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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 21, 2006
The meeting was called to order at 7:01 P.M. by Mayor Wolowicz at Fred Hesse
Community Park, 29301 Hawthorne Boulevard.
City Council roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Clark, Gardiner, Long, Stern and Mayor Wolowicz
ABSENT: None
Also present were Les Evans, City Manager; Carolynn Petru, Assistant City
Manager/City Clerk; David Snow, Assistant City Attorney; Dennis McLean, Director of
Finance/Information Technology; Jim Bell, Director of Public Works; Lauren Ramezani,
Senior Administrative Analyst; Richard Tagore-Erwin, R3 Consulting; Greg Pfost,
Deputy Director of Planning; Gina Park, Assistant to the City Manager; and Ted
Vegvari, Palos Verdes on the Net.
FLAG SALUTE:
The Flag Salute was led by Mayor Wolowicz.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Moved by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilman Gardiner to approve the
Agenda as presented. Hearing no objection, Mayor Wolowicz so ordered.
MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Wolowicz presented a picture of a storm drain in need of repair.
Responding to an inquiry from Councilman Stern, Public Works Director Bell stated that
he had seen some reports as of 2002 indicating that as much of 70% of the City had
failed pipes and the rains of 2005 further exacerbated the situation and increased the
corrosion.
Mayor Wolowicz announced the City of Hermosa Beach's 100th Anniversary on January
14, 2007.
City Manager Evans presented a history of City Managers in Rancho Palos Verdes from
1973-2006.
RECYCLE DRAWING:
Mayor Wolowicz announced recyclers of the month Robert Ewing and Gary Callies. He
indicated that all winners received a check for$250 representing a year of free refuse
service and he urged everyone to participate in the City's recycling program.
City Manager Evans presented a check to Mayor Wolowicz for $250 for winning the
recycling drawing last month.
Mayor Wolowicz thanked the City and indicated he and his wife were working on a way
to help the City with the money.
Mayor Wolowicz read a letter from Mrs. Walter Schneider who thanked the City for her
check when she won the recycling drawing.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru reported that there were no requests to speak.
CITY COUNCIL ORAL REPORTS:
Councilman Stern reported attending an event for outgoing City Manager Les Evans on
Saturday, November 18th. On November 20th he attended the appellant argument in the
Indian Ridge matter and based upon his impression of the proceedings, he was not
concerned that the court would get it wrong.
Mayor Pro Tem Long reported attending the retirement function for City Manager
Evans, holiday functions for the League of Women Voters and the Council of
Homeowners Associations, and the Los Angeles Current Affairs Forum where County
Supervisor Zev Yaroslaysky spoke. He also reported meeting with residents in his
neighborhood who are looking to form a voluntary homeowners association for the
Peninsula Center area. He added that resident Whitney Young tragically died in a
recent accident and he commended her parents for donating her organs to help others.
Councilman Clark reported attending the California Coastal Commission monthly
meeting November 15th through the 17th and the League of California Cities League
Leaders meeting November 17th and 18th with the State Board of Directors, the Policy
Chairs, Region Presidents and Vice Presidents and senior staff present to do strategic
planning of key goals for the coming year. He reported that identified goals included
actively pursuing with state legislature reasoned statutory reform for eminent domain,
continuing to pursue housing accessibility and affordability in the state, and
infrastructure renewal. He also indicated that he attended at the Council's retirement
dinner for City Manager Les Evans.
Councilman Gardiner reported that he and Mayor Pro Tem Long had attended a
meeting with staff examining heath benefits, as well as the RPV Channel 33 Committee
meeting and reported that work is in progress on both issues.
Mayor Wolowicz reported that on November 9th he and Councilman Stern attended the
Palos Verdes Peninsula Regional Law Enforcement meeting. He also hosted a Boy
Scout Pack that day and spoke to them about government and civics and what it means
to be a good citizen. He reported attending the Palos Verdes Transit Authority meeting
where he turned over the gavel of Chair and indicated that Los Angeles County would
be decreasing its funding to the Authority over the next ten years and any shortfalls
would be the responsibility of the participating cities.
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On November 10th Mayor Wolowicz reported attending the Mayor's Breakfast with the
Chairs of the City's various Committees and Commissions. On the same day, Mayor
Wolowicz reported attending the Palos Verdes League of Women Voters meeting at the
Point Vicente Interpretive Center where he recognized Volunteer of the Year Nominee
Betty Reidman, and Gabriella Holt was recognized by SCROC. On November 13th, he
attended a public hearing conducted by the City of Rolling Hills Estates regarding
rezoning the Peninsula Center and he expressed his concerns about the impact of the
proposed 900 new residential units on Rancho Palos Verdes residents.
On November 15th, Mayor Wolowicz reported attended a meeting of the South Bay
Mayors and the Council of Homeowners Associations holiday party. On November 16th
he reported attending the South Bay Cities Council of Governments regional meeting
and one of the main issues presented was the Long Beach and Los Angeles Harbors
Joint Effort Clean Air Plan. There was also much discussion about the extension of the
green line into the south bay and an announcement of a free holiday light exchange to
replace old light strings with new more efficient strings.
On November 17 Mayor Wolowicz attended a meeting regarding the Crestridge Project
with the developers, property owner, Ken Dyda and City staff. The developers were
concerned with shrinking margins and were looking for concessions and Mayor
Wolowicz expressed support for the Senior Center. He added that he also had
attended Les Evans' retirement party and as well as the installation of Lomita Mayor
Mark Warnick.
Mayor Pro Tem Long reported filling in for Mayor Wolowicz at the Peninsula Mayors
lunch where there were representatives from all four cites and the school district. They
discussed his request for support from the Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission
and staff has crafted a letter formally asking for support.
Responding to Councilman Gardiner, Mayor Pro Tem Long reported that the School
Board President indicated that she would check into the status of a reply to Mayor
Wolowicz's letter.
Councilman Gardiner complimented Karen Peterson on the tour she provided to the
Boy Scouts.
CITY MANAGER REPORT:
Director of Public Works Bell reported that consulting traffic engineer Jack Rydell had
suffered a heart attack and was in the hospital recovering.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Councilman Gardiner asked to pull Item No. 3 for discussion.
Moved by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilman Stern to approve the
Consent Calendar with Item No. 3 removed.
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A roll call vote carried as follows:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, Long, Stern and Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: None
City Hall Sewer Lateral Rehabilitation Project (604 x 1204)
Reviewed and reconfirmed by a four/fifths (4/5) vote, the Council's previous action on
October 17, 2006, to authorize staff to proceed with repairs to the sewer lateral system
at the City Hall complex.
Motion to Waive Full Reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at the meeting with
consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all Council Members after the
reading of the title.
Approval of Minutes (301)
This item was removed from the Consent Calendar.
Adoption of Ordinance No. 450 — Business Permits and Regulations Relating to
Escort Bureaus and Escorts (202)
ADOPTED ORDINANCE NO. 450, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO
PALOS VERDES REGARDING BUSINESS PERMITS AND REGULATIONS
RELATING TO ESCORT BUREAUS AND ESCORTS, AND AMENDING THE RANCHO
PALOS VERDES MUNICIPAL CODE.
Authorization for Verizon Wireless to File a Conditional Use Permit Application to
Install a Wireless Telephone Facility at Ryan Park (1601 x 1201)
Authorized the City Manager to sign the Conditional Use Permit application to allow
Verizon Wireless to seek approval for a wireless telephone facility at Robert E. Ryan
Park.
Register of Demands
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-87, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
Approval of Minutes (301)
Councilman Gardiner indicated that the minutes were so old that he could not
remember the meetings clearly and he would vote no.
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Mayor Wolowicz expressed his frustration as well.
Moved by Mayor Pro Tern Long and seconded by Councilman Stern to approve the
minutes of January 17, 2006 and February 7, 2006. A roll call carried as follows:
AYES: Clark, Long, Stern and Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: Gardiner
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REGULAR NEW BUSINESS
Presentation by the Water Replenishment District of Southern California (1203 x
1402)
Rob Katherman, Water Replenishment District of Southern California, provided a brief
history of the District and various statistics regarding its operation with the aid of slides.
Adeline Jung, Water Replenishment District, explained different sources of water in
Southern California and summarized various processes and programs run by the Water
Replenishment District.
Responding to Mayor Wolowicz, Mr. Katherman explained that City Manager Evans had
contacted them regarding a potential partnership to take advantage of the 200,000 to
300,000 gallons of water available per day from the dewatering efforts in Portuguese
Bend area.
Responding to an observation from Councilman Gardiner regarding high water
consumption, Mr. Katherman indicated that half of the consumption is used for
landscaping.
In response to Councilman Clark, City Manager Evans indicated that there were five
landscaped parks in the City. He explained that the dewatering in Portuguese Bend did
not generate enough water to irrigate all of the City's parks and it would not be cost
effective to transport the water to the parks. He noted that the golf course at Terranea
might be a logical user for the water as they would not want to bring the water across
the landslide. He added that they would most likely have to sell the water to pay for
developing the technology but a water purveyor would be needed to actually handle the
process.
Mayor Wolowicz acknowledged that the matter would take more study but he supported
future opportunities to work with staff on the matter.
Policy Options/Decisions Regarding Future Residential and Commercial Solid
Waste and Recycling Services (1301)
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru distributed late correspondence on the item.
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Director Bell indicated that the Council had requested that Waste Management and
Universal Waste consider extending their contract periods.
Councilman Stern clarified that the City had not requested that the option be
considered, but rather the City had already exercised the option of extending the waste
haulers contracts.
Richard Tagore-Erwin, R3 Consulting, consultant to the City, summarized the material
of record with the aid of slides.
Councilman Clark clarified that there was not a requirement to continue the current
contract; but that the Council elected to continue the contract that the parties had
mutually agreed to seven years ago.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin suggested a formal amendment to the contract to codify what was
already agreed to and to add another termination date to the contract.
Mayor Pro Tem Long indicated that the City was exercising its option consistent with the
current contract and he did not see why an amendment was necessary.
Councilman Stern felt that the terminology used by staff was causing confusion.
Mayor Pro Tern Long suggested that staff was responding cautiously to threats made by
Waste Management in a letter dated November 14, 2006, which indicated that the
company might not participate in the next Request for Proposals (RFP) process. He felt
that they were suggesting that the City did not have a right to exercise the contract
option, or that the option had not been exercised or if the City did exercise the option
they would not participate in the RFP process. He indicated that if Waste Management
did not change their conduct, their actions would negatively impact their statewide
reputation.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin provided a brief summary of City service requirements and noted that
Waste Management provides about 73% of the total service to the City including
residential and a large share of commercial and roll-off services. He added that
communities similar to Rancho Palos Verdes generally had one hauler providing service
to all residential and commercial customers. He pointed out that while the City had a
goal of open competition for the RFP that did not actually happen and he noted that the
market rates are significantly higher than what the City is currently paying. He stated
that the proposed rates were reasonable for the level of service received.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin reported that most companies qualified to service the area were not
interested in taking the risk to find out whether they could make money or not as
unlimited collection creates uncertainly and he suggested narrowing down the level of
risk for the City, the customers and the companies in any future RFP. He explained that
BFI, Norcal, Waste Management and Universal can service the peninsula but BFI and
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Norcal chose not to submit bids. He observed that the City was accustomed to
premium services which increases the rates 20-30% over more typical levels of
services.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin presented the results of a Rolling Hills Estates RFP conducted in
2004 which received responses that were comparable to what the City had received.
He highlighted differences between service in Rolling Hills Estates and Rancho Palos
Verdes and clarified that Rolling Hills Estates had gone to a once per week limited trash
pick-up schedule. He suggested examining policy issues and the various levels of
services offered to residents with proposed changes such as not including multiple
options in the RFP; reducing the level of services offered to single family customers to
limit rate increases and reducing hauler fee payments and hauler-provided City services
to limit rate increases.
Responding to Councilman Clark, Mr. Tagore-Erwin indicated that it was not difficult to
price out once per week versus twice per week but with each variable added the RFP
the calculation becomes more complex.
Councilman Stern observed that the residents with special needs in the Portuguese
Bend area like their current hauler; noted that the rates these customers pay are better
than what Waste Management is providing; and he did not see the benefit to making
these residents part of the one size fits all scenario.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin stated that economies of scale could be achieved with routing and the
types of trucks used, and he acknowledged that one size did not fit all.
Councilman Stern commented that if economies of scale did not translate to a lower
rate he did not see the benefit.
Councilman Gardiner observed that other levels of government had an RFP process
that took into account input from the companies who bid and he suggested that the City
do the same.
Mayor Wolowicz clarified that the Council was not looking for alterations to the
extension period or to renegotiate it, so there is ample time to address changes to the
RFP before it is sent out again.
The Council discussed whether the City would retain its rights for contract additional
extensions beyond the initial one year period and concerns were raised that it might not
be in the City's best interests to keep the options and go out for another RFP.
Councilman Clark discussed term incentives based upon good performance and noted
that the Council was extending the term of the contract based upon the City's options
and the positive performance of Waste Management during the tenure of the base
contract. He added that the City had the option to move forward irrespective of past
performance with an RFP to find the best value for the City and he pointed out that it
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was not unusual for a government entity to reward a service provider by continued
performance through the exercise of that option.
Councilman Gardiner pointed out that Waste Management claimed to be losing
$100,000 per month and stated that if the claim is legitimately verifiable he would not be
opposed to increasing the existing fees somewhat but if the claims can not be verified
he did not agree with exercising future options.
Mayor Pro Tem Long expressed skepticism about the degree of loss due to the fact that
Waste Management had not used the mechanism available in the contract to apply for
increases and he noted that there were many ways to allocate costs among multiple
contracts.
Mayor Wolowicz asked about the time frame for the Council to make the policy
decisions.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin stated that if the Council wanted to issue another RFP, staff would
formulate a schedule of tasks to accommodate the one year extension period. He
added that a decision had to be made about whether or not to exercise future options
before proceeding with another RFP.
Mayor Pro Tem Long questioned how much Waste Management would want to pay to
get out of its existing contract if they are losing $1.2 million per year on it and he pointed
out that the $500,000 performance bond was not the limit to its liability. He suggested
making as many policy decisions as possible so that when the RFP is issued the
potential bidders know that even though the City has the right to extend the current
contract for two more years it is the right time to lock in a longer term price for 7-10
years.
Councilman Clark indicated that he would move to request the subcommittee meet with
Waste Management to engage in more detailed discussions because he felt talking
about decision points was premature.
Darrell Kato, Director of Operations, Waste Management, cited the November 14, 2006
letter which indicated that the other bidders knew what Waste Management's rates were
therefore providing an unfair advantage to their competitors and if the RFP process was
not fair then Waste Management could choose not to participate. He clarified that it was
not intended as a threat and they did understand that the City had chosen to extend the
contract for a year. He reported that there would be price advantages for residential
franchises if industrial and commercial customers are added into the contract.
Councilman Stern questioned what constituted fairness in the RFP process in order for
Waste Management to participate given that their rates are public record and that can
not be changed.
Mr. Kato believed that streamlining the RFP and basing it on the true needs of the City
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would present the opportunity to rate the City at a proper level.
Councilman Stern questioned whether Waste Management would be open to
discussing a buy-out on years two and three of its current contract and Mr. Kato
indicated that they would be willing to meet and discuss that option.
Mayor Pro Tem Long pointed out that Waste Management complained about the rates
being public in the RFP process yet were aware there was no way around that.
Mr. Kato indicated that they did not know that there would be a second RFP process
and they did not know who else would submit bids on the contract.
Mayor Pro Tem Long found it intriguing that the November 14, 2006 letter indicates that
other bidders have knowledge of Waste Management's negotiated rates, but then they
indicate that what they bid before would not be bid again as circumstances have
changed.
Mr. Kato reported that bundling services resulted in the commercial and industrial
components subsidizing the residential rates but residential rates will be higher as a
stand alone. He stated that Rancho Palos Verdes had a high percentage of residential,
some multi-family and 187 commercial customers and explained that commercial and
industrial rates were adjusted to bring down the residential rates, which is common
practice for full exclusive franchises.
Mayor Pro Tem Long felt the November 14th letter was heavy handed and he took
company management at their word that they are losing $1.2 million per year. He felt
the response to the initial RFP was outrageously high and not in good faith or based
upon real costs and the proof was the ultimately the negotiated rates they arrived at.
Mr. Kato indicated that their bid was not for bundled services and if they had the
exclusive franchise they could bring down the rates, which is what they had worked
hard to do.
Councilman Clark commented that Waste Management has a residential client base
accustomed to past practices who wants to keep the current system and he wanted to
hear more input from the community.
Responding to Councilman Clark, Mr. Kato reported recently going through a bid
process for an unincorporated potion of the county and that Los Angeles County did an
outstanding job of soliciting feedback from the residents and waste haulers during the
process. He agreed with the concept of a series of meetings to work with the City on
the framework, content and the structure of the RFP.
The Council discussed confidentiality of rate information and what information from the
RFP was required to be made public.
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Assistant City Attorney Snow indicated that there were probably circumstances under
which the City could keep certain information confidential and he suggested that staff
look into that and build the appropriate standards into future RFPs.
Mayor Pro Tern Long asserted that Waste Management knows the bidding process and
that the information is public and he did not think that the City was getting the true cost.
Councilman Gardiner questioned whether Waste Management had provided information
in the process of negotiations which they preferred not be public and in other settings is
not done. Mr. Kato responded that they had.
Mayor Pro Tern Long questioned whether Waste Management had ever provided
financial information to another city that the city has kept confidential.
Mr. Kato indicated that usually when they submit information it is in the form of a rate
and rarely are they asked for the kind of detailed information which Rancho Palos
Verdes requested.
Mayor Pro Tern Long pointed out that Waste Management knew the information
submitted was not going to be confidential.
Mayor Wolowicz stated that he appreciated the company's response to the RFP and he
indicated that it was his inclination to keep residential, commercial and multi-family
separate rather than bundling them since Waste Management's initial response for the
single contract indicated that no reduction in residential rates would occur because the
commercial portion is too small.
Mr. Tagore-Erwin reported that initially Waste Management did not provide a bid for
bundled services but after the initial bid came in high, staff requested a bundled rate
and that was what resulted in the second lower rate proposed by Waste Management.
He indicated that he still believed that one provider would net the best rate although it is
a risk because while it may result in an improved rate for single family, it could result in
an increase rate for commercial and multi-family users.
The Council and consultant discussed rate variations, differences in what haulers do
depending on the size of the company, and efficiencies gained by grouping collection
methods together. It was noted that it is common practice for commercial and industrial
customers to subsidize residential customers and the Council disagreed with that as the
consensus was that each should bear its own cost.
Mr. Kato stated that Waste Management had served the City for 14 years and he noted
that their employees took pride in their work. He apologized for any perception of
disrespect as it was not their intention; and explained that they were simply managing
their business.
Councilman Stern stated that he wanted to see the consultant and staff obtain input
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from the industry as to what would make a successful RFP.
Councilman Clark wanted to see a more systematic outreach to the public as he felt that
would help frame the final streamlined RFP choices.
The Council discussed the scope of the Council subcommittee's work and Councilman
Gardiner stated that he did not want to be constrained to specific tasks.
Mayor Pro Tem Long was not in favor of mandating that the subcommittee bring back
whatever they chose and instead wanted to see the subcommittee directed to meet with
Waste Management, negotiate based on what is presented and then have staff meet
with interested haulers to discuss what should be in the next RFP and continue working
on a revised RFP for a March 2007 release. He felt the subcommittee should have
clear instructions rather than general, vague mandates.
Responding to Mayor Wolowicz, Mr. Tagore-Erwin reported that staff had sought
feedback from the public but had not received a lot. He suggested that in order to get
better feedback from the public the City needed to be more focused on the message
given to them.
Mayor Pro Tem Long observed that it looked as though the direction was to negotiate
with Waste Management with a goal of continuing the existing service but he favored
issuing another RFP. He had no problem meeting with Waste Management to see what
they would offer as an incentive not to proceed with an RFP or a buy-out of the current
contract but he suggested beginning the process of preparing an alternate RFP and
looking at the advantage of electing to keep the remaining two years in play. He
indicated that the Committee's mandate would be to discuss these issues with Waste
Management.
Moved by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilman Gardiner to: 1) Request the
Council subcommittee to meet with Waste Management to continue discussions
including, but not limited to, exploring truncation of the existing contract extension
options and determining what the waste hauler's position may be on buying out the
remainder to the contract, and provide a status report back to City Council at the first
meeting in January 2007; and, 2) Direct staff to consult with prospective bidders on
ways to improve the structure of the RFP and to develop a systematic mechanism to
solicit input from residents on a list of streamlined service options.
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, Stern and Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: Mayor Pro Tem Long
RECESS AND RECONVENE:
Mayor Wolowicz called a recess from 10:10 P.M. to 10:18 P.M.
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Santa Monica Bay Watershed —Jurisdiction 7 Joint TMDL Compliance
Memorandum of Agreement (1204 x 1402)
Staff noted that there had been a number of amendments to the agreement which have
been incorporated into the document being presented to Council.
Moved by Councilman Gardiner and seconded by Councilman Clark to: 1) Approve the
joint Total Maximum Daily Loads (TMDL) compliance "Memorandum of Agreement"
(Agreement) for Jurisdiction 7; 2) Authorize the Mayor to execute the Memorandum of
Agreement on behalf of the City; and, 3) ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2006-88, A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES,
AMENDING RESOLUTION 2006-41, THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION FOR FY 06-07,
TO INCREASE THE BUDGET IN THE STORM WATER QUALITY FUND.
Council Disaster Succession Proposal (401)
Assistant to the City Manager Park provided a summary of the material of record.
Mayor Wolowicz indicated that he was troubled by the concept of Councilmembers
appointing other individuals to serve in their place.
Assistant to the City Manager Park explained various options available including having
Councilmembers nominate the same three people, having each Councilmember
nominate three people or the Council as a whole nominating 15 people with three
designated for each Councilmember.
Mayor Wolowicz wanted to see the replacements be "office specific" rather than specific
individuals, such that people currently involved with the workings of the City who are
already in a position of authority, such as whoever is the Chair of the Planning
Commission or Finance Committee, would be called on to substitute for a
Councilmember during a disaster.
Assistant to the City Manager Park explained that the state Government Code is very
vague about the qualifications of the alternates, so staff made suggestions such as
having been a member of a Commission, being a registered voter, and being at least 18
years old.
The Council discussed situations constituting an emergency and concerns were raised
with suggesting a line of succession, the inconvenience of having to designate three
people each time there was a change in Councilmembers and having each designated
person investigated to determine if they were qualified to hold the position.
Mayor Wolowicz suggested either greater study or something that prohibits adopting a
line of succession of appointed positions within Commissions and Committees and he
noted that there is a clearly defined line of succession for City staff by position.
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Councilman Gardiner pointed out the difference between filling an administrative
function and filling an elected position and he did not favor a mechanical approach. He
also pointed out that this was for unusual circumstances and one of the reasons for
allowing Councilmembers to choose a successor is to allow for continuity of political
perspective.
Councilman Stern saw the logic of allowing Councilmembers to choose their
successors.
Mayor Pro Tem Long acknowledged the difficulty of appointing successors but he noted
that in the event of a catastrophe it would be important to have people chosen who are
familiar with the workings of the government. He stated that he preferred developing a
line of succession but did not feel it made that much difference as this was put in place
in the event of an extreme situation to provide order in a time of chaos and not for a
typical succession.
Councilman Gardiner commented that order came from the administrators and policy
came from the Council.
Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Long to adopt the staff recommendation and have each
Councilman choose three standby Councilmembers pursuant to state Government
Code with appointments brought back in the second meeting in January 2007 for
inclusion in a resolution. Councilman Stern seconded the motion and a roll call
followed:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, Long, and Stern
NOES: Mayor Wolowicz
Format of City Council Minutes (301)
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru provided a brief summary of the material of
record.
The Council discussed various methods of video streaming City meetings on the
Internet.
Mayor Pro Tem Long expressed support for continuing to rely on printed minutes, as
paper endured no matter what technological advances take place and he questioned
whether the City would always have the ability to go back ten years no matter what
happened technologically. He pointed out that much of the original videos of the Apollo
mission can no longer be retrieved and he added that there were very few occasions
where they wanted to look back more than ten years.
Responding to Councilman Stern, Director McLean explained that DVDs would not be
the permanent record, the Real video files are the permanent record and they are
backed up and archived remotely.
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Councilman Stern questioned how the public would access the information.
Director McLean indicated that DVDs were being retained and could be made available
for viewing and in addition, staff expected that the meetings would remain accessible
online on the City's website.
Councilman Gardiner expressed concern with the availability and integrity of the data
noting that the length of time that video exists on hard disk is in question.
Assistant City Manager/ City Clerk Petru reported that the DVD and video stream files
were designated as permanent records of the City and that hard copies of the adopted
minutes are retained forever.
Councilman Gardiner pointed out that if the City changes its current practice, it would
have hard copy summary minutes from this point onward and would be relying on media
for the actual verbatim record. He questioned the reliability and stability of the current
media.
Ted Vegvari, Palos Verdes on the Net, information/technology consultant to the City,
reported that back ups were being done regularly and every time they do a back up the
drive is tested and refreshed so there is a newly written complete data set.
Responding to Mayor Wolowicz, Director McLean reported that the City's cost to digitize
video stream files is about $3,500 per year, payable to PV on the Net, and that the City
also supports PV on the Net's hardware and software at a cost of about $3,000 per
year. He clarified that the cost of the back-up system and offsite storage is for all of the
City's electronic data and not just the City's video files.
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru indicated that the new cost of preparing
summary minutes would be about half of what the City Clerk's Office is currently
spending.
Mayor Wolowicz questioned whether it was possible to increase accessing speed when
reviewing verbatim minutes through indexing or key phrase links.
Mr. Vegvari reported that the technology did exist to take the verbatim minutes and
index key portions of the video but they did not currently do that.
Moved by Mayor Pro Tem Long and seconded by Councilman Stern to: 1) Authorize the
City Clerk's Office to prepare summary minutes for all televised City Council meetings
and detailed minutes of all non-televised City Council meetings; 2) Direct the
Information/Technology Department to continue to use Real video stream files as the
permanent video and audio record of City Council and Planning Commission meetings;
and 3) Direct staff to present an overview of the City Council's discussion to the
Planning Commission and seek the Commission's preference whether or not to migrate
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from detail minutes to summary minutes. Hearing no objection Mayor Wolowicz so
ordered.
Consideration of an Ordinance of the City of Rancho Palos Verdes Regulating
Solicitation within the City (202)
Councilman Gardiner suggested continuing the item as he had concerns he wanted to
discuss with City Attorney Lynch who was not present.
Moved by Mayor Pro Tern Long and seconded by Councilman Clark to continue the
item to December 5, 2006.
City Manager Recruitment (1101 x 1202)
Councilman Gardiner stated that he preferred to keep the application process open in
case a qualified candidate surfaced after the specified application deadline ended.
Councilman Stern noted that five applications had been received after the deadline and
the flexibility existed to consider additional applications.
Mayor Wolowicz expressed disappointment and concern that the City was not able to
have a City Manager in place by the end of the year as promised.
The Council discussed the possibility of having Director McLean or another staff
member act as Interim City Manager as it would be valuable to have someone familiar
with the workings of the City in place until a final replacement is found. Concerns were
raised about the additional workload that would be placed on an in-house interim City
Manager, the recruitment process and the impact of an extension of the originally
expected interim period.
Councilman Clark moved to accept the staff recommendation, except to defer entering
into an agreement with Paul Bussey. Mayor Pro Tern Long seconded the motion for
discussion purposes.
The Council further discussed their options and Mayor Pro Tern Long withdrew his
second of Councilman Clark's motion.
Moved by Councilman Stern and seconded by Councilman Gardiner to: 1) Endorse the
City Manager recruitment process so far; 2)Approve the proposed recruitment process
over the next few months; and 3) Direct the City Manager to negotiate and enter into an
agreement with Paul Bussey to serve as the Interim City Manager until the new City
Manager is hired.
AYES: Gardiner, Long, Stern and Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: Clark
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FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
Mayor Wolowicz requested consideration of the scheduling of the first meeting of 2007.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT:
Assistant City Attorney Snow announced that no reportable action was taken on either
item. Councilman Gardiner indicated that he had requested certain instances of
litigation be reported on and added in the next closed session.
ADJOURNMENT:
Hearing no objection, Mayor Wolowicz ordered the meeti • 'c journed a •46 P.M.
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