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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 20, 2003
The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m. by Mayor pro tem Barbara Ferraro at Fred Hesse
Community Park 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, Rancho Palos Verdes.
Roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart and Mayor Pro Tern Ferraro
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
Also present were City Manager Les Evans; City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of
Planning, Building and Code Enforcement Joel Rojas; Director of Public Works Dean
Allison; Deputy Planning Director Gregory Pfost; Director of Finance Dennis McLean;
Senior Planner Kit Fox; Administrative Services Director /City Clerk Jo Purcell; and
Minutes Secretary Debra Presutti.
Councilman Gardiner led the Pledge of Allegiance.
CEREMONIAL MATTER:
Ted Vegvari of P.V. Net (PVN) presented a check for $1,000 to Diane Weinberger,
President of the Pet Protectors. This check represented funds raised from donations
received for video "It's a Dog's Life which was jointly produced by PVN and the Point
Vicente Animal Hospital.
RECYCLE DRAWING
Norman Kajikawa and James Packcharis were selected as recyclers of the month.
Mayor Pro tem Ferraro thanked all who participate in the recycling program.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
City Manager Evans requested on behalf of Mayor Stern that Item No. 14 on the
agenda be continued until he could attend to discuss the matter.
City Attorney Lynch requested an urgency item related to the possible removal of
habitat be placed on the agenda.
It was the consensus of Council to place the item on the agenda and make it the first
matter after the public hearings.
Councilman McTaggart , seconded by Councilman Clark, to approve the agenda as
amended. Motion carried.
Presentation By So. Calif. Edison
Scott Gobble of Southern California Edison addressed the meeting in reference to the
power grid serving Rancho Palos Verdes and how it relates to circuit outages in the
area.
He explained that the hill is serviced by a variety of high voltage circuits, both overhead
and underground, coming from different local areas. Because there is not one
centralized system serving the hill, a "mish- mash" effect is created, thereby allowing
neighbors on the same street to be affected or unaffected by a single outage.
He stated that there are several reasons for outages, including vehicles that strike utility
poles, weather - related conditions, equipment failure, wildlife, and trees.
He stressed that SCE maintains stringent records to address maintenance issues,
hopefully before a problem occurs, and stated that money is being spent to replace or
upgrade the equipment.
He urged residents to cooperate in SCE's ability to properly maintain the power lines by
keeping pad mounts and underground equipment boxes clearly visible. He explained
that, by cleverly disguising these structures, it makes it extremely difficult to gain access
to the lines to quickly restore power.
He also stated that the single largest factor in outages is trees. He recommended that
residents trim or "lace" their trees every two to three years.
Councilman Clark queried what percentage of power lines were overhead as opposed
to underground. He also mentioned that Council had sponsored a resolution that was
adopted as a major policy statement by the California League of Cities that encouraged
the California Public Utilities Commission to work with the power companies to find
more creative ways to move the overhead to underground. He asked what steps SCE
was taking to address this issue.
Mr. Gobble answered that in RPV approximately 30 percent of the lines are
underground and 70 percent are overhead. He mentioned that SCE is currently
mortgaged out from previous projects but believes they receive approximately $250,000
a year that is applied to undergrounding. He stated these funds could be used any way
the Council sees fit. He also brought up Rule 20A Funds, which can be used by the
City as a guarantee for engineering advances on community projects. Additionally, he
mentioned an "overhead equivalency" program, under which the C.P.U.C. has directed
utility companies to credit money to any community installing an underground system
because less maintenance is required initially. He said there has been a decrease of
12 to 17 percent in the cost of these projects in 2003 but they are still very expensive.
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He mentioned that there was an accident recently in which a couple employees were
injured. In response to questions by Council members regarding their condition, he
reported that they were at Sherman Oaks Hospital being treated and their prognoses
were good.
In summation, he advised residents to stay away from any fallen lines and to call the
800 number on their utility bill to report trees down, lines down, or any unusual noises
related to power outages.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
City Clerk Jo Purcell advised Council that there were three speakers who wished to
address the Parking Regulation Ordinance, which was a Consent Calendar Item. It was
the consensus of Council to remove that item from the Consent Calendar and discuss
prior to the Public Hearing section of the agenda.
Councilman McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to approve the
Consent Calendar as follows:
Motion to waive full reading.
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this meeting
with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all council members after
the reading of the title.
Minutes. (301)
Approved the minutes of April 14th and April 26, 2003. .
Resol. No. 2003 -32: In -lieu Affordable Housing Fund Program. (701 x 1203)
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -32, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES EXTENDING THE IN -LIEU AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FUND PROGRAM FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS.
General Services Agreement with the County of Los Angeles. (308)
Approved the General Services Agreement (GSA) between the City of Rancho Palos
Verdes and the County of Los Angeles and authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to
execute the Agreement.
Ordinance No. 389: Neighborhood Compatibility. (1801)
ADOPTED ORDINANCE NO. 389, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO
PALOS VERDES AMENDING CHAPTER 17.02 (SINGLE- FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
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DISTRICTS) OF TITLE 17 OF THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE TO MODIFY THE
NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND THE ROOF DECK REQUIREMENTS FOR
CITYWIDE RESIDENTIAL ZONED NEIGHBORHOODS. (This ordinance was
INTRODUCED at the May 6th City Council meeting.)
Resol. Nos. 2003 -33, 34, and 35: Citywide Landscaping and Lighting Maintenance
District. (901)
(1) ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -33, INITIATING PROCEEDINGS FOR THE
LEVY AND COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THE CITYWIDE
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR
2003 -2004 AND ORDERING THE ENGINEER TO PREPARE A REPORT IN
CONNECTION THEREWITH; (2) ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -349
APPROVING THE ENGINEER'S REPORT IN CONNECTION WITH THE LEVY AND
COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THE CITYWIDE LANDSCAPING AND
LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2003 -2004; and (3)
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -35, DECLARING THE CITY COUNCIL'S
INTENTION TO LEVY AND COLLECT ASSESSMENTS WITHIN THE CITYWIDE
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR
2003 -2004 AND SETTING A TIME AND PLACE FOR HEARING OBJECTIONS
THERETO.
Resol. No. 2003 -36: Register of Demands.
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2003 -36, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, McTaggart,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
Gardiner, Mayor pro tem Ferraro
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Ordinance No. 390: Regulating Parking Of Certain Vehicles. (1801)
Ernie Giannioses, Rancho Palos Verdes, reiterated that data on the effects of
Ordinance No. 390 should be collected and reviewed in six months. He suggested
Council implement a mediation process to help keep complaints to a minimum. He
recommended that, if special on- street parking permits were to be issued to visitors, the
process be kept simple and free of charge. He also voiced concern that perhaps the
ordinance would force vehicles to the street, creating the need for a future street
ordinance.
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Mayor pro tem Ferraro commented that the ordinance did not address street parking.
Councilman Gardiner remarked that the ordinance does not deal with street parking but
added that the Staff had been directed to provide input to the Planning Committee on
its impact.
Councilman Gardiner queried whether data was going to be collected and how
meaningful comparisons were going to be made in six months.
City Manager Evans replied that data would be collected by the Planning Department
that would consist of whether parking problems had been created, the number of
complaints received, and the numbers of citations and permits issued.
Councilman Clark expressed concern over the legislation of specific standards for
vehicle covers.
City Attorney Lynch stated it is more of a property maintenance issue than one of
esthetics, with the deciding test being whether there is an adverse impact on the
neighborhood. She advised Council could eliminate that particular standard if they
found it unreasonable.
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes, questioned whether a directive would address the
specific issue of parking on a paved driveway in the landslide areas, where many
residents find it difficult to maintain paved driveways. She also queried whether the
ordinance applied to horse -drawn vehicles.
City Attorney Lynch responded that the ordinance does not specify driveways but that
vehicles must be parked on paved surfaces. She stated that the section applies to
motorized and non - motorized vehicles and said that any operational vehicle in good
condition does not have to be covered or stored in a fully enclosed structure; on the
other hand, if it is in pieces or in a dilapidated condition it must be covered or stored in
an enclosure.
Ralph Ortolano, Rancho Palos Verdes, expressed concern about subsection 6 -A as it
relates to prohibiting the parking of a carriage, horse trailer, etc. on unpaved land or an
undeveloped lot regardless of property ownership. He stated that if the actual reason
for this was prompted by owners creating areas for others to store vehicles on their
land, that specific issue should be addressed
Councilman Gardiner asked if Section 1, Part 6 -A affected the ability of persons to park
their family and commuter cars on the street. He also inquired on the point of creating
an unreasonable burden on certain residents in areas where the pavement is not
always stable.
City Attorney Lynch responded that family and commuter cars were allowed to park on
the street.
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City Manager Evans explained that the ordinance is not a new one, having been in
effect throughout Southern California cities for quite some time. He added that it is not
unreasonably enforced.
Director Rojas explained that parts of the ordinance were written in response to
complaints.
Councilman McTaggart expressed concern that the full Council was not present to vote
on the ordinance and requested that Mayor Stern be in attendance for any further
decision.
Councilman Clark noted that the City had gone through a very thoughtful and deliberate
process to review this, and he found it to be a reasonable refinement to the code. He
mentioned that it had been assigned to the Planning Commission more than a year
ago, adding that they had spent considerable time with Staff, received input from the
Good Neighbor Sam Club, and looked at benchmark cities that had already dealt with
the matter. He agreed that the matter should be reviewed in six months not only by the
Planning Commission but the City Counsel as well to determine if the code refinements
are operating and having the desired effect.
Councilman Clark also mentioned that his understanding at the last meeting was that
Mayor Stern was supportive of the code refinements. As such, he felt his absence
should not delay the enactment and the matter should move forward. He concurred
with Councilmen Gardiner and McTaggart's position regarding the "legislation of
esthetics" and suggested the language be improved in Paragraph 6 -D, in relation to
design for a particular type of vehicle. He stated that he would not object to refinement
of that wording to include the ability to get a generic cover for the vehicle to be stored
on a paved surface. With that exception, he expressed satisfaction with the ordinance.
City Attorney Lynch stated that it would be very easy to delete the language about "that
was designed for the particular type of vehicle," and say the vehicle must be kept in a
well- maintained condition or be covered with a vehicle cover provided that the cover is
maintained in good repair.
Councilman Gardiner queried what "maintained in good repair" means. He stated that
he found it too broad. He brought up the original reason the matter came to the
attention of the Council and stated he was unclear as to the extent of the problems of
some of the other issues being addressed. He-made reference to an earlier discussion
that brought up the issue of anticipating problems and solving them before they
occurred. He stated he suspects the City gets more complaints about barking dogs
than it does some of the things being addressed by the ordinance.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro commented that it was initiated originally to address specific
complaints by residents.
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Director Rojas explained that if a complaint is received saying a house is unsightly or in
need of repair, the City performs an inspection. If the property is in obvious disrepair, a
letter is sent requesting it be cleaned up; if it is minor or not obvious, it is not pursued.
City Attorney Lynch brought up the existing language in Paragraph 5, recommending
that Council could make the distinction between "abandoned, wrecked, dismantled, or
inoperative," by keeping those vehicles inside and everything operable could be kept
outside. She added that paragraph D could be deleted and, if a problem ensued, the
issue could come back to Council. She stated the code enforcement problems brought
to the City Attorney's office dealt specifically with noncompliance related to abandoned,
dismantled, or inoperable vehicles.
Councilman Clark expressed interest in the genesis of the aesthetics condition. He
explained that he has received numerous complaints from residents about the esthetics
of parked vehicles that are left at length on properties. He deemed it a reasonable
approach to do something for the whole community.
Councilman Gardiner questioned again if Council was clear on whether they have the
right to talk about aesthetics.
Councilman Clark stated the if Council did not have this right they would not have the
code enforcement ability to cite properties that had become totally ill maintained in
terms of landscaping.
Councilman Gardiner wondered whether that would be a safety issue rather than one of
aesthetics, adding that he is trying to determine what the City can legitimately do and
properly articulate that to solve a problem.
City Attorney Lynch responded that the test is whether a property is kept in such a
terrible condition that it becomes an issue of public safety or public nuisance because
of its adverse impact on the adjacent properties and their values.
Councilman Clark moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to RE- INTRODUCE
ORDINANCE NO. 3909 AS AMENDED - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO
PALOS VERDES REGULATING THE PARKING OF CERTAIN VEHICLES ON
PRIVATE PROPERTY AND AMENDING THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL
CODE. (This ordinance was INTRODUCED at the May 6th City Council meeting.)
City Attorney Lynch suggested making a revision to Paragraph C by adding the word
"overnight" to the language "any vehicle shall be parked or stored on a driveway or
other lot with an installed paved surface." She stated this would address the parking
issue raised earlier.
Councilman Clark reiterated that his motion is to strike the words "designed for a
particular type of vehicle" so that the required vehicle cover is generic and universal.
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Mayor pro tem Ferraro directed the Staff to review the matter in six months.
The motion to approve the reintroduction of Ordinance 390 as amended carried on the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, McTaggart, Mayor pro tem Ferraro
NOES: Gardiner
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
Lois Larue, Rancho Palos Verdes, mentioned concerns about the warrant register and
suggested that Council consider more cost - effective alternatives to certain
expenditures. She mentioned that Cornerstone and a few other schools had been
granted $100 each for Earth Day. She also stressed the importance of voting.
Councilman Clark explained that the grants for Earth Day were for recycling and that
Waste Management matched the grants; so each school received $200.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Review of Large Domestic Animal Nonconformity Statement No. 26. (1804)
Mayor pro tem Ferraro reopened the public hearing.
Senior Planner Fox presented the Staff Memorandum of May 20, 2003 and sought
direction from the Council on the following questions: (1) how many horses should be
allowed to be kept on the property; (2) how many of the horses allowed to be kept on
the property can be boarded horses; and, (3) may the nonconforming boarding of
horses, if permitted, be allowed to continue in perpetuity or will it be subject to the
provision in the City's municipal code? He noted that based upon the City Council's
direction, Staff would prepare an appropriate resolution to memorialize this action for
adoption at an upcoming City Council meeting.
Councilman Gardiner expressed concern that the Council had already heard the matter,
made a decision and was now being asked to reopen it and consider letters correcting
previous deficiencies.
City Attorney Lynch explained that it was at Council's discretion to determine the
credibility of the evidence.
Mayor pro tern Ferraro reminded Council that one of the reasons for the rehearing was
that Mr. Sutton claimed to be unaware of the prior hearing and was not present to
provide evidence. She stated this was an opportunity for him to prove his case and
clarify the inconsistencies. She remarked that she was interested in hearing any
speakers providing new evidence before deciding whether or not to change Council's
previous action.
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Daphne Clarke, Rancho Palos Verdes, reiterated her previous testimony that from 1975
to the present she had never seen more than four horses on the Sutton's property at
any that time.
Jeanne Smolley, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that she has never observed more than
five horses on the Sutton's property except for a brief occasion when horses were
brought in in 1997.
Robert Maxwell, Rancho Palos Verdes, testified that Mr. Sutton neither had horses on
the dates or in the numbers required and pleaded for a denial of his application. He
commented that the slide area has seen horse usage increase from a very few horses
belonging to residents to an ever increasing number from outside the community. He
concluded by stating that the situation is creating a decline in property values and had
gone well beyond what the community desired or its esthetics could sustain.
Madeline Ryan, Rancho Palos Verdes, admitted that she couldn't speak specifically to
Mr. Sutton's property. She mentioned that until March 18th, Staff had recommended ten
horses for his property and then changed it to four despite conflicting evidence. She
opined that the land could accommodate ten horses and expressed dismay over
preservation of the horse keeping tradition if large parcels were not protected through
grandfathering. She .stated it would be a loss to future property owners and would
promote a decline in the equestrian population and lifestyle. She concluded by
requesting Council reconsider the number of horses permitted on the Sutton's property.
Joe Deeble, Rancho Palos Verdes, mentioned that his observations of the Sutton's
property were already on record. He stated that his homeowner's association had
taken a vote regarding developing properties for commercial boarding and an
overwhelming majority decided they did not want the renting of space for horse
boarding in the community. He said the Planning Commission had been informed of
the community's desire not to commercialize the vacant properties for any reason.
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes, indicated that her concern had more to do with how
the issue impacts the viability of horse keeping in the City in general. She disagreed
with the City's original horse - keeping ordinance as far as the cap on numbers of horses
regardless of the size of the property. She concluded by saying the question of how
many horses may be allowed on a property in perpetuity should be answered by how
many horses can be safely and sanitarily kept in the existing facility.
Richard Barra, Rancho Palos Verdes, testified that since 1979 he has seen six, eight,
or ten horses at the Sutton barn. He explained that it is the nature of horse keeping for
the numbers to go up and down. He agreed that perhaps the Suttons had gone down
to four horses but that was after the date of February 1, 1997 and, as such, should not
affect the application. He stated that grandfathering began as the result of a new law
drastically reducing the number of horses that could be kept and, it was determined by
Council at that time, that the people already in possession of horses should be allowed
some sort of process to allow them to continue.
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Ed Sutton, Rancho Palos Verdes, testified that he had 10 animals in 1975 and 10 or 11
in February of 1997. He said he could provide evidence showing a continuity of
boarded animals on the property from '76 to '86. He stated he arrived at these figures
using letters from previous boarders. In response to the testimony by others disputing
the number of horses on the property, he stated that his first corral was behind the
house and is not viewable from the street because it is below grade on both parcels.
Councilman Gardiner inquired whether any of the authors of the revised letters were in
attendance.
Mr. Sutton replied that for various reasons none of the authors were available to attend.
He added that he thought the letters would stand on their own merit and he was not
aware of the need to provide witnesses to attest to their veracity.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro remarked that she felt it was made clear to Mr. Sutton upon his
request to reopen the matter that he should bring any witnesses he had to testify about
whether or not their horses boarded on his property.
Councilman Clark requested Mr. Sutton clarify the photographic evidence which
appeared not to show any corral or barn in the 1975 -1976 time frame. He also asked
for an explanation of why of some of his neighbors had testified they had never seen
more than four of five horses on the property.
Mr. Sutton responded that he did not have a barn and never maintained that he did. He
stated he had open corrals with a two -rail fence and some stables in back of one of the
properties until approximately 1971. He added that his neighbors were in error because
in 1981 and 1983 he was issued citations for having too many animals. He reiterated
that the area where the horses were kept was not viewable from off the property.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro requested verification of the revised statements that implied that
five horses were boarded on the Sutton property. She commented that, assuming
these statements were taken at face value and adding the three horses Mr. Sutton
purported to own at the time, there were eight horses.
Senior Planner Fox mentioned that at the March 18th meeting Council had accepted a
statement from Adrienne Murray as being validated, indicating she had one horse there
during that time period.
Council members and Staff discussed the issue of the trigger dates of 1975 and 1997
and their relationship to the matter.
Councilman McTaggart took issue with Mr. Sutton's claim that his neighbors were
unaware of the number of horses on his property because they could not see them and
commented they would have been aware of their presence by means other than visual
observation. He stated that he remained unconvinced.
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In response to a question from Councilman Clark, Senior Planner Fox represented that
a best guess by Staff on the numbers would be between three and five boarded horses
and three horses owned by the Suttons on the property in 1997. He stated he was
unsure of this number because Code Enforcement Staff did not inspect the site until
1998, adding that only four horses were verified on that date. He pointed out that there
is no direct evidence to substantiate the numbers in 1975 and referred to a Staff Report
for a Special Animal Permit that made reference to there being one horse on the
property on that date in August 1976. He concluded by saying a "best guess" for 1975
would have been six horses.
Councilman Gardiner expressed discomfort at Staff's ".best guess" of the numbers and
reiterated that he would have preferred the direct testimony of witnesses rather than
unsubstantiated numbers and the uncorroborated evidence of revised letters.
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor pro tem Ferraro recessed the meeting at 9:15 P.M.
and reconvened the meeting at 9:25 P.M.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro stated that Mr. Sutton had some horses in both 1975 and 1997
but agreed that the actual number was difficult to determine. She added that the
original nonconformity statement requested ten horses.
Senior Planner Fox replied that in 1997 Mr Sutton requested that seven horses be
grandfathered in perpetuity under the 1975 exception. He noted that the original
statement was that they had kept as many as twelve on the property at that time and
had between five and twelve in 1975.
City Attorney Lynch advised that according to the Staff Report being referenced the City
would have legally construed only six to him at that time and in no event should the
number in 1975 exceed six.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro recommended grandfathering six boarded horses in perpetuity
from 1975. She inquired if that number included any horses owned by Mr. Sutton.
Attorney Lynch responded that the total number would be six horses, all or any of which
could be boarded.
Senior Planner Fox noted that it would depend on the number present in 1997 because
the 1975 date only relates to boarding in perpetuity and not the overall number kept.
Councilman Clark pointed out that Staff's estimate was three to five horses and the
ordinance states five or more.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro commented that her understanding is that Mr. Sutton is entitled
to four by right with the ability to file for a Special Use Permit if he wished to have more
based on his acreage.
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Senior Planner Fox responded that the Council must be convinced that there were five
or more horses boarded on February 1, 1997; otherwise the whole argument is moot.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro remarked that in 1997 there were six boarded horses and three
of the Sutton's own, concluding that was one more than the trigger number required.
She added that he owned the property in July 1975 and legally boarded five or more
that would allow boarding to be grandfathered in perpetuity.
Senior Planner Fox replied that if Council determined that there were six horses
boarded in 1997 and that there were six or more boarded from 1975, then six could be
boarded in perpetuity. He added that number does not include any horses that the
Suttons owned; so if they owned an additional three horses in 1997, they could keep
those in perpetuity as their own horses.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro announced that she would be willing to grant eight horses.
Councilman Gardiner reiterated the importance of the hearing and the fact that letters
had been presented which were adjusted in a non - pejorative sense and that no one
was available to answer questions about those letters. On the other hand a number of
residents had come forward, and he found no reason to doubt their testimony.
Councilman Clark agreed, adding that he also had a problem with the fact that Staff
was not sure of the actual number in 1997, which would make the whole argument
moot. He opined that there was no substantial evidence that corroborated the five or
more horses in 1997, saying Council should revert to its previous conclusion.
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to reaffirm the
Council decision made on March 18, 2003 that the maximum number of large domestic
animals that may be " grandfathered" for keeping and /or boarding on the property at 16
Peppertree Drive is four.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart,
NOES: Mayor pro tem Ferraro
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
CITY COUNCIL ORAL REPORTS
Councilman Gardiner stated that he went to the PV Transit meeting where budgets
were being discussed. Since the operation is heavily subsidized, he questioned a line
item in the budget containing a sizable sum from the County, asking if they had done
some contingency planning in case that funding gets cut. He stated he received a letter
from the Coastal Land Coalition, which mentioned an Assembly Bill 947 that restricts
and ultimately prohibits coastal protected areas such as sea walls and bulk heads from
being used for public roads, sewers, storm drains, parks, parking lots, and private
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homes. He was uncertain of the validity of this information but expressed concern at
the implications.
City Manager Evans assured everyone that the bill died in committee.
Councilman Clark attended the California League of Cities Legislative Days in
Sacramento with Councilman McTaggart. He stated they interfaced with a number of
state legislators and elected officials from throughout the state who were in Sacramento
to ensure that the State budget not be solved on the backs of local government, cities
or counties. He stated that a resolution providing direction and authority to the League
to pursue budget solutions protecting local government was unanimously approved.
He mentioned that it was one of the most forceful voices of local government to the
State Legislature and the Administration in terms of making sure the cities and counties
don't get short shrifted.
Councilman McTaggart met with the new head of the Sheriffs Training and Loss
Prevention Organization. He reported that Lakewood had asked for some funds to
support their 50th anniversary, which was voted down by the Executive Board of
Contract Cities. He also attended the West Vector Control District meeting in Culver
City on May 8, 2003. He happily noted that no new cases of the West Nile virus had
been reported in the area. He attended a meeting of the MTA Sector Council on May
9th and the RPV Community Leaders' Breakfast and the budget workshop on the 10th.
He stated the Budget Workshop went very well with many tough decisions being made.
He was impressed by how much was accomplished.
Councilman McTaggart also met with Mary Roderman on May 12th concerning the
Historical Society vacating the Malaga Cove School site. He stated that as founder of
the Rancho de Los Palos Verdes Historical Society, he is concerned about what
happens to their collection. On May 12th he also attended a Cable Committee meeting.
He also met with attorney Bill Ruddell.
Councilman McTaggart expressed pleasure at the numbers of people energized on the
budget issues when he attended the California League of Cities Legislative Days. He
was very appreciative of all the support among the attendees.
Councilman McTaggart presented a public service announcement on the a -waste and
toxic waste roundup scheduled for May 15th He stated that he participated and found
it very successful. He also took a tour of Ocean Trails on May 19th to get some
additional engineering information on the water features. He spoke to the construction
manager and Vincent Stellio while he was there. He mentioned that later that day he
signed up for a couple of clinical trials at R.E.I., expressing support that R.E.I. stay
open.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro mentioned that she was honored to start the PV Marathon race
the previous Saturday. She stated that the race starts at Point Fermin in San Pedro
and comes through RPV along PV Drive South.
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She did a taping of RPV City Talk on the City's 30th Anniversary Celebration, and she
reminded everyone to save the dates of September 6th for a barbecue at City Hall and
October 17th for a dinner dance at the Los Verdes Country Club. She mentioned
attending a committee meeting and said Carolynn and Holly Starr are on the ball with
getting the plans done.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro also attended a Girl Scout Career Fair at Miraleste Intermediate
School where she spoke about what it's like to be an elected official.
Councilman Clark briefly mentioned that it appeared the Governor was supporting VLF
returning to the previous license fee rates. He said, if that happens and there's not a
gap in terms of the money coming to the cities, the budget the City has constructed
could be refined, prioritizing items for reconsideration. He explained this was good
news because the baseline budget was constructed presuming that VLF would not be
available.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro mentioned that she met with Carolynn on the items in the budget
for the City's grants. She said that in spite of the fact that there had been reductions,
matters would be coming back to the Council for further consideration.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Shirley Bender, Rancho Palos Verdes, as president of Las Condalistas thanked the
Council and Staff at City Hall for allowing the use of the City Hall site for their fund
raising event Walk on the Wild Side. She also extended thanks to Holly Starr from
Parks and Recreation for all her assistance and a very special thanks to Larry Stills and
Armando, from the Public Works Department. She said their help and hard work made
the City Hall grounds both beautiful and safe for all attending the gathering.
Joe Deeble, Rancho Palos Verdes, suggested that the City Council consider adopting a
fee structure for the boarding of horses similar to that of bed and breakfast
establishments. He recommended a fee of 25 percent per stall or $75.00, whichever is
greater, and an annual fee in the sum of $10,000. He said the money could then be
used to supplement Staff's work in regulating, inspecting, and mediating disputes in the
equestrian areas.
Lois Larue, Rancho Palos Verdes, thanked the City Council for keeping the public up to
date on their activities. She mentioned that she is in favor of the celebration of city's'
birthdays. She also suggested the Council reconsider their use of certain vendors for
things such as photocopying, automotive repair, etc., and focus more on using
merchants in RPV who might be able to offer'a cost saving on some of these smaller
items.
Councilman McTaggart responded that they reason for denying Lakewood's request for
their birthday celebration was because every city has one, plus they wanted $10,000
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from Contract Cities which everyone agreed is too expensive in the current economic
climate.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (CONTID.)
Rate Adjustments for Waste Management of Los Angeles for FY 03 -04. (1301)
City Clerk Purcell reported that notice of the public hearing had been duly published
and that no written protests had been received by the City.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro declared the public hearing open on this request for approval of
a rate increase of 1.2% for Waste Management of Los Angeles single - family customers
for FY 03 -04:
Councilman Clark moved, seconded by Councilmen McTaggart and Gardiner, to waive
reading of the staff report. Motion carried.
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced concern on the proposed increase in trash
collection fees and mentioned that it was her understanding that the $200 prize for the
recycling drawing reflected the cost of a year's worth of trash collection. She said her
cost was much higher and stated the prize should be the actual cost of a year's worth of
trash collection or the minutes be changed to reflect that.
Councilman McTaggart stated that the recycling prize is actually $250.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro suggested that the minutes reflect that a prize of $250 is given
for recycling.
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to approve the staff
recommendation: (1) Approve a rate increase of 1.2% for Waste Management of Los
Angeles single - family customers for FY 03 -04: (2) Approve a rate increase of 1.3% for
Waste Management of Los Angeles multi - family customers for FY 03 -04: (3) Close the
City trust account, turnover proceeds to Waste Management of Los Angeles, who in
turn will credit customers for the amount of FY 02 -03 overpayments; (4) Increase the
amount of Collector Fee paid by Waste Management of Los Angeles to the City by
$3,600 to reflect the rate increases; and, (5) Approve a change in the distribution of the
amount of City's Collector Fee among several City Funds. The motion carried on the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart, and Mayor Pro Tern Ferraro
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
Rate Adjustments for Ivy Rubbish disposal for FY 03 -04. (1301)
City Clerk Purcell reported that notice of the public hearing had been duly published
and that no written protests had been received by the City.
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Mayor Pro Tern Ferraro opened the public hearing on the matter of approving a rate
increase for Ivy Rubbish Disposal customers for the Fiscal Year 2003 -04.
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to waive the staff report.
Motion carried.
Councilman McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to close the hearing
and adopt Staff recommendation to (1) Approve a rate increase of 2.7% for Ivy Rubbish
Disposal customers for FY 03 -04; (2) Increase the amount of collector fee paid by Ivy
Rubbish Disposal to the City by $324 to reflect the rate increases; and, (3) Approve a
change in the distribution of the amount of City's collector fee among several City funds.
No objection being noted, the motion carried.
REGULAR BUSINESS:
Proposed Amendments to the Ocean Trails Project. (1411)
Deputy Planning Director Gregory Pfost presented the memorandum of May 20, 2003
and recommended that the City Council conditionally approve the proposed water
features at the Ocean Trails project.
Planner Pfost responded to Council members' concerns about the noise impacts that
might be generated by the waterfalls. He said some conditions had been added such
as regulating their use to daytime hours only and requiring the noise level not to exceed
65 decibels measured at the property lines of the golf course.
Planner Pfost clarified some inaccurate calculations on circle page 8 of the report,
saying in the last column identified as "additional water added per day" the numbers
should be changed as follows: 160 gallons not 16, 10 gallons instead of 1, and 200
gallons instead of 20.
He concluded by saying staff felt all issues related to the water features had been
addressed through the conditions of the project and that Staff's geologist, the Ocean
Trails geologist, and the Ocean Trails biological consultants were available to answer
any specific questions regarding geology or biology.
Councilman Clark requested an update on the status of the project.
Mr. Vincent Stellio, on behalf of the Trump organization, responded that the completion
of the repair of the slide area was approximately two to three weeks away, after which
the grading process would be initiated and the approved course holes would be put in.
He stated that by expediting approval of the water features, their designer could move
forward with the wall fabrication and engineering work could be completed. He
mentioned this would allow them to continue aggressively with the repair,
reconstruction, and additions simultaneously, adding that work had already begun on
the actual lake liners and everything should stay on or move ahead of schedule.
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Mayor pro tem Ferraro commented that not only are there monitoring wells but the
water usage is constantly monitored over the entire golf course. She noted that the
habitat acreage had actually increased rather than suffer a loss.
Mr. Stellio described the various monitoring systems in place. He noted that the
existing lakes had not been refilled since last October, using only drainage and rainfall
to replenish the evaporation, and added that strict controls on water levels would be
maintained. He explained that they had worked with their biologist and Fish and Game
to increase the habitats in certain areas, creating corridors and connecting sporadic
areas, adding that this enhanced the quality of the habitat not just the acreage.
Councilman McTaggart requested additional information on the clay caps and drains
being placed under the water features. He and Mayor pro tem Ferraro expressed
interest in seeing the actual design, and he mentioned that the building of the caps,
particularly the fact that polypropylene was being used rather than PVC, is extremely
important to the security of the features making the liners less permeable by water, less
affected by UV and chemicals, and far more desirable.
Mr. Stellio addressed some questions about the structural integrity of the liners by
assuring Council members that the commitment of the Trump organization is to build
safe, long- lasting features, using the best design, technology, and materials to achieve
those goals. He also described the filtration system being used, which relies on
constant water movement rather than the introduction of chemicals. He continued by
describing the lakes and waterfalls and outlining many of the project's esthetic
attributes.
Mr. Stellio spoke to concerns about security of the habitat areas by explaining that
design safeguards were being employed to limit access, adding that extra security
measures would be provided if necessary.
Diane Weinberger, Rancho Palos Verdes, as co president for the Sea View Home
Owner's Association, expressed strong support of the proposed improvements on
behalf of herself and the many residents she has spoken to. She voiced appreciation
for the sincerity and integrity of the people involved in this project and mentioned that
the ideas and suggestions being put forth by the Trump organization are a great
mechanism for keeping people in RPV as well as attracting new businesses and people
to the area who will benefit the community. She added that a project of these fine
standards will make an excellent addition and urged the Council to move forward with
their approval.
Tammy Longworth, Rancho Palos Verdes, complimented the Ocean Trails people on
their professionalism and responsiveness. She remarked that there is the feeling that
everyone associated with the project is dealing in good faith and that they have the
community interests as well as their own in mind. She concluded by stating that the
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project would be an asset to the entire community and urged the Council to support the
project.
Tim Burrell, Rancho Palos Verdes, as co president of Sea View Residents Association,
stated that he agrees with the Ocean Trails staff and supports their recommendations.
He outlined the precautions being taken to ensure the safety of the water features. He
also mentioned the financial benefit of having the Trump organization build the golf
course rather than contracting the work out. He spoke of the concept of progression --
when something else in the neighborhood that's really elegant uplifts property values.
He concluded by stating that having a world -class golf course in the community would
definitely be an asset.
Irwin Devereaux, Rancho Palos Verdes, concurred with the opinion that the project will
enhance the area tremendously. He mentioned Mr. Trump's good reputation and the
fact that since he has taken the project over things seem to be running smoothly. He
concluded by saying this is a plus for Rancho Palos Verdes.
Councilman Clark stated that the project appears to be on a timely course towards
success and based on the documentation, Staff recommendations, and the detailed
conditions, he supported conceptual approval.
Councilman Clark moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to support conceptual
approval of the project. The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart and Mayor Pro Tern Ferraro
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor pro tem Ferraro recessed the meeting at 11:00 P.M.
and reconvened the meeting at 11:10 P.M.
Expenditure Plan For The Community Development Block Grant Program. (601)
Director Allison provided the staff memorandum and made the following
recommendations: (1) place the Alta Mira Canyon Channel project on hold; (2)
authorize staff to request a proposal from GeoSyntec Consultants for a ground water
investigation in the Abalone Cove project area; (3) establish a new joint project with the
Abalone Cove Landslide Abatement District to develop three dewatering wells in the
Abalone Cove project area; (4) award an engineering contract to John Cruickshank Inc.,
in the amount of $6,400 for preliminary engineering services for the design of an
elevator at City hall, and authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to execute the contract;
and, (5) request staff to investigate the potential sale of excess Community
Development Block Grant Funds.
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Mayor pro tem Ferraro inquired why Council should sell the funds when they could be
used for things such as the City Hall elevator and assisting with ADA compliance. She
further inquired how much revenue return there would be if they were to be sold.
Director Allison responded that the value of Block Grant programs seemed to be
dropping as the Federal Government placed more and more restrictions on them but
estimated $0.50 to $0.60 on the dollar, which could then be used as general funds.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro and Councilman Gardiner said they would much rather have the
entire dollar to spend than a portion of it.
Councilman Gardiner queried whether the anticipated revenue from the sale of these
funds had been placed in the general fund stream of the budget Council had just
prepared. City Manager Evans stated that it was not part of the baseline budget.
Director Allison explained that Council had directed Staff to meet with ACLAD and the
geotech people to determine if a project could be created that would meet the funding
restrictions yet achieve the goal of reducing the amount of drainage into the Alta Mira
Canyon. For a number of reasons, they all recommended putting that project on hold.
He added that Alta Mira should never be funded with Block Grant money because
technical information is lacking. He stated that by considering a smaller project, the
goals might still be achieved; however, there are time constraints because the
construction must begin by March 2004.
Councilman McTaggart inquired about the dewatering wells that were discussed a few
years back.
Director Allison replied that by focusing too much attention on the Alta Mira project
others were not considered because there were no funding alternatives. He stated that,
if the project were put on hold, the dewatering wells would be Block Grant eligible and
would assist with water abatement in the Abalone Cove landslide area.
Councilman McTaggart expressed the opinion that the Alta Mira Canyon project is very
important because it reduces danger to residents and their homes.
Director Allison responded that the cost for the project is $1.3 million only $900,000 of
which is available. He added that attempts had been made to find additional
participation, but there was not enough support in the community to dedicate property
or assist with the cost differential.
City Manager Evans explained that the eligible projects are limited to ADA or the
redevelopment/landslide areas; for services, 20 percent is allocated to social programs
such as Reach. He stated that there is a limit on administrative money of 15 to 20
percent. He reiterated that doing a capital project allowed for more choices, but the
expenditures must be in an identified project area.
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Councilman Gardiner requested clarification on the acquisition of real property and
public facilities and improvements.
City Manager Evans responded that, again, these applied only to the target
redevelopment/landslide areas. He further explained that there is a long list of ADA
projects that could be considered.
Councilman Clark outlined the issues to be resolved:(1) should the City continue to
accumulate funds for Alta Mira; (2) should the City pursue an alternative project to Alta
Mira; (3) What ADA projects should be pursued; and, (4) should the City consider the
sale of excess CDBG Funds. He opined that the Mayor should be present to discuss
the undecided issues and that Staff should present some alternatives on ADA and Alta
Mira Canyon at the next meeting.
City Manager Evans suggested directing Staff to create a plan to provide rest rooms at
Del Cerro Park and Ocean Front Estates, adding it would involve the sale of some
CDBG Funds.
Mayor pro tem Ferraro urged moving forward to authorize the preliminary engineering
services for the elevator design.
Councilman McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner to authorize $6,400
for preliminary engineering services for the design of an elevator at City Hall; to
authorize preliminary engineering services for the design of rest rooms at Del Cerro
Park and Ocean Front Estates; the deletion of the Alta Mira Canyon project; and, to
direct Staff to provide a mini budget with the items Council deemed important for further
consideration.
The motion was carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart and Mayor Pro Tern Ferraro
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes suggested Staff consider installing a glass elevator on
the view side of the building in the new City Hall complex so people could enjoy the
scenery.
Lois Larue, Rancho Palos Verdes inquired about CDBG Funds and their allocation to
the Reach program.
Director Allison responded that each year a public hearing is held to consider
alternatives for the expenditures of program money and Reach rises to the top each
and every year.
City Manager Evans added that Reach is funded by private contributions and payments
by families of participants as well as CDBG Funds.
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Neighborhood Compatibility Committee Appointment. (1801)
Continued to June 3, 2003 Council meeting.
Various State Legislative Bills. (306)
Councilman Clark commented that he brought these various legislative bills before
Council because he thought they were meritorious and deserved support.
Mayor pro tern Ferraro and Councilman McTaggart agreed they would not support AB
1544 (Mail Ballot Elections) because it created the potential for election fraud.
Councilman Gardiner inquired why the Automobile Club was opposed to AB 872
(Speed Limits).
Councilman Clark commented that he no longer supports that bill.
Councilman McTaggart suggested supporting Lowenthal's Bill and requesting that he
propose and support a bill allowing cities to set additional fines in school zones.
Councilman Clark commented that Lowenthal's Bill is fundamentally a public safety
issue and deserves support.
Councilman Clark moved, seconded by Councilman McTaggart, to support Lowenthal's
Bill and to request that he consider sponsoring a bill providing flexibility for
municipalities to increase traffic fines for speeding in school districts; and, to remove AB
872 and AB 1544 from consideration. Motion carried.
Consider Supporting Los Angeles Air Force Base Modernization Effort. (306)
City Manager Evans briefly outlined the Staff Memorandum of May 20, 2003 and
recommended Council prepare a letter of support for the project.
Councilman Clark recused himself from being a signatory on the letter on advice of
counsel.
Councilman McTaggart moved, seconded by Mayor pro tern Ferraro, to send a letter of
support. Motion carried with Councilman Clark abstaining.
Ordinance No. 391 U: Weed Abatement Removal on York Property. (1405)
Director Rojas introduced the proposed measure by explaining a weed abatement
project was scheduled in an area of concern. He explained that the majority of the area
was not coastal sage scrub habitat but there are remnants and it is very close to known
occupied habitats. He stated the City had requested a biological report to ascertain if it
is occupied habitat. Since the intent of the property owner was to move forward with
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the clearing without providing the biological report requested, the City Attorney's
position was to give timely information to Council and request the adoption of an
urgency ordinance which would prohibit the removal of habitat and /or non habitat next
to habitat without submittal of a biological report along with certain exemptions like
emergencies, fire orders, and the usual exceptions.
In response to questions from Council members, Mr. Rojas responded that the
measure was drafted to address vacant parcels that exist in around and the preserve
area and would apply to all undeveloped lots greater than two acres.
Councilman McTaggart moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 391 U — AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS
VERDES RELATING TO CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT OF COASTAL SAGE
SCRUB HABITAT, ESTABLISHING REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES
APPLICABLE THERETO, AMENDING THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL
CODE AND DECLARING THE URGENCY THEREOF. The motion carried on the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, McTaggart and Mayor Pro Tern Ferraro
NOES: None
ABSENT: Mayor Stern
ADJOURNMENT
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