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RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
MAY 2, 2006
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m. at Fred Hesse Community Park, 29301
Hawthorne Boulevard, Rancho Palos Verdes.
Roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Stern, Gardiner, Clark, Long, Mayor Wolowicz
Also present were City Manager Les Evans; Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Carolynn
Petru Petru; City Attorney Carol Lynch; Director of Finance/Information Technology
Dennis McLean; Director of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement Joel Rojas;
Interim Director of Public Works Ray Holland; Deputy Planning Director Greg Pfost; and
Associate Planner Kit Fox.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Sheriff's Deputy Chris Knox.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Councilman Stern made a motion to approve the agenda. Seconded by Councilman
Clark.
Without objection, Mayor Wolowicz declared that the agenda stands approved as
presented.
RECYCLE DRAWING:
Mayor Wolowicz announced Stuart Bisk and Seibert Chernila as Recyclers of the Month
and urged everyone to participate in the City's recycling program.
Public Works Director Holland announced that on May 6, 2006, the City would host the
annual free Household Hazardous Waste and Electronics Waste Round-Up.
Councilman Clark added that it is no longer legal to throw away batteries in the trash,
and this event is a perfect opportunity to dispose of this type of waste.
Councilman Gardiner suggested posted an announcement on the Channel 33 video
bulletin board regarding this event.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Tom Redfield, Rancho Palos Verdes, encouraged residents to attend the City Council's
annual budget workshops. He also encouraged the Council to have the workshops
filmed and to provide a better microphone system in the future for meetings held at
locations other than Hesse Park. He supports what City Manager Evans stated at the
budget workshop that the entrance to the City at 25th Street and Palos Verdes Drive
South is unsightly due to the utility poles and the tangle of wires and suggested that it is
in the best interest of the Trump Organization help the City places these utilities
underground. He also thanked City Manager Evans for following through with the
Edison Company regarding the delay in providing electrical power for the irrigation
system at the intersection of Palos Verdes Drive East and South. He indicated that he
would like to see beautification of this intersection added to the list of things the Trump
Organization should address.
CITY COUNCIL ORAL REPORTS:
Councilman Gardiner reported that he met with Gabriella Holt and the Superintendent
of the Southern California Regional Occupational Center (SCROC) regarding setting up
a satellite campus for SCROC at the Channel 33 studio to teach video production. He
indicated that SCROC would be providing some equipment for the studio in conjunction
with the shared use and felt that it will be a win-win all around if it comes to fruition.
Councilman Clark reported that on the April 4th he met with the President of the Board
of the Palos Verdes Art Center regarding the future of the museum at the Civic Center.
He also met with Councilwoman Janice Hahn on a number of topics, and of particular
note he indicated that she is forming a citizen's advisory oversight committee for the
Ponte Vista residential development project on Western Avenue in San Pedro and has
invited Council to name up to three members from Rancho Palos Verdes to participate
on this committee. Councilman Clark reported that on April 13th and 14th, he
participated in the California Coastal Commission hearings in Santa Barbara. He noted
that there was an item on the Commission's agenda regarding dredging in the Santa
Barbara Harbor area. On April 25th, he had a meeting with the Mayor and City Manager
of El Segundo and talked about some of the issues and challenges relative to on-street
parking with respect to recreational vehicles and observed that many South Bay cities
are dealing with this issue. On May 28th, he joined the Mayor in hosting a lunch for the
business community at the Pointe Vicente Interpretive Center as part of the capital
campaign to raise donations to complete the exhibits at the museum and commended
the Mayor's efforts in this regard. On April 29th, he attended the Council budget
workshop, which he felt was very productive. Finally, on April 30th, he attended the
Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy reception at the Point Vicente Interpretive
Center.
Mayor Pro Tem Long reported that on April 1st he met with Maude Landon to discuss
issues related to the Palos Verdes Art Center. In addition to the budget workshop, he
reported that the only other meeting he attended in April was the reception for the newly
appointed General Manager of the Metropolitan Water District. He noted that the MWD
might have grants and loans available to the City if it decides to create a commercial
water source from the de-watering wells in the landslide area. Mayor Pro Tem Long
reported that he also had the opportunity on two separate occasions to speak to a
consultant hired by the Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission. He noted that
Rancho Palos Verdes is in this watershed and, with the exception of Malibu, is the city
with the longest coastline. He indicated that this Commission has control over tens of
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millions of dollars of funds, which it can allocate to local cities, but noted that its
governing board seems to be controlled by a Los Angeles City Council member. He
reported that the consultant told him that the Commission recently concluded that this
agency is not allocating enough of its money to the South Bay, created a task force to
study the problem and that the Commission is interested in funding habitat restoration
projects. Mayor Pro Tern Long indicated that he contacted Barbara Dye of the Palos
Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy and asked City staff to help formulate a list of
projects that can be presented to the Santa Monica Bay Restoration Commission. He
also offered to serve on the task force, noting that the first meeting is on May 25, 2006.
Councilman Stern indicated that he had nothing to report.
Mayor Wolowicz reported that on April 19th he attended the monthly Mayor's lunch,
where he reported receiving many questions about what has been going on in Rancho
Palos Verdes and noted that there was extensive discussion of Rolling Hills Estates'
Peninsula Village project. On April 20th, he along with City Manager Evans met with
Bill Baker, President of the West Basin Water District, at the request of Mr. Baker. Also
on April 20th, he chaired the Palos Verdes Transit Authority meeting and noted that
beginning next year the County will start to gradually reduce one of its subsidies to this
program so that the cities served by this system will bear a greater financial burden
placed for its continued operation. He reported that the Palos Verdes Transit Authority
would also be taking over a bus route from the Los Angeles Metropolitan Transit
Authority. Mayor Wolowicz reported that he and Councilman Clark attended the
dedication at the Los Angeles Air Force Base of the Space Management Complex on
April 24th and observed that Rancho Palos Verdes stood behind the BRAC closure
group that was formed in the South Bay to retain Los Angeles Air Force Base.
Mayor Wolowicz reported, that on April 26th, he had an opportunity to speak to seniors
at Belmont Village. On April 27th, he attended the South Bay Council of Governments
meeting, which is made up of elected Council members from throughout the greater
South Bay. There are a number of reports given about that, and the initiative for putting
a South Bay representative on the AQMD is quite significant. There was a presentation
by members of the MTA in Los Angeles, and the issues of particular interest had to do
with legislative issues. Mayor Wolowicz had the opportunity also to express his great
disappointment with the California League of Cities for the position they have taken
regarding pension reform within government. Mayor Wolowicz did not repeat the
reports already given on the April 28th, 29th, and 30th event, but noted that all three of
those events occurred at the Palos Verdes Interpretive Center. On May 1st, he heard a
presentation from Mr. Steve Kinney representing Marymount College and on May 2nd,
visited the property at 6010 Ocean Terrace Drive.
Councilman Clark also reported that at the California Coastal Commission's upcoming
May 10th meeting in Orange County, the Terranea resort hotel would be back on the
agenda. He encouraged the Council members to attend the meeting and speak on
behalf of the project.
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CITY MANAGER REPORTS:
City Manager Evans reported, in reference to the status of the lease agreement with the
Palos Verdes Arts Center, the he and the City Attorney met with PVAC's attorneys, and
that they believe that they will shortly have a document that all the attorneys and staff
agree on that can then be brought back to the Council for consideration.
Councilman Gardiner asked about the status of creating a tracking mechanism for
storm drain improvements, including a description of the project, the estimated budget
and a running total of the actual cost, and the project's progress to date.
Director McLean responded that a status report has been posted on the City's website
with the tracking of the storm drain projects. He added that staff is approximately one
to two weeks away from including pictures and/or drawings of the various drainage
improvement projects that have been completed and or that are currently under way.
OLD BUSINESS:
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru informed the audience that items previously
discussed and continued to a future City Council meeting can be viewed on the City's
website at www.palosverdes.com/rpv.
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
Pontevedra Emergency Storm Drain Repairs (604 x 1204)
Reviewed and reconfirmed by a four/fifths (4/5) vote, the Council's previous action on
December 6, 2005 to authorize staff to conduct an informal bid process to repair the
Pontevedra storm drain line.
Motion to Waive Full Reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this meeting
with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all Council Members after
the reading of the title.
Used Oil Recycling Block Grant for FY 2006-07 (1301)
1) Authorized the application of the FY 2006-07 (12th Cycle) used oil block grant to
continue the used oil and filter recycling program for City of Rancho Palos Verdes (City)
residents; and 2) ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-27, A RESOLUTION OF THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES AUTHORIZING THE
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TO EXECUTE ANY AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTS,
AND REQUESTS FOR PAYMENT AS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THE
PROGRAM.
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Release of Trust Deposit 413 (1204)
Released balance of funds in Trust Deposit No. 413 for Tract No. 38512 in the amount
of$30,520 for construction along Palos Verdes Drive South.
American Cancer Society/Palos Verdes Peninsula Relay for Life (1101)
Considered approval of the City's participation in publicizing and participating in the
2006 Palos Verdes Peninsula Relay for Life.
Budget Adjustment for Purchase of Studio Equipment (305)
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-28, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-53,
THE BUDGET APPROPRIATION FOR FY05-06, TO ADJUST APPROPRIATIONS IN
THE CHANNEL 33 BUDGET.
Port Pollution Reduction Senate Bills 764, 763, 762, 761, and 760 [sponsored by
Senator Lowenthal] (1101 x 310 x 101)
Received status update on Senator Lowenthal's port pollution reduction legislative bills.
This item was pulled from the agenda.
March 2006 Treasurer's Report (602)
Received and filed the March 2006 Treasurer's Report for the City of Rancho Palos
Verdes.
Register of Demands
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-29, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES ALLOWING CERTAIN CLAIMS AND
DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
Mayor Wolowicz requested that Item No. 3 be pulled for a brief comment, and there
was a request to remove Item Nos. 4 and 7 as well.
Councilman Gardiner made a motion to approve the Consent Calendar with Items 3, 4,
and 7 removed for discussion. Seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Long
The motion to approve the Consent Calendar, as amended, carried on the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Clark, Gardiner, Stern, Long, Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
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ABSENT: None
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ITEM REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
Approval of the Minutes (301)
Mayor Wolowicz indicated that he received an e-mail complaining about the delay in the
preparation of the minutes, and that there were two parts of the correspondence that he
thought warranted a response. One was the reason for the delay in transcribing the
minutes and the second was a comment as to whether or not this was Council's way of
deliberating trying to withhold information from the public. He observed that the full
content of each Council meeting is available to the public virtually instantaneously via
the live cable broadcasts and at no time should there be any doubt that the Council
wants this information in the hands of the public. He noted that some time ago Council
adopted a detailed minutes format, and accordingly, preparing the minutes to the level
expected takes some time. He indicated that several transcribers have been used at
different times and that the draft minutes must go through several iterations before they
are presented to Council for adoption. He concluded by stating that the City has every
intention of getting the minutes out as quickly and as cost-effectively as possible.
Councilman Clark added that individuals could go to the City's web site and view any
portion of any meeting as many times as they like via video streaming. He echoed
Mayor Wolowicz's comments that information with respect to City Council meetings is
continuously available to the public.
Councilman Stern said that he was disappointed the individual who wrote the e-mail
apparently did not know about the live cable broadcasts or the City's web site. He
emphasized that Council wants people to know what is going on, but agreed that it does
take a while to prepare the written minutes.
Mayor Pro Tem Long commented that on page 23 of the draft October 18, 2005
minutes the comments attributed to him in the fourth paragraph down regarding the
value of regional law enforcement in terms of traffic safety stemmed from the fact that
in several neighborhoods of Ranchos Palos Verdes the arterials where speeding occurs
happen to be in another city. He asked that this explanation be added to the minutes.
He also noted that on page 25 of the same set of minutes, the sentence read, "Mayor
Clark noted that although Councilman Long offered a compromise to move the City in
the direction of interacting with other Cities, he..." noting that "he" is indistinct, and
should refer to Mayor Clark. Mayor Pro Tem Long did not want it to appear that he had
supported the motion.
By acclamation, Council approved the minutes of October 4, 2005, as presented, and
the minutes of October 18, 2005, as amended.
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Border Issues Status Report (310)
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru noted that late correspondence was distributed
on this Item.
April Sandell, Rancho Palos Verdes, asked if Item No. 17 (Community Advisory Board
for Ponte Vista) could be moved under this heading because she believed that it is a
border issue.
Mayor Wolowicz said that Council preferred to discuss Item No. 17 separately.
Councilman Stern moved to adopt staff recommendation to review the current status of
border issues and provide direction to staff, as appropriate. Seconded by Councilman
Clark.
Without objection, Mayor Wolowicz so ordered.
Budget Adjustment for Additional Geologic Services Related to the Current
Landslide Moratorium Area Geologic Study (1203 x 1801)
Frank Kostrencich, Rancho Palos Verdes, asked if the City planned to use an
independent panel of geologists landslide workshop scheduled in June 2006, or if not,
could the Seaview residents make recommendations regarding the appointment of the
geologist.
City Attorney Lynch said that staff had planned on using independent geologists.
City Manager Evans stated, however, that all geologists are welcome to participate in
the workshop.
Mr. Kostrencich noted that the draft resolution indicated that Zeiser Kling was going to
be one of the geologists, and expressed concern that this firm had already formed an
opinion about the situation in Seaview.
Mayor Wolowicz pointed out that they are representatives of the City.
City Manager Evans said that staff will hire geologists whom it believes are specialists
in various areas to attend the meeting, but noted that he was aware of three other
geologists who live in the City who have already weighed in on this topic.
Mr. Kostrencich said that one of the Seaview residents has put together a list of
specialists, and that some of the residents would like to involve them in the workshop.
City Manager Evans clarified that the City would not pay the fees for any geologists that
the Seaview residents brought in to participate in the workshop.
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Mayor Pro Tern Long said that this resolution is to simply allow for payment of the City's
Geologist and not to add additional geologists to the panel.
City Attorney Lynch clarified that it is to pay for the additional services of Zeiser Kling
plus pay for the services of one or two additional geologists. She stated that any other
geologic opinions could also be presented during the workshop.
Mr. Kostrencich questioned if the opinions of any independent geologist would have
much weight because the City's panel would obviously make the final recommendation.
Councilman Stern said that the geologist is to provide input to the City Council.
Everyone is entitled to present whatever information is helpful, and it will be weighed
accordingly. This is simply a budget item to pay the people the City hires. There is no
"final" recommendation. It is a workshop where the City Council will hear whatever
opinions are expressed, which does not mean the City is going to hire a geologist for
everyone who would like one. However, the City Council can't say in advance whose
opinion will carry more weight. The Council needs to hear the facts.
Councilman Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to approve the staff
recommendation.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Gardiner, Stern, Clark, Long, Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-30, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES APPROVING A $50,000 BUDGET
APPROPRIATION FOR ADDITIONAL GEOLOGIC SERVICES RELATED TO THE
CURRENTLY ONGOING LANDSLIDE MORATORIUM AREA GEOLOGIC STUDY.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Trump National Golf Club - Revision "Z" - Request for a modification to the Golf
Course to allow an increase in height for Waterfall #1 and a new back tee for Hole
#2 [Continued from April 18, 2006] (1411)
Deputy Planning Director Pfost reported that Council review is required for any changes
to the approved 1996 site plan that are not in substantial compliance with that plan. He
indicated that in May 2003 Council approved the construction of waterfall at Holes Nos.
1 and 17 and at that time there was a condition that the waterfall height be lower than
some existing mounds. He reported that Waterfall No. 1 ended up being constructed
slightly higher in some places, and after it was completed, the applicant made revisions
to the back tees of Hole No. 2, which are immediately adjacent to Waterfall No. 1 and
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that Waterfall No. 1 is up to three feet higher than the existing mounds, but is
approximately two feet lower than a mound that previously existed in this area. Mr.
Pfost noted that there is about an eight-foot elevation difference between the back tee
for Hole No. 2 than what was originally approved by Council, which creates a steeper
grade and pushes the tee closer to Ocean Trails Drive, resulting in a small amount of
view impairment, which staff does not find significant and supports the increase in
height
Mayor Pro Tem Long asked if the city geologist had looked at the changes.
Deputy Planning Director Pfost reported that the City geologist is looking at the entire
as-built geology report, which would include these changes.
Councilman Stern asked if staff inquired of the applicant how the tee was raised by
roughly eight feet.
Deputy Planning Director Pfost explained that the applicant purposefully raised the
height of the tees in order to provide a better shot for Hole No. 2 and pointed out that
typically an applicant should request the change prior to actually doing it.
Councilman Stern asked if there is anything that would prevent the applicant from
making the driving range essentially closed to the public by way of pricing.
Councilman Clark said that the City did not regulate the prices charged at the golf
course and explained that it was essentially market driven.
Councilman Stern stated that he believes there should be some kind of restriction that
prohibits exclusivity by pricing.
Vincent Stellio, Trump National Golf Course, said that the golf course currently charges
$6 and $10 for a bucket of balls, which is relatively low for a driving range.
Councilman Gardiner pointed out that as of April 29th, the golf course's web site
referred to it as "Trump National Los Angeles" instead of"Trump National Palos Verdes
Peninsula."
Councilman Clark said that one of the issues he raised the last time this item was
before Council was the possibility of reduced green fees for peninsula residents; that
the applicant had indicated at that time that there were discussions under way with the
California Coastal Commission regarding different rate structures that are used on other
public courses on the California coast and asked for confirmation from the applicant.
Mr. Stellio said that Councilman Clark's statement is correct.
Councilman Clark made a motion to approve staff recommendation. Seconded by
Councilman Gardiner. Without objection, Mayor Wolowicz declared that the motion
passed and staff recommendation was approved as follows:
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1) ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-31, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF
RANCHO PALOS VERDES APPROVING ADDENDUM NO. 21 TO ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT NO. 36; and 2) ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2006-32, A
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES
AMENDING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 163 TO PERMIT AN INCREASE IN
HEIGHT FOR WATERFALL #1 AND A NEW BACK TEE FOR HOLE #2.
Appeal of Planning Case No. ZON2003-00620 (La Charite, 6010 Ocean Terrace
Drive) (1804)
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru indicated that notice of the public hearing was
published, no written protests were received; late correspondence was previously
distributed to Council, including a resolution and a substitute set of plans; and there are
seven requests to speak on this item.
Councilman Gardiner said he thought the issues associated with this item had been
resolved, and if so, there is no need for an oral staff report.
Associate Planner Fox reported that the applicant had provided staff with revised plans
addressing the three main issues associated with the appeal, including the elimination
of 803 cubic yards of non-remedial cut for the lower level garage and basement, thus
eliminating the need for the height variation as well as any conflict with tract conditions
which stipulate that grading within the Building Grading Restriction (BGR) line should be
"minor in scope." Mr. Fox noted that the Planning Commission had approved a
concrete patio slab that was outside the BGR line near the rear of the property, and that
it had been eliminated so that there was no longer any conflict with a tract condition that
discourages grading on slopes outside the BGR line. He indicated that staff has
reviewed the revised plans and concluded that it meets all of the required findings for
approval of a grading permit to prepare the lot for development including the required
finding that the project is compatible with the character of the surrounding
neighborhood. He concluded that the appeal could be dismissed as moot and the
matter remanded to staff; but noted that staff believes that it would be more expeditious
for the City Council to simply approve the revised project. With that action in mind, he
explained that staff distributed a resolution for Council's consideration as part of the late
correspondence.
Mayor Wolowicz asked if there was agreement from all of the participants on the
proposed changes to the project, and whether staff had spoken with the appellant, Mr.
Beggans.
Associate Planner Fox indicated that staff had spoken with Mr. Beggans, but has not
talked with any of the other neighbors.
Councilman Gardiner said that his understanding is that the substitute plan meets all
the code requirements, and asked staff what happens to the fee that the appellants
paid and does the person have to go back to square one who wants to develop the
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property or can they consider just picking up and continuing.
Associate Planner Fox said that if the appeal was determined to be moot, the
appellants would receive a full refund of the appeal fee. He explained that regarding
the project, Council could remand the project back to staff for a Director-level decision,
which would trigger another review process where the Director's decision could be
appealed to the Planning Commission and then possibly appealed again to Council.
He indicated that another option would be for the Council to approve the distributed
resolution and incorporate the revised project plans.
Councilman Stern asked if the proposed revisions are totally consistent with what the
Planning Commission approved, deleting only the objectionable items
Associate Planner Fox indicated that this is the case.
In response to a question from Councilman Stern, Planning Commission Chair Knight
indicated that he had not seen the revised plans and would have to rely on staffs
opinion regarding their consistency with the Commission's decision.
Councilman Stern indicated that, if the revised plans were totally consistent with the
tract conditions and the Development Code, he would be in favor of just approving it
and moving on. He asked if staff is absolutely certain that the plans are consistent and
if they are stamped approved now, no problems will be created later.
Associate Planner Fox indicated that staff was provided with a copy of the site plan and
floor plans the prior week, although elevations were received the day of this meeting in
order to make the set of plans complete, and noted that staff is confident that the plans
comply with the City's requirements.
Mayor Pro Tem Long said that his preference would be to determine the appeal to be
moot, refund the appeal fee and, if what staff said is right, there will be no appeal made
to the Planning Commission and or Council. He did not see any particular need to have
Council approve the project now. He observed that while it may be expedient, it may
also unnecessarily prevent everyone from re-examining the plans and that hastens the
decision when there is no particular need to do so.
Councilman Clark said that he supports Mayor Pro Tem Long's position.
Councilman Gardiner asked if Council remanded the project back to staff whether the
applicant would have to resubmit application fees, or if they would carry on as if it were
simply a change to the plan.
Associate Planner Fox indicated that the applicant would not have to pay new fees.
Councilman Gardiner asked about the amount of time needed to process the revision.
Associate Planner Fox said that it was just a matter of preparing a revised staff report
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for the Director's review.
In light of staff's responses, Councilman Gardiner said he would support Mayor Pro
Tern Long's suggestion.
Mayor Pro Tern Long moved to 1) Declare the appeal moot; 2) Direct staff to refund the
appeal fee to the appellant; and 3) Remand the revised project back to staff for review.
The motion was withdrawn to allow the speakers to address Council.
Mark La Charite, applicant, Rolling Hills Estates, said that he essentially let Mr.
Beggans design his home and removed the items that were causing conflict. He said
that feared that the project would be appealed again and he questioned why Council
could not make a decision that evening so that he could move forward.
Jan Trobaugh, project architect, Torrance, confirmed what Mr. La Charite's comments
that the plan had been revised to resolve all of the conflicts with the neighbors.
John Muckel Rancho Palos Verdes, said that he sympathized with the applicant
because he was in the same position about 24 years ago. He indicated that he is in
favor of resolving the matter that evening, if possible, so that the applicant can move
forward with the project.
Stan Michota, Rancho Palos Verdes, said that he thinks this matter could have been
resolved earlier if one of the parties had been listening to the other. He expressed his
desire that the matter be resolved that evening.
Jim Beggans,, Rancho Palos Verdes, said he has no objections to the revised plan and
did not see any reason for further delay. He expressed his hope that the interpretation
of the tract conditions identified in the initial staff report are resolved by Council so that
this same situation does not reoccur in the future with similar development proposals.
For example, he indicated that there needs to be a clear definition of what "minor in
scope" means, and he asked Council to direct the staff to incorporate the definitions of
the words like "grading" and "construction" as they are defined in the Municipal Codes
into the staff reports so that there is no need to interpret these terms.
Mayor Pro Tern Long modified his motion to adopt the resolution with the caveat and
warning that Council did not have an opportunity to review the revised plans.
Councilman Gardiner suggested that it might be useful to call a short recess so that the
Chair of the Planning Commission could confer with staff to see whether or not he can
come to the same conclusion as staff.
Councilman Stern said that he appreciates everyone's desire to bring this matter to
closure, but is convinced by Mayor Pro Tern Long's initial comments that it is important
for staff to adhere to the standard process. He stated that it would not add a significant
amount of additional time, but would generate a staff report that would carefully
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examine all of the issues. While he sincerely hopes that no one appeals the Director's
decision, he indicated that he did not think it is a good idea to short circuit the process
in any way on a new project.
Councilman Clark expressed his support for Councilman Stern's comments and
suggested supporting the initial motion, rather than the modified motion.
Councilman Gardiner said that if all of the concerned parties are at the meeting and
they all support the revised plans, he did not see the need to sent the project back to
staff to repeat the process over again.
Mayor Pro Tem Long said that he is persuaded that, as Councilman Gardiner pointed
out, the outcome will ultimately be the same. He indicated, however, that it is an issue
of process, and that it would be unprecedented for a new project to be proposed and
approved by the decision-making body all on the same night. He pointed out that the
process has been designed to protect all of those involved.
Mayor Pro Tem Long renewed his initial motion. Seconded by Councilman Stern.
Councilman Clark made the point that notwithstanding the good intentions of the parties
in this particular case, there is a public noticing requirement, and the Council would not
want to do a disservice to the public as a whole by short circuiting that process.
Councilman Gardiner observed that this is not a new project, and stated that it is
inconceivable to him why it should be forced back through the process to obtain the
same result.
Mayor Pro Tem Long said that experience has taught him that people who think they
agree when they discuss things orally sometimes don't agree when they see it in
writing. He expressed concern that if the ultimate outcome is different that people's
recollections, the Council will bear the blame and not the interested parties.
Councilman Stern reiterated that he expects no different outcome will result from the
process, but if one of the parties involved sees something wrong on the revised plans,
they should have the right to raise it whether they are at the meeting or see the revised
plans tomorrow.
Councilman Clark said he does not necessarily consider it to be a new project, but
noted that it has been revised. He commented that during his four terms on the
Planning Commission he had seen many projects evolve during the hearing process,
but could not think of a case where there were substantive changes and staff did not
bring the project back to the Commission after a complete analysis for final approval.
He asked that the process be consistent with what is typically done.
Councilman Gardiner said that he found the situation interesting because if the appeal
was still intact, Council could make a decision that evening, but if all the interested
parties agreed and the appeal has been withdrawn, some members of Council feel that
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no action can be taken that evening.
Jim Beggans said it is important to note that the changes to the plans are all staff-level
approvals and would not require further review by Planning Commission. He said that
there is no way to appeal it because there are no longer any variances or other permits
being requested that are outside of the requirements of the Municipal Code.
Planning Commission Chair Knight said that it seems to him that what is before Council
is essentially a new plan. He noted that it is not the Planning Commission's usual
policy to approve plans the night they are presented and that it normally asks for a staff
analysis of the project before taking action. He explained that often times the details of
the project need to be worked out and clarified at the staff level.
Mayor Wolowicz said that he found Councilman Gardiner's comments quite compelling
because the Council should not shrink from the responsibility of making decisions. He
noted, however, that two former chairs of the Planning Commission and the current
Chair have all voiced their opinions to follow the established procedures, which
underscored to him the importance of doing so.
Mayor Pro Tem Long restated the motion, which Councilman Stern seconded.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Stern, Long, Mayor Wolowicz
NOES: Gardiner
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: None
Recess and Reconvene: Mayor Wolowicz recessed the meeting at 8:49 p.m. and
reconvened the meeting at 9:00 p.m.
REGULAR NEW BUSINESS:
City Manager Succession Plan (1101 x 1202)
Councilman Gardiner made a motion to approve the staff recommendation. Seconded
by Mayor Pro Tem Long.
Councilman Stern pointed out that a Council subcommittee had been appointed on this
item, and noted that if Councilman Clark and he could get together with City Manager
Evans in the next two weeks, they would come back with a proposal on how to proceed.
Mayor Wolowicz asked if one month would be adequate to get the process started.
There was agreement among the Council subcommittee members and City Manager
Evans that one month would be an adequate amount of time.
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Councilman Gardiner withdrew his motion on the basis that he simply wants to approve
the strategy as presented in the staff report and get the process started immediately.
Councilman Clark made a motion that the Council Succession Planning Subcommittee
meet with the City Manager to further develop a recruitment strategy, including
identifying potential recruitment firms, to assist the City in the recruitment and selection
of a new City Manager, and to report back to Council by June 6, 2006.
Mayor Pro Tem Long seconded the motion.
Without objection, Mayor Wolowicz declared that the motion stands.
Community Advisory Board for Ponte Vista (1101 x 106)
Assistant City Manager/City Clerk Petru reported that she had received two requests to
speak on this item.
City Manager Evans reported that this opportunity arose from a meeting between
Councilman Clark and Los Angeles Councilwoman Janice Hahn in which she indicated
that she would be forming a ten-member citizen's advisory committee to advise her and
the Los Angeles City Council on the specific plan for the Ponte Vista project on
Western Avenue. He indicated that Councilwoman Hahn offered Rancho Palos Verdes
the opportunity to appoint three members to that committee. He indicated that he had
received some input on possible candidates, but noted that it might be advantageous to
appoint them as soon as possible so that they could fully participate in the committee.
Councilman Gardiner said that it seems to him that the project affects the residents
living adjacent to Western Avenue the most; observed that there are two Rancho Palos
Verdes homeowners' associations in that area, and suggested that the president of
each HOA nominate one individual and the Council appoint the third member at large.
Councilman Stern said that he is willing to nominate someone who has approached
him.
Councilman Clark agreed with Councilman Gardiner's suggestion, but also wanted to
hear from the public speakers. He suggested that the third appointee that he had in
mind is someone who served three or four terms on the Planning Commission and
noted that there are a lot of planning issues associated with this project. He explained
that the individual is currently the president of the RPV Council of Homeowners'
Associations and is known throughout the community to be a wise and fair individual.
Mayor Wolowicz said that he was looking for the Chair of the Planning Commission and
the Chair of the Traffic Safety Commission either serving on the advisory board directly
or selecting a designee of their choice.
April Sandell, Rancho Palos Verdes, reported that she spoke with the City Manager
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earlier in the day to get a better understanding about the purpose and function of the
advisory committee and whom it would be advising. She indicated that the Los Angeles
Planning Department has said that it already knows what the community does not want
on the subject property and that this committee will allow them to find out what the
community does want. She indicated that she is absolutely opposed to a zone change
on the property and cited excerpts from an article produced by the Northwest
Neighborhood Council of San Pedro regarding the zoning issue. She stated that she
did not think this advisory board is going to make any difference.
Councilman Clark emphasized that from his interaction with Councilwoman Hahn it is
clear that she wants to provide the community with a formal voice in the process.
Lucie Thorsen, Rancho Palos Verdes, stated that she is absolutely opposed to the
prospect of 2,300 new homes being constructed in the area. She stated that traffic is a
nightmare as it is and that it would be unbearable if this project were to go through.
She indicated that she was discomforted by the statements she has heard that "zoning
is irrelevant" and stated that the developer was trying to candy-coat the plan by referring
to ball fields and other amenities that will benefit the community. She expressed hope
that the advisory committee goes on record as opposing the density of homes and the
zoning change. She indicated that she would like to be appointed to the committee and
that she would fight vigorously against the current proposal.
Councilman Stern asked if there had been any formal action taken by the Rolling Hills
Riviera Homeowner's Association to nominate a representative.
City Manager Evans indicated that there has not been.
Councilman Stern said that the City's appointees should be individuals with the depth of
background and experience necessary to not only advocate the positions that the
residents want, but be as good at it as possible. He said that Gina McCloud has
contacted him and volunteered to be on the committee, and that he thinks she would be
an excellent choice, explaining that her background as a lawyer working for an
accounting firm and her proven leadership ability would allow her to superbly represent
the City and the point of view of the residents.
Councilman Stern nominated Ms. McCloud to be on the advisory board. Mayor Pro
Tem Long seconded the nomination.
Councilman Gardiner reiterated that the homeowner's associations and their boards
have the most at stake and certainly would nominate individuals who could represent
them well with passion and the appropriate credentials. He indicated that he would
prefer to leave it to them to make their own nominations by a set deadline and if they
fail to make the nominations by a certain time, the Council will. He indicated that he
thinks John Cartwright, President of the RPV Council of Homeowners' Associations, is
also an excellent choice, along with two nominees from the adjacent homeowners'
associations.
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Mayor Pro Tern Long said that he prefers the candidate that Councilman Stern has
recommended. He pointed out that about 60% of the City's neighborhoods are not
represented by a homeowners' association and that he believes the at-large member
should not be a member of the homeowners' association but someone to represent the
City as a whole.
Councilman Clark pointed out that the one of the strengths Mr. Cartwright would bring
to the advisory board would be his four terms on the Planning Commission, twice chair,
and also two terms on View Restoration Commission, including serving as chair of that
body. He also pointed out that Mr. Cartwright served on the City's Neighborhood
Compatibility Subcommittee.
Mayor Wolowicz asked if there is a consensus to allow each homeowners' association
to choose one person to represent it on the committee.
Mayor Pro Tern Long expressed his support for the Mayor's suggestion.
Councilman Stern agreed, but suggested directing staff to contact the homeowners'
associations immediately and to continue this item for two weeks to allow the HOAs
time to make the nominations. He observed that Council would then know exactly how
many nominations it would need to make to fill out the City's representation on the
advisory committee.
Mayor Wolowicz suggested that Council ask for nominees from the two homeowners'
associations, which he was confident would be provided. He expressed concern
regarding the timeliness of the nominations so that the City does not miss the
opportunity to participate on the advisory board.
Councilman Gardiner asked that staff work with the homeowners' association
presidents in accordance with their boards, and that the individuals selected be eligible
to attend the advisory board meetings as soon they are appointed.
April Sandell, Rancho Palos Verdes, pointed out that there are actually three
homeowners' associations within proximity of the Ponte Vista project.
Mayor Pro Tern Long made a motion to continue the item to May 16, 2006, with
direction to staff to ask the presidents of the Rolling Hills Riviera, Mira Vista and
Peninsula Verde HOAs in consultation with their respective boards to each nominate
one representative to serve on the Ponte Vista Community Advisory Board for Council's
consideration; and directed the City Manager to update Councilwoman Hahn's office on
the status of the appointments. Included in the motion was a two week deadline form
nomination and that if the homeowners' associations did not provide any nominations,
Council will then make the necessary appointments at the meeting on May 16, 2006.
Seconded by Councilman Gardiner. Without objection, Mayor Wolowicz declared that
the motion passed.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS & SUGGESTION OF FUTURE
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AGENDA ITEMS:
Councilman Clark stated that he would like to have an item on the next Council agenda
regarding Speaker Nunez's proposed telecommunications bill (AB 1987). He further
asked for an item regarding Senate Bill 1778 on the next agenda, which proposes to
place restrictions on recycling of green waste materials as alternative daily cover (ADC)
at landfills.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT:
City Attorney Lynch reported that no action was taken with regard to the Monks case,
but that a report was given. With respect to the other two items of pending litigation,
she reported that Council gave direction to staff to send a letter to the two affected
property owners and to prepare a further report for the Council. She indicated that no
action was taken on the City Manager's performance evaluation.
ADJOURNMENT:
Councilman Stern made a motion to adjourn. Seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Long.
Without objection, Mayor Wolowicz adjourned the meeting at 9:39 p.m. to Saturday,
May 13, 2006 at 9:00 A.M. for a Community Leaders' Breakfast at Fred Hesse
Community Park.
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