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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 1, 2005
The meeting was called to order at 6:00 P.M. by Mayor Clark at Fred Hesse Community
Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard, and was immediately recessed to closed session.
At 7:19 P.M., the meeting was reconvened for regular session.
Roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Long, Stern, Wolowicz, Mayor Clark
ABSENT: Gardiner
Also present were City Manager Les Evans; Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Carolynn
Petru; City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Finance
Director Dennis McLean; Deputy Planning Director Greg Pfost; Associate Planner Dave
Blumenthal; Senior Planner Kit Fox; and Recording Secretary Denise Bothe.
Mayor Clark advised the audience that Councilman Gardiner was not present because
he was out of town on business.
FLAG SALUTE:
The flag salute was led by Brian Jung, from Boy Scout Troop No. 211.
MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS:
With the assistance of a PowerPoint slide presentation, Mayor Clark highlighted that
evening's Did You Know Facts regarding slope drains. He explained that slope drains
are concrete drainage ditches, which are also referred to as swales, bench drains, or V-
ditches, and are a very important part of the City's drainage system. He explained that
these ditches usually traverse steep slopes and direct storm drain runoff to the nearest
storm drain outlet; and stated that the purpose of the ditches was to suppress the
erosion of slopes, minimizing the potential of slope failure and property damage. He
highlighted the importance of keeping these slope drains intact and clear of debris at all
times and pointed out that it is the property owner's responsibility on private property -
not the City - to maintain the slope drains on their property; and he suggested placing
this information on the City's website and in the City's quarterly newsletter to re-
emphasis the importance of these slope drains.
Mayor Clark presented a second Did You Know Facts regarding the 21St Annual Whale
of a Day event that would take place on Saturday, March 5th at the Point Vicente
Interpretive Center, and highlighted facts about the migration of the Pacific Gray Whale,
which passes by the Palos Verdes Peninsula. He encouraged everyone to come out to
the 21St Annual Whale of a Da Festival, 10:00 A.M. to 4:00 P.M., with free parking at
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RPV City Hall and shuttle service to Point Vicente Interpretive Center. He mentioned
that L.A. County Supervisor Don Knabe, RPV City Council and many staff members
would be attending the festivities. He thanked the Interpretive Center docents and City
staff for providing the slides and information for that evening's Did You Know Facts.
RECYCLE DRAWING
Mayor Clark announced that there are two recycler winners for the month of February
2005: A. Francisco and Lloyd Yuhan ( *check spellings); stated that all winners will
receive a check for $250, which represents a year of free refuse service; and he
encouraged everyone to recycle.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised that she distributed to Council earlier
that evening an addendum to the Agenda, which was posted on Saturday following
Council's workshop, regarding Item No. 16: Proposed technical revisions to the Natural
Communities Conservation Plan (NCCP) and to the NCCP Implementing Agreement.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Mayor pro tem Wolowicz, to approve the
Agenda, excluding Item No. 16. Councilman Stern noted his understanding that the
Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy, which was working on Item 16, was not
prepared to address the matter that evening. Without objection, Mayor Clark so
ordered.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised that she has distributed to Council
earlier that evening a letter from Mr. Downhill relating to the Storm Drain and Flood
Protection Program.
Lois Larue, RPV, commented on an unmarked piece of property near the Seaview area
that is being used as a turn - around area for motorists and advised when it rains, this
activity tracks mud onto the roadway. She commented on the San Pedro Art
Association's sponsoring of the mural painting activities at the port; and urged RPV to
lend its support of the artists working in the Port of Los Angeles area. She commented
on her participation in strength training sessions each week at the senior center.
Jack Downhill, RPV, read the following statement relating to the proposed Storm Drain
and Flood Protection Program: "At the recent meeting of this body when the User Fee
process was approved for funding the subject program, were you aware that: 20 percent
of the properties that would benefit are exempt from the fee; the fee includes a provision
for an annual CPI increase; the fee does not end with project completion; provisions of
Proposition 218 are violated as applied to properties within the RDA; the first year or
two of the program will be paid for by the $2- or $3 million from reserves; Lowe is now
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fully invested in the Long Point property, which validates Dr. Gardiner's
recommendation; and the Public Works consultant has proposed revisions to the
assessment formula. In view of these facts which were or should have been known by
the Council when the decisions were made, I feel strongly that the Council actions were
disingenuous at best and an insult to the intelligence of the RPV citizens. Hence, I
would like to challenge Councilmen Stern, Mayor pro tem Wolowicz, Councilman
Gardiner, the City Manager and the City Attorney to take action to re -visit this subject at
the earliest possible date. I recommend Mayor Clark recuse himself from this action to
avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest stemming from his familial relationship with
the Finance Committee Chair that recommended the User Fee. I suggest also that
Councilman Long recuse himself because, through no fault of his own, his property is
exempt from the User Fee and he has become, de facto, the representative of the 20
percent of property owners exempt from the fee."
Councilman Long explained why he would not be recusing himself from this matter;
stated that it was true that his property drained to a storm drain not owned by the City
and, accordingly, he would not be subject to the User Fee if it passed; advised that he
had made his decision as to whether or not to support the User Fee without regard to
what his own personal /financial interest was and would continue to be; pointed out that
he had only discovered his property would not be subject to the User Fee when Council
was well into the process; that his motivation was not the particular effect upon his
property; and suggested that in Mr. Downhill's case, the motive for his suggestion of a
different means of financing was motivated by the size of his property and how it would
be affected by the User Fee and stated that he should disclose this fact to the public.
Councilman Long pointed out that he also voted for the School District's parcel tax,
even though he and his wife had no children; and stated his decision was based upon
what was in the best interest of the community as a whole. Noting that with all due
respect to Mr. Downhill, he declined to recuse himself — pointing out that he represented
the entire community and that he was making his decision on that basis, not as one of
the 20 percent of residents who would not pay the User Fee. He mentioned that he
asked the City Attorney whether the User Fee could be extended to those properties
which did not drain into the City's storm drains, and that if there was a legal way to do it,
he would support that effort.
Addressing Mayor Clark's inquiry on whether he needed to recuse himself because his
wife was Chair of the Finance Advisory Committee, City Attorney Lynch stated there
was no requirement for Mayor Clark to recuse himself on this matter.
Mayor Clark explained that Council represented the entire community, its members
were elected by the entire community; and stated that he was very comfortable with
participating in this important matter; and pointed out that at the end of the process, the
ultimate decision would be left in the hands of those residents who would be affected by
the fee.
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CITY MANAGER REPORTS
City Manager Evans advised that the sinkhole had been repaired at Western Avenue
and Westmont; and that Caltrans was working on other repairs at Western and
Summerland, believing Western and Summerland would be closed the next day for
repairs. He commented on the recent rainstorms that resulted in approximately 3
inches of water falling in approximately 2.5 hours on Palos Verdes Drive South (PVDS)
on Saturday morning; and stated that this large amount of rainfall overtaxed the
canyons that carry drainage off the slopes between the Portuguese Bend Landslide
area and the City limits of Palos Verdes Estates. He noted that in some areas, the
water overflowed onto the streets, carrying mud and debris into the neighborhoods,
particularly impacting the Seacove neighborhood below St. Peter's by the Sea Church.
With the aid of slides, he advised that at least six homes suffered severe mud and water
damage; and noted the storm peaked around 2:00 A.M. Saturday and that by 3:00 A.M.,
RPV crews were out and clearing the debris from the roads.
Referring to the photographs of the drainage facility at the bottom of McCarrell Canyon
that depicted mud, rock and vegetation backed up against the debris barrier,
Councilman Stern asked when debris had last been cleared from this facility prior to the
storm.
City Manager Evans advised that the debris basin was cleared out on Friday when staff
went home for the weekend; and stated that after every storm this year, Public Works
crews had been out on the streets clearing all inlets and drainage paths, and that
everything was clear of debris and the drains flowing freely at 5:00 P.M. Friday. He
stated the rain started about 1:00 A.M. and lasted until approximately 3:00 A.M; and
City Manager Evans expressed his belief the City was very well prepared for the storm,
but pointed out there was just too much rain in a short period of time.
Referring to the photographs, Mayor pro tem Wolowicz asked about the different
designs of the debris barriers.
City Manager Evans explained that the debris barriers are designed to catch the flowing
debris, keeping debris from flowing into pipes and clogging them; and advised that the
more modern catch basins at other locations were designed differently than this one
and stated that the more modern catch basins did not have these same problems. He
added that the older catch basins needed to be upgraded and modernized.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz noted that part of the costs in the overall Master Storm Drain
Plan addressed the necessary upgrades.
City Manager Evans stated this particular project was considered high priority, and
would include upstream debris basins, a larger inlet structure, a larger pipe under
PVDS, another pipeline to carry the water from PVDS to the bluff top and a slant drain
to carry the water from the top of the bluff to the ocean. City Manager Evans stated that
the City experienced mudslides all over the community, mostly on private properties,
some of which resulted in debris pouring onto the streets; advised that the City was
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aware of 25 slope failures as a result of the rain and that the estimated damage was
close to $1 million. He added that none of the slope failures the City was aware had
caused structural damage to homes, but that there had been patios and a tennis court
that had been partially affected. He urged every resident to keep an eye on their
backyards and neighbors' backyards and to advise the City if they see anything that
looks like a slope failure. He added that staff would visit these affected sites to advise
the residents on how best to handle the problems.
Because Los Angeles County has been declared a disaster area as a result of the rains,
Mayor Clark informed the public that Federal funds might become available.
City Manager Evans advised that the FEMA inspectors were working off lists the City
had provided to it of property owners who had reported property damage related to the
storm; that any property owner who had damage related to the storm was instructed to
contact City offices to be placed on this list and then put in contact with the FEMA
inspectors, who would be inspecting .the damage and giving instructions on how to
apply for Federal grants /loans for their particular case. He noted that this information
was also on the City's website.
On behalf of Council and the residents, Mayor Clark thanked and commended City
Manager Evans, Director Allison and his entire staff and contractors who supported the
Public Works Department for the tremendous efforts, time commitment, dedication and
professionalism that has been exhibited over the past several weeks in responding to
the winter rains.
Director Allison expressed his thanks and appreciation of his staff for their efforts.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz noted his appreciation of City staff for their efforts, noting that
staff members were calling in to volunteer to help out over the weekend following the
severe rainstorm on Saturday morning.
All Council Members echoed these sentiments.
OLD BUSINESS
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised that Old Business can be found on the
City's website at www.palosverdes.com/
NEW BUSINESS
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised that she had distributed late
correspondence related to Item No. 2 on the Consent Calendar - Mayor Clark's
proposed changes to the December 7, 2004 and December 21, 2004 Minutes.
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Motion to Waive Full Reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all Ordinances presented at this meeting
with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all Council Members after
the reading of the title.
Approval of the Minutes (301)
Approved the Minutes of December 4, 2004, December 7, 2004, as amended, and
December 21, 2004, as amended.
Repair of the Tarapaca Storm Drain (604 x 1204)
Reviewed and reconfirmed with a 4 /5ths vote the City Council's previous action on
December 21, 2004, to authorize staff to conduct an informal bid process to repair the
Tarapaca Storm Drain.
Municipal Area Express (MAX) Inter - Agency Agreement (1505)
1) Authorized the City of Rancho Palos Verdes to continue its participation in the
commuter transportation transit service, known as Municipal Area Express (MAX), for
the period of July 1, 2005 to June 30, 2008; and, 2) Authorized the Mayor and City Clerk
to execute the Agreement for MAX Commuter Bus Service on behalf of the City of
Rancho Palos Verdes.
Border Issues Status Report (310)
Reviewed the current status of border issues.
Geotechnical Board of Appeals (201 x 1203)
Approved the appointment of Stanley Helenschmidt of Helenschmidt Geotechnical, Inc.,
to the Geotechnical Board of Appeals.
Commercial Refuse and Collection Agreement with Art's Special Waste, Inc.
(1301)
Authorized the Mayor and the City Clerk to execute a Non - Exclusive Franchise
Agreement for Commercial Refuse Collection and Disposal Services with Art's Special
Waste, Inc., to be effective through December 31, 2005.
Resol. No. 2005 -18: City Owned Crestridge Property (701)
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -18, AFFIRMING THE CITY'S INTENT TO USE
THE CRESTRIDGE PROPERTY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
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January 2005 Treasurer's Report (602)
Received and filed the January 2005 Treasurer's Report for the City of Rancho Palos
Verdes.
Resol. No. 2005 -19: Register of Demands
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -199 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz moved to approve the Consent Calendar as presented.
By way of a friendly amendment to the motion, Councilman Long asked that Item No. 6,
City Tree Review Permit Code Procedure Amendment (Case No. ZON2004- 00160), be
pulled from the Consent Calendar.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz accepted the friendly amendment to his motion. Councilman
Stern seconded the motion. The motion carried as follows:
AYES: Long, Stern, Wolowicz, Mayor Clark
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Gardiner
ITEM PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
Ord. No. 415: City Tree Review Permit Code Procedure Amendment (Case No.
ZON2004- 00160) (1407 x 1801)
The staff report of March 1, 2005, recommended that Council ADOPT ORDINANCE
NO. 415, TO ENACT AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 17 OF THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL
CODE STREAMLINING THE CITY TREE REVIEW PERMIT PROCESS. This
Ordinance was previously introduced at the February 15, 2005 City Council meeting.
Mayor Clark advised that Craig Mueller was the immediate past Chair of the Planning
Commission and welcomed him to this evening's meeting.
Craig Mueller, RPV, stated that he noticed there had been a substantial change in this
item since the Planning Commission considered the item and that he was present at the
meeting that evening not as a member of the Planning Commission, but as a concerned
citizen. He explained that this item,first came before the Planning Commission in June
2004; that the Commission debated this matter and ensured the public and the
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Commission had adequate opportunity to provide input on this issue; and that the
related P.C. Resolution was unanimously passed (6 -0) by the Planning Commission in
favor of the first staff report, which was presented to Council at its last regular meeting.
Mr. Mueller noted his concern that the process followed at the last City Council meeting
was unclear; he noted that Councilman Stern introduced an alternate motion to the item;
and that the City Clerk then asked if any members of the public wanted to speak —
questioning how a member of the public would know what Council was going to be
discussing because there was no public other than the fact that it was an item on the
Council agenda. Because he was out of town during that time, Mr. Mueller stated he
could not participate; and that if staff had notified the public or the Planning Commission
or its Chair, he would have been able to provide some input on the issue before the
Ordinance was introduced. He also stated that the language within the Ordinance
before Council that evening did not reflect the discussion at Council's previous meeting;
he expressed his belief that one critical item was left out; that he firmly believed the
revised Ordinance was unworkable, and that the change would take away the rights of
the property owner who's property directly abuts a City tree.
Mr. Mueller stated that as he understood the Resolution, it included a third party, which
could be a neighbor within the 10 closest properties or a homeowner's association —
pointing out that residents belonging to a homeowners association can live very far from
the subject property and that much more clout was possible when more homes were
involved. He stated that he found the Resolution to be unworkable because it required
an agreement to be recorded against the title of the property that included the City, the
property owner and a third party /homeowners association; that when the property owner
sells that property, the next property owner had no rights at all, that they're not a party
to the original agreement and would have to abide by whatever agreement was in place
— reiterating his belief this took away property rights.
Mr. Mueller stated that the intent following all the discussions was to limit the people
who could adopt the tree to the 10 closest property owners; and that what was in the
amended Resolution also included the homeowners association. He stated that he
would solve this problem the same way they did on the Planning Commission, by
recommending the deletion of all sections referring to the homeowners association
unless they were a party to the agreement; and that he would also recommend deleting
the 10 closest property owners because he believes the intent of the amendment was to
streamline the process. He noted his preference to make the person abutting the right
of way where the tree is located to be the only one to adopt a tree and be responsible
for it, otherwise, the City would have that option; and he respectfully requested if
Council did not agree with his position, that Council consider the other five Planning
Commissioners who voted along with him on the Resolution, believing it was the only
workable solution.
Mayor Clark mentioned that because of business commitments out of state, he was not
present at the last Council meeting when this matter was discussed.
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Councilman Stern noted his appreciation of Mr. Mueller's comments; advised that he
read the Planning Commission minutes related to this matter; and explained why he
suggested that Council broaden this Resolution. He stated that it was his understanding
that the Planning Commission's action limited it so that the abutting property owner of
the tree could agree to maintain the tree, but if that person did not want the
responsibility, the tree would be removed; and that it was his suggestion that if others in
the neighborhood were willing to maintain the tree instead and the abutting property
owner was indifferent, the neighbors should have that ability. He agreed with Mr.
Mueller's comment that this would be a binding agreement, just like any other
agreement, but highlighted the very next paragraph which stated "should the property
owner who has entered into an agreement with the City to maintain a City tree or foliage
within 30 days of receiving a notice of the City requesting maintenance fail to adhere to
the maintenance provisions of the agreement, then the City shall terminate the
agreement and shall remove the subject tree." He stated that the parties could opt out
at just about any point, and that he did not view this as having any coercive aspects,
and that it was consensual at every step, both in the initiation and in the follow- through.
Councilman Stern stated that he was troubled by the suggestion that anytime Council
makes a decision that was different or amended the position taken by the Planning
Commission's recommendation, that the City should re- notice the matter; and pointed
out that the whole purpose of agendizing something was to give the public not only the
opportunity to address the item, but also the ability to offer any suggested changes or
refinements.
Mr. Mueller expressed his belief that if there was a substantial change to the original
Resolution, the matter should be continued to allow for further public and Planning
Commission input. He reiterated that his interpretation of the Planning Commission's
decision was to limit the decision to the 10 closest homes and that there was no
mention of the homeowners association (HOA).
Councilman Long stated that it was his initial desire to adopt what the Planning
Commission had recommended; that he was initially concerned about expanding the
scope of who had input into the fate of the street tree; and that the concern was the
adjoining property owner to the tree shouldn't have the tree essentially forced on them if
they wanted it removed. He stated that initially, he did not want to voluntarily accept the
proposal to expand the list of parties that could take over maintenance of the tree, but
felt that his concerns had now been addressed.
Councilman Long expressed his belief that what Council ended up adopting was the
concept that, if the adjoining property owner wanted to preserve the tree, he /she could
agree to maintain it; if the adjoining property owner wanted the tree removed, the tree
would be removed and that the adjoining property owner had final control over the
matter. If the adjoining property owner, however, was indifferent to the tree remaining,
but did not want to pay to maintain it, that Councilman Stern's amendment would allow
the HOA or a limited number of the immediate neighbors to enter into an agreement
with the City to maintain the tree instead. Councilman Long liked what Councilman
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Stern had proposed because in the end, it provided some structure for situations when
the adjoining homeowners took no position about the fate of the tree; stated that he did
not view this as a major change from what the Planning Commission had recommended
because the principle was that the adjoining land owner had the final say; and if the
adjoining land owner says the tree stays and he /she pays for it, it stays, and if he /she
says it goes, it goes.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz concurred with Councilman Long's comments.
Mayor Clark asked the Council if it would be interested in remanding this item back to
the Planning Commission for further review before Council took final action on this
matter.
Councilman Stern stated that he saw no benefit in doing that; expressed his belief that
the Planning Commission did a very good job in evaluating this item; and that while he
disagreed with the ultimate conclusion, he echoed Councilman Long's comment that the
change he had proposed was minor. He stated it still was the abutting land owner who
had the final say and that no one would be forced to accept anything; that this would
give the neighbors an opportunity to know of the proposal and perhaps reach an
acceptable solution for the neighborhood with the abutting landowner; that this was a
better way to keep the neighborhood involved if it so chooses and that it does nothing to
impede the land owner's ability to make their own decision; and he expressed his belief
that what Council achieved was a better result for the neighborhood, as well as all
concerned parties.
Mayor pro tern Wolowicz stated that he had received some emails and other
correspondence over the prior several months from homeowners who felt trees were
taken out of their neighborhoods against their wishes and they had no opportunity to
provide their input into the decision; and that this amendment would expand the number
of people who would have some say in these matters.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Mayor pro tem Wolowicz, to adopt Ordinance
No. 415.
Mayor Clark stated that because he was not present for the previous discussion, he
would abstain from voting on this matter. He noted his appreciation for Mr. Mueller's
input that evening.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz asked if the Council should adopt the Ordinance that evening,
or if it should be brought back to Council after City Attorney Lynch had an opportunity to
review the Ordinance language to determine if anything was found to be out of context.
City Attorney Lynch stated she and Mr. Alvarez were confident from reviewing their
notes that the language in the Ordinance was the language that Council had previously
given staff direction on, that Council's intent was ultimately to make it clear that the
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property owner abutting the right of way where the street tree was located had the final
say.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: Long, Stern, Wolowicz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Clark
ABSENT: Gardiner
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Appeal of the Planning Commission's denial of a Height Variation (Case No.
ZON2004- 00087), for property located at 28129 Ella Road [Appellant: Moss and
Associates, on behalf of Jamie Anvaripour] [Applicant: Stan Anderson, for AEG
Architects; Property Owner: Jamie Anvaripour] (1804 x 1203)
The staff report of March 1, 2005, recommended that the Council continue this public
hearing to April 5, 2005.
Mayor Clark opened the public hearing.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Long, to continue this matter to
April 5, 2005. Without objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
RECESS AND RECONVENE
Mayor Clark recessed the meeting at 8:07 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 8:24
P.M.
Code Amendment (Case No. ZON2004- 00530): Draft Geologic Disclosure
Ordinance (Continued hearing from October 5, 2004) (1801 x 1203)
Senior Planner Fox presented staff report and the recommendation to 1) Conduct a
public hearing; and, 2) INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE TO ENACT THE GEOLOGIC
DISCLOSURE ORDINANCE.
Councilman Stern expressed his approval of the changes proposed by the Planning
Commission; and questioned what, if any, flexibility existed in the Ordinance in terms of
modifying the language of the draft covenant that would allow for staff to make minor
modifications on a case -by -case basis to deal with a particular property.
Addressing Councilman Stern's inquiry, City Attorney Lynch stated there was flexibility
in the ordinance to make modifications in the proposed covenant language.
Mayor Clark noted his concurrence with the Planning Commission's proposed changes.
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Mayor Clark opened the public hearing. There being no request for input, Mayor Clark
closed the public hearing.
Senior Planner Fox advised that he received only one inquiry by telephone and that he
had received no written comments related to this matter.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Long, to introduce Ordinance No.
416, to enact the Geologic Disclosure Ordinance.
Mayor Clark complimented Councilman Stern for bringing this initiative forward to the
Council, pointing out this was another good example of the extra efforts put forth by the
various members of Council.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz and Councilman Long echoed the Mayor's compliments.
The motion carried as follows:
AYES: Long, Stern, Wolowicz, Mayor Clark
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Gardiner
CITY COUNCIL ORAL REPORTS
Councilman Long indicated that he attended the last two Saturday Council meetings, a
budget workshop and an emergency meeting to tour of some of the properties damaged
in the February 19th storm.
Councilman Stern indicated that he had nothing new to report other than the two
Saturday meetings mentioned by Councilman Long.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz highlighted the following events /meetings he attended:
February 16th attended, along with the president of the School District Board and
president of the Library Board, the Palos Verdes Mayor's lunchtime meeting,
exchanging information that was important to the Peninsula communities. February
17th attended the Palos Verdes Transit Authority budget workshop, adding that the
board was made up of representatives from RPV, Palos Verdes Estates, and Rolling
Hills Estates. February 19th, along with Mayor Clark, City Manager Evans and Director
of Public Works Allison, attended an all -day session, visiting neighborhoods to see the
water damage caused by the storms; and then participating in an emergency Council
meeting, which also included a tour of the damaged sites. He stated he saw first hand
how inadequate storm drains can impact a community during and after a severe storm;
and highlighted the outpouring of volunteers and the Fire Department who were helping
those in need to clean up the debris and mud from their homes and property and to put
out sandbags. February 21St met with representatives of AMR to address the City's
ambulance service, which was provided through the County. February 22nd attended,
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along with Councilman Long, the PVIC native plant garden dedication with Sunset
Rotary. February 23rd attended the Palos Verdes Chamber of Commerce mixer at an
area restaurant. February 24th attended the South Bay Council of Governments Annual
Assembly at the Norris Pavilion in Rolling Hills Estates, which addressed energy
conservation; and noted his interest in Council discussing ideas the City and its
residents could implement to realize energy savings. February 25th attended, along with
Mayor Clark and Ken Dyda, the subcommittee meeting regarding development of the
Crestridge /Crenshaw property. February 26th attended a special Council meeting to
discuss storm drain improvements.
Mayor Clark advised that he has been out of town for the past two weeks and thanked
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz for leading the Council meetings in his absence. He thanked
and commended Council and staff for their efforts and participation in dealing with the
storm - related activities and for their participation in the Council meetings on February
19th and 26th.
REGULAR NEW BUSINESS
Equestrian Committee (1808)
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru advised that late correspondence had been
distributed to Council that evening in regard to this matter.
Associate Planner Blumenthal presented the staff report and the recommendation to
provide staff with direction on the status of the Equestrian Committee.
Councilman Stern asked why the Equestrian Committee's meetings in December and
January were cancelled.
Associate Planner Blumenthal stated that several members of the Committee took ill in
January 2005; and noted that due to the lack of business to address in December 2004,
the Committee adjourned its November meeting to January. He added there had been
a quorum at all other meetings and that there had been regular attendance by most
Committee members.
Gordon Leon, RPV, Chairman of the Equestrian Committee, provided a presentation
highlighting the Committee's activities in 2004. With the aid of slides, he presented an
overview of the Committee's duties /responsibilities, its charter and some of the trails in
the City that merited preservation. He advised there were and continued to be a
number of issues associated with the trails; stating that of major interest to the
Committee was the conceptual plan for the Equestrian Park; and commented on some
proposed additions to the existing Charter.
Mr. Leon pointed out there was no specific Committee assigned to oversee trail issues;
and advised that there were a number of discussions within the Committee associated
with balancing equestrian and non - equestrian issues, site planning, trails and other
equestrian uses within the City. He mentioned that the Committee was asked by
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Council to look into preservation of equestrian capabilities within the Equestrian Overlay
District (Q District); noted that the Committee had sent a proposal to the Planning
Commission to require a minimum horse - keeping area for each lot in the Q District, but
that the Committee's proposal was voted down by the Planning Commission. He
advised that the Committee had continued to look for ways to both maintain the
capability for horse - keeping within the Q District while not imposing an unreasonable
burden on the homeowners, which continued to be an active discussion on the
Equestrian Committee.
Mr. Leon pointed out the importance of preserving the trails within the City and the
equestrian access network; advised that there were many areas within the City where
horseback riders had to traverse the streets and in some cases - with the permission of
private property owners - private property in order to be able to have access through the
City and to connect many of the equestrian properties with the open space areas. Mr.
Leon explained that on several occasions, the Committee had provided technical
assistance to the Public Works Department for trail and roadway improvements,
pointing out the Committee's recommendation to improve the type of asphalt used in
roadway construction to reduce slippery conditions for both pedestrians and their
horses. He added that on several occasions, the Committee members had made site
visits to address the issue of private encroachments into the trails and public right -of-
ways; and commented on the Committee's ongoing effort to provide technical advice on
safety issues associated with the combined use of trails by bicycles, pedestrians and
equestrian. He also noted the Committee's assistance with the Emergency
Preparedness Committee, providing input on the emergency evacuation of large and
small domestic animals within RPV.
Mr. Leon stated that the most significant item in 2004 was the Committee's role as
advisory body to City Council in making recommendations for the Equestrian Park
Conceptual Plan; advised that the Committee had recommended that it be used as a
public oversight Committee for the Equestrian Park's development, operation and
management; he addressed the needed preservation of the equestrian capabilities
within the Q District; noted there have been a number of development proposals in the
Q District; and highlighted his concern with the potential of development within those
areas that could change the nature of the Q District from one of semi -rural open space
to one of semi - urbanization. He noted his desire that the Equestrian Committee
continue to be permitted to provide the technical advice to maintain the capability of
equestrian usage within the Q District and that Council maintain the Equestrian
Committee as the City's focus for all equestrian issues. Mr. Leon added that the
Committee's interest in including within its Charter issues related to mixed -use trails
within RPV; that the Committee continued as the technical advisory body on equestrian
issues and preservation of the Q District; and that it be given oversight and
management of any future Equestrian Park. He expressed his belief that the Equestrian
Committee was committed to the City's General Plan goal to maintain the unique
character of the semi -rural lifestyle within RPV.
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Councilman Stern asked that Mr. Leon communicate to the Equestrian Committee
members the. Council's appreciation of their work on the Committee. Councilman Stern
questioned if any particular committee had previously handled trail issues.
Deputy Planning Director Pfost recalled that the former Trails Committee had held this
responsibility; and advised that the City's Conceptual Trails Plan was scheduled to be
updated in the near future.
Highlighting the multiuse of many trails, Councilman Stern asked Mr. Leon why he
believed the Equestrian Committee should have jurisdiction over trails.
Mr. Leon expressed his belief that the Equestrian Committee would consider all users of
the trails; explained that by their nature, most of the trails were in the open space area
in the City; and stated if he were to guess on the number of miles of City -owned and
informal trails, he believed that there were more miles of mixed use trails in the Q
Districts than there were trails that limited to only equestrian use.
Councilman Stern pointed out that the equestrian, bikes, and pedestrian trail users did
not always have the same interests in terms of who should use the trails.
Mr. Leon stated that the Committee was requesting to focus on all equestrian issues in
the City, which would include large animal permits and any kind of issue where there
were conflicts between equestrian and non - equestrian usage.
With regard to the Equestrian Committee Charter, Mayor pro tem Wolowicz noted the
Committee's current advisory position on technical matters relating to Q District and
questioned if the Committee had specific ideas in mind that had not been addressed
under technical issues in its report.
Mr. Leon pointed out that most of those items were addressed as they came up; he
highlighted, for instance, an issue coming to focus at that time regarding moving the
boundary line between open space hazard zones and residential zoning districts, he
indicated that the Equestrian Committee was taking a look at the implications these
modifications would have on trails located at the bottom of canyons and whether that
was going to impact in any way the equestrian usage of those particular trails which are
in the Q District.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz asked what the Committee considered to be equestrian issues
and whether the Committee was proposing to expand those items.
With regard to the proposed equestrian park, Mr. Leon explained that the Committee
was given the task of bringing a proposal forward to the Recreation Parks Open Space
Task Force; advised that the Committee prepared a proposal and presented it to the
Task Force, but that the proposal did not go anywhere at that level and ultimately did
not get to Council. He explained that this was the reason the Committee had come
directly to Council; and stated that the Committee's activities would work more efficiently
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if it was not parceled out to only make recommendations to other Commissions and
Committees.
In response to Mayor pro tem Wolowicz's inquiry regard the continuation of monthly
meetings, Mr. Leon expressed his belief that monthly meetings provide a degree of
continuity that it would not have if the Committee were to meeting every other month;
and asked that the monthly meeting format be maintained.
Responding to Mayor Clark's inquiry regarding the length of the Committee meetings,
Mr. Leon stated that the Committee tired to end the meetings by 9:00 P.M., noting that
most of the meetings held in 2004 ran after 9:00 P.M.
Richard Bara, RPV, Vice - Chairman of the Equestrian Committee, concurred with Mr.
Leon's comment that there was no specific body to address trail issues; and expressed
the Committee's belief that, at least temporarily, trail issues should be assigned to the
Equestrian Committee; and that as other bodies get reformed, perhaps then the
Equestrian Committee could share the responsibility for trail issues. Mr. Bara advised
that the Committee had taken the initiative to address trail issues; and that in several
instances of encroachments into trails, repositioning of trails by private citizens, etc., the
Equestrian Committee had gotten involved and managed to save a couple trails from
becoming lost. He stated there had been some issues that had come up in the Public
Works Department, wherein certain requests having to do with trails were approved,
which the Equestrian Committee found out about after the fact; and he urged Council to
put in place some type of mechanism or procedure that would involve the Equestrian
Committee's input prior to that staff making decisions that concerned trails; and that if a
request was made in an equestrian zone related to trails, that it be routed through the
Equestrian Committee for input.
Addressing Mayor Clark's inquiry regarding the Committee's preference to continue, Mr.
Bara stated it was the full Committee's desire to continue and for the Committee's
duties and responsibilities to be expanded.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz stated that he was grateful for the accomplishments of the
Committee's agenda and efforts.
Mr. Bara, in response to Mayor pro tern Wolowicz' inquiry, concurred with Mr. Leon's
statement that there was enough work to keep the Equestrian Committee busy on a
month -to -month basis over the next year.
On behalf of Council and the community, Mayor Clark thanked Mr. Leon and Mr. Bara
for their leadership on the Equestrian Committee and thanked its members for their
contributions.
Councilman Stern asked what the attitude was of the Planning Commission at its
October 26th meeting on the issue dealing with preservation of horse keeping in the Q
District.
Associate Planner Blumenthal advised that the Equestrian Committee presented a
Code Amendment recommending to the Planning Commission to maintain
approximately 400 to 800 square feet of undeveloped area on each lot for horses, but
that the Planning Commission felt that would be too burdensome on property owners
and would limit property owners from being able to construct additions; and that it could
possibly force some property owners to install second -story additions instead of first -
story additions, thus creating view impacts. Associate Planner Blumenthal advised that
the Commission had recommended the Equestrian Committee's proposal be forwarded
to the City's Development Standards Committee for consideration.
Councilman Stern expressed his belief there was justification for continuing the
Equestrian Committee; with regard to the scope /duties within the Charter, he noted his
preference for staff to study those issues addressed and to bring a report back to
Council for consideration. He concurred with the speakers that there was no advisory
body formally charged with overseeing trail issues, but added that he was not convinced
that the Equestrian Committee was the proper body to be charged with that duty.
Councilman Long echoed the sentiments to continue with the existence of the
Equestrian Committee and expressed his belief that public trails, in a broad sense, was
a recreational issue.
Addressing Mayor Clark's inquiry regarding the disbanding of the Trails Committee,
Assistant City Manager /City Clerk Petru recalled the this advisory body was disbanded
soon after the Council adopted the original Conceptual Trails Plan in 1991; advised that
the City went through a series of cutbacks and layoffs in 1991 and 1992; and that the
Committee ended because of the lack of funding for a staff liaison. She added that the
responsibility for trails at that point in time was transferred from the Recreation and
Parks Department to the Planning Department.
Mayor Clark stated that all trail users have legitimate interest in the trails; and noted his
preference in having more reflection by staff and Council on the proposed expanded
duties of the Equestrian Committee and on trail issues in general.
Councilman Long moved, seconded by Councilman Stern, to continue the existence of
the Equestrian Committee for another year, to March 2006; that staff agendize for
discussion in the near future the Charter of the Equestrian Committee, including both
the scope of its responsibilities and the frequency of its meetings; and that staff bring
back to Council at an appropriate time interviews /appointments for any expiring terms
on the Equestrian Committee, including the Chair. Without objection, Mayor Clark so
ordered.
Council reiterated its appreciation of the efforts by the Equestrian Committee members.
Resol. No. 2005 -20: Resolution to the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors
Requesting Fair and Non - arbitrary Review of Sheriffs Costs to Tax Payers of
Contract Cities (1102 x 1206)
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The March 1, 2005 staff report indicated that Mayor Pro Tern Wolowicz had requested
the City Council to consider adopting a Resolution requesting the Los Angeles County
Board of Supervisors make a complete and thorough review of all aspects of costs and
expense related to the Sheriffs delivery of services to contract cities.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz advised that the wording in the recommendation came from
California Contract Cities regarding Contract Law Enforcement Service Costs; he stated
that the County had come up with a plan to recompute how overhead costs are
allocated to contract cities in order to increase revenues to the County, noting that
Sheriff Baca was opposed to this plan. He added that Contract Cities was
recommending that the City send a resolution to the County and that the Council also
send letters to each of the County Supervisors indicating the City's opposition to this
plan. He explained that if the County were to charge contract cities more, some cities
would modify their contracts to keep the dollar amount the same, but cut back on the
level of law enforcement services in their communities.
Mayor pro tem Wolowicz moved, seconded by Councilman Long, ADOPTING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005 -20; REQUESTING THAT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAKE A COMPLETE AND THOROUGH REVIEW OF
ALL ASPECTS OF COSTS AND EXPENSES RELATED TO THE SHERIFF'S
DELIVERY OF SERVICES TO CONTRACT CITIES. Without objection, Mayor Clark so
ordered.
Mayor Clark thanked Mayor pro tem Wolowicz for bringing this matter forward.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
City Attorney Lynch advised that Council did not take any final action but did give
direction to her office with respect to negotiations regarding potential settlement of the
Chiles matter; and that Council authorized, 3/0 (Councilmen Gardiner and Long absent),
to petition the California Court of Appeal hearing in the Monks case.
Mayor Clark asked that thoughts and prayers be sent to 53rd District Assemblyman Mike
Gordon on a speedy recovery from a brain tumor.
ADJOURNMENT
At 9:35 P.M. Councilman Stern moved to adjourn the meeting to 9:00 A.M., Saturday,
March 12, 2005, in the Community Room at City Hall for a Budget Policy Issues
Workshop. There being not objection, Mayor Clark so ordered.
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