintenance decisions. He further explained that the Public Works
Department is not organized or staffed to the degree which would allow the level of
attention required for a project of this scope and magnitude.
Councilman Clark questioned whether this particular update would minimize the need to
perform subsequent updates every two years or if it would downsize that requirement
since the City will have a digitized database outlining the existing quality of the
roadways.
Director Allison responded that the need would remain fairly constant necessitating an
expenditure of between $15,000 and $25,000 every two years to properly assess and
maintain the roadways.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to (1) Award an
engineering service contract to Harris and Associates for engineering services related
to the 2003 update of the City's Pavement Management Program; (2) Authorize the
Mayor and the City Clerk to execute a contract with Harris and Associates; and (3)
Authorize the expenditure of up to $19,700.
Resol. No. 2003 -94: Register of Demands.
ADOPTED RESOL. NO. 2003 -94, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS
AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
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The motion to approve the amended Consent Calendar carried on the following roll call
vote:
AYES: Ferraro, Clark, McTaggart, Gardiner, and Mayor Stern
NOES: None
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Establishing a fee to appeal the decision of the Director of Public Works on
public right -of -way permits. (1204 x 1408)
Mayor Stern announced that this was a continued public hearing from the October 21St
meeting.
Director Allison presented the staff report of November 18, 2003 and noted staff's
estimate that the City's cost for an appeal would be between $200 and $300. As such,
staff recommended a fee of $100 be paid by anyone appealing a decision.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro clarified that in the event a resident's appeal prevails, their $100
fee would be refunded.
Councilman McTaggart said his understanding was that the appeal fee would be front -
loaded into the application.
Mayor Stern indicated the administrative costs incurred by the City to refund money
when no hearing is requested would negate the benefit of charging that fee up front,
adding the City would spend money to return money and thereby bear the cost in every
situation where there is no appeal.
Councilman Clark commented that he could not understand how sending a check can
cost $200.
City Attorney Lynch explained that the cost includes any consultants retained by the
City to perform analysis of a site, the City Attorney's time to review the legality of the
Director's decision prior to its issuance, and the preparation of a staff report to present
to Council.
Councilman Gardiner queried how many applications and appeals come up in a given
year.
Director Allison answered that in the last two years roughly 25 applications have been
made of which none have been appealed.
City Attorney Lynch indicated that an appeal was recently filed by a telecommunications
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provider whose site was denied.
City Manager Evans clarified that the $100 appeal fee is not meant as a revenue
generator for the City but as a nominal fee to discourage frivolous appeals, adding that
most other cities have a modest appeal fee in place for this reason.
Ardis Prescott, Rancho Palos Verdes, expressed appreciation to the Council for
considering a lower fee and asked if the Planning Commission is addressing whether
providers will be limited to one site on a given street or if residents will have to appeal
the same company or potentially a different one in the event establishment of a location
is denied and they subsequently decide to move down the street a few doors to attempt
relocation of that site.
Director Allison said this entire issue is still a work in progress. He noted the question is
a very valid one and answered he would be hard pressed to request another appeal fee
from a person in this type of situation.
Councilman Clark queried if the City has any right to automatically deny succeeding
applications on a site that was previously denied.
City Attorney Lynch said the City has no right to a blanket prohibition which would
preclude providers from establishing a site somewhere in close proximity to one that
was previously denied. She added that the provider would be informed of the history of
a prior negative ruling of the site by Council and, hopefully, choose not to pursue it
further.
City Manager Evans noted it would be highly unlikely that Director Allison would
approve an application for a site he had previously denied.
Kathleen Kitagawa, Rancho Palos Verdes, said that although she is pleased that
Council has worked to lower the appeal fee she objects to the premise of that fee being
the responsibility of the residents. She opined it is unfair that residents are forced into
the position of fighting multi - million dollar corporations to preserve the safety and
integrity of their neighborhoods. She expressed concern over possible risks of
emissions from telecommunications facilities and what effect they might have on the
children and the community and strongly urged Council to stand up for their
constituents.
Mayor Stern said his understanding is that Congress has specifically legislated that
cities are prohibited from basing their decisions on any possible impacts from
electromagnetic radiation. He indicated that legally Council has no authority in this
regard.
David Kitagawa, Rancho Palos Verdes, noted his strong displeasure with the approval
process, saying since the City is receiving tax dollars from the residents they should not
be required to pay a fee for disagreeing with rulings which have an impact on the quality
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of their lives, families, and the community as a whole.
Hideo Kikomoto, Rancho Palos Verdes, suggested placing these contested
telecommunications antennas in parks rather than in residential neighborhoods, saying
this has been done in various other parts of greater Los Angeles. He also expressed
serious concern about the possible harmful effects if they are placed next to houses.
Councilman Clark indicated that, unfortunately, federal law preempts local jurisdictions
from dictating the rules in telecommunications issues. He noted that some years ago,
RPV was one of the first cities to devise a set of guidelines in their Development Code
specifically for wireless communication providers, prompting them to consolidate their
antennas and keep them out of residential neighborhoods whenever possible. He
encouraged those residents who feel passionately about this to contact their local
Congressman, Dana Rohrbacher, and State Senators Diane Feinstein and Barbara
Boxer and entreat them to push for a change of the governing federal statutes. He
added that despite the fact Council agrees with the residents on many of these issues
they are not in a position of control.
Mayor Stern noted that the City has worked diligently within the confines of its limited
jurisdiction to try to keep these facilities away from homes and direct their placement in
areas where they will have minimal impact on communities. He reiterated the point that
it is not a matter of disagreement, lack of will or desire but a lack of legal authority as
defined by Federal law.
Angeee McDowell, Rancho Palos Verdes, commented that she is relieved to know that
the City and the residents are not working against one another in this matter and
inquired if Council has the ability to require the providers to use the smallest most up -to-
date equipment available.
Councilman Gardiner answered that the City can make suggestions but, ultimately,
cannot require providers to use specific types of equipment. He assured everyone that
the City works very hard within the constraints of money and the regulations placed
upon it to look after the best interests of the community.
Councilman McTaggart stated emphatically that he would rather front -load the cost and
make the providers pay rather than roll over to them and place the burden on the City's
residents.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to approve staff
recommendation and ADOPT RESOL. NO. 2003 -95, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ESTABLISHING APPEAL
FEES FOR DECISIONS OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS DENYING OR
GRANTING APPLICATIONS FOR RIGHT -OF -WAY USE PERMITS.
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The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Ferraro, Clark, Gardiner and Mayor Stern
NOES: McTaggart
Mayor Stern declared the Public Hearing closed.
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor Stern recessed the meeting at 8:49 p.m. and
reconvened the meeting at 9:02 p.m.
CITY COUNCIL ORAL REPORTS:
Mayor pro tem Ferraro said it was her privilege to deliver the proclamation of the City to
the honorees of the Educator of the Year Dinner at the Los Verdes Country Club,
adding it has always been one of her favorite events. She mentioned that she attended
the Lomita Sheriff's Open House and conveyed that the deputies are very grateful to
the City Council for restoring the third CORE deputy. She declared her appreciation for
the Sheriff's Department and commended them for all they have done and continue to
do for the City.
Councilman Gardiner stated that he had the opportunity to attend the swearing in
ceremony for the new Governor of California and commented that it was a very uplifting
and extraordinary event which left him with a feeling of future cooperation between the
State and local government.
Councilman Gardiner informed that progress is being made at the Cable TV
Subcommittee meetings and that a collective program is being drafted for Channel 3.
He noted that progress is also being made to substitute the logo on Channel 33 with
programming.
Mayor Stern mentioned that he and Councilman Clark met with representatives from
Ocean Trails regarding the Concours d'Elegance. He assured residents that the City
would continue to impose conditions to mitigate any negative impacts that might be
created by this project such as dust and parking problems.
Councilman McTaggart attended a SCOG Housing Committee meeting on November
6th which focused on the future of the Compass Project. He noted that Operation Jump
Start, which includes a controversial double- decking plan for the 710 Freeway, was
discussed as part of the Regional Transportation Plan. On November 7th he attended
the Cable Committee meeting.
November 8th Councilman McTaggart attended the Lomita Sheriff's Open House, taking
the opportunity to thank many of the officers he has worked with over the years for their
service to RPV. On November 12th, at an LAX Round Table meeting, he discussed the
yet unresolved issue of over flights of the Peninsula and participated in the planning
strategy for next year's work program.
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He reported on statistics from the November 13th Regional Sheriffs' meeting in Rolling
Hills, showing that injury collisions in RPV are down for the second year in a row. He
also reported that a second confirmed case of the West Nile Virus was
announced at the L.A. West Vector Control Board meeting on November 13th.
Councilman McTaggart met with Tom McFadden at Marymount on November 13th
where he viewed the latest campus improvement designs.
On the morning of November 18th he and Director Allison accompanied City
maintenance workers to assess the drainage problem he previously reported in
Klondike Canyon. He stated they discovered an eight -foot section of pipe that needs to
be replaced and believes this could be an inexpensive solution to the problem.
Councilman McTaggart expressed sincere gratitude to all those who have supported
him over the years and commended the new Council members in their upcoming task.
Councilman Clark described his visit with City Manager Evans to the City Council in
La Canada /Flintridge where they made a presentation of the City's Neighborhood
Compatibility Ordinance and guidelines. He noted that their presentation resulted in a
letter of appreciation from Mark Alexander, the La Canada /Flintridge City Manager, and
an article in the local paper complimenting the City of RPV. He stressed the
importance of exchanging strategies and ideas with other cities in the region to help
maintain the quality of life for residents of all these respective communities.
On November 6th Councilman Clark attended the monthly L.A. Division meeting of the
League of California Cities Executive Board, where the guest speaker, Mark Pisano, the
Executive Director of SCAG, discussed the challenges faced by the entire region in the
coming years, including air quality, income levels, housing assessments, transportation,
and mechanisms for increasing revenue in these times of severe budget constraints.
He suggested Council invite him to present an overview of his assessment of the
regional outlook at a future meeting.
Councilman Clark stated that he met with Vincent Stellio and toured the affordable
housing units and maintenance facility at Ocean Trails, which he found quite
impressive. He stated that the Trump Organization is currently interested in having the
City and Council address how to move forward effectively on installing a driving range
at the facility.
On November 9th he attended the Palos Verdes Land Conservancy City Picnic, a fund-
raising event celebrating what the Conservancy has done so far and what their future
plans are for the acquisition and preservation of open space in the community.
Councilman Clark attended the League of California Cities Leaders' Workshop from
November 13th to the 15th and participated in a discussion of strategies and priorities for
the coming year. He outlined the League's priorities as follows: 1) raising funds and
awareness for the success of the November 2004 ballot initiative to constitutionally
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guarantee local revenues; 2) expanding the supply of housing and transportation in
balance with job creation; and, 3) continuing to restore public confidence in government
particularly at the local level by focusing on education, ethics, and awareness of the roll
of elected officials.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Janice Lamont, San Pedro, addressed Council regarding damage to her car which
occurred at a Colich & Sons work site on April 24, 2003 and a problem she
subsequently encountered with their insurance department. She stated that she
originally brought the matter before the Council in July 2003 where it was determined
the City bore no responsibility for the incident and her claim was forwarded to Colich &
Sons for resolution. She informed Council that her treatment by Colich & Sons has
been extremely unprofessional; that she has received neither redress nor disposition of
the matter; and requested the City's assistance in determining if any other claims for
damage at the time and place of her accident have been filed.
City Manager Evans indicated that he was not aware of any other claims but would
have staff investigate the matter.
Mayor Stern commented the City prefers to deal with reputable companies acting in
good faith and, understanding there are two sides to every story, recommended that
staff make appropriate inquiries into the matter.
Councilman Gardiner concurred with the Mayor's position, saying the City does have
the right to consider a company's actions and integrity when making decisions
regarding future contracts and employment.
City Clerk Purcell indicated she would forward Mrs. Lamont 's information to the City's
Risk Manager.
Lois Larue, Rancho Palos Verdes, reiterated her concerns regarding bicyclists
continuing to ride on Palos Verdes Drive South despite signage informing them that
there is no longer a bike lane.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
Establishment of the process to approve aboveground facilities in the public
right -of -way. (1204 x 1408)
City Attorney Lynch presented the staff memorandum of November 18, 2003. She
stated that a meeting was held with a number of cellular providers, the gas company,
the water company, Southern California Edison, and some of the landline providers and
that all companies requested extra time to allow them to make suggestions and provide
additional input to staff. She noted that some of the primary concerns mentioned
include time frames for application processing and issues about technical feasibility.
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Director Allison indicated that he had a very constructive meeting with the President of
the Council of Homeowners regarding some of the resident issues such as notification
and the time allotment for providing mock -ups and added that input from a variety of
sources will be beneficial in drafting the ordinance.
Mayor Stern reiterated his suggestion to include a provision in the proposed ten -year
renewal of these permits setting a fixed date ten years hence for review of all permits
issued within the next five years and five years hence for those issued beyond that,
saying this would provide a logical time for the City to address them as a whole rather
than permit by permit.
City Attorney Lynch stated she mentioned the Mayor's suggestion to the providers and
a number of them took issue with it, saying they believe the word "term" should be
rewritten because they contend, probably correctly, that once the permit is issued they
have a vested right.
Mayor Stern, appreciating the fact that input from the providers has yet to be received,
stated that he will request, absent a convincing argument to the contrary, that the
ordinance as ultimately written provides a consistent review date, saying, if the City has
the right to review, the timing for that review should make no difference.
Mayor Stern requested clarification on the bond mentioned in the staff report.
City Attorney Lynch replied that some of the cellular and utility companies have
complained that the City should not be allowed to address their financial capability with
respect to transfers or buyouts by other companies, believing this protection to be
afforded them by Federal law. She explained that other cities have dealt with this by
requiring a bond be posted so the proceeds of the bond can be used to remove a
facility in the event a company goes out of business or is not properly maintaining it.
Mayor Stern opined that residents are entitled to that protection and their tax dollars
absolutely should not be used to remove improperly maintained or abandoned sites.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to continue the matter
to January 20th. The motion passed without objection.
Technical Review of the Draft Environmental Impact Report for the Proposed
South Coast County Golf Course at the Former Palos Verdes Landfill. (310)
Senior Planner Fox presented the staff memorandum of November 18, 2003.
Mayor Stern indicated that, although he had a very productive conversation with
Supervisor Knabe, the County had not yet extended the December deadline for the
DEIR comment period and advised all concerned to get their comments in by that time.
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Councilman Gardiner strongly recommended the City hire its own consultant to
guarantee that the City's specific interests and questions are properly addressed. He
explained that the Palos Verdes landfill has applied for a Title V permit under a section
of the Federal Clean Air Act which pertains to sites that are considered a major source
of pollution because they discharge ten tons or more of toxic emissions a year. He
mentioned that the results of an air monitoring study performed in the landfill area near
Rancho Vista were flawed and inconclusive and stressed the importance of gathering
facts in order to understand the underlying landfill and what, if any, possible health risks
might be imposed on persons in that vicinity.
Councilman Clark opined that since the issue is of great concern to both this City and
the City of Rolling Hills Estates this would be an ideal opportunity for the sister cities to
commit resources and collaborate with a team of consultants. He countered that hiring
a separate consultant might have the unintended consequence of creating "a war of the
wizards" where competing consultants might take diametrically opposed positions,
leaving both cities with conflicting information and no comprehensive direction in which
to proceed.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro commented that she was not compelled at the outset to spend
money to evaluate a project outside of the city; however, knowing that many students at
Rancho Vista are residents of RPV, she recommended the City hire its own consultant
to address those questions! which may concern RPV but are not necessarily an issue
for Rolling Hills Estates.
Mayor Stern concurred that hiring a separate consultant would provide the City the
opportunity to focus attention on its specific questions and also, hopefully, provide a
collaboration of experts to share information on the common interests of the two cities.
Councilman McTaggart emphasized the importance of safeguarding the community and
noted that the additional cost incurred by the City to hire its own consultant would be
money well spent to ensure the protection of its residents.
Councilman Clark reiterated his concern over conflicting information from competing
consulting teams and stated he remains unconvinced that the two cities cannot work in
an integrated fashion to consolidate a team of consultants.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to (1) Review the
staff report and the City's options for reviewing the Draft Environmental Impact Report
(DEIR) for the proposed South Coast County Golf Course; and (2) ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -96 APPROVING A $5,000 BUDGET APPROPRIATION
FOR PROFESSIONAL/TECHNICAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE REVIEW OF
THE DEIR to be used to retain the services of The Source Group, Inc. for technical
review of the DEIR.
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The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Gardiner, Ferraro, McTaggart, and Mayor Stern
NOES: Clark
Neighborhood Traffic Calming Study —South Eastview Community. (1502 x 1204)
Director Allison presented the staff memorandum of November 18, 2003 and
mentioned that he received late correspondence from the President of the
Homeowner's Association voicing support for the action.
Councilman McTaggart pointed out that he recently. viewed videotape from 1985 where
the City Council agreed to spend $6,000 for a traffic study in this same area. He noted
the area was studied again in 1991, resulting in stop signs being installed which have
not solved the problem. He stressed the importance of fully addressing and resolving
the matter once and for all.
Councilman Gardiner stated that he is in favor of solving the problem but queried what
information could be acquired from a third study that has not already been learned from
the two previous studies or those done in other areas. He suggested employing
random speed enforcement to help curtail the incidence of speeding.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro mentioned that great concern over the situation was expressed
in a recent discussion with a group of residents from the area. She noted that new data
is needed to compare whether to employ speed humps, additional signage, no left turns
during certain hours, traffic circles, et cetera because things are very different than they
were in 1985 and 1991, rendering data collected from those previous studies irrelevant.
Councilman Clark concurred, adding that the studies of the past are outmoded by the
dynamics of the community today. He noted that there are probably three or four
feasible approaches to solving this problem and strongly advocated proceeding with a
study including a traffic engineer working in conjunction with the stakeholders, the
community, staff, and the Traffic Committee. He stated that the residents of the South
Eastview community have a near crisis on their hands with issues of cut - through traffic,
safety, and speed and added that it is important for Council to learn from what occurred
on Via Rivera which is that there needs to be a thoughtful, comprehensive analysis of
all the meaningful alternatives rather than a point solution.
Mayor Stern also expressed support, saying the City needs to obtain the data in order
to understand what options are available based on the area's specific configuration and
traffic flow to be able to provide a viable solution. He stated traffic issues cannot be
addressed citywide on a "one size fits all" basis but rather need to be tailored for the
situation of a given community with its unique set of circumstances.
Councilman Gardiner pointed out there had been a great deal of speeding around the
Marymount area of PV Drive East until Sergeant Lopez arrived on the scene and began
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issuing tickets, noting that many people complained but the speeding stopped. He
stated his belief that you don't need a study to prove enforcement does work and that
placing someone in an area to write tickets will indeed reduce speeds. He said that
although he does not oppose neighborhood -by- neighborhood solutions he questions
whether or not traffic matters should be addressed and implemented citywide at a
policy level.
Mayor Stern reiterated that a citywide solution would inherently fail because of each
area's unique configuration and circumstances.
Councilman Clark indicated that there are traffic problems throughout the city, but this
particular community has waited for quite some time for City leadership to effectively
deal with their specific issues.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to (1) Authorize
the expenditure of $9,870 for traffic engineering services related to the South Eastview
Neighborhood Traffic Calming Study; and (2) ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -97,
APPROVING A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT OF $9,870 TO THE TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT BUDGET FOR PREPARATION OF THE SOUTH EASTVIEW
NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING STUDY. The motion carried without objection.
Ganado Trail. (450 x 1203)
Continued to December 16th; staff to finalize a report and make it available to the public;
December 16 staff report to include public comments and analyze the process followed
in this matter to see if it can be improved.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT:
Approved settlement agreements with CJPIA re San Ramon and with the County of Los
Angeles for Pt. Vicente cleanup.
Mayor Stern concluded the last meeting he will preside over as Mayor by thanking the
Council members for all their support during his term, saying it has been a very good
year.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was formally adjourned at 10:39 p.m.
Mayor
Attest:
City Clerk
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