RDA MINS 20000801 MINUTES
RANCHO PALOS VERDES REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 1, 2000
The meeting was called to order at 7:26 P.M. by Chair Byrd at Fred Hesse Community Park,
29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
PRESENT: Ferraro, McTaggart, Stern, and Chair Byrd
ABSENT: Lyon
Also present were Executive Director Les Evans; Assistant Executive Director Carolynn Petru;
Agency Attorney Carol Lynch; Planning, Building & Code Enforcement Director Joel Rojas;
Director of Public Works Dean Allison; Finance Director Dennis McLean; Director of
Administrative Services/Agency Secretary Jo Purcell; and, Recording Secretary Jackie Drasco.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Member Ferraro moved, seconded by Member Stern, to approve the agenda as presented.
Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Member Ferraro moved, seconded by Member Stern, to approve the Consent Calendar as
follows:
Minutes (301)
Approved the minutes of July 5, 2000.
June 2000 Treasurer's Report (602 x 1900)
Received and filed.
Resol. No RDA 2000-09 - Register of Demands (602 x 1900)
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-09, A RESOLUTION OF THE RANCHO PALOS
VERDES REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AND
SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Ferraro, McTaggart, Stern and Chair Byrd
NOES: None
ABSENT: Lyon
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Abalone Cove Sewer and Storm Drain Project (1204 x 1900 x 604)
Agency Secretary Purcell announced that late correspondence had been received from Zeiser
Kling, Chris & Laura Haber, Dave Ruth, Stephen W, Case, the Portuguese Bend Community
Association; David N. Turner, Tim & Joan Kelly, Bill Griffin and Maureen Griffin. (Said
correspondence is on file with the Agency Secretary's Office.)
Director Allison presented the staff report of August 1, 2000 and the recommendation to: (1)
Award a project to construct the Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements to Colich and Sons, Inc.,
for an amount not to exceed $4,775,926, and authorize staff to spend an additional $334,074
for anticipated extra items of work for a total authorization of$5,110,000. (2) Award a
professional service contract to Harris and Associates for an amount not to exceed $200,000 for
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inspection services for the Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements. (3) Award a professional
service contract to SA Associates, Inc. for an amount not to exceed $40,000, for inspection
services for the Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements. (4) Award a professional service contract
to Consoer Townsend Environdyne for an amount not to exceed $20,000 for engineering
services for the Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements. (5) Award a professional service contract
to Willdan Associates for an amount not to exceed $ 10,000 for engineering services for the
Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements.
Director Allison reported that one of the letters received after the agenda packet was prepared
was correspondence from the geologist.
Board discussion focused on the funding for the sewer project and the fact that there would not
be sufficient funds to complete the storm drain project.
Director Allison stated that the geologist felt that the Altamira Canyon storm channel
improvements would provide the most slide mitigation. He said that the road would not have to
be excavated again if the project were completed some time after the sewer project was
complete.
Director Allison explained that contacting the contractor for the sewer project to ask for price
reductions before the contract was awarded would corrupt the bid procedure. He estimated that
it would take three to four months to re-advertise the job with a delay of beginning the job to
spring 2001. Mr. Allison said that staff felt would be advantageous to award the contract as
advertised or to re-advertise the project.
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City Attorney Lynch concurred.
Director Allison explained that the sewer project was approximately $1.6 million short of
sufficient funds and that the storm drain project would require funding of another $1.5 million.
Board discussion then centered on the amount of liability insurance required and the increased
amount needed because the contractor would be working on private property.
Lois Larue, 3136 Barkentine Road, disagreed with the designation of Abalone Cove as the area
in which the sewer project was being proposed and she disagreed that the slide is active in only
some sections of Abalone Cove. She urged the Board to consider safety when making a
decision about digging deep trenches.
Mike Childs, 11 Figtree Road, read from a prepared statement describing past research
regarding this sewer project. He urged the Board to consider the potential dangers of
proceeding. He noted that installation of sewers was fourth on the list of mitigation suggested
by the panel of experts and that the storm drain project was second on the list and in jeopardy
of not being accomplished. He was concerned that the bid from the contractor was so much
lower than the others, questioned the quality of work that would be performed, and hoped that
poor quality work would not result in high maintenance costs which taxpayers would have to
pay. He asked if Los Angeles County would be responsible for maintenance costs. He was
concerned about the deep trenches proposed to be dug and felt that a full geological study was
needed and the consideration of other landslide abatement projects. (A copy of Mr. Child's
comments is on file with the Agency Secretary's Office.)
Jack Downhill, 20 Vanderlip Drive, felt that the project had been well represented and that
because of the time and effort expended, it should go forth. He said that the original project did
not encompass the entire area but provided sewers only in areas of land movement and
possibly there could be a savings in reducing the scope of the work. He felt that installation of
sewers might encourage development or at least that Zone 2 would be dealt with in a different
way.
Marianne Hunter, 31 Narcissa Drive, asked how the decision to install the sewers was made in
connection with the moratorium. She assumed there would be an incentive and/or penalty to
keep the contractors working quickly so that the trenches would be open a minimum amount of
time. She asked who was responsible for a system failure or damage to homes if this project
caused land movement and said that she would prefer to keep her septic tank. She urged the
Board to take a conservative approach to allay the fears of homeowners.
Director Allison explained that a district would be created to which property owners would pay
an annual maintenance fee and that the contractor had a performance bond for prompt
completion of the project and a warranty to cover repairs in the first year.
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Alan Mendel, 10554 Wyton Drive, Los Angeles, CA 90024, said that he owned a lot on Fig
Tree and was in favor on sewer installation.
John Monks, 32200 Schooner Drive, said that he was a landowner in the Portuguese Bend
area and that he was in favor of the sewer project. He said that the same issues have been
debated many times and he thought that after the liens were removed, there would be less
opposition. He felt that the longer the project was delayed the more expensive installation
would become and he felt it would be good for the Santa Monica Bay to eliminate the septic
tanks.
Board consensus was that installing sewers for the homes in the areas where the land was
stable would assure that septic tank water would not enter the landslide causing additional land
movement even in the stable areas and to provide modern amenities as well. It was argued,
however, that perhaps the money could be better spent on dewatering wells.
Chris Haber, 11 Plumtree Road, said that he had been following the project since 1995 and had
not heard of a smaller scope project. He felt the sewer system was the best way to keep water
out of the slide, was aware of the years of study behind this project and funds set aside, and
urged the Board to approve the contract so that the major excavation could be completed
before the rainy season. He said it was his understanding that a few of the dewatering wells
are doing most of the work and some are not successful.
Ted Polich, 547 W. 140th Street, Gardena, CA 90248, representing Colich & Sons, the staff
recommended, stated that the City could be assured of quality work because the company had
been in business for over fifty years and could furnish references from many large cities and
counties in California. He said that the owner lived in Rancho Palos Verdes, was familiar with
the area, and had done a lot of work on the peninsula, which might have accounted for his
ability to bid lower. He explained that his company would have their workers' safety and cost
efficiency in mind and therefore would backfill behind the excavation to reduce the possibility of
land movement.
Mike Childs returned to the podium to describe his memory of how the project was expanded.
He said that the entire community was to pay for the sewers for some of the homes and Sharon
Hegetschweiler suggested in an audience participation portion of a February 1993 Technical
Panel meeting that a larger project would benefit the whole community and be more equitable.
He said that this was documented in public record.
RECESS & RECONVENE:
At 8:30 P.M., Chair Byrd declared a recess. The meeting reconvened at 8:42 P.M.
Board discussion then focused on whether there should e a policy to use General Fund money
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to make up for the shortfall for this project; and, if financial assistance could be sought from the
County. Reference was then made to a July 30, 1996 letter stating that dewatering wells were
the first priority for slide mitigation, however, the funds from the Horan bonds were almost
depleted.
City Manager Evans explained that even though installation of the dewatering wells was
relatively inexpensive, they had not been effective in all cases. He suggested that the contract
for the sewer project should be awarded or if the Board decided not to award this contract, the
design for the Altamira Canyon drainage project be completed, wait for all permits to be
approved and then advertise for this contract. He advised against returning to the study mode.
He said that there is no guarantee that any of these projects will improve the landslide but they
probably would help. He said that in his opinion the sewer project would have a positive impact
on the slide and that replacing the septic tanks would be good for health and public safety.
Board discussion continued about the efficacy of the dewatering wells versus the Altamira
Canyon storm drain project; how some of the wells are more effective than others; the fact that
the existing septic tanks are constantly leaking into the slide; the necessity of the Altamira
Canyon project in the overall landslide abatement process; the approvals from residents and
state agencies required to proceed with that project; the County bonds which would pay for the
sewer project; that this sewer project would enable homeowners to add a bathroom or another
sink without the current requirement of having to install a holding tank; and, the fact that this
project has been studied for many years resulting in increased costs. Concern, however, was
expressed about the time and effort already expended on this project; the balance remaining
from the Horan settlement; and, if the funds had been spent wisely.
Member McTaggart moved, seconded by Member Ferraro, to (1) Awarded a project to construct
the Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements to Colich and Sons, Inc., for an amount not to exceed
$4,775,926, and authorize staff to spend an additional $334,074 for anticipated extra items of
work for a total authorization of$5,110,000. (2) Awarded a professional service contract to
Harris and Associates for an amount not to exceed $200,000 for inspection services for the
Abalone Cove Sewer Improvements. (3) Awarded a professional service contract to SA
Associates, Inc. for an amount not to exceed $40,000, for inspection services for the Abalone
Cove Sewer Improvements. (4) Awarded a professional service contract to Consoer Townsend
Environdyne for an amount not to exceed $20,000 for engineering services for the Abalone
Cove Sewer Improvements. (5) Awarded a professional service contract to Willdan Associates
for an amount not to exceed $10,000 for engineering services for the Abalone Cove Sewer
Improvements.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Ferraro, McTaggart, Stern, and Chair Byrd
NOES: None
ABSENT: Lyon
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Member McTaggart moved, seconded by Member Ferraro to (1) Agendize for the September 5
City Council meeting discussion of a Council policy to decide whether to use General Fund
money to find a mechanism to fund drainage projects. (2) Have Chair Byrd and Member
McTaggart contact Supervisor Don Knabe to inquire about financial assistance from Los
Angeles County. Motion carried.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 P.M. on the motion on Chair Byrd.
Chair
Attest:
Agency Secretary
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