CC MINS 20071110 ADJ MINUTES
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
RANCHO PALOS VERDES CITY COUNCIL
VISION PLAN & PUBLIC USE MASTER PLAN WORKSHOP
NOVEMBER 10, 2007
The meeting was called to order at 9:33 A.M. by Mayor Long at the Point Vicente
Interpretive Center, 31501 Palos Verdes Drive West, notice having been given
with affidavit thereto on file.
City Council roll call was answered as follows:
PRESENT: Clark, Stern, Wolowicz and Mayor Long
ABSENT: Gardiner (excused)
Also present were City Manager Carolyn Lehr, City Attorney Carol Lynch, Deputy
City Manager Carolynn Petru, Director of Planning, Building & Code Enforcement
Joel Rojas, Director of Finance/Information Technology Dennis McLean,
Principal Planner Ara Mihranian, Senior Administrative Analyst Matt Waters, and
City Clerk Carla Morreale.
FLAG SALUTE:
The Flag Salute was led by Deputy City Manager Carolynn Petru.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Mayor Pro Tem Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Wolowicz, to approve
the Agenda.
Without objection, Mayor Long so ordered.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Diane Hayden, Peninsula Neighborhood Girl Scouts, Rancho Palos Verdes,
spoke about her efforts towards building an outdoor education center and
campground and asked the Council to provisionally reserve a space in the
Rancho Palos Verdes Coastal Vision Plan for the project.
Shera Domatz-Finkle, Girl Scouts, Rancho Palos Verdes, asked that the Rancho
Palos Verdes Coastal Vision Plan include an outdoor campground.
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes, mentioned that California Coastwalk has
camped at the Ladera Linda Community Center's lower field for several years
and suggested that the Girl Scouts consider this location. She indicated that a
complete alignment of the California Coastal Trail was not included in the current
draft of the Vision Plan.
Joe Fierstein, South Bay Astronomical Society, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in
favor of an astronomical observatory being provided on the Palos Verdes
Peninsula.
NEW BUSINESS:
APPROVAL OF CONSENT CALENDAR:
City Clerk Morreale reported that she had one request to speak on Item 1 of the
Consent Calendar.
Mayor Pro Tern Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Clark, to approve the
Consent Calendar with Item 1 removed for separate consideration.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Stern, Wolowicz and Mayor Long
NOES: None
ABSENT: Gardiner
EMERGENCY STORM DRAIN PROJECT:
Mossbank Storm Drain Rehabilitation (1204 X 604)
This item was removed from the Consent Calendar for separate consideration.
OTHER CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS:
Motion to Waive Full Reading
Adopted a motion to waive reading in full of all ordinances presented at this
meeting with consent of the waiver of reading deemed to be given by all Council
Members after the reading of the title.
Adoption of Ordinance No. 464, A Zone Change for a Portion of 3324
Seaclaire Drive from OH to RS-3 [Applicant: Gulian Design; Landowner:
Jovan & Lisa Vavic] (1203 X 1802)
ADOPTED ORDINANCE NO. 464, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
RANCHO PALOS VERDES, APPROVING A ZONE CHANGE (CASE NO.
ZON2007-00134) FOR 3324 SEACLAIRE DRIVE (THE EXISTING BUILDING
PAD PORTION OF THE PROPERTY) FROM OPEN SPACE HAZARD (OH) TO
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (RS-3).
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Register of Demands
ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 2007-114, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF RANCHO PALOS VERDES, ALLOWING CERTAIN
CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AND SPECIFYING FUNDS FROM WHICH THE
SAME ARE TO BE PAID.
ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR:
EMERGENCY STORM DRAIN PROJECT:
Mossbank Storm Drain Rehabilitation
Robert Maxwell, Portuguese Bend Community Association, Rancho Palos
Verdes, presented the Council with a handout and spoke regarding the
Portuguese Bend Landslide and attempting to control outside water from
contributing to the movement in the landslide area.
Mayor Pro Tem Stern moved, seconded by Councilman Wolowicz, to review and
reconfirm by a four/fifths (4/5) vote, the Council's previous action on August 21,
2007, authorizing staff to proceed with emergency repairs to the Mossbank Drive
Storm Drain.
The motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Clark, Wolowicz, Stern, and Mayor Long
NOES: None
ABSENT: Gardiner
REGULAR NEW BUSINESS:
Rancho Palos Verdes Coast Vision Plan — Final Public Workshop (1201)
Mayor Long explained that the purpose of this meeting was for the public and
Council to hear the Vision Plan as presented by Melendrez, a consultant paid for
by a grant from the Annenberg Foundation.
Director of Planning, Building & Code Enforcement Joel Rojas provided a history
of the Vision Plan and the grant awarded to the Palos Verdes Peninsula Land
Conservancy (PVPLC) by the Annenberg Foundation.
Barbara Dye, Executive Director, PVPLC, provided an overview of the role of the
PVPLC in the Vision Plan process.
Director Rojas explained that the formulation of the Vision Plan has been a
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collaborative effort with input from many stakeholders including City staff, the
Public Use Master Plan (PUMP) Committee, City docents, the findings of the
former Open Space Task Force, Equestrian Committee, PVPLC, and the Bureau
of Land Management. He explained that the purpose of the meeting was to
review the draft Vision Plan which is made up of two components:
1) Development concepts for the five key sites of the Vision Plan that abut the
Portuguese Bend Nature Preserve which include Del Cerro Park; Upper Pt.
Vicente; Lower Pt. Vicente; Abalone Cove Shoreline Park; and the active
recreation area that is proposed to serve as a Gateway Park to the Preserve
near Palos Verdes Drive South; and, 2) the overall concept of uniting all of these
coastal open space areas through trails, signage, and interpretive materials so
that there is a cohesive plan for the area.
Melanie Smith, Partner with Melendrez, an Urban Planning/Design Landscape
Architecture firm, presented an overview and slide presentation of the concepts
and suggested enhancement aspects of the Vision Plan.
Lower Point Vicente (including the Companion Animal Center)
Ms. Smith, presented an overview and slide presentation of the specific proposal
for Lower Pointe Vicente.
Howard Litwack, Annenberg Foundation, provided a history of the Annenberg
Foundation's involvement in the Vision Plan and the creation of a potential
project for the undeveloped portion of the Lower Pt. Vicente site, the Companion
Animal Center.
Leonard Aube, Annenberg Foundation, provided a history of the Annenberg
Foundation, presented the master plan, and highlighted the Annenberg
Foundation vision for a Companion Animal Center in partnership with the
Peninsula community.
Susan Liberati, Assistant Superintendent/Curriculum and Instruction, Palos
Verdes Peninsula Unified School District (PVPUSD), spoke in favor of the
proposal citing the augmentations to the PVPUSD curriculum, and potential
benefits to the students and educators in the PVPUSD.
Cassie Jones, Veterinarian, Point Vicente Animal Hospital, spoke in support of
the Companion Animal Center and highlighted the benefits to the community,
including retention of local history, the possibility of educational programs, and
the preservation of the natural flora and fauna on the Peninsula.
Mr. Aube provided an in-depth presentation on the proposed location and
amenities of the Companion Animal Center in connection with the existing
facilities and trails at Lower Point Vicente.
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RECESS AND RECONVENE:
Mayor Long called a brief recess from 11:09 A.M. to 11:20 A.M.
Mayor Long explained the rules of addressing the Council and invited public
comments.
Linda Retz, Rolling Hills Estates, spoke in support of the Companion Animal
Center.
Vic Quirarte, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of the Companion Animal
Center facility and outdoor museum.
Betty Riedman, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of the Companion
Animal Center project as she believed it would be good for the community and
would compliment the Lower Pt. Vicente site.
Lynn Swank, Open Space Task Force, Rancho Palos Verdes, reported that in
the recent past the Open Space Task Force and the City Council rejected a
proposal to place a Girl's Softball Field in Lower Point Vicente because it was not
a passive use of the property. She opined that the current proposal for the
Companion Animal Center was not a passive use and requested that the Council
carefully consider the retention of raw nature and open space.
Lynn Petak, South Bay Wildlife Rehabilitation, Rancho Palos Verdes, asked that
a wildlife rehabilitation center or at least a receiving center be included in the
Vision Plan, and that public education be included regarding the coexistence of
domestic animals and wildlife.
Ruth Hattersley, Palos Verdes Interpretive Center Docent, Rancho Palos Verdes,
spoke in opposition of the Companion Animal Center.
Barbara Sattler, Rancho Palos Verdes, expressed concern with the proposal and
the obligation implied by accepting a grant from the Annenberg Foundation. She
added that the community had not asked for the Companion Animal Center and
opined that it belonged at another site, not Lower Pt. Vicente, which should be
preserved as open space.
Ken Dyda,, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke about the Vision Plan in general, voiced
concern with preserving the City's open space, and suggested Council's careful
consideration of future growth and providing adequate parking for future uses.
Alfred Sattler, Rancho Palos Verdes, asserted that the coastal area was not the
right place for the Companion Animal Center.
Kay Bara, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of the project on behalf of the
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Palos Verdes Peninsula Horseman's Association.
In response to questions from Councilman Wolowicz, Mr. Aube reported that the
size of the Pt. Vicente Interpretive Center (PVIC) building is approximately
10,000 square feet and the size of the proposed Companion Animal Center is
between 25,000-28,000 square feet. He noted that the facility would be able to
hold approximately 25 animals at a time and clarified that the Center would not
be in competition with the local veterinarians, and would only provide necessary
medical care to the animals at the facility. Mr. Aube noted that the Lower Pt.
Vicente site was selected for the project because of the already existing
educational components of the PVIC.
In response to questions from Councilman Clark, Mr. Aube noted that one of the
goals of the project was to put a bright spotlight on the indigenous wildlife of the
Peninsula area as part of the educational component of the facility, but there
would not be care facilities for the local wildlife because of the many issues
related to the mixing of wild and domestic animals. Mr. Aube reported that the
concept for the parking facilities would be to create a circular point of entry with
the surface parking area being beautified; the overall parking spaces on the site
would be increased from 65 to 130 parking spaces; some of the parking spaces
would be moved closer to the PVIC building; and, one third of the parking would
be hidden under the Companion Animal Care building.
RECESS INTO CLOSED SESSION:
Mayor Long recessed the meeting for a lunch break and Closed Session at
12:04 P.M.
City Attorney Lynch announced that Council was recessing into Closed Session
to discuss the City Manager's Performance Evaluation.
RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION:
Mayor Long reconvened the meeting from Closed Session into Open Session at
1:08 P.M.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT:
City Attorney Lynch reported that Council discussed the City Manager's
Performance Review, no action was taken and the item was continued to the
next Closed Session of the City Council.
Lower Point Vicente (including the Companion Animal Center)
Mayor Long announced that additional public comments would be taken
regarding the Lower Point Vicente site.
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Sil Quirarte, Los Serenos docent, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of the
proposal, and asserted that the outdoor museum would be an asset to the
community.
Greg Thomsen, California Coastal National Monument and Bureau of Land
Management, provided a history of the organization and explained its purpose, to
protect and coordinate partnerships in the management of the coastal
monuments which are exposed reefs above mean high tide along the California
coast. He voiced support for the RPV Coast Vision Plan and looked forward to
working with staff.
Jim Knight, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of an animal care center and
its educational value, but stated that he did not agree with the proposed location
for the facility. He noted that he had concerns regarding the maintenance of the
native habitat and wildlife corridor on the Peninsula.
Beverly Ackerson, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced concern with modification of
animal behavior, over-development on the Peninsula, loss of open space, and
liability issues if the animals in the Companion Animal Center cause injury.
The Gateway Park (including the Equestrian Center)
Ms. Melanie Smith provided a slide presentation and explanation of the proposal
for the Gateway Park site.
Director Rojas reported that the Gateway Park site is a 25 acre portion that has
been carved out of the Portuguese Bend Nature Preserve acquired by the City in
2005 from Mr. Hon, to serve as a gateway to the Preserve. He noted that the
conceptual plans for the site have a visitor parking component and commented
that there were constraints for this site since it is in the active landslide area. He
stated that this would be a possible site for an educational component for school
groups and/or a scout house for the Girl Scout Association.
Barbara Dye, Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy, reported that the park
would be available for various uses and that the educational component of the
site would need additional input and planning.
Kathy Johnston, Rolling Hills Estates, Girl Scout Leader, asked for the Council's
support in the creation of a scout house at Upper Pt. Vicente and camping
facilities at Gateway Park.
Kay Bara, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of the Gateway Park and
Equestrian Center on behalf of the Palos Verdes Peninsula Horseman's
Association.
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Al Edgerton, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced concern with extreme bikers' use of
the Gateway Park site.
Councilman Clark spoke in support of the proposal and asked about the
geological instability of the land; whether the educational center on the site was
to be a portable structure; if the educational component would include
information about the history of the Peninsula; and, the potential need for
enforcement and rangers in the Portuguese Bend Nature Preserve and
surrounding areas.
Councilman Wolowicz asked about parking and circulation of traffic at the
Gateway Park site and inquired if there would be too much at the site with the
portal and Equestrian Center.
Del Cerro Park
Ms. Melanie Smith provided a slide presentation and explanation of the proposal
for Del Cerro Park.
Principal Planner Mihranian added that the conceptual design being presented
will be revised to incorporate the concerns and issues recently raised by
neighbors and others who utilize Del Cerro Park.
Barbara Dye,, Palos Verdes Peninsula Land Conservancy, reported that the
design concept presented was not a final design and highlighted some of the
proposed changes to the design.
John Spielman,, Peninsula Silent Flyers, Rancho Palos Verdes, reported that the
site was currently used by the Peninsula Silent Flyers Club and outlined the
Club's efforts with the Land Conservancy in order to accommodate the utilization
of the park site for their continued activities.
Iva Hackwell, Rancho Palos Verdes, voiced concern with the increasing uses of
Del Cerro Park, the size and location of the proposed donor recognition site and
the related safety and privacy issues.
Thomas Olson, Del Cerro Homeowners Association, Rancho Palos Verdes,
reported on the history of the park and its intended use as a passive park, with
no benches, tables, etc. His concerns included night use of the park; parking
related issues; lack of traffic and landscaping studies related to the proposed
donor recognition site; the vast scope of the proposed donor recognition site;
aircraft safety problems; and the lack of timely response by the Sheriffs
Department to reported security issues.
Al Sattler, Rancho Palos Verdes, asserted that Del Cerro Park was an
outstanding site to view astronomy events and asked for an allowance from the
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City and neighbors for the site to be used occasionally for nighttime astronomy
observations.
Council and staff discussed issues related to security problems, the Sheriff
Department's response, and potential problems for vandalism at Del Cerro Park.
Councilman Clark noted that the proposed donor recognition site at Del Cerro
Park was wonderful in concept, but the application would prove to be a
challenge.
Mayor Long asserted that there was a great need for a donor recognition site and
asked that staff work with the community and the Sheriffs Department to resolve
the issues at Del Cerro Park.
Upper Point Vicente
Ms. Melanie Smith provided a slide presentation and explanation of the proposal
for Upper Pt. Vicente.
Staff reported that they were waiting for the results of several studies and title
information for the Upper Pt. Vicente site before moving forward with further work
on the Master Plan of the site.
Laura Raab, Palos Verdes Hills Girl Souts, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in
support of including a scout house at the Upper Pt. Vicente site.
Sunshine, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in opposition to the conceptual plan for
the Upper Pt. Vicente site, voicing concerns with buildings and parking lots on
prime open space area.
Barbara Sattler, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of an unobtrusive
approach to building on the Upper Pt. Vicente site.
Council and staff discussion included the following topics: Upper Pt. Vicente
Master Plan; support for active park uses; relocation of the maintenance yard; a
parking structure on the site; the possibility of a new City Hall building;
underutilized active use City parks; the accommodation of requests for a scout
house and scout campgrounds; and, the due date for infrastructure studies of the
Upper Pt. Vicente site.
RECESS AND RECONVENE:
Mayor Long called a brief recess from 3:05 P.M. to 3:23 P.M.
Mayor Pro Tem Stern left the meeting at 3:05 P.M.
Mayor Long announced that there would be a reordering of the remaining items
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to be addressed, with the Review of Design/Sign Guidelines to be discussed first
to be followed by discussion of Abalone Cove.
Review and Provide Feedback on the Vision Plan Design/Sign Guidelines
Rebecca Finn, Urban Designer, Melendrez, provided a slide presentation and
Review of the Vision Plan Design and Signage Guidelines.
Tracy Albrecht, Interpretive Specialist, California Coastal National Monument,
Bureau of Land Management/U.S. Department of the Interior, presented
informational materials regarding signage design to inform the public about the
rocks and reefs off of the coast of Rancho Palos Verdes which are a part of
California's national monuments and the goals of the organization.
Council discussion included the use of the City logo on signage and architectural
style of buildings in the Rancho Palos Verdes Coast Vision Plan.
Abalone Cove
Ms. Rebecca Finn provided a slide presentation of the proposal for Abalone
Cove.
Joan Kelly, Rancho Palos Verdes, asserted that the Abalone Cove and open
space areas in the Portuguese Bend Nature Preserve need time to heal from
bike use and suggested the Companion Animal Center could be located at Upper
Pt. Vicente.
Betty Riedman, Rancho Palos Verdes, spoke in support of the use of native
plants in the Abalone Cove area and suggested signage for the tidepool areas.
Council discussion included the following topics: rehabilitation of the trails;
unintended or unwanted results of increased public access; the relationship
between the Public Use Master Plan and the Vision Plan; a catalog of the
concerns and desires of the community; community awareness of the Vision
Plan; and, the next steps for the Council in the approval process of the Vision
Plan.
Mayor Long requested that staff provide the Council with specific issues and
decision points, a budget adjustment to complete the Vision Plan, and an outline
of the guidance staff needs prior to the adoption of the Vision Plan in February
2008 or later.
Barbara Walsh, Rancho Palos Verdes, asked to whom the public should address
their comments.
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Mayor Long reiterated that there were comment cards available for suggestions
and comments from the public that should be forwarded to Principal Planner
Mihranian.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mayor Long adjourned the meeting at 4:29 P.M. r�
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