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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
JUNE 21, 2005
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. by Mayor Clark at Fred Hesse Community
Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, Rancho Palos Verdes, and was immediately
recessed to closed session. Mayor Clark reconvened the regular session at 7:13 p.m.
Roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Stern, Long, Wolowicz, Gardiner, Clark
Also present were City Manager Evans; Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru; City
Attorney Lynch; Director of Finance McLean; Director of Planning, Building and Code
Enforcement Rojas; Director of Public Works Allison; Accounting Manager Downs;
Senior Engineer Dragoo; Senior Administrative Analyst Gyves; Assistant City Attorney
Harris; Assistant to the City Manager Park; and, Minutes Reporter Presutti.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led jointly by Planning Commissioner Bill Gerstner and
Finance Advisory Committee Member Bob Nelson.
MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Clark shared with the audience that he had received two pieces of
correspondence: a letter from Los Angeles City Councilwoman Janice Hahn thanking
the City for its participation in the Western Avenue Task Force; and, a letter from Dr.
Godfrey Pernell, the Mayor of the City of Rolling Hills, pledging his City's 2002
Resource Bond Act Per Capita Fund for the Portuguese Bend Open Space Project,
allocating an additional $5,199 to its previously donated funds.
Mayor Clark presented that evening's Did You Know Fact on the topic of fireworks
safety during for the upcoming 4th of July activities. At the request of Mayor Clark,
Assistant Fire Chief Glonchak and Lomita Sheriff's Station Captain Zuanich made brief
statements on the precautions being taken by their respective departments to respond
to the Fourth of July holiday and what citizens could do to celebrate responsibly.
RECYCLE DRAWING:
Mayor Clark announced Joseph Brady as Recycler of the Month and encouraged the
City's residents to continue their recycling efforts.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised Council that late correspondence had
been received on Item No. 22, Status Report Regarding Construction Issues at 2 Yacht
Harbor Drive, along with a request to speak to this item from the author of the
correspondence.
In light of the lengthy agenda and the number of people in attendance, Mayor Pro Tern
Wolowicz proposed completing items 1 through 14, along with the City Council Oral
Reports and the Closed Session Report during the current session, at that evening's
meeting, ending that evening's meeting by 11:00 p.m., and then taking up the
remaining items 15 through 22 on the following evening starting at 7:00 p.m.
Mayor Clark suggested indulging this request, indicating it appeared likely that there
was perhaps seven to nine hours worth of agenda items and that it was imprudent for
the public, City staff, and Council to attempt to accomplish the City's business by
working into the early hours of the morning.
Councilman Long recommended that Council proceed through the meeting as quickly
possible and see how far the meeting could progress by 11:30 p.m., indicating that it
would present a great difficulty for many to rearrange their schedules to accommodate
a second meeting on such short notice.
Councilman Stern concurred, saying he would be unavailable the following evening.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Long, to approve the Agenda.
Without objection, Mayor Clark so ordered, with the caveat that the Council would
consider the remaining items at the 9:30 p.m. Pause to Consider Remainder of the
Agenda.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Tina Bothamley, Rancho Palos Verdes, read a short press release from the Pentagon
regarding the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA). She proudly
announced that of the 40 teams selected to advance to the semifinals, including
universities, individuals, and corporations from 16 states and Canada, Palos Verdes
High School qualified for the second year in a row to compete in the DARPA Ground
Challenge. She expressed appreciation to the community for their support during the
past year, saying that she was looking forward to keeping everyone apprised of how the
students were doing throughout the competition.
Lois Larue, Rancho Palos Verdes, reported that she has noticed several people
congregating near a gate leading into the Portuguese Bend landslide area, saying she
believes the Palos Verdes Land Conservancy was opening the gate and encouraging
people to ride their horses in the area.
Barbara Sattler, Rancho Palos Verdes, followed up on an e-mail she submitted
regarding CEQA review and biological consultations, by urging Council to consider
adopting a policy which put the City in charge of all such reviews and reports rather
than first being filtered through the project applicants.
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CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
None.
OLD BUSINESS:
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised the audience that items previously
discussed and continued to a future meeting could be found on the City's website at
www.palosverdes.com/
NEW BUSINESS:
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised Council that late correspondence and
a request to speak had been received regarding Item No. 2, Approval of the March 15,
2005 Minutes.
Mayor Clark called for the speaker on Item No. 2.
Bob Mucha, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that Council's December 4, 2004 motion
regarding the Forrestal Management Plan, which was subsequently approved on March
11 2005, contained the only trail use changes authorized by Council and should have
been incorporated into the Forrestal Management Plan to effectuate Council's direction.
He reported that upon review of the Forrestal Management Plan, he found six
unauthorized changes in the text and map, saying that if those changes reflected a
correction to the previous motion, that motion should be amended in the public record
to provide a baseline in the event the Plan was further reviewed and /or revised.
Councilman Long noted that Mr. Mucha's comments refer to an item not actually on that
evening's agenda, saying that the purpose of addressing the minutes was merely to
ascertain if they accurately reflected what was said and done, not to change them to
reflect what might have been said or done better. He requested that staff respond to
the matter as a non - agenda item.
Director Rojas indicated that Council approved the Forrestal Management Plan and the
trails map at the March 1, 2005 meeting, saying that a discrepancy was noted at that
time between the trails map and the December 4, 2004 minutes. He stated that Council
directed staff to review the December 4th minutes to ensure that they accurately
reflected the approved trails ma P , and noted that staff would be bringing back an
amendment to the December 4 minutes to Council in the near future in conjunction
with several other items related to the Forrestal Preserve.
Motion to Waive Full Reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this meeting
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with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all Council Members after
the reading of the title.
Approval of the Minutes (301)
Approved the Minutes of March 15, 2005 and April 5, 2005.
Repair of the Tarapaca Storm Drain (604 x 1204)
Reviewed and reconfirmed by a four /fifths (4/5) vote, the Council's previous action on
December 21, 2004 to authorize staff to conduct an informal bid process to repair the
Tarapaca Storm Drain.
Rescind Award of Three Non - Exclusive Commercial Refuse Collection and
Disposal Services Annual Agreements for 2005 (1301)
Rescinded approval of non - exclusive commercial refuse collection and disposal
services agreements that were awarded for the year 2005 to: Avel Roll Off, Art's Special
Waste, Inc. and Ace Roll Off Rubbish Service, Inc.
Amendment to the Agreement for Legal Services — Richards, Watson &Gershon
(103)
Approved the Amendment to Legal Services Agreement with Richards, Watson &
Gershon.
Amendment to the City Manager's Employment Agreement (I 101)
Approved the sixth amendment to the City Manager's employment agreement.
Notice of Completion for the City Hall Elevator Project (1201 x 1204)
1) Accepted the work as complete; 2) Authorized the City Clerk to file a Notice of
Completion with the County Recorder; and if no claims are filed within 35 days after
recordation, and upon the contractor posting an acceptable warranty bond, notice the
surety company to exonerate the payment and Performance bonds; and, 3) Authorized
the Director of Public Works to release the 10% retention payment, to 2H Construction,
Inc., 35 days after recordation of the Notice of Completion by the County Recorder
contingent upon no claims being filed on the project, and the contractor posting an
acceptable warranty bond.
Amendment of Existing Contract for Building and Safety Services (1203)
Approved the amended Services Agreement with Charles Abbott Associates (CAA) that
eliminated the services of a City Building Official, included the issuance of additional
permits into the scope of work, and extended the term of the contract an additional 2
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years to June 30, 2007.
Adoption of California Electrical Code (201)
INTRODUCED ORDINANCE NO. 4221 "AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO
PALOS VERDES ADOPTING BY REFERENCE PART 3 OF TITLE 24 OF THE
CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS, COMPRISING THE 2004 CALIFORNIA
ELECTRICAL CODE AND AMENDING THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL
CODE."
Purchase of Tax Defaulted Property (602 x 1101)
Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to sign an Agreement to Purchase Tax - Defaulted
Property for a 0.17 -acre vacant parcel located at the end of East Crest Road, adjacent
to the federal radar dome facility at San Pedro Hill.
City Maintenance Contract Extensions (1204)
Approved a one -year extension for FY 05 — 06 to Bell Building Maintenance for Building
Maintenance, Bennett Landscape for Median Maintenance, TruGreen Landcare for
Roadside Maintenance, and TruGreen Landcare for Park and Trails Maintenance.
Reso. No. 2005 -67: Register of Demands
ADOPTED RESOL. NO. 2005 -67, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS
AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to approve the Consent
Calendar.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Long, Wolowicz, Gardiner, Stern, Clark
NOES: None
ABSTENTIONS: Councilman Gardiner abstained on both sets of minutes.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Reso. No. 2005 -68: Citywide Landscaping and Lighting Maintenance District (901)
Director Allison made a brief presentation of the staff report.
City Manager Evans advised Council that this item represented the long- discussed fund
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balance in the City's 1911 Act Assessment District of approximately $900,000, saying
that Council had directed staff to try to find a way to return the money and indicated that
this hearing represented the first step in getting that money back to the taxpayers.
Mayor Clark declared the Public Hearing open.
Councilman Stern explained that the issue originated as an attempt to identify a
mechanism for the City to lawfully refund money that had sat dormant in an account for
quite some time. He noted that there were many constraints on returning the funds, but
that the staff recommendation appeared to. be the legal means to achieve that goal.
City Attorney Lynch clarified that the City cannot actually refund the money but can
allocate the funds to appropriate expenditures or provide a credit against the annual
assessment.
Councilman Long advised that the genesis of this matter actually came about through
Mayor Pro Tem Wolowicz's carefully scrutiny of the City budget and other financial
reports, saying that a mechanism had finally been discovered to release those funds.
Mayor Pro Tem Wolowicz commented that while he may have identified the funds, it
was Councilman Long's diligence and persistence that brought the matter to this point.
Mayor Clark closed the Public Hearing.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Long, to 1) Request staff to modify
the Engineer's Report prepared for the Citywide Landscaping and Lighting Maintenance
District for fiscal year 2005 -2006 to utilize a portion of the existing fund balance to
maintain citywide traffic signals and safety lighting and thereby reduce the amount of
the assessment that is levied against properties in the city for this cost; 2) Conduct a
public hearing on the proposed levy and collection of assessments within the Citywide
Landscaping and Lighting Maintenance District for fiscal year 2005 -2006 and the
Engineer's Report as modified in accordance with No. 1 above; and, 3) ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -689 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES MODIFYING THE ENGINEER'S REPORT, MAKING
CERTAIN FINDINGS, AND CONFIRMING A DIAGRAM AND ASSESSMENT FOR THE
2005 -06 FISCAL YEAR IN CONNECTION WITH THE CITYWIDE LANDSCAPING
AND LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICT PURSUANT TO THE LANDSCAPING
AND LIGHTING MAINTENANCE ACT OF 1972, PART 2 OF DIVISION 15 OF THE
CALIFORNIA STREETS AND HIGHWAYS CODE.
The motion passed on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Gardiner, Wolowicz, Long, Stern, Clark
NOES: None
Reso. Nos. 2005 -69 and 2005 -70: Proposed Storm Drain User Fee (602 x 604)
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Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised Council that late correspondence on
the item had been previously distributed.
City Manager Evans provided the staff report with the assistance of a PowerPoint
presentation.
Mayor Clark reported that the City had used a comprehensive team of expert
consultants, in conjunction with the Finance Advisory Committee (FAC) and City staff,
to determine the proposed approach to financing the City's infrastructure renewal
program. He requested that Director McLean introduce the team who worked so
diligently on this project.
Director McLean introduced the City's consulting team: Consulting Engineer Joan Cox,
of Harris and Associates; Financial Advisor Jim Fabian, of Fieldman and Rolapp; City
staff members: Accounting Manager Kathryn Downs; Senior Administrative Analyst
Gary Gyves; Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Senior Engineer Ron Dragoo;
Assistant City Attorney Robin Harris, of Richards, Watson & Gershon; City Attorney
Carol Lynch; and, City Manager Les Evans; and, expressed his gratitude to Bob
Nelson, Gina McCloud, Becky Clark, and the other members of the FAC.
Mayor Clark, noting this particular item had a fairly uniquely structured Public Hearing
process, advised that the first matter of business would be the adoption of the
corresponding resolution.
City Attorney Lynch indicated that Council had previously directed staff to maintain as
much privacy as possible during the mailed ballot election process, saying that the City
Clerk had retained all protests as confidential items pursuant to that direction and they
would now become matters of public record upon commencement of the Public
Hearing.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz, to 1) ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -69; A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES AMENDING PROCEDURES IN CONNECTION WITH
A PROPOSED ANNUAL STORM DRAIN USER FEE.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Stern, Long, Gardiner, Wolowicz, Clark
NOES: None
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru reported that 12,492 notices were mailed to
affected property owners on May 6, 2005 in addition to notice being duly published on
June 4, 2005 and that a total of 55 written protests had been received to date.
Councilman Gardiner queried how many written protests would be required to change
Council's direction.
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Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru responded that 6,246 plus one would be
required.
Councilman Gardiner commented that in speaking to residents in the community most
believed attempting to overturn Council's direction would be a hopeless endeavor since
it would be nearly impossible to accumulate enough written protests. He declared that
he remained unconvinced that this method accurately reflects popular opinion on the
subject.
Councilman Long questioned how protests were segregated from appeals.
City Attorney Lynch advised that any use of the word "protest" or anything received in
writing appearing to challenge the process was counted as a protest even if appeal
language was also included.
Councilman Gardiner inquired what percentage of residents was not being asked to pay
the user fee.
City Manager Evans answered approximately 20 percent.
Councilman Gardiner, noting that there was some question about whether the School
District would have to pay the user fee, asked if that matter had been resolved.
City Attorney Lynch advised Council that the Government Code contained a provision
indicating that school districts could only be required to pay a fee if they agreed to do
so, saying that, while the City can send notice requesting them to pay the fee, unless
the school district agreed, the City had no legal ability to compel payment.
Councilman Gardiner queried if the information provided by the Howard Jarvis
Taxpayers' Association citing a California Supreme Court case decision that required
the school district to pay had been taken into account.
City Attorney Lynch answered that the legislature adopted Government Code Section
5499.3 in response to that case to clarify that municipalities did not have the ability to
impose fees on school districts, reiterating that there was a provision in the law
indicating that the school district must agree to pay the fee instead.
Councilman Gardiner questioned the accuracy of the estimated yearly revenue to be
derived from the user fee, given the discretion of certain entities to pay or not.
Director McLean answered that staff had made it clear in each presentation and staff
report that the City's ability to collect fees from the school district and certain other
agencies remained questionable.
Mayor Clark requested an explanation of why 20 percent of the City's residents would
not be required to pay the user fee.
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City Manager Evans explained that many of the storm drains in the City emptied into a
backbone system owned by the County of Los Angeles. He noted that a property
owner living in an area that did not drain into a City -owned facility would not required to
pay the fee, saying that the fee would only be required of those making use of the City's
drainage system.
Councilman Long advised that he was one such property owner whose property did not
drain into the City's system and, as such, would not be required to pay the fee. He
noted that those residents who nonetheless wished to contribute to the program could
do so, as he had, and donate $86 directly to the City's Enterprise Fund, saying that he
was recently informed that another civic - minded member of the City had also
contributed for her properties. He encouraged other residents whose properties could
not be assessed to make their contributions as well.
Councilman Stern, noting that the process being embarked upon was dictated by
Proposition 218, inquired if the City had any ability to include and charge those
residents who did not drain into one of the City's storm drains.
City Attorney Lynch answered that the City did not have that authority because those
residents were not being provided a direct benefit or service from the proposed user
fee.
City Manager Evans further noted that because they were not using a City facility, these
residents could not be charged the fee.
Councilman Stern stated that Proposition 218 also mandated that only those property
owners who ultimately would be required to pay the fee were allowed to vote on the
matter. He reported that the proposed ordinance contained language requiring that
each fiscal year commencing in 2007 the City Council will conduct a public hearing and
determine whether to collect the storm drain user fee for the upcoming year and, if so,
the rate, taking into account the current and projected revenues of the City, including
but not limited to property, sales, and transient occupancy taxes. He stated this was a
critical component of the proposed user fee because it meant that every year during a
publicly noticed meeting Council would have to decide, based on the state of events at
that time, whether to maintain the fee, reduce it, increase it a maximum of two percent,
or repeal it altogether.
Mayor Clark remarked that within the City there were communities with private streets
and storm drains. He inquired whether property owners would be subject to the user
fee if their private facilities drained into a City -owned facility.
City Manager Evans answered that these properties were using the City's facilities if
their private facilities drained into a City -owned facility and, therefore, would be subject
to the user fee.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz noted that a number of people had responded in support of
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the proposal, saying that he was surprised to learn that those in favor outnumbered
those opposed by two to one. He commented that some of those residents who voiced
no opposition did, however, request a recalculation of their fee, saying that those
revisions appeared to be related to the size of the parcels.
Director McLean explained that shortly after the notices were mailed out, several
residents with larger parcels informed staff that they believed the calculation overstated
their impervious coverage and consequently their user fee, saying that staff- responded
by performing an actual calculation of the impervious percentages for residential
parcels over three quarters of an acre and, based on those calculations, the fees on
280 parcels were reduced. He noted that every residential parcel in excess of three
acres in addition to the approximately 125 non - residential parcels had already
undergone an actual calculation of their impervious percentage.
Mayor Clark asked how confident staff was in the sampling process used to calculate
the user fees and impervious factors for smaller properties in light of the results of the
actual impervious calculations performed on the larger properties.
Joan Cox indicated that sub - consultants were hired to examine the sampling for those
impervious percentages, saying that approximately 1,000 out of 10,000 residential
properties were sampled and a recommendation was provided on how to stratify them
based on area and median counts. She advised Council that the ranges were fairly
wide due to the large variety of property sizes encountered but noted that staff believed
the sampling was statistically accurate and far more precise than the data included in
the L.A. County Public Works' Hydrology Manual. She further explained that because
median calculations were used, 50 percent of the properties would be higher and 50
percent lower, saying that this was simply the nature of median calculations.
Councilman Stern inquired if staff had a sense of how close the deviation was from the
median in each category, noting the fee per Equivalent Residential Unit (ERU) was
roughly $86 and asked if the tendency was to go from 100 down to 70.
Joan Cox reported that staff could not make such a determination without examining
each individual parcel.
Councilman Gardiner remarked that he was aware of an individual who complained
about a $200 calculation, which was subsequently revised down to $68. He cautioned
that care should be taken when using the word "median" in place of the word "mean,"
saying that there could be a considerable variance in the results of each statistical
methodology.
Ms. Cox concurred.
Councilman Gardiner commented that according to the Howard Jarvis group, the
burden of the current number was on the City rather than the residents and inquired if
staff was confident that the City had satisfied that burden.
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City Attorney Lynch responded that no methodology was going to be perfect, saying
that the City's consulting team provided a system which staff believed was acceptable,
especially given the fact that there was an appeal mechanism built in to allow property
owners to point out suspected errors so that the City could make the appropriate
corrections, if necessary, and adjust the fees accordingly.
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor Clark recessed the meeting at 8:50 p.m. and
reconvened the meeting at 9:04 p.m.
Mayor Clark declared the Public Hearing open.
Ken Dom, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced support of the storm drain user fee, saying
that it was the most equitable method because it was based on a property's contribution
to runoff; the revenues from the fee were restricted to a specific use and could not be
diverted unlike a parcel tax which went into the City's General Fund; the fee was limited
to a two percent per year maximum increase after a public hearing was conducted; the
fee could be reduced if projected expenditures were lower or additional revenue
became available;, the dedicated funds would allow the City to borrow money cost
effectively for projects that exceeded available revenue; and, there was an automatic
sunset of the user fee upon completion of the program. He concluded by stating that
no formula was perfect but rather perfection was a pursuit that would go on forever
while the problem continued to worsen.
John McTagg_art, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in favor of a parcel tax, saying that
everyone used the roads so everyone should be required to pay to repair the City's
storm drain system. He suggested waiting three to five years when revenue from other
projects would begin to filter into the City, saying that no consideration had been given
to the income that would be generated by the Long Point resort hotel and the Ocean
Trails golf course. He stated that by implementing a parcel tax at that point additional
revenue would be available and not as much parcel tax money would be required to
meet the projected costs. He noted that roads were the single largest component in the
flood control plan, saying that by exempting some properties when all residents use the
roads placed an unfair burden on those required to pay. He remarked that Council had
spent an excessive amount of money on programs to market the user fee, saying that
those residents who were not allowed to vote on this and objected to the large amount
of money being spent on this type of "education" had no recourse except in casting their
votes for Council members in November and were disenfranchised in the meantime.
He declared that because there was no reasonable sunset on the fee, every property
owner in the project area would be saddled with all the expense and had absolutely no
recourse. He questioned whom the exempted residents would turn to when their storm
drains fail and opined that the formula used to calculate the fee inherently made no
sense. He proclaimed that the storm drain user fee was essentially a tax and was
unfair to most of the City's residents.
Jon Cartwright, Rancho Palos Verdes, speaking on behalf of the RPV Council of
Homeowners Associations (CHOA) as its President, commended Council for tackling
the City's deteriorating storm drain system, saying that CHOA was pleased a process
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had been undertaken which would allow property owners to vote on a proposed user
fee to help repair and maintain that system. He advised Council, however, that when a
show of support was requested at a recent meeting to recommend that Council
continue this process, not a single hand was raised, noting that the major concerns
were lack of a sunset clause, which made the fee unacceptable to most CHOA
members; difficulty understanding how the fee estimates were calculated; and,
questions regarding the accuracy of those estimates. He stated that the consensus
was that there was a definite need to move forward and repair the infrastructure but not
with an open -ended fee in perpetuity. He requested that Council reconsider the issue
of a sunset clause, suggesting a five -year sunset with an option for renewal by the
voters, saying that, if it was impractical because it would eliminate the City's ability to
borrow, providing a sunset provision at the 10th, 15th, or 20th year. He stated that CHOA
believed a sunset clause would give the voters a voice in designing the program,
making make it more palatable to the residents. Addressing the complexity of the fee
calculations, he suggested that including a diagram showing how the fee was
calculated would make it easier to understand. He concluded by urging Council to
adopt CHOA's recommendations of establishing a sunset clause and simplifying the fee
presentation so residents could better comprehend the process and have a better
assurance that the fees were fair and accurate.
Jack Downhill, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that he supported repairing the City's
storm drains. He opined that because everyone in the City would ultimately benefit,
directly or indirectly, all should be required to pay an equitable share, noting that
whether one resided in a condominium or a mansion, everyone enjoyed the benefit of
not having sinkholes, flooding and mud flows. He opposed the user fee because only
80 percent of the City's property owners would be taxed; the tax would be in perpetuity;
and, even after revisions, the fee calculations did not accurately represent the amount
of runoff contributed since the impervious percentages did not account for gutters and
downspouts nor whether the property was up or down sloped. He asserted that streets,
rather than individual properties, comprised the greatest percentage of impervious area
in the City, saying that it was probable that streets accumulated more than half of the
storm drain water. He objected to the money spent to "define, spin, and sell" this item,
saying that those funds certainly could have been put to better use. In conclusion, he
stated that he would place infrastructure behind only police and fire as a priority item,
saying that, if the City had reserves funds, they should be used for this purpose.
Ernest Strauss, Rancho Palos Verdes, reminded Council that Proposition 13 was
adopted by an overwhelming vote of the general public many years ago, saying that
since then it was being chipped away bit by bit and property taxes had gradually been
increasing for one reason or another. He agreed that the infrastructure needed repair
but asserted that the current proposal placed a great burden on many senior citizens in
the community. He strongly urged Council to either call for a general election or involve
all property owners in the City because everyone would benefit and be affected by it to
some degree.
Becky Clark, Rancho Palos Verdes, current Vice -Chair and former Chair of the FAC,
reported that it had taken three - and -a -half long years and over 50 public meetings to
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bring the issue to this point. She urged Council to proceed with the storm drain user
fee mailed ballot and adopt the resolution. She advised that two- and -a -half to three
years earlier, the first iteration of the financing alternatives matrix was presented to
Council, saying that many reiterations of that matrix had been developed since that time
and the team had explored every financing alternative. She opined that the current
proposal was the most equitable way to proceed. In response to comments about a
sunset clause, she stated that she would be willing to support such a provision if it were
30 years in duration. She indicated that five years was not workable for a variety of
reasons, saying that it was very difficult to plan five years of capital improvement
projects; projects would be completed in only one portion of the City; and, if another
emergency such as San Ramon Canyon or Tarapaca Canyon were to occur, the City
would be unable to effectively borrow against a fee with a five -year sunset. She
advised Council that storm drain improvements were an extremely important issue
statewide, noting that ACA -13, a bill pending at that time before the legislature, would
take storm drain user fees out of the procedural steps under which they were currently
governed and place them in the same category as sewer and water fees. She indicated
that the bill was designed in response to the huge problem of pollution control and
storm drains within the State and was expected to pass fairly easily, saying that this
could dramatically change the process, making it akin to Council's implementing a
storm drain user fee immediately after this hearing if no majority protest were received.
Carol Sefchek, Rancho Palos Verdes, indicated that she agreed with the need for storm
drain repairs but disagreed with the source of money to pay for it. She noted that 2,800
people did not receive a notice because their properties did not utilize the City's storm
drain system and would not be asked to pay, saying that according to that same
argument, she should be excluded from paying the school fees because she had no
children. She opined that as public servants Council had refrained from using the word
"tax," but that was essentially what the user fee was -- a tax. She displayed a tea bag
as a historically American symbol of protesting wrongful taxation.
Beverly Ackerson, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced support for repairing the storm drains
but objected to the user fee having no sunset provision, saying that she believed a
sunset was necessary to allow public review of the program as it moved forward. She
opined that requiring only certain people to pay the fee would cause friction among
RPV's residents and would divide a community that had always worked together. She
queried why revenues from the golf course and hotel projects were not being
considered to fund some of the expense and suggested that a mail ballot might not be
a good idea because there was always the risk of receiving the mail too late to be
counted. She concluded by urging more study of the entire process, saying she was
not convinced the user fee was the best method in the long run but at least it should be
further explored and fine tuned rather than going to a vote at the current time.
Ian MacDonald, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated he and his wife did not object to the
storm drain user fee, but did take issue with the way the fee was being assessed for
their property. He indicated that he was not aware he needed to submit a written
objection, saying that he would put it in writing forthwith.
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City Attorney Lynch indicated that Mr. MacDonald could submit his objection on a
speaker slip, saying it could then be counted that evening as a written protest.
Ken DeLong, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in favor of the storm drain project, saying
that he had great confidence that Director Allison and his staff had developed a
reasonable program for maintaining the City's storm drains. He noted, however, his
opposition to the user fee as presently constructed. He asserted the matter should
have received much higher priority, saying that storm drains were a need not merely a
want; that the issue had been known about for quite some time; and, that after police
and fire, infrastructure should be the City's next priority. He faulted various Councils for
funding needs rather than wants in the past, saying that he understood the annual
funding for the Point Vicente Interpretive Center would be around $250,000. He
inquired whether it might be more appropriate to find a different funding source for the
PVIC, saying that, while it was nice, he wondered how many citizens would prefer that
the money be spent on storm drains instead. He made the same observation regarding
the money Council had spent on the acquisition of the Portuguese Bend Nature
Preserve.
Bob Nelson, Rancho Palos Verdes, introduced himself as a FAC member and advised
Council that the FAC had voted unanimously to move forward with the storm drain user
fee as proposed, noting that he personally favored a higher fee because this was a
crucial problem which needed to be addressed promptly. He asserted that the current
proposal provided the most equitable method of fee calculation and noted there was a
sunset in the form of the annual City Council meeting on the matter.
Charlie Shriver, Rancho Palos Verdes, agreed that timely maintenance and repair of
the storm drains was a necessity and that the cost should be equitably shared by the
City's residents, however he believed that the proposed method was not fair nor logical.
He reminded Council that the Portuguese Bend community currently paid for
maintenance and repair of its roads and canyons which served as their storm drains,
noting that the dewatering wells, for which they also paid, dramatically reduced the
damage to Palos Verdes Drive South by greatly slowing the landslide thereby saving
the City a substantial amount of money for additional road repair. He stated that the
assumption that unimproved parcels did not contribute storm water runoff was
erroneous; indicating that during heavy rainfall runoff from large parcels of undeveloped
land flowed onto his driveway, through his property, and into Alta Mira Canyon carrying
with it his gravel pads and garden vegetation. He noted that residents including
homeowners, renters, and owners of vacant land all enjoy the use of the City's roads
and storm drain infrastructure to a more or less equal extent. He opined that the fee
should not be based on the size of one's house and the impervious area of their
property, saying that if vacant land was exempt, vacant land surrounding a house
should also be exempt.
Tim Kelly, Rancho Palos Verdes, noted that many of his comments had already been
addressed, saying that there definitely appeared to be a trend in those remarks
concerning the equity of the user fee and the issue of a sunset. He questioned what
impact the approximately 280 appeals already received were going to have on the
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average if the fees for those parcels were reduced, saying that all the City's residents
should equally pay no more than absolutely necessary and that a sunset clause should
be included.
Jim Moore, Rancho Palos Verdes, speaking on behalf of the Pacific View HOA,
commented that, although the City had been discussing this issue for approximately
four years, only about 10 percent of their HOA members were aware of it and many did
not understand the basic fundamentals. He reported that most of those people
believed there was a problem that needed to be fixed, saying that the underlying
question remained as how to accomplish it in a fair and equitable manner. He advised
Council that their membership of 384 homes firmly would not support the user fee
without a sunset clause. He indicated that the argument that not having a sunset would
cause a problem in the event the City needed to borrow funds was questionable
because many citizens did not agree that borrowing was prudent in the first place. He
urged Council to move forward to fix the problem but to include a sunset clause and
implement a uniform and simple fee.
Barry Anderson, Rancho Palos Verdes, commended Council, staff, and everyone else
involved for doing a remarkable job in addressing a major problem. He opined that
those opposed to the user fee are taking a rather simplistic view of what it had taken to
arrive at this point. He disagreed that any subterfuge or "spin" was employed to cloud
or shade the issue and urged his fellow citizens to vote in favor of the issue, saying that
the storm drains needed repair and the assessments were really not that onerous.
Kay Finer, President of the Palos Verdes Peninsula Chamber of Commerce, speaking
on their behalf, voiced support for the proposed RPV Water Quality and Flood
Protection Program. She declared that continued storm drain failures had the potential
to negatively impact the business community, noting the cost of preventive work would
be significantly less for everyone than having to perform work under emergency
conditions. She urged Council to work with business owners to reduce the fees as
much as equitably possible.
William Nickel, Rancho Palos Verdes, expressed confusion over two seemingly
contradictory statements: that all homeowners whose property drained into a City -
maintained storm drain would be charged a user fee and, if the property did not, no fee
would be assessed. He advised Council that Rockinghorse Road was located on a
ridge between two canyons and, while he was not aware of any City - maintained storm
drains within their homeowners association, 159 homes in that association received
notice of the proposed user fees. He reminded Council that Rockinghorse Road was a
private street and statements made at a Community Leaders' Breakfast earlier that year
indicated that the City would not maintain private roads. He stated that he recognized
the benefit everyone received from adequate storm drains throughout the City but did
not believe that their community should be charged if there were no drains that would
not be maintained by the City in their neighborhood.
With no further speakers wishing to comment, Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru
reported that 3 additional written protests had been received during the hearing,
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bringing the total to 58.
Mayor Clark reminded all property owners that this represented the final occasion to
submit a written protest, saying that anyone wishing to do so should take advantage of
this opportunity prior to the final tabulation.
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor Clark recessed the meeting at 10:02 p.m. and
reconvened the meeting at 10:12 p.m.
Mayor Clark closed the Public Hearing and advised that one additional written protest
was received during the break, bringing the total number to 59. He turned the matter
over to Council for discussion.
Councilman Stern thanked everyone who spoke and submitted correspondence on the
item, saying that he appreciated the input. He reported that staff realized there was a
problem with the City's storm drains approximately a decade earlier, saying that there
appeared to be unanimous agreement there was a problem that needed to be fixed but
there was concern about how best to finance this critical necessity. He remarked that
during his tenure on Council there had been sinkholes, canyon failures, mudslides and
flooded homes. He advised the audience that the repair to San Ramon Canyon cost
$3.4 million with $2.7 million coming out of the City's reserves, and that work was still
being done to correct the sinkholes on Western Avenue although it appeared that the
City would not have to bear the entire financial burden. He asserted that the proposal
was a good and equitable program into which a soft sunset had been already been
included in the form of a requirement that the City Council examine the fee every year,
evaluate the remaining need for repairs and the revenue streams available at that time,
and then make a determination whether to retain the fee at its current level, increase it
consistent with the two percent Proposition 13 maximum, reduce it, or repeal it. He
remarked that he was sensitive to the fact that many people mistrust elected officials,
stating for that reason he would be willing to propose a 30 -year sunset.
Councilman Stern explained that a parcel tax would be substantially less equitable,
saying that this type of tax was extremely regressive and posed serious concerns for
homeowners because an equal amount was assessed on each parcel regardless of its
value or use. In response to criticisms about the user fee compared with a parcel tax,
he indicated that Proposition 218 dictated that a user fee must be allocated by benefit
and that only those being asked to pay the fee be allowed to vote on it. He stated that,
while there was a logical argument for every major issue being decided by the
registered voters in the City, it seemed far more equitable to put this vote only to those
who would ultimately be required to pay for it. He observed that everyone had seen
the results of ignoring this need, saying that pipes did not rust through as a result of one
rainy season but were a long -term consequence of deferred maintenance and that the
problem would continue to worsen if not addressed. He stated that when staff brought
forward plans to address the storm drain deficiencies and the associated costs, Council
opted not to include Priority 3 projects and to lengthen the duration of the program to 30
years in order to complete those projects deemed most necessary, while attempting to
balance the cash flow and reduce the burden on the City's residents. He reported that
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the most pressing needs appeared to be on the east and south sides of the City, saying
that, if the 30 -year period was shortened, the practical impact would be that residents
citywide would be paying for something that would benefit relatively limited areas. He
explained that, in order to attack the problem in a meaningful and equitable manner, a
sufficient period of time was necessary to address all the identified projects.
Councilman Stern indicated that another attribute of having a sufficiently long program
was that a dedicated income stream with an adequate timeline would allow the City to
borrow at exceedingly low rates in the event of an emergency. He maintained that
significant inefficiencies would be created if the period were shortened, especially to
some of the time frames suggested by the public speakers that evening, because it
would be extremely difficult if not impossible to complete all the necessary projects
within those time frames. He followed up on the recommendation to utilize future hotel
revenue as the funding source for this program by reminding Council that the first
entitlement for the Long Point project was granted in the early `90's, but times turned
bad and that hotel project was never built. He noted that, while everyone was
extremely optimistic about the current entitlement on the property, the bottom line was
that the City would probably not receive any revenue from this project for many years to
come. He further remarked that the resort hotel industry was exceedingly volatile and
was likely to provide a revenue stream that would fluctuate from year to year.
Councilman Stern concluded his remarks by saying that, if the City was to embark on
this critical capital improvement program, he did not believe gambling on the volatility of
Transient Occupancy Tax revenues would get the job done. He reminded Council that
General fund revenue could be spent on anything this or any subsequent Council
chose, but a user fee restricted the money to a very specific purpose, not allowing it to
be diverted for another use, and guaranteeing that the projects would be completed.
He reiterated that the program had been designed to require Council to conduct a
public hearing every year to evaluate the need for the fee and its amount; that the
sitting Council would then have the ability to reduce the rate or repeal the fee if TOT or
another revenue stream became available. He proposed that Council adopt the
program with a 30 -year sunset.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz questioned whether staff had any response to the concerns
posed by Mr. Nickel, the Rockinghorse Road resident.
Director Allison recommended that Mr. Nickel come talk to the staff in the Public Works
Department, saying that it may well be that his property drained directly into a private
drain before ultimately going into a public one but he would rather not speculate on the
matter without first checking the City's records.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz commented that a very long road had been traveled to reach
this point, noting that he was on the FAC in 2000 when this item was initially presented.
Regarding concerns about this matter being rushed, he stated that the first financing
matrix identified 13 different proposals, which were subsequently whittled down to the
most meaningful, with initial cost figures ranging from $20 million to $40 million. He
reported that staff assembled a group of qualified professional consultants to work with
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the FAC, which ensured the cumulative knowledge of many individuals to explore the
issue and furnish advice to Council. He noted that the most difficult issue then and now
was the concept of fairness, saying that everyone agreed there was a problem and the
remaining question was in determining the most equitable approach. He reminded his
colleagues that an initial $4 million expenditure had already been made that winter
when Mother Nature emphasized the urgency and importance of addressing the
problem. He indicated that he generally opposed taxes but recognized that the City
needed to take action promptly and had no other source of revenue.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz addressed the projected hotel revenue by noting it may be
his conservative fiscal tendency, but he did not count money before it was in the bank.
He noted that when the hotel project first came to the City, there was a request for a
nine -hole golf course and a projected opening date of 2004 at which point it would
begin generating revenues, saying that, while he agreed there was now a developer
with great potential, they too, had moved their starting construction date back a year in
a relatively short period of time. He reiterated Councilman Stern's observation that the
hospitality industry was going to be dependent on economic cycles and the amount of
revenue the City received would fluctuate.
Councilman Wolowicz mentioned that there had been a lot of discussion about "needs"
versus "wants" and the issue of priorities, saying that in his estimation the primary role
of municipal government was to provide protective services, followed by infrastructure.
He stated that it was significant to note that the current Council's predecessors had
done a very good job in establishing a 50% General fund reserve policy; that the City
had finally reached that goal, but based on the revenue and expenditure estimates
currently available, the General fund reserve would be slightly below the 50% level in
five years. He noted that the issue of a sunset clause had troubled him greatly, saying
that he had overcome his concerns by recognizing the urgency of the need to repair the
City's storm drain system and the fact that the user fee could only be used for this very
specific purpose. He maintained that the importance of the City's ability to borrow in an
emergency was also a factor, saying that with no apparatus in place between the
current time and when additional revenues may become available, the City could dip
well below its General fund reserves policy level and would be prohibited by statute to
spend on other items.
Councilman Gardiner thanked staff, the FAC, and everyone who worked so diligently on
this item, noting that he appreciated the fact that it had involved a tremendous amount
of work. He commented that he also appreciated that for the first time Council was
being provided with an opportunity to listen to the City's residents on this issue, saying
that it was refreshing because they were ultimately the ones paying the bill. He noted
that the residents had made it clear they could probably agree with the user fee if it was
properly implemented and also, nearly unanimously, that they believed a sunset was
necessary, saying that whether Council, staff, or the consultants believed that made
sense, the residents certainly did.
Councilman Gardiner asked how much the Priority 1 projects totaled.
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Senior Engineer Dragoo answered approximately $9 million.
Councilman Gardiner stated that it made sense to him to design the user fee in such a
way that it provided $9 million to fund the Priority 1 projects with a sunset at that point to
stop work, check the progress of the program, ensure that things were being done
correctly and that the cost estimates were right. He explained that by doing the most
urgent projects initially and then having the fee sunset upon their completion, the timing
would be right for the City to determine if and how much revenue was going to be
generated by the hotel. He declared that he took a dim view of the presumption that
there would be emergencies in the future but no hotel revenue, saying he does not
believe that was a reasonable assumption.
Councilman Gardiner asked if staff had any estimate of how long it would take to
complete the Priority 1 projects.
Director McLean replied that based on the rate model used to develop the $86 ERU,
the Priority 1 projects would be completed on or about the 23rd year of the program.
Councilman Gardiner questioned why it was projected to take 23 years to fund $9
million of Priority 1 projects at $1.3 million per year.
City Manager Evans responded that the projection included $20 million worth of
projects - $4.6 million of storm drain lining, which was not included in the Priority 1
category, along with maintenance and other costs. He indicated that he believed the
total amount was actually $34 million over 30 years in 2005 dollars which included all
Priority 1 and 2 projects, the lining projects, maintenance, additional staff, and other
related costs. He explained if only Priority 1 projects were done with no lining, no staff
hired, and no maintenance performed, the cost was approximately $1.3 million in six
years.
Accounting Manager Downs noted that the McCarrell Canyon project was actually a
Priority 2 project, saying that the Priority 1 projects were halted in order to address
McCarrell Canyon and would need to be resumed later on, which was why completion
of the projects was extended out beyond 20 years.
Councilman Gardiner inquired if McCarrell Canyon was included in the $9 million figure.
Accounting Manager Downs answered that McCarrell Canyon was not included in that
number.
Councilman Gardiner remarked that he sensed a 20 -year sunset was not what the
people paying the bill had in mind, saying that it appeared they would be willing to
tolerate something more akin to seven years. He indicated that he could support a
proposal providing a sunset of perhaps five to seven years, saying that would afford
enough time to make reasonable progress on the Priority 1 projects then allow an
opportunity to review things and determine how much revenue the Long Point hotel was
generating. He remarked that his focus was always to consult with the residents, noting
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that he did not hear a single representative of the RPV Council of Homeowners
Associations voice support for the user fee without a sunset and that Council would be
well advised to craft something that would engender enough support for passage.
Councilman Long recalled in an earlier meeting Councilman Gardiner expressed
concern that fees and decisions were being based on survey results and that Council
should determine the correct solution regardless of public opinion, saying that, if it were
true then, it was equally true now. He stated that he understood that many people favor
a sunset and he could be persuaded that a 30 -year sunset was reasonable. He
indicated that he did not support a parcel tax for the same reasons so eloquently stated
by his colleague. He proclaimed that RPV was actually a relatively poor city, saying
that, while it was wealthy in terms of its citizens and volunteer services, the City
received only $363 in revenue per person per year compared to the statewide average
of $1,208 and, unlike the average city, RPV was located in one of the most expensive
counties and had a low population density and a large amount of infrastructure.
Councilman Long noted that the City may indeed have some new revenue sources
available in the future but indicated that he believed it was often safer to make
conservative assumptions. He asserted that it might seem unreasonable to assume the
City would have no new revenue and an abundance of emergencies but that was
exactly what had happened in recent years. He noted that even if the Ocean Trails golf
course added a quarter of a million dollars to the City revenues in a year, even if the
Long Point hotel generated additional proceeds and even if the proposed user fee
passed, the City would still receive less than half the revenue of the average California
city. He advised his colleagues that the City's recently approved budget would spend
$750,000 more than was being taken in, saying that for obvious reasons this approach
could not go on indefinitely.
Councilman Long declared that from the beginning he had disapproved of the idea of
segregating the storm drain projects into priorities, favoring instead an approach that
would solve all the City's drainage problems. He noted that Priority 3 projects had been
dropped from the program and now there were those advocating dropping Priority 2
projects as well. He indicated that he could accept eliminating the Priority 3 projects,
which presented no danger to streets and structures regardless of how long they were
neglected, but that Priority 1 and 2 projects presented a very different scenario. He
reminded Council that McCarrell Canyon, which caused so many problems in the recent
past, was classified originally as a Priority 2 project because it was believed to pose no
immediate threat, saying that was a good faith judgment that turned out to be a
mistake. He explained that Priority 1 and 2 projects were defined as those where
property and streets were threatened, saying that the only thing that separated the two
categories was a judgment call as to when there was going to be a failure, which was a
concept he was uncomfortable with. He also maintained that storm drain lining should
not be delayed.
Councilman Long advised his colleagues that the City would be relying on
unpredictable hotel revenue if it decided to pay for a 30 -year program with a five- or
seven -year fee because that was the only other additional revenue source in the
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foreseeable future and no one knew exactly what those figures will be since the only
certainty was a developer's financial projection. He contended that this revenue source
would be unreliable and would gyrate up and down wildly, saying that because of this
volatility, he would prefer to use those funds for "wants" rather than "needs."
Councilman Long proclaimed that the proposed program in fact included a sunset by
allowing Council to repeal or suspend the user fee year by year. He indicated that a
shorter sunset would eliminate the City's ability to borrow against it; that there would not
be enough money, even for known problems; and, that the City would become
dependent on revenues from a single hotel controlled by a single developer. He
reminded the audience that RPV was forced to fight developers in court to establish its
independence and right to exist. He noted some had suggested the City adopt a
spending program that made it dependent for essential infrastructure repairs on a single
developer, saying that he would rather the City not rely on such a funding source for
providing essential services to its residents.
Councilman Long stated that he was pleased to hear the FAC Vice -Chair mention the
possibility of the passage of ACA -13 but noted that there were also bills proposed from
time to time which might make it more difficult for new user fees to be passed. He
opined that imposing an automatic, short- duration sunset left open the possibility that a
new State law would be passed requiring a two - thirds majority, making it even more
difficult to set a new fee in the future. He stated that even a 30 -year sunset carried
some risks, most notably that it was exactly the amount of time predicted to raise just
enough money for known projects and inherently contained the presumption that
nothing else would go wrong in the meantime. He indicated that he hoped that first
assumption was correct if that was the direction the City was headed, quoting former
Mayor Dyda that "Let us remember, no formula is perfect; perfection is a pursuit that
merely goes on forever while the problem continues to worsen."
Mayor Clark observed that his colleagues basically articulated very thoughtfully and
constructively all the points he, too, would express, saying that for him there were three
fundamentals components to this discussion: need, equity and fairness, and decision.
He indicated that from his perspective the need was overwhelming, saying there was no
question that the City should move forward with a comprehensive revitalization of its
storm drain infrastructure. He reported that he had attended a number of homeowners
association meetings on this topic and had heard virtually unanimous affirmation of that
fact, noting that the citizens expected Council and the City to move forward proactively
to solve the problem.
Mayor Clark agreed that there was probably no perfect solution, saying the most
pressing question was how to implement the program equitably and fairly. He opined
that the best alternative appeared to be the one his colleagues also supported — the
user fee. He indicated that it was Council's decision to approve the user fee but
ultimately it was in the hands of the affected property owners to affirm or reject that
decision by their action on the mail ballot. He advised that when he joined the Council,
he made a commitment to partner with the community in decision making, saying that a
mail ballot election on the storm drain user fee exemplified that commitment by allowing
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the affected property owners to make the final decision.
Mayor Clark voiced his support for a decision in favor of a storm drain user fee. He
indicated that on the issue of a sunset he was persuaded that there was an absolute
need to have a sunset from the community's standpoint, saying that the remaining
question was the best length of time for that sunset.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz, to adopt the
proposed storm drain user fee with a 30 -year sunset.
Councilman Long moved, seconded for discussion purposes by Councilman Gardiner,
to amend the motion by deleting the sunset provision.
Councilman Stern agreed there were reasons not to have a sunset, saying his proposal
to include one was in response to residents' concerns regarding when the program
would end. He indicated that a 30 -year sunset would ensure the completion of Priority
1 and 2 projects, saying that he could not, in good conscience accept, a shorter period
than he knew was necessary to get the job done. He indicated that it was difficult for
Councils to spend General fund revenue on things that were hidden underground,
saying that, if the public was convinced they would get what they needed if this Council
placed a sunset that fell short of the projects that needed to be completed, they would
likely be very disappointed when future Councils failed to recognize the continuing and
unseen need for storm drain projects. He contended that, if the fee was in place for 30
years and TOT revenues from the hotel were realized, the residents could direct
Council to use that revenue to pay down the user fee each and every year and the
projects would still get done.
Councilman Long indicated that he would reluctantly go along with a 30 -year sunset in
the event his amendment failed, saying that he wanted it to be known that he opposed
a sunset because 30 years from now when there were new problems with the storm
drains, he would be on record as supporting the notion that the City needed and
deserved something more than the absolute bare minimum solution to this problem.
Councilman Long's amended motion failed on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Long
NOES: Stern, Wolowicz, Gardiner, Clark
The discussion returned to Councilman Stern's motion.
Councilman Gardiner, stating that he had listened very carefully to the President of
CHOA, who indicated that not a single representative in their organization supported
the user fee without a sunset and that he interpreted that to be an indication that a
sunset closer to 10 rather than 30 years was desired. Therefore, he proposed to
amend the motion to include a 10 -year sunset with the understanding that Council
could review and renew the process, if necessary, at the time the initial fee expired.
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Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz seconded Councilman Gardiner 's amended motion for
discussion purposes.
Councilman Stern maintained that some of the projects would inherently be eliminated
if the time period were reduced. He reminded his colleagues that all residents who
drain into the City's system were being asked to bear the burden citywide, saying the
reduced time period would not provide citywide benefit unless the projects were
completed out of order without regard to the actual need. He remarked that people
have angrily asked why these repairs were not budgeted and completed in the past,
noting that a ten -year timeline basically would create the exact same problem in the
future and he would firmly oppose any period less than what was necessary to
complete the job.
Councilman Long agreed that Councilman Gardiner was probably right in suggesting
that what residents meant by a sunset was a relatively short time period and the shorter
the better because they did not want to pay any additional fees or taxes in the first
place. He noted that people had asked him about the City's reserve fund for
infrastructure repair and that he had to tell them that the City had no such fund and
that, even with this proposal, there still would not be one, but at least the known
drainage problems would be addressed.
Mayor Clark noted that Councilman Gardiner accurately summarized as part of the
rationale for his amendment to the motion that CHOA found no support for the
proposed user fee without a sunset provision among its 22 homeowners associations,
saying that he did not pick up a specific time horizon as much as a clear message that
they could not support a storm drain user fee without a sunset. He remarked that
Council members had clearly focused on a 30 -year period, which coincided with the
term of the identified projects and inquired if there was any room for a compromise of
perhaps a 20 -year sunset.
Councilman Gardiner commented that the preponderance of homeowners associations
seemed to favor a maximum ten year sunset, noting that he did not hear anyone say
they did not want to pay, but that they wanted a mechanism built into the program to
check in and see if any midcourse corrections might be needed. He opined that a 30-
year sunset provided no opportunity to check on things, saying that the sunset was not
being advocated to cease work on the projects but rather to pause, examine things, and
discuss them with the people paying the bill. He suggested that, since the City had until
March 2006 to send the mail ballots out and still begin collecting the revenue on the
2007 property tax bill, it might be prudent to continue the matter and ask the residents
exactly what they meant by a sunset rather than Council's arguing semantics.
Councilman Long reiterated that performing a survey to decide how to make this
decision was not the correct way to proceed, saying that Council needed to determine
how best to proceed then educate the public on what was necessary. He opined that
the only rational sunset was one that matched the length of the repair program. He
contended that a compromise had already evolved, saying that he initially favored a fee
that was three times higher with no sunset and Councilman Gardiner staked out a
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position favoring no new fees or taxes, and a reliance on transient occupancy taxes.
He noted that a very sensible compromise had been formulated, declaring that he had
come off his original position and he was finished compromising.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz indicated that Councilman Gardiner previously stated he
could agree with reducing the amount of time and raising the fee, noting he had to look
no further than Version 8 of the program to find a 25 -year projected time line with
everything remaining virtually the same except a change from 30 to 25 years for a
roughly $14.00 difference per ERU.
Councilman Gardiner characterized his position differently. He stated that public policy
involved engaging the stakeholders, saying it was a wise and useful approach when
dealing with the public and asking them for money to indicate a recommendation with
some alternatives and then discuss things with them. He indicated that it made sense
to pay attention when those stakeholders made it patently clear they disagreed with a
specific aspect of a proposal, noting that he did not hear them object to the fee or fixing
the storm drains but he did hear them say they would like a periodic check on what was
being done so, in the event something in the process needed to be fixed, the City would
have a chance to fix it.
Mayor Clark contended that he had not heard anyone say they were looking for an
opportunity to check up on things, reiterating that he had heard a number of
constituents say they wanted a sunset; that they did not want a tax in perpetuity. He
reminded his colleagues that there was a mandatory review already built into the
process and every year an opportunity to suspend, repeal, or reduce the fee, noting
that was why he believed it made sense to implement a 30 -year sunset — one which fits
the list of projects. He remarked that a shorter duration for the user fee would create
the situation where more projects would be located in certain parts of the City than in
others, raising the question of whether the user fee could be assessed citywide when it
benefited properties located basically in one area; and, that it would not allow the City to
borrow effectively in the event of an emergency. He noted it was for these reasons that
he had suggested a middle ground of a 20 -year sunset, which would complete many of
the projects, although not all of them.
Councilman Long stated that he did not believe there could be a middle ground with a
short sunset, noting that three members of Council were from the east side of the City
which was older, had more Priority 1 projects, and would be done first; two members
were from the west side which had fewer high - priority projects and would be done last.
He declared that, in all fairness to the community at large, the projects should be
completed citywide and that would only happen if a 30 -year program were
implemented. He remarked that the only other way to fairly distribute the projects would
be to take them out of logical order, doing some of the lower priority ones on the west
side first. He indicated the Mayor Pro Tern came up with something he could live with
when he suggested increasing the ERU and fully funding everything in 25 years, saying
that the concept of cutting off the program in the middle when it was evident that the
work on the front end would primarily benefit one side of the City versus the other was
certainly not fair or equitable.
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Councilman Gardiner's amended motion to include a 10 -year sunset provision failed on
the following roll call vote:
AYES: Gardiner
NOES: Wolowicz, Long, Stern, Clark
Mayor Clark turned the discussion back to Councilman Stern's original motion to adopt
the proposed storm drain user fee with a 30 -year sunset provision.
Councilman Long urged Councilman Gardiner's support of the motion, saying that they
were both uncomfortable with a sunset, albeit for very different reasons, but their
colleagues had crafted a compromise which although perhaps not the optimal solution
was certainly justifiable in the long run and in the best interests of the City.
Councilman Gardiner voiced appreciation to Councilman Long for his request but
deferred, saying that it was Council's job to represent the public and he did not believe
the 30 -year sunset Council was considering was what the public wanted.
The motion to adopt the proposed user fee with a 30 -year sunset moved by
Councilman Stern and seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz carried on the following
ro l I call vote:
AYES: Stern, Long, Wolowicz, Clark
NOES: Gardiner
City Attorney Lynch suggested reintroducing the ordinance introduced several meetings
ago with the following changes: Correct an error on the publication dates and include a
new section to the ordinance which will state: "New chapter to the Municipal Code
3.44070 Duration - unless repealed previously by the City Council pursuant to Section
3.44020G1 the storm drain user fee imposed by this Chapter shall expire on June 30,
2037 and shall not be levied by the City during any subsequent fiscal year."
Councilman Long moved, seconded by Councilman Stern, to RE- INTRODUCE
ORDINANCE NO. 4181 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS
VERDES ESTABLISHING AN ANNUAL STORM DRAIN USER FEE AND AMENDING
THE RANCHO PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE, AS AMENDED TO INCLUDE
THE LANGUAGE PROPOSED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Wolowicz, Long, Stern, Clark
NOES: Gardiner
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Long, to ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005 -702 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO
PALOS VERDES AUTHORIZING THE USE OF A MAIL BALLOT ELECTION,
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CALLING A SPECIAL MAIL BALLOT ELECTION FOR AUGUST 30, 20059 FOR
SUBMITTAL OF A PROPOSED ANNUAL STORM DRAIN USER FEE TO OWNERS
OF REAL PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE FEE, CONFIRMING A REPORT ON THE
PROPOSED FEE, AND ADOPTING PROCEDURES FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE
ELECTION; and, 6) Approve the establishment of the User Fee Assistance Program.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Wolowicz, Stern, Long, Clark
NOES: Gardiner
Mayor Clark entertained Council's closing comments on the matter.
Councilman Gardiner thanked his colleagues for a thoughtful and thorough discussion
as well as the many courtesies extended to different points of view.
Councilman Stern thanked Councilman Gardiner for his valuable comments and input.
Councilman Long echoed Councilman Stern's thanks, noting that Councilman Gardiner
had a tremendous amount of influence on his final decision. He explained that he
certainly never intended to suggest in his concluding comments that Councilman
Gardiner do anything other than vote his best conscience and judgment.
Mayor Clark advised the audience that with this action those property owners who
would be subject to the City's proposed storm drain user fee would be given the
opportunity to make the final decision on this matter.
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor Clark recessed the meeting at 12:09 a.m. and
reconvened the meeting at 12:17 a.m.
A discussion ensued regarding how best to proceed with the remaining agenda items,
with Council ultimately deciding to continue the meeting in the remaining agenda order.
Appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of a Height Variation (Case No.
ZON2004- 00087), for property located at 28129 Ella Road [Appellant: Moss and
Associates, on behalf of Jamie Anvaripour] [Applicant: Stan Anderson, for AEG
Architects; Property Owner: Jamie Anvaripour] (Continued from April 5, 2005)
(1804)
Mayor Clark opened the Public Hearing.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to continue the item to
July 19, 2005. Without objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
Appeal of the Pirates of the Caribbean Film Permit Conditions [Applicant: Second
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Mate Productions] [Appellants: Native Plant Society and Sierra Club] Project
Location: Lower Filiorum Property (202)
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru indicated that notice of the public hearing was
duly published and all written correspondence received on this item was previously
distributed to Council.
Assistant to the City Manager Gina Park presented a summary staff report.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz inquired whether any specialists would be involved in
monitoring the film shoot and, if so, who was responsible for paying for their services.
Assistant Park responded that a biologist would be on site to monitor any brush
clearance or weed abatement activities and would be paid for by the film company.
She indicated that the film activity area was completely located within the current weed
abatement boundaries of the exemption program and the access road was also
included as part of the required annual weed abatement.
Councilman Gardiner indicated his understanding that the movie company intended to
leave the area in a condition that was equal to or better than its current condition.
Assistant to the City Manager Park agreed that was their intent and the way the film
permit was conditioned.
Councilman Gardiner stated that he wanted to make certain the concerns of the Sierra
Club and the California Native Plant Society were satisfactorily addressed.
City Attorney Lynch advised Council that the project was subject to the requirements of
CEQA, but noted that it could qualify as one of the exemptions if the City required the
grade of the access roadway to be reduced to a maximum of 10 percent.
Mayor Clark declared the Public Hearing open.
Laura Sode- Matteson, Location Manager for Disney, advised Council that City staff had
been extremely diligent and thorough in requiring that Disney address all concerns,
saying that she believed they had now all been met. She expressed uncertainty
regarding the 10 percent grade requirement for the access roadway, saying that she
would have to consult with their engineer on that point. She indicated that denial of
their permit would set their production schedule back significantly, noting that they had
a great deal invested in this project and did not expect to be standing before Council at
the eleventh hour, having begun the process far in advance. She stated that they had
received many positive responses from the neighboring community and noted that the
project would provide some revenue for the City.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz queried how wide an area was encompassed when speaking
with the surrounding residents.
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Ms. Sode- Matteson responded that the filming area was adjacent to the Portuguese
Bend Homeowners Association; staff had provided them with a map indicating which
residents required notification; and that all neighbor identified by the City had received
notification. She also explained that the property was approximately 300 acres in size,
but the proposed activity would be located in the center of that area and was not close
to any residences.
Councilman Stern questioned the implications of reducing the grade of the access
roadway to 10 percent grade and inquired whether staff believed that this would create
problems for the film company.
Director Rojas explained that the requirement meant that the road would likely have to
be rerouted in order to reduce the grade, making it less direct. He indicated that staff
did not foresee this posing any problem as long as it remained within the same weed
abatement area, noting the analysis had yet to be performed.
Barbara Sattler, representing the California Native Plant Society (CNPS), indicated that
they were quite concerned about potential habitat impacts on the site, saying that they
found a number of flaws with the original biological study on which the weed abatement
permit was based. She stated that this represented another project for which they
received no notification despite the fact that it was applied for in February, saying that
lack of disclosure was particularly disturbing. She remarked that while they appreciated
that staff had changed some of the conditions on the project, there were still problems
with the project, such as the fact that this was the second project occurring on the same
site, resulting in cumulative impacts; staff had wrongly assumed that there were no
sensitive species on the site based on an inadequate biological report; the conditions
the City biologist placed on the weed abatement project were designed to protect
potentially sensitive species that may be on sit, which is why the property owner was
required to mow the site and conduct a follow -up survey to ensure that if sensitive
species were present that they would be adequately protected. She noted the biologist
likely assumed there would be no further activity on the site when he wrote the
conditions, saying that the current proposal for filming involved much more intensive
activity taking place on the property, i.e., grading, large -scale brush clearance as
required by the Fire Department, movement of heavy equipment, and a high level of
noise and activity over nearly two months.
Ms. Sattler noted there was nothing in any of the documentation mentioning impacts on
cactus wrens which were reported in the biological study as being on the site and
suggested that the City needed to focus more broadly than just on gnatcatchers when
these projects arise. She indicated that they were also very concerned with impacts to
native plants and professed staff's claim that the film permit was exempt from CEQA
was in error. She cited excerpts from Class 4 Exemptions, specifically that the Filiorum
site had been identified and mapped in the NCCP Sub Area Plan as a regionally
important habitat linkage; that exemptions must be qualified by a consideration of the
project's location; that a project which was ordinarily insignificant in most locations may
be significant if its proposed to take place in a particularly sensitive environment,
indicating that she believed that to be the case in a regionally important habitat linkage;
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and, that exceptions were inapplicable when the cumulative impacts of successive
projects of the same type over time was significant. She advised Council that repeated
impacts of this sort were going to degrade the native vegetation, increase weeds, and
drive away sensitive wildlife, making these CEQA exemptions inapplicable under this
circumstance. She declared that there would be long -term biological impacts from
these types of repeated uses of this site, saying that was in large part the basis for their
appeal.
Bob Nelson, Rancho Palos Verdes, inquired what code, regulation, or error was made
in granting the original permit, saying that when that question was answered, then the
appeal could be considered. He reminded Council that staff had found the proposed
project to be a minor temporary use of land, which had no adverse effects on the
environment and urged Council's denial of the appeal as the appropriate course of
action.
Dana Ireland, Rancho Palos Verdes, advised Council that he resided at 1 Sea Cove
Drive, which was adjacent to the proposed film site, saying that he was very concerned
about the project for several reasons. He stated that, while the staff report indicated
that all adjacent property owners were contacted and had indicated their support of the
project, he had recently found out about the project quite by accident. He remarked
that he and his wife supported filming activities but were concerned about the logistics
of this particular project. He indicated that an abundance of equipment would be
moved onto the site by heavy trucks on an unimproved road directly across from his
residence and in the middle of his view, saying that he did not know what the road
would look like, how long it would be there, and what the detriment to his property
would be. He suggested that Narcissa Drive, a paved improved road which provided
direct access to the site, should be used rather than creating a new unimproved road to
accommodate semi - trucks traveling up a steep hill, saying that he was legitimately
concerned that if one of these trucks malfunctioned it could come shooting across
Palos Verdes Drive South, causing serious danger. He questioned the decision to
create a new road when an adequate one already existed.
Kay Finer, representing the Palos Verdes Chamber of Commerce, voiced the Board's
support for this film production, saying that staff appeared to be supportive of the
process, that the film company had gone through the permit process, completed their
due diligence, followed all the guidelines and, most importantly, they intended to fully
restore the site shortly after the filming was completed. She reminded Council that
there were economic benefits to filming in RPV, including tax revenue and the collateral
benefit provided to a number of services and businesses within the community.
Tim Kelly_, Rancho Palos Verdes, a resident in one of the neighborhoods impacted by
the proposed filming activity, stated that the film company representatives contacted
him directly and made quite a positive impression. He noted that they had performed
surveys for endangered species on the property and had agreed to pay for everything,
saying that the project would be good for the neighborhood, good for the City, and good
for the State. He urged Council to deny the appeal.
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Linda Kai, Assistant Location Manager for "Pirates of the Caribbean," introduced herself
as a native Californian, saying that she valued and appreciated what was left of native
California. She indicated that City staff had gone to great lengths to protect the
community and provide information to Council, saying that the film company had
covered every gamut of the City's requirements for the permit and would continue to
treat the City and its residents in the most consummate and professional manner
possible. She reported that their production company would have a monitor on site as
well as employ Sheriffs and fire safety services. She responded to the letter from the
Sierra Club by noting that the only thing mentioned therein which might be endangered
was some cactus on the periphery of the property. She urged Council's denial of the
appeal, saying that this project could serve as a very good template for the future.
Michael Kelly, Deputy Director of the California Film Commission, professed that film
production was a very clean, non - polluting industry that sustains thousands of jobs for
California, generated money for small businesses throughout the state, and generated
tax revenue. He advised that, as film projects begin to film outside the state with
increasing frequency, California stood to lose a vital industry that had supported its
economy for years. He stated that the industry looked forward to working with local
communities to create a balance that would satisfy everyone.
Ms. Sattler maintained that claiming the site could be restored after the film's
completion might be true if the site were not a biologically significant area. She
contended that heavy vehicles would cause soil compaction and she did not believe this
type of area could truly be restored to its previous biological level or that the impacts
would only be temporary. She noted that one of the representatives even described
this project as a "template," saying that she feared this would become an ongoing use
of the property, which would undoubtedly have lasting ecological impacts.
Mayor Clark requested staff's response to Ms. Sattleris comments.
Councilman Long also requested staff's comments regarding Mr. Ireland's concerns.
Director Rojas advised Council that Narcissa Drive was a private roadway and the film
company had not been granted permission to use this roadway to access the property.
Councilman Gardiner queried whether film company representatives had actually
attempted to gain access on Narcissa Drive.
Ms. Sode- Matteson reported that, while the Portuguese Bend Homeowners Association
had no objections to their filming, they did indicate they would not allow use of Narcissa
Drive because of the presence of children and horses and the fact it had always been
maintained as a private roadway.
Councilman Gardiner inquired if there might be some other way to address Mr. Ireland's
concerns.
Ms. Sode- Matteson apologized to Mr. Ireland, saying that they were informed recently
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that his residence was not part of the adjacent homeowners association, which was
why he did not receive advanced notification.
City Manager Evans remarked that it seemed impossible to imagine that a truck could
get loose, run down the road and across the street into Mr. Ireland's property. He
suggested the Council might want to conduct a site visit to gain a better understanding
of the situation.
Councilman Stern noted that the sections of the property designated for the staging
area, vehicle parking, and trailers appeared to be located on the old Pony Club site,
which was graded and leveled long ago. He inquired if staff was aware of any habitat in
that area.
Director Rojas advised Council that the sensitive habitat areas were located to the
south of the areas mentioned by Councilman Stern, saying that staff knew this was not
an area where coastal sage scrub was located based on the weed abatement maps.
He indicated that the disturbance related to the film activity, including the brush
clearance, was all encompassed in the proposed weed abatement area directed by the
Fire Department, noting that staff had nonetheless imposed a condition that the area be
inspected by qualified biologists who would walk the site to determine that there were
no sensitive species present.
Mayor Clark closed the Public Hearing.
Councilman Long stated that he was not persuaded the habitat impact was significant.
He noted that Ms. Sattler's concerns regarding this type of use having a significant
impact might be well founded if repeated uses of this kind were permitted in the future.
He observed that Council was faced with an application for this specific use only and it
appeared to be temporary and would have minimal impacts. He mentioned that it
seemed likely there might be temporary undesirable impacts to Mr. Ireland's property.
Councilman Stern directed staff to focus on possible engineering solutions to minimize
any risk in the event the grading condition required a redesign or relocation of the road.
City Attorney Lynch advised Council that staff did not want to unnecessarily exacerbate
the grading by requiring additional switchbacks, which would cause further impacts and
expand the project. She suggested including an additional condition requiring that all
actions related to the film permit be confined to the areas of the subject property where
weed abatement was previously approved by the Council.
Councilman Long moved, seconded by Councilman Stern, to deny the appeal and
uphold the conditional film permit, as amended.
The motion passed on the following roll call vote:
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AYES: Stern, Long, Wolowicz, Gardiner, Clark
NOES: None
Mayor Clark remarked that, while he was very sensitive to the concerns raised in the
appeal by the Sierra Club and the California Native Plant Society, he could not support
the appeal based on the preponderance of evidence presented.
Councilman Gardiner directed staff to review the points made by Mr. Knight in his
correspondence to the Council regarding the City's procedures for film permits.
CITY COUNCIL ORAL REPORTS:
None.
REGULAR NEW BUSINESS:
Appointment of Emergency Preparedness Committee Members (106 x 401)
Councilman Long moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to appoint Charlotte
Iseda, Tim McCully and Timothy Weiner to the Emergency Preparedness Committee.
Without objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
Council members voiced congratulations to the appointees.
Reso. No. 2005 -71: Extension of NCCP Lobbyist Contract (1203)
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz commented that the contract extension, in and of itself, was
not significant, saying that Council was faced with this exact item sometime ago at
which point he requested a report on the matter. He remarked that he remained
perplexed as to exactly what services Mr. Caves provided the City. He noted that he
understood that the City had the very best lobbyist in the state for this particular project
but, given the amount of time this process had taken, he would prefer not to see
another $60,000 being requested again in 12 months. He indicated that he would
support this item for three months, contingent on staff monitoring progress on a monthly
basis to determine that the City was actually getting what it needed from the lobbyist.
Director Rojas explained that Mr. Caves had direct access to relevant decision makers,
noting without his contacts the City would simply be another agency in a long line of
others requesting money from the State. He indicated that the State was likely to
proffer the City a commitment of nearly $12 million as a result of that access, saying
that staff and the Land Conservancy believed it was imperative to maintain the lobbyist
team until the money was in hand, which was expected to happen sometime that fall.
Councilman Long stated that, in his experience, a consultant typically charged an hourly
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rate and one could account for the time they had put in and what had been
accomplished. He declared that he found it somewhat troubling that the City was
paying for access rather than time and questioned whether it was necessary to continue
paying for that access once an application had been submitted and the proper
authorities were made aware of it. He cautioned that the entire decision - making
process came into question if the City continued to pay a fee to a private individual
month after month in order to gain access to state government. He stated that he
understood the value of having someone with the necessary experience and contacts to
provide that service initially but at some point in time raised the specter of paying for
influence. He remarked that he shared some of the Mayor Pro Tem's concerns, adding
that he was prepared to go along with this request one more time without further
explanation, but if it came up again he would certainly take a harder look at the request.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz directed staff to relay his concerns to Mr. Caves and to
require his firm to provide the City with monthly progress reports.
Councilman Gardiner moved, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz, to 1) Extend the
consulting agreement with Conservation Strategy Group (Joseph Caves) through
September 2005, with the consultant to provide the City with monthly progress reports;
and 2) ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -71, APPROVING A $15,000 BUDGET
APPROPRIATION TO COVER THE COST OF THE EXTENDED CONSULTING
AGREEMENT.
The motion passed on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Stern, Long, Gardiner, Wolowicz, Clark
NOES: None
Award of Contract for Services to Prepare an Environmental Impact Report for the
Crestridge Estates Senior Housing /Senior Center Project (701)
Ken Dyda, President of Peninsula Seniors, thanked the Council and staff for moving the
EIR sa in , rocess along, that it had been a great help to them in planning the location
p g saying
of their Senior Center project.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz moved, seconded by Councilman Stern, to authorize the
Mayor and the City Clerk to sign a professional services agreement in an amount not to
exceed $142,730.50, with RBF Consulting, to prepare an Environmental Impact Report
(EIR) for the Crestridge Estates Senior Housing /Senior Center project on property
located at the northwest corner of Crestridge Road and Crenshaw Boulevard. Without
objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
Reso. NO. 2005 -72: Mira Vista Speed Hump Project (1502 x 1204)
Mayor Clark questioned how the speed hump locations were ultimately determined.
Director Allison answered that the locations were based on considerations such as
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location of driveways, intersections, and flat sections of road, saying that the residents
were provided with an opportunity to review and comment on their positioning and to
sign a petition based on that information.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz inquired what prompted the decision not to use slotted speed
humps.
Director Allison responded that the choice to use the traditional speed humps was
made in response to the Fire Department's concerns and the expressed preference of
the residents. He indicated that staff would be conducting a before - and -after study and
would compare how the traditional speed humps performed in comparison to the slotted
speed humps.
Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz moved, seconded by Councilman Stern, to 1) Approve the
Plans and Specifications for the construction of the Mira Vista Speed Hump Project for
the construction of twelve speed humps; 2) ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -72, A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -53, THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION FOR
FISCAL YEAR 2005 -06, FOR A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT TO THE CITY'S TRAFFIC
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM; 3) Awarded a Construction Contract to Sully - Miller
Construction Company in the amount of $45,380, for the Mira Vista Speed Hump
Project; award a contract to Charles Abbott and Associates, Inc., for Construction
Inspection services in an amount not to exceed $5,000, and authorize staff to spend up
to $10,000 for possible extra work; thereby approving a $60,380 construction budget;
and 4) Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk to execute a construction contract with
Sully - Miller Construction Company and execute a contract for construction inspection
services with Charles Abbott Associates.
The motion passed on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Long, Wolowicz, Gardiner, Stern, Clark
NOES: None
City Council Meetings, Workshops and Events (307)
Councilman Long moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner to, continue the item to
July 5, 2005. Without objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
Status Report Regarding Construction Issues at 2 Yacht Harbor Drive (1203)
Councilman Long moved, seconded by Councilman Gardiner, to Continue the matter to
July 5, 2005. Without objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
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COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS & SUGGESTION OF FUTURE
AGENDA ITEMS:
None.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT:
City Attorney Lynch reported that Council 1) Unanimously approved participation in the
Monrovia appeal with the fee not to exceed $10,000; and, 2) Gave unanimous direction
to the negotiating parties to pursue purchase of the Upper Filiorum property.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mayor Clark formally adjourned the meeting at 1:29 a.m.
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